you press the story and there was such a heated discussion. uh, on the internet, some young people said that it was nothing to worry about a child. been there others say it's a crime. and then i wrote that i am waiting for the condemnation of this act from those from my belarusian colleagues about writers. that's who e will not condemn that i will not translate. and what to do, and what to do one pozhnyakov here in public. yes, how did the acceleration happen? you remember, she was also in this studio. i think, too, a worthy man, a worthy man. yes, especially a woman. yes very difficult moment proved to be a real hero, and about the monuments. and here is the attitude towards him, i’m sure they also remembered, uh, these fights with monuments and their destruction are a trend today. and for those whose brains are not cooked. well, let's be direct. well, if the global ones that time pushkin was already touched by dostoevsky and pushkin bunin and on the sides. here

you can continue indefinitely, this one is delighted, for example, from roman they are erno, this is the nobel laureate, 22 years old. well, you don't have to talk about it. although i think it is. well, on average, medical prose is closer to someone, maybe, uh, such good fiction jk rowling yes, but does such literature give? western literature answers to eternal questions and what can it oppose to russian literature, which they want to abolish all over the world? the word medicine in the question has already shrunk once again. in general, i think that i'm afraid, almost a medical concept , because when a person is bitter when a person is hard, he very often, how is he saved when he cannot, in general, put himself in order, someone goes to pray someone respects charka, someone takes up a book of poems. if it helps, then it's a cure. this is on the one hand. well, on the other

hand. there is an opinion that the great patriotic war was won by the teachers of russian literature, because they gave our warrior such a weapon that the enemy did not have along with them, and within the framework of korchagin and andrei balonsky and even jesus christ from blok's poem twelve. i'm not talking about soviet songs, there were none like that either. the blue handkerchief is not boots, there was nothing like that there was such an enemy, and this is a very serious addendum to the mighty weapon that was in our army. it all lay down on the altar, victory and brought victory, that is, even now there should be such a weapon, i am convinced that, in general, there was a very big mistake. i mean, it's not even a mistake. uh, the enemies who were collapsing the soviet union knew perfectly well

what literature was. this is the backbone of society. and what writers in general carry. e that understanding of what is happening thanks to which society becomes mature and that is why the real veteran's first thing was thrown to the side of the road. i'm trying to replace the laugh. here, as a newcomer, the west is there, look in america there were excellent writers i tell him. hey phew they have them. there , the revered, they are also replaced by some rusty writers. so they have the same problem. now they are not a problem. they are, they do not perceive. it's like a problem, they believe that what they will impose on the world now is what it is. uh, new values. the new one is coming along somehow. here is such a restructuring of the world that everything that was considered normal seems now abnormal. therefore, when

khlebnikov was seen back in the eighteenth year , he painted a woman who was generally noticed. we're on m-m eurovision yes, i happened to see. this is also bastards, but i remember this is your statement, when i don’t write poems well, yes, well, something like this makes sense, yes, and maybe, uh, these events that are happening now, after all, they contribute to the appearance and real poetry is real literature. or i'm wrong. you know that when it's very then the strongest thing appears not for nothing all the masterpieces world literature, they are tragic, deeply tragic, but some little period is needed to comprehend. still, a big one is seen from a distance to comprehend what is happening today. it's not for nothing that tolstoy wrote a brilliant novel. after some time , everything was already clear. what uh what, what happened then and what is right, what is wrong? what

feelings? what are the emotions of his characters? did you eat in general? it was also necessary to toast was something that is not for everyone. i think that the time will come already in russia now there is to write or which this topic is being dealt with and there are some seriously. here , a young poet sergei lobanov recently met in stavropol , he is on vacation. he came on vacation, he came to this seminar and ran to get to know me, because he says, i have known you for a long time and really wanted to personally, this suitcase is worth a lot. taxi will help put and we took pictures together, but it shows that the heroic guy. well, on such people, i won’t say that in russia this is the majority andreevich. you have and overseas premium there are many. in

total, i counted more than 50 literary european ones. yes, germany's canadian premier. hemingway, i am not mistaken , you are the only one of the post-soviet authors that is included in the german anthology 100 years of foreign poetry to the capital of the october revolution, an amazing fact in itself, especially today. well, at least they stayed today. there are some threads in this cultural exchange with europe, which pretended that russian literature of russian culture does not exist. you know, of course, it has become much less, but they stayed, by the way, with a literary european and stayed edited by a very interesting such person vladimir semyonovich basov, he was once a soviet dissident, then he went to germany and founded the union of russian writers in germany

he still heads, he is offended to russia for making him a dissident there, and almost wrong, therefore, he already has almost no russian authors, and to our country the kerchief on one of the sources is very good and somehow it turned out that, in general, well i have them often enough have been publishing for many years. well, uh, relatively recently, somewhere in the spring of this year. here is such a case, they, in addition to magazines , also publish annually the day of russian foreign such is collected from different people. strange authors and compiler, he is also an american professor victor feds, he is also a poet. well, then he wrote to me, these verses came, yes, the release, i assign the verses, and after a week or two i receive responsibility for the signature of fet

, the second compiler e, deduced forgivably in your verses this year we will not be able to put, because it is planned annually publish in kiev and in ukraine what new year it will be forbidden to publish authors from russia and belarus uh-huh that's all. well, after a while, says big big calls. i tell him. here is such a story. no-no-no, this is a mess, russian literature is such a period, even more god we are, of course, yes. dima, i'll figure it out, this is very strange, and after a week or two he sent me such a letter. we decided to break off relations with the professor, because it is not clear what these americans will come up with even further, and after some time. he came to germany released, that is, there are people who continue.

to support both russian literature abroad and, as well as contact for another matter, which, of course, they are all very afraid of, because now the president of the czech republic has said that in general everyone who is somewhere like this should be deported or evicted camps, so they are their phraseology, of course, they try to maintain such phraseology in the style of what they say in the west to condemn russia to condemn putin, but in general, as for a person, it concerns pure literature, they also try to get food out from under this avalanche, because they still want to save something. each story, especially in its own way to take out. no, let’s go home from work for a year, i won’t stay, there i

will return back to belarus because here we are the second half, minsk has become my hometown . ah, i feel absolutely comfortable here. our belarus unites them thanks to belarus ah. this connected the connection so that the husband has already begun to build other plans for the future, perhaps some kind of joint work and so on. watch in the program a look at belarus on our tv channel. it's impossible to know everything, but these guys are ready to prove otherwise. is it true that the giant planets of the solar system have a solid surface. i remember being in fifth grade. we studied this topic and it was said that all the planets, e, gas giants of the solar system, any adult would envy their

erudition and charisma. is it true that arina is not only a female name, but also an image of the sea. here is the name, marina, it means marine. what are the names of the artists? who paint seascapes. she sure feels like an intellectually entertaining show. i know is it true that this is the egyptian pharaoh the great conqueror in antiquity, thutmose the third mary, do you recognize us here from the third? no, i answered, but he recognizes you. you know, it's actually amazing, you haven't

stopped reading gogol shevchenko with you . yes, in fact, this is wildness. it's just wildness when the pushkin monument. i don't know how true such information was that pushkin recently won his last duel, when the bronze ones were being demolished in that world and his head came off from the mistakes of one of these idiots. well, this is a feed that worked instantly. yes, look anatolyevich. we saw together with you how in russia, after the beginning of its own , many cultural figures fell down in our country. yes, how shameful they repent to live in the interests of their state for many. unfortunately, it turned out that it was about the twentieth year. but what did this period become for you in the drama of the tragedy as a detective or

maybe a farce, and what both the other and the third and fourth, because that's it in this period. we have fully opened up people who, perhaps, used to carry something in their souls without showing it. clear? who is, who is not for nothing. uh, so many friends ceased to exist family ties. very often torn in many. and i broke up with you too.

he did not delete it, but unfortunately he wrote that there are such relatives among us. please don't contact me again. that's our relationship. fine? how do you explain why? we give them the right to think differently, and they give us such rights are not given. this is the most amazing thing, and here, uh, embroider, just migrants. it would seem that you, well, left this side. i don't like it. she is a stranger to you now. well, live in the interests of the side in which you are now citizens, which you turned out to be not

. it is still very important for them what is happening here, and they are still trying to tell people here. here they are sold to people who destroy them and help to destroy and advice on how best to destroy. here, look at all your main weapons - that's the word, of course. at least you succeed sometimes with this word weapon. i will not say that often, but people write to me, when i read it. here is what i read. this is what you write. thanks for the fact that you somehow clarified to me, that is, the brain is right a little. sometimes it happens, and more than once it is happiness. true, when a person realizes that he made a mistake, he admits it, and well, for the sake of this, both you and we are actually working. i read your interview even before the coup attempt. you are still there in the seventeenth year asking a question. who thought that in the republic

of partisans there would be writers glorifying activity, well, the executioner of the belarusian people wilhelm kuba yes in the twentieth year on the shelves of bookstores. well, as a symbolism, from which the nazis killed belarusians. how did you say it right, right? here, writers are often prophets, but they cannot always get through. you yourself admit this. why were we so tolerant and did we learn. fan, because we are such a people in the first place. well, secondly, there were a lot. in my opinion the overlooked technological field. for the twentieth year, everything has already happened. already even defeated them, and in the youth theater the show was still on. according to the decision

to supplement separately, some measures are taken so that , uh, they remove it, you say, the theater opened the season with performances that the paradox smoker watered it in general. he is not embarrassed, the reptile of the country, it's true, yes, even in the museum it's excellent. cork some events dedicated to natalia plants. you don't understand that if it's about us too criminal, he might have one question. well, i remember a phrase that ascribes other writers to stalin. i don't have for you. writer's union of belarus belarusian union of artists belarusian union of composers well, other creative unions , yes, how the state should work with them now, drawing conclusions from the twentieth year, in order to pursuing an attempt from the outside or from the inside to shake up the situation and, well,

our creators will shed blood here. here they rushed in a single impulse for the country's shirt and stalin defended it, which should happen. it seems to me that the state should first return the profession of a writer. we don't have. together with the rusty soviet union there is no such profession to write, writer poet composer and artist is an artist. we want a new one to appear, to who wrote the person. the chinese experience cannot be the same, chinese indeed. starting the writers' union to become very difficult. but if you

get up, there are three categories, the highest category of writers, these are recognized masters. they get a good salary. they don't even pay rent. they are free travel from the state, just like a writer , there are writers of the second category, who have much less benefits and write and the third category, who also receive some kind of benefits, well, a small salary. and here they are on state support, the state monitors what they do. and they are , of course, they are, but they were like the state occupied in the soviet union, there was something similar to soviet literature. she's still not much. what i created positively. right, right? let's learn, let's learn. why don't you repeat this experience? i understand that there are an incredible number of people who have received writer's tickets now that are easy to record. i would spend, for example, a certain kind of re-certification for a country like belarus well, i think that in general

it is 200 people enough to have more than 70 of them in our union. there is another plane that 400 people is still the union of belarusian writers. they didn’t divide it up anywhere, they dismissed it, but there were also more than a thousand there, and well, it can’t be. so many people are real writers. history only shows that well, the era, well, let’s say five seven to ten people could be real poets and 20 more people on this same krug says pushkin so pushkin krug on this tyutchev circle from them, too, something worthy was left of the rest. well, they write. eh, but it's not literature. they write. it's better than writing somewhere under the collar or playing domino but it's still, let's say, not a profession. these are not real creators. real want some. and this is where we need

to help. that's even the renaissance, why is she so leonardo or melange? yes , for some reason, because there were those who ordered them all for those who helped them live, if the state is aware that high art, but it must be really high. really stand, do not sweat. we will pay you when you do. and how is it then , how does a person do it later, if he doesn’t have it, it’s money to buy. now, yes, as i will later . no, you must first determine what it is doing, and then support it. so it was probably possible to do. if he didn't, maybe say sorry, we made a mistake. you are not a creator, but i see, so without the state an opera house cannot exist, for example, never under any conditions market, maybe all this should be supported by the state, and it is supported in our country in our country , i have been much compared with russia, they

dream that the state publishes a book for someone, they pay for it. albeit small, but the fees of us. well, things are better, she said, only dreaming needs to do it all the same. but we talked before the interview. all my life i have advocated a certain grant system, namely the state grant system, when funds are purposefully created and these there are, well, in some areas they really exist precisely in relation to writers, directors, scriptwriters, artists , sculptors, those who are really talented , and the selection of grant is a mark of the state that he is necessary, interesting, talented. unfortunately, this was understood in the west earlier than yes, with us, and therefore all these funds appeared and receive bonuses, there are trinity and all that, who receive them only

exclusively for people because of the position that came out, uh, to those people who then were the soul of the protests. well they do now the same. all these newly-minted nobel laureates are politicized. let's be completely truthful. i mean belarusian origin. yes, it is obvious that this was done in defiance of the state to the detriment of the state, so here i will note not talent. well, your grandson was in the children's military-patriotic camp of valor, where they trained young special forces, an amazing fact for me, i really read it with pleasure. why today such worthy words as valor, honor, patriotism, duty, they became at some point almost abusive, we began to be embarrassed by them and now, how do you like these current cringe and hype, yes, which we use all the time, which broke down in the heirs of the great history and the great

war. and here's how to fix it? if i have heard, these are the words that generally twitch me, sorry, yes, that i used them in a belarusian sanatorium, in which the recipe is written in russian letters. why is this being done? second? so there you won’t find that name for me in russian at all. well, by the way, there are very few in moscow. why are you buying and looking? plane ticket in russia for domestic flights? what's in english? well we're still in front of them being done. that's in addition to all the regalia and awards. you are also an outstanding translator , not only a poet. this video of horace lorca borkhiz, dubogdanovich, kupala was translated

now i am translating the creative process. you can say so, yes, and that's why i call translations a transcription, because i translate a lot of the application there. well, here is the twentieth year. he also showed such ust cultural and historical baggage. he is very many people, and, i would even say, maybe be, let our viewers understand me correctly in two generations up to 20 and even up to 40 years old, not all of them. true, thank god well, for many unfortunately, but everything has already been written by those whom you translated, so what is the problem difficulties in translation for these generations, yes or such a catastrophic uneducated. i think no one else but a disastrous lack of education. now she scores everything, because you look, there is no continuity anywhere among journalists, young people

are, as if not even journalists, compared to what it was, say, 40 years back, they don't know how to write a felito, but they don't know what a problematic article is, they don't know what a judicial section is, and from what side it is taken. uh, i honestly confess to you, some do not know who georgy konstantinovich zhukov is, they cannot explain who stalin or lenin is, unfortunately, this is a fact, right? and what to do with it ? well, western liked you. why is this should it start? this is ours. well, of course, they missed a generation and not a single growing union, about which a generation of people has grown up for more than 30 years who have never lived in a single

country. they have already been educated by the families of their children. they never lived with russians in the same state as russia , disobeying something that goes through the press, there is television through radio through cinema, which is american cinema. i consider in general an ambush regiment that by the stream, that only exclusively american militants are nothing else. well, they have the concept of state order there are films like this. it's true, but they are waiting here, they dumped it on us, and they themselves read books. now e we have weaned for dreaming. that's why it was so stupid to accept what? why are you so do not know, it always shocked me, but it is necessary to carry out the sleeves, as the president happened to work. it is necessary to engage in saving, the young generation is nothing, inspired with it. everything is fine.

explain to me then you come to perform somewhere like this now. they are accustomed to treat me. well, why should i and why? well, you come, they start listening at the beginning, and then they start asking questions, and you can see that they become interested. where else can you read it. where can i get your book. and where, how, well, elevated people and good people with us. now , if about fashionable revolutionary literature, yes, after all, they often begin, in contrast to our work, to recall remarque hemingway , calling them revolutionaries, and use them as revolutionary knowledge. well, you translated poems of chemistry, he really has a lot of chopped poems about the war, well, he has a corresponding biography . well, are these authors really

revolutionary? you, as a specialist, can say and are called to the barricades, as they want to present it now? well, hemingway or the brand is also a writer of very large assets. we won't talk. this is, in general, so, in my opinion, a person accidentally caught in the era with his works, which are so often referred to. well, these are really big writes, or, well, another thing is that they are not in their homeland, even because they are there now. why else is it not in america? needed, not in the mouth. not not not everything else says nothing, too, it prefers to read something lighter, some of these militants and all that, where the americans win everyone. in fact, america is all beautiful.