tv [untitled] BELARUSTV June 21, 2023 10:45pm-11:41pm MSK
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our society over our civilization against the coming horror. they may understand better than anyone what these stakes are, that's why they are so consistent and so. uh, sometimes they are so tough in their decisions, which will help many to seem. no, not not enough thoughtful or too harsh , in fact, they are too soft, because the seriousness that now hangs over the civilization of man and over the last ties of mankind with god is due to these threats. fatal they are the most maybe in scary stories hence some rigidity in the behavior of our leaders, but it is fully justified from the point of view of the logic of the historical process. and even more than that, she, uh, in my opinion, it's too soft in the line of behavior. and we have a new project. we will continue to act about those who will go to the forefront about those who carry the banner about our people, find out they were the order of
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by chance, mistakes are very glad that i took time away from death, like an experienced ditch, a soldier of soldiers who have long since left will give a soldier of a soldier walks, as if a soldier of a soldier has been spared, a soldier of a soldier rages with a star on the road. the creator of things to keep you from all heavenly powers. god, i cry out, like a lost son, i am a sinner
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before you, i ask you, forgive me, save me and save me from the devilish kind. you, not seeing the temptation of the abyss, grant humility for a long journey, and in it caviar me and my brothers from death. lead us the guide through the spring on that path , send your sign and let michael be above us as an archangel, and next to him. victory is worn by his spears, put in my hands a sword that punishes the enemies that ruined your church yourself send blood with me to irite. i will constantly rested two small things. in school and i swear on this place, now guard, i will. you dug up a hundred of us here for 40-40 years, and each of yours went on to play, as if from a pancake, lead us with them forever and ever.
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and viktoria popova and today our guest is our colleague yuri grover yuri greetings that you came for a walk? for how many years? did you give to the company? phew fuck let's count together so now i'll say from 2001 to 2012. i'm not mistaken 11 years when i entered here. i'm not so sentimental that straight the heart of us is not yet. but, well, you don't even have to come in here. i i often remember who is good, that there were pleasant memories here, even uh were in the biography of the television and radio company, mogilev uh, that was the very beginning. yes, and i am extremely grateful for this, yes, and you, the television and radio company of the union
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state, worked for two cities, minsk, moscow, then there was the nt channel and now the belarusian telegraph agency is belta. that is, we can conclude yuri that you do not stay in one place? well, how to say, you don’t stay too long, if you are 11 years old, is it like overstaying or not? well, you know this thing in fact. well, there is such a widespread theory, something, they say, psychologists recommend every there for five, in my opinion, years. yes, it’s not at all to change what i do, that’s my occupation, yes, but our work. she's different in that regard, uh. that is, you can not change the cardinal occupation, but inside you can, uh , still change something, that is, roughly speaking, you could be engaged, there for 5 years, for example, in criminal news. yes, then you became interested. maybe there after, i don't
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know. why. suddenly it became interesting to you interesting sport, please go do it in different areas of life in general. yes, other people are different. well, well, at the same time, uh, it ’s all the same, as it were, in this profession, and so there are a lot, so in this regard it was always interesting. yes, something to change to develop, but i'm always interested in our company when you worked in the belsphere of the company, you were still a playing coach. you were deputy director of the integrity news agency, you worked. in the frame, the presenter was a parade commentator, if you have such a line in your creative biographies, that's what is closer to you which ampoule, you are the boss. after all, you understand a tv presenter, i don’t see it that way, in fact, i work and life, uh, it’s important that it be interesting, just in the moment and just when you’re not interested. e, firstly, the camera is very sensitive to any falseness.
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e, if you do it without interest, it is visible, when it is also visible with interest and the audience feels and understands it, and most importantly, to be interesting yourself, just wondering what the routine was and left or what? i remember very well moment e 2010. oh, 13 years have passed, and the first children's in minsk. and then we formed a very cheerful team here at bt. eh, who was involved and i, well, also participated in the organization of this particular event, but how to say? i was responsible for everything that happens in minsk. so i had a zone of responsibility, that is, everything starts from from from from from sound to light from how the scene looks. uh, zoning the territory, where where do they rehearse where do they change clothes? who goes where? who doesn't go where with a clearance zone? i mean, i didn't do anything. i
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i lived there, i went there, really. here for a month. i came there. hours at 8:00 am and left hours here once, but it was an insanely interesting job, because, well, first of all, we did it all for the first time. and when we did it, then the comrades from yes, they said, damn it, guys, well, you are . we did not expect you to make a children's competition as usual, we have an adult competition. well , that is, they also had such a little gradation. well, for us it was, of course, a very flattering assessment for everyone, but i remember very well, the moment when the competition was over that day and in the morning i already arrived out of habit, and there is another feature in the same place, uh. for our sake , we postponed hockey matches. they did not spend there, and well, it was literally necessary very quickly in 3 days to dismantle what was
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being repaired for a month. eh, well, not just to break it down and take it away, but to dismantle it, that is , somehow something else was preserved, and it was also such hard work. i remember them very well. i look at all this. and this is, well, it's all huge. yes? this may have happened somehow me acceleration understands what i'm talking about food. okay, what's next. well, well, we are all there together, but we did it, just such a project. yes, and when you gave everything there. yes yourself emotionally help. i keep thinking that and now that the sanatorium no, well, the tore is not about us. a? well, what now? i understand that damn, well, the coming time is something like that. well, it certainly won't be in the country. well, it happened later, yes, and well, in the near future. well, you know, i finished it and jumped to about the same one, no, because christmas trees are sticks do? now he left then after eurovision
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and the stars. well, the stars also formed there, let's say. well, how did they get to bed? in general, in a country with eurovision, what do you think about it ? you know. well, i'll tell you honestly. i have always treated the adult competition with some kind of prejudice. here in the nursery, i still saw it from the inside and did it. no , well, besides the fact that we provided everything. yes. i saw how the children pressed, what kind of children who came with them? as it all happens, there really was. uh, local beautiful children's competition children just amazing everything. well, you know , here's a sip of pure water, what is called an adult competition, and even then i'll honestly tell you. i never understood our belarusian artists, which i asked many. why do you need it, well, who say they said to themselves
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eurovision we want to eurovision probably know, the same as you did when you did this topic, you know? this is the scale, we don’t have anything similar. the scale here is slightly different scales and different and different goals and objectives. why don't i understand belarusian artists? understood then, well, now they are no longer involved, and i believe that islam is god, not only do you think so, right? well question. uh, well, see hmm simple example. here i am imagine that you are an artist who is there to get to eurovision, here’s a simple question for you, did you perform at eurovision what, yes, further, and then work on the topic is understandable, you can work on yourself all your life until you yourself know where we end up, but what's next in your singing artistic career for some reason. uh, the musicians of the world aspired, then anyway, don't know how to sign now
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contract with some major world label. one contract brought him millions of dollars at once, and he became just an automatic person for one character , he was enough. and from the fact that you killed, a year of preparation and then performed at a contest of dubious reputation and of course a contract, of course, and again, understand, i remember very well even relationships. that's even when we did this children's competition, uh, the guys who participated in the preparations from uh europe well, let's just say we had such an international team, including number. and they refer to the adult competition, you know, as an amateur art competition. they went sang and hung out. well, well, in different ways they took their place in the eastern bloc. it was a novelty, and we wanted to jump out of our pants in order to show correctly each of the countries of the eastern bloc in our country. eh, you'll like it if you want. we
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are just now beginning to understand that maybe it was not so necessary to jump out there, but jump out, that it should have been more calm about this. moreover, i say again that the artist here, even if we take all those who won, yes, the first two years, they are natural, but again, notice at the hearing where they didn’t become- they didn’t go on tour. i don't know european. union no, they moved home, and now i use this popularity, which has been holding on for some time, of course. they worked here. this topic has been forgotten about them for a year or two. well, you can’t say e calorin and bilan, well, they earned points for themselves in this competition, but they passed. today you are the host of the project in the topic on squirrel youtube channel. tell our viewers. how did this project come about. why youtube channel? was there such a goal right away, but
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in general, from idea to implementation? well, how do you say? well, how much everything appears by chance, although chance is not too late , as it says. well, it appeared, as in the process of discussion. that is, the youtube channel, well, when we decided to do this , there was already a youtube channel on the site of the belarusian telegraph agency. naturally. i don't remember how many thousand subscribers there were. well , well, some kind of dial, either 150 or 200, maybe thousands. well, something like that. i don’t dare to say exactly now, in my opinion, there are a million three hundred subscribers. this is the first channel in the belarusian, let's say, segment of state families that has stepped over this millionth bar. and that's why we invited you to tell us. how are things, in principle, they really do not pay. i don't think this is paid content. well, i'll tell you what happened. these are these numbers, when they appeared in
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the topic or were approaching this, you know how i always say, what's on television, what in any other media yes, and in general in any business one in the field is not sure about the topic, of course, well, he pulled it out. well, maybe it gave such a good impetus, why because, well, there were speakers who began to gain millions. and he himself was engaged in the selection at first, just himself uh-huh , in the process already there after some time , now not only himself, but well, you are also doing it yourself, the editorial team. yes, but the bet was made not only on our speakers. yes, as i understand it, this is the success, maybe these numbers, in fact , ours is absolutely not important. here i am, i'm totally against it such a division you know the belarusian speaker, there is no non-belarusian speaker, an interesting speaker is an uninteresting speaker. let's share them like this. and this is what we use, i
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'll give you a living example. and yuryevich shevtsov, uh, our belarusian, he was with you, i know. well, he comes to us. we are talking to him now. and we look so 2.300, or what? well, here it is. now, probably, you already know more, some guests, too, about yurushevsky, i’ll say , somehow try to make it out of leather. yuriy shevtsov is climbing in some kind of relaxed state walks into the studio sits down and robs 30. gain views on our numbers. it is too. well, because it is a lump, you know, intellectual. well, now i'm sincerely saying this sincerely, because we are inviting him for the second time, just there, after, in my opinion, a month and a half or two 2 million. again with something. yes, when you were asked, what is the secret of being in demand and projects in the topic, you said that all the guests of the project, paritologists and historians, economists,
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learned musicians, volunteers and ordinary people. just bright personalities that's why the secret success. well, something does not agree. it seems to me, that is, he came to invite a bright personality. now we sat and talked, hoba 2 million views. i repeat. eh, i didn't fight. he says, there is nothing, commercial advertising. this is from the belta. yes, you will not see it on the internet. if, for example, i turn on, let's say, i press the youtube button, uh , i press there, for example, the same channel is white. yes , commercial commercial is immediately displayed at the top. i see there is an advertisement there. yeah, uh our uh friends who sit people in poland and i. well, they broadcast, they broadcast, but they have it all paid for. i'll just watch it out of curiosity. ok then. how many statistics do you have there, what is it, but it's funny and it's for money. and if you remove it, and if you remove the money, what will remain is just
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interesting, it's just to deprive them of funding. uh, from such a funding item as advertising on youtube, what will be left for 10. i don’t know how much yura should be divided there. well then, the second question. i don't know if you can say it or if it's correct? from project in belt theme get some financial influence let's say financial in the agency. i do not do. but uh, what can i say, while there was monetization. on youtube , as far as i heard from the edge of my ear, yes, yes, the agency, well, some kind of money, well, i received it, namely from youtube, but there has been no monetization for a long time, therefore. it is difficult to talk about this issue now. well, you 're being modest because the leadership of the belt. he says that many subscribers have switched to the channel, including because of you, because you have a balance of wisdom and experience. yes, very
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kind good comments, eh? under releases programs, although you say that in the program you try to minimize your participation in order to open up the interlocutor, it happens that, in fact, we suppose we are talking with someone. yes, uh, there i am, in general, and not a minimum, because. well, if i see that a person, well, i didn’t finish somewhere, it’s not that, uh, somewhere somewhere we argue, where there somewhere i talk a lot. well, just to talk, including. eh, interlocutor, yes , and in order, well, to help him open up, it just didn’t become anymore, but i understand something else, that viewers who turned on, for example, uh, i don’t know the video there with- it also turns on. e in the form of the speaker's surname and he is interested in listening to him, and not my rantings there, therefore, already at the installation. i try to minimize myself just
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to give maximum time. eh, he was the main guest in this program. well , such a buzz. this project, when you start it is unclear, it will not work out. that's when i realized that it went. and i will say. two moments were two very first programs. there we have such a wonderful chief doctor in general, our infectious disease specialist is a wonderful person, very erudite. by the way, invite sometime, he quotes bulgakov just as if he were bulgakov himself well, when we started we also know there, how we try, so we try. well, and then already, well, people still don’t know what it is, of course there are some uh, there weren’t beautiful statistics. and here, then, we are doing an interview with a sanych. and somehow at the moment he scored more than 70,000.
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well, for those fields anyway, i think so, wow. well, wow, wow, what happens and then there was the next speaker, who hit so well, i go by the numbers, if you focus on the statistics this is andrey ilyich fursov who also scored very quickly there is something like 2 million 700 euros there somewhere, maybe you have a zero, there is something yes , it's hard to believe at all in our latitudes, and then no , he says to me, yes, everything is so. yep, that means it's possible. well, it went on and then, well, well , we have a leg. eh, quite a lot. i would like, of course, more e people who are gaining confidently over a million. well, if we talk about the differences of the internet, there is no project television, then there are many, of course, you can
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list. uh. well, the most important thing is probably well, the lack of boundaries. that is, if a television project lives on the territory of broadcasting, then the internet projection lives on the world wide web, plus an internet project, which also captivates many people? commenting, that is, expressing your opinion about what you see is very valuable. e on a tv program. it's hard to do it. yes, right off the bat, although now everything that television does. everything is laid out on the internet in one way or another, therefore, in principle, these boundaries are erased from the fact that you cool. it has not come now with the project, this is such a moment here it is difficult to cool down, because again, you see , this is the case, it is what i am telling you about. you seem to be doing the same thing, but you have today, and tomorrow an economist is a historian, even if tomorrow i don’t know, there is an athlete sociologist.
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eh, a man of some unique profession. these are all different worlds. these are different topics. these are different topics for conversation. that is, it seems, as if one and the same, everything is different, before we go on a break. say it's always on topic you always prepare. channel say, do not be silent, subscribe ask questions and suggest guests we are in touch. on the air again , say the program, do not be silent. our guest tv journalist yuri groverov yuri will talk about copyright journalism, because. i think that we can also list you in this cohort now. and 2 years ago we were visiting. yes, we ourselves are switches, our colleague and political scientist vadim elfimov said that the time has come for smart
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calm programs. let's listen and discuss now we talk a lot about change in information and political broadcasting on television, such as over the past year. it has grown, it has become better, bright journalists have appeared. these changes please or alarm you, something pleases, what is alarming about what has been done now. it was done in a fever. yes, in this fight it was necessary to note something and answer exactly. there is also a good expression to live with wolves, and in this sense, we reacted gradually gained momentum, but the viewer is a belarusian listener, he is not stupid, he cannot hear all the time. the cry may be his pensioners have heard that it is yes. here is the tone. yes, and so on. it really annoys me. i don't like hysterics, and uh, there comes a stage, when you need to enter into the policy of the duma , uh, an informational thoughtful program to turn to the house. uh, everyone has already calmed down , ponders and thinks, therefore, a thoughtful conversation is needed. well, here you have a thoughtful conversation in
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the program. well, in fact, i agree with vadim here and questions. i well, anyway, what i see is from the comments. yeah people are really tired of the constant screaming well look, only the show is there all the time , someone is yelling at someone there, someone is shouting over each other, they don’t let each other say something, this is an end in itself, people are real. well, tired of it. oh, i, especially when it comes to, well, those are some hmm well, we don’t talk about panties there, i don’t know about all this yellowness there. eh, it might still be relevant. well, maybe there are still audience requests, i guess i don’t know, i didn’t dive into this part. well, they have developed such traditions. they are already from them. ok then. well, god is their judge. this is what makes the stars ignite. yes, someone needs it. well, it's bad that someone needs such
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stars. it's, well, it's just an indicator of development, including an intellectual and emotional society. this. well, here it is. well, an indicator, if you like, but again, that's a topic for another conversation. we are already philosophizing. that's when it comes to some serious topics. well, how can you yell about them, on the contrary, well, yes, well, it doesn’t seem like it, in any case, well, you need to calmly talk everyone to discuss everything, and yuri but there are authors who cause ambiguous assessments. this is grigoriy azaryonok evgeny pustovoy, they have their own style calmly emotionally. they cannot be named. yes, and they should calm down too. i will repeat again. probably if the stars are lit, then someone needs it just uh. everyone has, well, their own share of people who are impressed by such a style, well, please, well , the viewer must have some, after all, he is the main one with us,
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and the viewer, who is always right, respectively, for him the final right of choice. yes? that is, he votes. well, as they once said on the tv with a button. yes well, the same button, only with the mouse, and you are watching the programs of the same grisha and azarenka or a sentry. well, i can't say that i'm sitting right here. here i am looking. well , i, in principle, look through everything, what to do with passion, not to omit. who does what. well i'm always hmm to be aware, really lately. if i watch tv, it is extremely rare, well, rather by accident. well, let's say big here. uh, nothing lost, what is called because these lucky colleagues spread everything they do in one way or another . where are you on the internet? there e is more free to dispose of his own time. you are not tied to time. uh, airing the program. you watch everything the same only when it's convenient for you, where it's convenient,
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well, most often it's on the phone. well, here we recently visited her and voskresensky also spoke to her about authorial journalism, and the leading girls tatyana victoria retorted him very justifiably. let's listen. this is especially evident in the author's journalism, which we are now seeing on state-owned tv channels. take tn and excellent programs of ksenia lebedeva take vnt and excellent programs of igor tur. bochkova markova take the stv with a blank and a light. e, so i'm not talking about the content, someone likes one approach and style, someone likes a little robin, someone doesn't like a little one, well, lebedev likes it, but in general. this author's journalism has become very lively, entertaining and informative and interesting, so we are moving towards the right way. it seems to me that this is the narrative of the twenty-second year, but not the twenty-
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third of the rights of copyright journalism. i mean , i wish you were already looking ahead, and you're still, well, yeah, that's great. everything you say, well, as if there is no breakthrough, if we admire. by what we had already reached, august was required. that's when they arose. actually in the media field. these are the figures you have listed. here's what's next and then what victoria asks, and then life will show, in fact, nothing appears just like that, correctly, he says that there was a time when well, that was not enough and you know how time gives birth to heroes. yes, they appeared to nate, well, uh, nothing happens. it's just that there will be another time , other heroes will be needed, they will appear, maybe they have already appeared. do you feel yura in your program that this is what, well, the twentieth year was, and we discussed for a very long time. yes, and you are in your program with the heroes, and here we
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are no longer interested, and the upcoming elections are still uninteresting, and you know such a certain, well, like a hole, informational or not. sometimes we ourselves do not notice how we succumb even to emotional manipulation than by ourselves. yes, you know, of course it's a thing. well, look, yes. undoubtedly, the dramatic events of the twentieth year were very dramatic. yes, uh, then after them everything was very simple, but well, what's the point of living this all the time, or what ? no, yes, and here the women are ukraine, yes. and this is now already. let's be honest, no one is that special. well, people are also tired of the topic already. yes, that is, especially there especially such a global something is not very much happening. yes, well, something is definitely happening for those people who are there,
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well, people are dying there. these are some very serious events every day. well, that's how it came out. well, the front went somewhere for 100 km. forward. no back, gone 100 no, how were these red ones there and about there , plus or minus, there are some yes there, here tomorrow something new will appear. well, life is so arranged, and the focus will shift. that's how it is , and that's how we live, you don't feel that now there is nothing to talk about, there is no one to call. well, how would you are, by that, life goes on, life does not stop. but you and i didn’t cover ourselves with a white shroud, they don’t crawl, so as not to create panic to the side. e. okay, the cemetery is correct, but we live, so something happens to each of us. and, as you notice, uh , according to the spectator’s face, what is there somewhere, or
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, nevertheless, we have something that belarusian viewers understand a thing, again, uh, probably there. 15 ago, what would have been more worrying here is what is here. well, in general, somewhere around the beginning of the 2000s, when, uh, the internet, in fact, in a good way, it really began to enter our lives, and it became borders. especially with regard to information , they ceased to exist for information correctly, that is, a person, being in a state of chaos, he can emotionally live, uh, somewhere in florida, because something is happening there that hooked him. and here's how to deal with it, sort of, how he is here, sort of, how he should be belarusian, sort of thinking. that's what 's happening around here, and he cares about something there . why? because this information came to him, she hooked him, someone hooked him. something else is certain when such major dramatic events occur. it can even be tragic, such as the conflict in
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ukraine, which touches almost everyone. especially us, because, well, i often say, here everyone has relatives there. well, it's hard to find someone who doesn't have relatives there. and like it or not, people think about it. and how they, even if they had a fight, maybe in such stories i know a lot, when well, more often, by the way, from the other side. oh, here you are belarusians to ukrainian relatives. we know that they were well brainwashed there and in as a result, they make belarusian relatives guilty. this is one aspect and the second aspect why are we interested in events in ukraine well, because even if we have no relatives there, we are on the border of our country things, which in itself, of course, and look, well, what's happening, i don't want anyone offend, but i often have such a comparison. here is a monkey with a grenade , people understand further weapons, which are really, well, powerful weapons, long-range weapons. and what? well, no good. yes, nothing good, but in
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whose hands were they given weapons? eh, how much of us. the decision point there to use is not used. eh, that particular person. i'm not talking now about some high commanders, specific soldiers there, he will be in what he will be according to his national condition. oh now i'll wipe it off the face of the earth. there are conventions here this dick. god forbid, or does he have everything for this, you understand? yes, of course, yes. or i don't want to do anything . i'm tired. well, we do not know the second and well, of course. yes, but also to influence especially this state. we're not too far from here either. we can, yes, stop something after all attempts to defend. we are taking it so unconditionally, well, thank god we have everything for this, and thank god that we have such an ally as the russian federation because, well, even here are the latest events with
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the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons. well, where else would we get it. let's so, well, here's the case that well, hello, we ended up without some kind of umbrella, which we now sort of understand because we have a cloud of security agreements and so on and so forth. we we are, and so it seems, well, it seems, how they were under this nuclear umbrella of russia but it was more figurative and speculative, yes, and on paper, and here, please. well, further as in that moment. who's on me, what's my name? misha and who is misha? well , our guest was military analyst alexander tikhansky. he just did, yes, said that the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons, it is in addition to allowing us to be under the nuclear umbrella. it is also intended to cool
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nato. uh, hot hawks really. well, of course, i don’t know, of course, you can think as we thought we well, many of us at any rate over the past there. well, in short, since the collapse of the union, what when they told us there dc why do you need all this army, all these weapons? well, maybe we won't attack you. well, why are you actively disarming it? it's a trap, why do you need it? so there is no one, well, no one, and then you look at how more than ten percent, uh, of the budget is spent on armaments. it's like this, where this country is not officially at war with anyone yet, well, i must admit yura that it was the same when in our history we were naive, yes, that is, well, when we agreed and signed, we were talking about eurovision, that's all. you see, this is all that operas were for us then
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, yes, we jumped out, that they are also not only we belarusians and russians. and in general, here is the entire former soviet union. so i take off my hat to those people who hammered into us, then an inferiority complex. they made us forget about the greatness of the soviet union. and it was a great country. that's whoever told me anything, yes , there were moments of difficulty. i grew up in the soviet union, i know them, i lived through them, but this it was a great country. and not that i’m nostalgic, because, probably, i’m still here, i’m in the seventy-fifth year, that is, i was too young when it broke up to be completely nostalgic like that, yes, but when they sometimes ask me , well, uh, well, well, the soviet union, what is it for you? so what's missing from there? a simple thing in a soviet passport
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when you were a citizen of the soviet union, you could pick up a soviet passport anywhere in the world like this. and around everyone would shoot at attention, simply, well, without aggression. you just showed. i am a citizen of the soviet union when you are a citizen of a great great country, and when i received all national passports. i don’t want to say anything about belarusian, but at the same time, it’s not the same scope, not the same, and i’m nostalgic, if nostalgia in our speech came from confidence in tomorrow, because we can’t compare what we are experiencing now. we are the funniest thing, after all , uh. here is the confidence of tomorrow. that's how much we have already lived through the reform of education, right? what do they change every year? well again i remember our childhood. yes, everyone knew when entering the first grade, you knew what to prepare for in the tenth or eighth grade - after eight
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there, and we clearly understood that nothing would change in 10 years, that's it. well, you have here a gap that you can you prepare yourself. uh, now god knows. here i am and the child is learning. today he is giving up the tt tomorrow the unified state exam tomorrow an oral exam, that in 3 days they will come up with something, where with it, then they will change something else, returning nevertheless to the soviet union and stability is good. yes, and now look, how much i remember very well, yes, and you, probably, like in our country, for example, were simply conscious. we need a balloon system, we need a bologna system. here, look, we are almost there, yes, but oh, everything, there is one comma left there and we are signing. all the agreements, and now the lord is watching, thank god that we well, we didn’t enter there completely, because it ’s fundamentally different and you know how when
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well, i don’t know, he really said, he didn’t say this or that, but they attribute these words to the president usa kennedy when the soviet union launched the first cosmonaut well, he said that the soviet union overtook us not in space, he beat us at the school desk. after that, by the way, the states greatly revised their approaches to education and copied a lot of the soviet union. and for some reason, we decided all this because of our floor, it was explained inadequately for our complex, because it’s better there, it’s right there, it’s good there. well, we are so happy. well, of course, let's see that we have already got rid of the illusion, or well, how are we, well, i mean, how much of the belarusians are serious about the sociology of the cut of opinion.
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i think that's definitely not all. well, i'm not sure even most got rid of it. mm. time will tell, time goes by, yes, and some things, because there is such a subtle thing, very , very much, who has whom? yes, i went abroad there, either to work, or in some other way. well , the first thing, after all, again, what a joke these open borders have played with us. yes, let them develop. we all went to europe to watch. well, look how they live, everything is cool. we are here on the last grandma. yes well, how is it more often? you see, smile familiar, then. we went as tourists, we saw the beautiful side of life. and few people even asked the local people. how do they even live there? for me it was, for example, a discovery. eh, about me. here i came here on the same emotions
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, in my opinion, here i looked at italy. they probably never get sick. here they are smiling happily. they weren't. these people don't get sick. here i have such a look, they do not get sick. well, well, look at them. they all such happy offspring happened there. there's a story with me. i was on a business trip. well , i needed the help of a doctor, and i ended up in a private clinic. well, that is, i was transferred there. borscht is a good private clinic, i went there, and i'll tell you that our district yes looked somehow better. this is a private clinic guys, it's all that there is state, there was such a queue that, well, here's real life for you. yes, at some point they closed our borders. they launched the iron curtain. here after certain events. well i, for one, well, first of all, what is
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the iron curtain. well, listen, today i see it's not so easy to do. like three years ago, i can honestly say for myself. i somehow ended all the visas there and me and, well, all of mine, and i understand that, probably, now it’s somehow not easy, i don’t even pull everyone it turns out from europe, that’s what it doesn’t. i’m not there at all, europe dived, you just understand that this thing, and i’m not inclined to idealize europe in europe, no one has canceled the architectural heritage that you just have to see with your own eyes, in a good way, this cultural heritage, including the world heritage in general, belongs not only to europeans. let's say this is world heritage and it's, well, everyone should be able to at least see it with their own eyes, because, well, no matter how cool the technologies are developing live. it still looks different than there
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, uh, virtual or whatever reality, and this is just architecture, and someone canceled, uh, european poetry, painting, but the thing that they deny our culture is just throwing it out of own life. so what, they make themselves poorer. and in no case should we do this, because this is a world culture. yes, it's just on the territory of europe. but this is a world heritage and we can't delete it in any way. the case is impossible, not great painters, not great authors. i mean prose writers and poets, not architects from their own shell , by no means no school desks in their time. yes, but nothing will be deleted. while we cut ourselves off, for a while, we found a child. she say do not be silent, subscribe suggest guests. ask your questions. oh we
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we can be different, if our future is at stake, some will suffer, others will enjoy, but everyone will get a result. any medal has two sides, even metal for feats of peaceful valor implies self-sacrifice to achieve a common goal . such people are unique . there are such valiant people among us. to eliminate it, this is a big policy , important, but complex and where is it that everything is never said about everything, publicly by the author igor's look at the main events in the country , see the project on
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the belarus 24 tv channel on the international arena . there, distizhinki zahavay traces of our ducts, and novokuina remembering the humming of their voices until the next story is the name of originality, and the month is cut out for how young gave? well done. the bride will be velma grumpy, loaf with fists more than shilo what do you think will be an asshole and let's give it to traditions. new grater.
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molina was smothered at the same time with the project at first glance on the tv channel belarus 204. on the air say again, don't be silent, and our colleague, journalist yury groev yur, is visiting us. well, such a question. you have been a socio-political leading correspondent for a very long time. and i think that i probably worked a lot with the president at the same parades. and perhaps in the field, again, you and the president are both from mogilev, tell me how you can evaluate them, characterize him as
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a person, and as a head of state. find. i would have at least one standing next to that one in charisma. now, uh, some, probably already wisdom, well, experience. and the management yes of the country, yes, and the age of all this together. his same often very. well, how they tease somewhere some phrase pulled out of context. yes, and then she hangs in an accident well, it seems to me, already so seasoned. that such things are somewhere so you know, so favorably even plays along. it seems to me that this is also a necessary thing, and it seems to me that he understands this so much you remember the device. let's uh, let's see. uh, it's parade time. we have a fragment of the video when yura was the voice of these
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same parades and we will show our viewers one video that went through three wars and ended its military history of manchuria and i remember its insane number of awards. and when i asked as a kid, grandfather. tell me what this medal is for. and what is this cake for? you know, my grandfather never told me anything. he just never told anything about the war and always when he saw the films and on tv that were shown. today he i don't know why he either switched or he left he i couldn't watch it and the only phrase i heard from him. uh, in the war, everything was different, everything was much worse, and it was terrible. it seems to me that here it is difficult to knock us out of belarusians to understand this, that war is scary, true well, how of those who are of all generations? yes, and us. but look how many years have passed. yes yeah, and
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now many of our people are beginning to perceive the war. like some kind of computer game? why, but the button was pressed, the rocket flew and there something got there somewhere. well, thank god all these here such figures, they are more couch. yes and now, let them not get up. okay it's gone. you see , how many generations already, yes, and less and less. unfortunately people who can tell well in the first person. how it was? but in fact, often very people who really. e were in some cool battles. they they want to remember it is hard for them. it hurts. they don't want to talk about it when you were in the agency or the news. and you gave all your free time to this very work. well, as it is now fashionable to say 24/7, so nothing the surprising thing is that
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you met your beautiful wife in a white television and radio company. and this office romance was or fate. they know it there, and here we can only build versions, well, where is natalya together now or what are you doing, did she do it? yes, and where natalya works now, she did not return and lives. she's, you know, like she's 20 years old. she is a director of the category so for a second, but 20 years. she says i'm two of it. well, here is the case when, yes. that's all it says, well, i had to. that's just, well, let's show the son son of the photo. how old is he now?
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alexander well, what is the hope or fear that he will choose a journalistic institute, of course, as fate is a difficult thing, but i somehow made him work. i say, this is where i come, so that you understand that where it all happens, look at it all in that one, he says, listen, dad, and when i grow up, i can also, like you, i say sushi. well, if you want, please, but well, you don't have to. well , you're never obliged at all . here's how i liked it, like any child, of course, he went into the studio. there the light turned on everything there, it was a huge screen there and it all glows. well, this is spectacularly very few, which of the children refuses. do you know from sofia too? yeah well, it's beautiful. it's just beautiful, yes, well then
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for the sake of the profession and a little for pr you already jumped with a parachute with pleasure. this is a super activity, in fact, i recommend it to everyone. well the first jump actually he was uh well by work, yes at work we had one then. an advertising campaign of ourselves, that is, atn everywhere in all the elements, yes, and in the air, in fire , e on the ground and under the ground. we are all elements in some way. they united there, which , well, under a common idea, we are everywhere yes, but i immediately chose the jump. although he may have chosen the jump. still, he analyzes me , you know, he got me there, it was just around the second of august. i had friends there, they still talk, the main thing is a business instructor. okay, but where are you going to work today?
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