is the central ideology of power, because it is a counterbalance. to all that slavic world. yes, we can clearly say for ourselves that in due time. in 2013 , the right-wing movement was simply bought out, bought out by western curators, no matter how trite it may be, few people know, but before these right-wingers. they considered themselves to be of the slavic race. i know too well the history of the right movement. but at some point, the right people from the pentagon appeared and offered money. and this right history began to preach. neo nazism, yes sleeping cell of western ukraine they were already ready for the transition to the new ideology,

of course, these organizations of the security service of ukraine were directly supervised. yes, there really were physical elimination of repression, criminal prosecution. to all those who were ready to oppose this nazi ideology with chalk. their hands were tied. they had an indulgence for the crime of power. they were used to suppress dissent because who killed the bead? after all? who killed the journalist sheremet, because who repaired the reprisals, sowed chaos, because it was very quiet with his hands. in today the situation in belarus is completely different, although ilya kieva and many other experts naturally spoke about this, that the prerequisites were due to the successful and high-quality work of the belarusian special services. these are the embryos they were, well, in

fact, ousted from the territory of the republic of belarus, but when, in your opinion, this is the formation, these prerequisites were already visible. absolutely right, you are nadezhda, i encountered elements of black nazism polotsk 2010-2012 and then i noticed that it was born in a group of young people called football fans, that is, a near-football party, when young and handsome guys came to one of the institutions in the city of novopolotsk. here we have slides in white t-shirts with the abbreviation 18 88, 14. i mean, no one understood what it was, but at the end of this great party, these guys took off their t-shirts and started zigzagging, they have

swastikas and other things that we talked about runes and so on, and then the security forces worked it out very clearly. most importantly, these young people who participated in this party. and they initially came and preached a healthy lifestyle. uh, no alcohol, physical excellent training good education the last trait when they showed themselves when they started trying to register the conscience 18 is a coded word. the conscience of adolf hitler and thanks to the state system of the state policy that is carried out by our president, our security forces. they cleaned it up very clearly and we saw that these young people were trained in the camps in western ukraine. zarnitsa other such all the games where neo-nazi

views were imposed on them under this guise. please note this was 2010-2011 . plenty of time to get ready, but let's go ahead and put some help on the screen for our viewers. what is this magical combination of numbers 14.88, please, colleagues. 14/88 is one of the most common nationalist symbols, where 14 means two slogans of david lane , the founder of the american russian group order. first, we must protect the very existence of our people and the future for white children, the second, because the beauty of the white aryan woman should not disappear from the face of the earth in english, both slogans consist of 14 words. the number 88 also has two interpretations, one is connected with the first part of the eighth chapter of hitler's book my struggle in the german version, there are just 88 words, another 88, and it can mean

a hidden greeting hai hitler, because the letter h is in the latin alphabet. just the eighth. you know, pavel, there are quite a lot, yes , tattoos of a certain kolovrat swastika are 14.88, and people worship adolf hitler they worship the desire to see an exceptionally risky nation, yes, on the earth, dominating, and at the same time, the current president of ukraine vladimir zelensky yes, does not hide his origin of jewish roots. here. do you think how it can coexist in one head, you know? this is a stunning paradox of ukrainian society. this is an absolute ideological eclecticism to the word ukrainian neo-nazism. after all, he does not refer directly to the german nazi system of the middle of the 20th century. german nazism. still based on the german classical philosophy on german romanticism. on nietzsche navager. ukrainian neo-nazism. it basically has three main aspects. it's

quite true aleksandrovich said the culture of football fans, who are buffed up aggressive guys. they are very convenient to use as. a power fist for all sorts of non-judicial repressions and coup d'etat, the second is 1488 sorry for the quote. white supremacist ideas. true, the ukrainian neo-nazis have not yet decided after all. they are aryans slavs or slavs, this is by definition aryans to the question of the ideological failure of this kind of sentiment, and the third is statehood. this is the distorted idea of ​​ukrainian russophobic anti-russian statehood, which actually underlies all these neo-nazi movements. today, they are paradoxically not anti-immigrant by their nature, not anti-semitic, as long as the president of ukraine is an ethnic jewish one, they are sharpened to counteract the russian ethnos. but this is an idea, it is at its core, of course,

paradoxically stupid absurdly, because the ukrainian nation is russian as putin says, i completely agree with him here. well, these are practically identical nations, one people is little russia, white russia, belarus and great russia in this sense , of course, this kind of insinuation looks like an attempt to simply instrumentalize the nationalist movement, turning it into a force that will be used to put pressure on russia for reprisals against the ukrainian opposition. well, in order to make it pleasant, to the west, as soon as these people mentally identify themselves with some kind of general civilizational western mainstream. in fact, all this, of course, upon closer examination, is complete ideologically untenable nonsense. it is molded from what was at hand. but alexander she is your look. that's how it happened that the civilized west. but in this case, you can put a civilized word in quotation

marks to discover that it contributes to the revival of nazism in the center of europe in the 21st century, closing its eyes to what is happening. but don't leopards with nazi crosses of european bureaucrats? in principle, everything is logical, what is allowed to jupiter is not allowed to the bull, and the west has always been guided by such principles when it was beneficial for them. they criticized nazism, when it is beneficial for them, they sponsor and support it. basically, let's remember the year 2004. yes, the first coup d'etat in ukraine when yushchenko was brought to power in an illegal way. then they tried, uh, tried to change. if only you had elections yes, but the street and the masses, well, then they had not yet resorted to the nazis and the nationalists. then some kind of liberal idea. here in the thirteenth year, they no longer resorted to the radical ideas that were needed to deform the core of the confrontation and

form anti-russia. after all, the ultimate goal of all these gestures. west is the formation of anti-russia. this is the concept of guest-strategic points in the foothold. yes, the formation of non-states around the russian federation for her in order to prevent it from developing and restoring its influence on eastern europe, that is, about this and for life to write in the ninety- seventh year, in principle, ukraine fell under this concept was used, how could ukraine be made anti-russian. of course , to raise the idea of ​​golitsy to raise the idea that was cultivated or cherished there, and even from time to time. e khrushchev's thaw, when all the arrested bendera were sent back there. and then they, in principle , passed on this ideology from generation to generation, and then from the ninety-first year gradually by western funds and western politicians under a curator. the secret services themselves, they were fed. and in the thirteenth year , actually combat

groups and combat battalions that were sent to overthrow the government. after that , they were even more pumped with weapons. even more gave them the opportunity to already start a full-scale conflict. in principle, this is a logical strategy, the west and the fact that they are radicals, that they are nazis and so on, nobody cares. they perform the task and west of it well. well, you know, it’s time to remember 17 moments of spring, as muller said to his squint, yes, if after many, many years in some point of the planet instead of hello we will hear hine there will begin the revival to our great regret. the west used a radical minority of which 1-2% was in ukraine began the return of these negative tendencies of movements, with which it is time to end. it's time to tie up for the sake of saving an entire people, for the sake of salvation, she asked the civilized west. i now invite all of us

present here to watch the video material prepared by correspondent simon schuster for the publication of zetime and it was made on the eve. special ops naturally me it seems that the motivation for conducting a special operation after watching this video is quite clear please. many ukrainians tend to see in azov not militants or extremists , but heroes of the war in kiev . thanked them for defending ukraine from russia but even on the march there were signs of the far-right ideology that is so prevalent. in azov, the symbols on their flags caused particular controversy - the emblem of nazism official symbol. the azov variety of the wolf cis was one of the symbols of one of the ss divisions during the second world war.

it's one of the more or less common symbols for neo-nazi groups around the world , and it 's not just about their symbols . basically recruited everyone who could? arms in hand when the ukrainian state was paralyzed, and the defense of the ukrainian state was completely in the hands of the ukrainian volunteers and so there were many adventurer guys who believe that they are on some kind of ideological tour to save. maybe the future of the west is the future of the white race. yes, yes. what worries officials in the west is the recruiting strategy. azov who went out of her way to build friendly relations with far-right groups around the world, especially in the us and europe during my 2019 visit. i spent the whole day on one of

the largest events in the history of azov recruiting thousands of people came to wear martial arts and outright propaganda. there were tattoos and posters of her with nazi symbols everywhere and many of them to the crowd. seems to be quite receptive to far-right ideology. azov-like events also attract recruits from abroad, one of those whom i met was called. robin he has just arrived in ukraine from sweden where he is wanted for hate crimes. it's so hard to explain to others it's surreal. it looks like what you used to read about greater germany in the 1920s. this is the renaissance between the european soul, and that's all. this is happening here in ukraine . after that we drove back to the base. azov in the north of kiev where the azov commanders did not allow robin to remain as a potential recruit. we are aryans and we

will resurrect this way of life. yes, here is an eloquent video. yes, i want to return again to what i said earlier about the fact that even our belarusian guys should be prepared to overthrow the government, and this was in the twentieth year. i was a witness to the fact that the guy with whom i was suing, who sued me in the eleventh year for the protection of honor and dignity, allegedly that i slandered him, that he would try on nazism. he stood in the forefront, threw stones at our policemen. that is, these people were being prepared for a coup d'etat, and in fact, when i saw him, here is his 2 m, he was between us. eh, almost 10 years later. he saw that i understand who he is, that is, you know such a concept as the moment of truth. they were actively prepared for freshening.

authorities, but this did not pass in belarus. here is ilya let's go through the personalities of the leaders or fuhrers of the infamous azov and the movements associated with it. and here is andrey ticket, a native of kharkov, russian-speaking until 2014, probably, who did not know the ukrainian language, or the same maxim zhorin. let's pay attention to his photo, a native of lugansk. know, under such pseudonyms, not a single native of western ukraine why russian speakers? and then ethnically russian people will suddenly give birth and be born in the clothes of radical ukrainian nationalists. the west generously pays here you have shown russian-speaking people

literally in the twelfth year. you look at the statements of biletsky. well, he spoke, but to the slavic race about the strength of the slavic people, but suddenly in the thirteenth year, in the blink of an eye. he immediately changes his rhetoric to russophobic and begins to propagandize. he is not nazism, because they paid for it , i say again, this is an artificial model formed, yes, on favorable ground ukrainian neo-nazism, which we previously observed in the same treatment. after all, i want to tell you that our grandfathers did not work well. here are all those who were fighters there in western ukraine. un were these punitive battalions of the waffle ses all of them and from this battalion of the ss division golichin.

after all, all of them needed to be destroyed, not rehabilitated, of course, then it was sown, the seed that sprouted today and ukraine really turned into a lullaby of cycism, neo- nazism azov is sacred today, a story that is cherished in the west, because that it makes it possible to show and popularize prusophobia, that the west needs a convenient, understandable model for the destruction of russians, and nazism fully corresponds to this, therefore, here you are, corrupt people. here is an effectively implemented project for you. and as a result, this is the war that we see today, but i would say that there is no need to narrow the scope of a special military operation specifically to destroy neon. or nazism, as such , is much more global today, liberation is global liberation

the ukrainian people, which is part of the russian civilization, and this is precisely reflected in the external in the new external concept of the russian federation, where it is clearly stated that the ukrainian people are an integral part of the russian civilization. and this is beyond doubt vladimir vladimirovich putin yes , blood is shed today, but unfortunately there is no other way yet. we can't. we must descend seven streams from ourselves, seven streams, only then will we appreciate our unity, our strength and our history. that's what's up with reality happens in a dream he is nazism. believe me , let's figure it out the wrong way, he is scary, because there is no ideology, and in fact he makes his speech. i want to say yes? god gave russia putin to belarus god gave lukashenko who managed to keep the country,

who managed to stop the resurgent neo-nazism and save the state. unfortunately, ukraine is not lucky in this story, but it is on the ukrainian example that we will write stories for future generations that we must not allow what we must resist and for what we must be together. i am authorized to declare that we are moving on to the second block of our discussion - belarusian neo-nazis in the struggle for a new order. and before we get into the discussion. i would like to offer to hear the direct speech of the leader of the republic of belarus, alexander lukashenko, regarding the belarusian. i can note that more in lithuania, unfortunately, and in ukraine

, members of illegal armed groups are being trained , attempts are being made to create sleeping extremist worms, directly in the country of recent facts. you are familiar with them testify to this. that is, we have. uh, they are preparing a forceful scenario for a change of power. we see it, we won't allow it. a lot is said today about the security of the republic, belarus yes, and in general the union state, and you know, after our discussion today , i came to the conclusion that if we can talk about a possible invasion, then the first people who run here will obviously not understand, but people who consider themselves to her nazis are the same belarusian neo-nazis, about whom we have already spoken, who are now fighting on the territory of ukraine and are clearly dreaming. yes, definitely

more advanced here. here. let's turn attention. in the photo, belarusian fans of the football club dinamo from left to right igor yankov andrei travtsevsky vitaly pigarev pumov. today they are fighting on the territory of ukraine, why is it difficult to ask for money, how to resist this today? how to preserve the youth of we, after all, colossal work was carried out after the victory of the great patriotic war, and now, they are still taken. here are the characters. these people work for money. what do you think, is it really only material gain that excites only money? they themselves they have cornered themselves now they have nowhere to go and they use them as cannon fodder they are used in order to, as you say , allow some. revenge in the republic of belarus in the twentieth year, but this will not be

all of them under the control of the security forces. what can we say about belarus about counteraction, because what happened in ukraine and in general is happening in the world, then we have the policy of the state and at the referendum we adopted our constitution , where it is clearly stated that we remember the historical memory of the great patriotic war. we we erect monuments, we treat our veterans with care and concern. we are sensitive to burial places. we honor this memory every third, belarus died. we understand that there were not only regular troops in belarus, but also a large number of subscribers and partisans. this genetic memory is very much alive here and here in belarus , unlike all of this europe, and in russia, too , they honor and do not demolish the monuments of the great patriotic war . that is, we instill it and leave it in the memory of our younger

generation. who is who, tell me alexandrovich has one more question. is it not one of the problems of the situation that has developed today that in soviet times they hushed up the topic of collaborationism, which pavel spoke of soviet citizens, including during the war years, and we perceived it. tragedies are the same babi yar or the colossal horrific tragedy of khatyn and exclusively, as the work of the germans alone, but this is not so. it’s not like that, ilya was absolutely right that exactly, when there was an amnesty in the fifty-third year, oops, they were simply released and not they began to occupy certain positions in the same ukraine and in order not to sow some kind of chaos in the soviet union, it was precisely this grain that began to be hushed up and sprouted, but the whole situation is that we now know that all these punitive operations that were carried out and the genocide of the belarusian people who during the great

patriotic war. these were nationalists, both ukrainian and baltic. we are talking about houses. we already know all this very well, playfully and secrecy was removed from it. if this matter, of course, had not been hushed up in years of the soviet union is possible, that is, a situation that would not have occurred in ukraine now. but then this was facilitated by the elites of that time, who tried to keep peace in the soviet union, i would say so. here alexander is really fascism. yes, neo-nazism is universally evil, there is no people immune from this virus. i think you will agree with me. well, how to deal with this problem. yes, i completely agree with you. yes, remember the soviet song. yes, there is no such family in russia, wherever there is no memory of your hero, yes and here in russia in belarus, in principle, ukraine is talking about the soviet about the soviet people. after all, our

ancestors gave in life. uh, every family. there is a hero from their dead, there are those who reached berlin , there are those who were not lucky, and they died before they died, giving their lives for our freedom from our future and the fact that the country's western intelligence services use national nationalist issues in order to countries to split from pri - this is an idea to our great regret. she's stara, she's efficient in many ways. she it was effective in yugoslavia, because in the same way the kosovo issue was raised, and in this way they ruined yugoslavia, in addition to economic issues there. yes, but this is for the political games that the western intelligence services have always played into the hands. therefore, in order to fight this, it is necessary to cultivate the idea of ​​a state, which is not built on nationalism. not on the nation, but on the people, first of all, on social benefits , on brotherhood, on common values, on a common history and common future, on a common aspiration

, not on the aspiration of a separate nation. after all it is clear that many countries are multinational - this is normal and countries should be a home for the nation and peoples, but you can’t pump out one thing, unfortunately. this is a political issue. in ukraine, it has always been used for a split. you will remember politicians always played. electoral preferences have always tried to do here with western ukrainians. it's first class. yes, there is central ukraine second, and the southeast, uh, russian-speaking or not? this is the third grade. this is modern yushchenko technology. but, if we delve into history, then we are right let's remember what happened under khrushchev. and if we go even earlier, we will remember when the catalyticization of western ukraine took place. yes, it was the golitsy and they hated the poles because they carried out the catholicization, and also hated the russians because they remained with their faith. that is, this issue is being dragged out by publishers, but it is necessary to occupy these problems, but to our great regret, in order

to stop it, you need to change this top, which exists in ukraine and has been for 30 years. after all, those politicians who were in power. they on the contrary, they stuck it out and did everything so that this question would rise sharply and split the people, but in no case would they sew it together, therefore, to all, uh, our friends yes, to all countries of fraternal peoples. the only advice is to conduct the correct ethnopolitics and never focus on the national specifically, you need to focus on the people's question and on the common future and common past. thank you very much alexander and pavel has a question for you and a collector as well, again i would like to talk today about problematic issues, so the question may seem harsh enough, but i can't help but ask it. like a person in belarus, i have a new one. involuntarily, a question arises. why in belarusian cities there are streets named after kostus kolyanovsky, it is not by chance that radical

nationalists took his name for their stick kalinovsky was an outright russophobe. i saw the belarusian lands only as autonomy within the restored commonwealth pavel nadezhda i think that the subject in belarus is to speak out aleksandrovich and i want to emphasize one very important point. here we are they said that at a certain stage of soviet history, the crimes of collaborators were hushed up? absolutely right? unfortunately, now this is not being talked about as widely as it should be, but it is very important to separate healthy nationalism and criminal neo-nazism at the conceptual level. what is nationalism in the best sense of the word. it is a desire to preserve identity. these are patriotic sentiments. this is protectionism. healthy nationalism is expressed by the desire to preserve one's culture one's identity one's faith to gain political representation within existing institutions and to live as the people deem proper to be right for themselves. these are the channels

of expression of conventional normal healthy nationalism. they are also needed. otherwise, there will be fertile ground for the transformation of nationalism into non-nazism. and by the way, that is why in russia, in response to the request of our society, amendments were made to the constitution and the concept appeared there for the first time two years ago. state-forming people and today we openly use the wording state-forming nation or the titular nation, when this nation feels confident, then other nations with it, but get along within the framework of these healthy inter-confessional and interethnic relations. this is normal, especially for such a multi-ethnic society as the russian one, as regards the tools to prevent the development of nationalism into neo-nazism. that is, here, as quite right, colleagues said. we need to withdraw funding. it is necessary to hit the structures. here we talked about the fact that the west supported ukrainian nazism and neo-nazism completely

right. the wrong policy has been implemented, at least since the twenties of the last century. why because they were ready to support even the very devil, even the devil, even any cannibals. if only they were anti-communist. remember how franklin roosevelt in 1939 about the latin american dictator samoso said that he was a son of a bitch, of course. well, this is, but this is our concept. that's about the current ukrainian neo-nazis. they can say the same thing, and i said about russia being lucky with president putin and belarus with president i agree with lukashenka, but i’ll also add that we’re also lucky that we don’t have oligarchic regimes in russia in belarus today. here, unlike ukraine in ukraine, uh, the nationalist movement receives funding not so much from the west as from their oligarchs, who raised these guys, fed them, took them out on the street, literally paid them. in the sense of training in the gyms, where they strengthened their physical fitness and

built up muscles in the literal and figurative sense in order to use them at the right time and spoke absolutely correctly colleagues that these phenomena were also in russia that we openly talk about our problems. i remember very well moscow in the mid-2000s, where people walking with their hair color even in the center at night was a very risky business, because skinheads were marching, because the okolofutbol movement was extremely radical right. uh, but pay tribute to president putin to the russian security forces. they did not allow something more to grow out of this, although even in the oligarchic near the powerful. uh, circles, people revolved, who said, let's turn this into our loyal base of support , hold russian marches, take people to the manege square. eh, people in russia remember. what kind of clashes, uh, were unfolding there , we will use it as an anti-migrant movement, but in

the end, the president and his advisers and law enforcement agencies. uh, i’ll tell you straight with an iron hand they drove all this shaven head to take her far under the mat. here, there are no others, and those are far away. this is the best example to others who think, or maybe enter into a similar kind of organization. there are such russian scum, the dobrovolsky corps, which is fighting today for ukraine, a banned terrorist neo-nazi group, and it has 150 people.