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open their ice for you. we bring the traditions of calmness and at the same time we change our views on the sound. and robing is light, yakmahalevshy. belarusians are so different, and whether they are i know one love of the people's land, belarus 204. my name is elena bormatova. i am a correspondent special television news agency, belteria radio company. i would like to talk about my large-scale project, which we are doing together with the state security committee without a statute of limitations. hello

, you are watching the distortion program be silent in the studio svetlana smolonskaya and tatyana shcherbina and today our colleague elena bormatova is our guest. lena good afternoon. good afternoon good afternoon elena well, our viewers know you as a tv journalist not only as a correspondent, but also as the author of a number of documentaries. are you working now on cycle no statute of limitations in cooperation with the state security committee. what is unique about this project? well, the uniqueness of e, first of all, is that for the first time we are revealing, let’s say, some moments, and criminal cases, which today , 50 and 60 years later, are the state secret of belarus. it’s clear that we can’t show. eh, everything that is hidden. yes, as they say, but some things, that is , documents on which the flu is not classified. we show that before us

, no one did these criminal cases. seen everything several people people who initiated these criminal cases. and the people who keep , that is, the employees of the central archive of the state security committee, and we call it the criminals for the first time , the names of nazi capable laboratory assistants, and collaborators of people who were during the great patriotic war. they took an oath of allegiance to the third reich and destroyed peaceful soviet citizens, including children. elena but when you touch these documents, which you really saw there, only literally 1 2 3 people were there. what are your feelings? but it's hard for me to express my feelings. what do i feel at that moment? i'm just doing my job, and i'm looking for , uh, in these criminal multi-volume criminal cases, some moments that are like.

it seems to me that they should be of interest to the viewer, that is, to me and for example, it is always interesting to see hmm the profile of the arrested person in what sense, and i always refer to the year of birth at the time of the crime. how old was this man? did he have children at the time of the crime? and when he was arrested were his parents alive, i’m always interested to know what the parents felt when their son was arrested, what the wife felt when she found out the truth about her husband, what the children felt when they found out the truth about their father, because in fact terrible things happened yes, people returned after great patriotic war. lived a normal life were honored people at work. here we are reading the testimonials, and on those arrested, when m-m has established himself at work as a do-it-yourself worker. many already had

children. but many in the forty-fourth year, when the front advanced, they got rid of, uh, the same ss clothes, well, or from the clothes of the police, they joined the ranks of the red army. they went on to liberate europe, they were often injured, and returned as invalids of the great patriotic war. they were calm here, as veterans of the great patriotic war were told at school about their heroic past. they received awards, both for the capture of berlin and for the capture of koenigsberg. that is, they were honored people. uh, with many continued some kind of military career there, and uh, shoulder straps from them filmed already at the time of arrest, and many occupied some high places. positions yes, why was this the defect of the special services for the forty -fourth year, it was an occupied territory. ah, they are documents in civilian clothes. well, the germans burned the village, because there are a huge number of villages. we

have destroyed. go. check that, there is some kind of minimum check. they naturally passed, but the main test is a test in combat. here, he is a battlefield, he has proven himself well. but many even left, not only that, they joined the ranks of the red army, and in partizansk detachments and there was also a check and many even some many some such cases were that they were not just in the partisan detachment. and partizan well, let's just say the nkvd unit, that is, where they served, in fact, the chekists are professionals scouts, uh, and check the battles. they proved themselves and received awards and returned to civilian life. good self. but, nevertheless, the secret services continued to work. even after there under 30-40 years. they still found these, of course, they even took them. we are such a great example only a gunner. yes, they are a woman. yes

, the executioner woman, who was searched for more than thirty years, belarus, uh, suffered in the forties, like not one other. uh, the country of uh europe is an occupied country in europe, we had the largest number of concentration camps. we burned the largest number of settlements, killed civilians and you see the final figure. we do not know all this today. uh, we still have to find out . hmm, to bring a lot of research and scientific work, and elena , one of your films in the cycle came out to the eightieth anniversary of the khatyn tragedy let's see a small fragment, the khatyn tragedy, we break the sealing wax from archival documents. we could tell the truth, which in fact was easy, shot at a machine gun. again, the information was closed for today white spots. no, what

happened in the forest village 80 years ago? there is a threshing barn, where the villagers are located , so the translator of the battalion is lukovich, an easel machine gun was installed opposite the doors, behind which the trick is not a pity, and then people began to beat out and fired at those who ran out

the eightieth anniversary of the tragedy a documentary from the series without a statute of limitations. they burned the huts, len, well, even in the film there is a phrase that there are no more white spots . indeed , many, many films have been shot about the khatyn tragedy. well, you made some discoveries for yourself. i don’t even know, well , you can’t say interesting facts, maybe some unique facts. it is here even in this fragment, which was shown by the grandmother, who says that creed was heard, and at the time of the tragedy. it was a girl. lived in a neighboring village literally 1.5 km directly. this is a direct witness of those events. she went with the children from khatyn to school. she sat at the same desk with them, and therefore a-a 1.5 km, that is, the glow was visible in her village and the bullets

flew there, that is, to find such a person. this, of course, is journalistic luck and hmm. i want to say thanks to the people who helped us in making films, the same local historians, and the same historians who deduced, uh , they said to such people that there is still such a grandmother. she is already there 87 years old, but they sometimes, but hmm changed their plans and went to record these people, because we know that today they are. and tomorrow it may be scary they will no longer be. and who, if not they, can tell what they saw with their own eyes, but what else is unique? vasyury. but there was, uh, the 118 ukrainian police battalion, which

consisted of several hundred people, and in that there was also a ukrainian company from the der-livanger battalion of the most cruel punitive unit of nazi germany and hmm, and the members of the der-lewanger battalion were arrested back in the sixty-second year. they were judged by several lawsuits. including one took place in minsk and then for the first time they started talking about the ukrainians burning khatyn. and let's, by the way, look at another fragment of one from this film. the fact that the executioners of khatyn were ukrainians during interrogation back in the sixty-first was said by joseph kamensk the only adult who managed to escape from the burning barn, but ukraine was one of the 15 fraternal union republics , a neighboring country, a sister slav, so the first secretaries of the communist party of belarus and ukraine decided not to pedal the situation. for a long time we did not open our

archives, and we did not give these materials, that is, the information was closed for today e blank spots. no, we didn’t want to offend , we lived as one family now belarusians hmm belarus continues to help ukrainians, according to the state border committee, and from february 24 to 22 more than 100,000 citizens of ukraine arrived in belarus, we accept ukrainians, we provide assistance to them. uh, employment with housing, but part of ukrainian society. it’s not that they don’t worry about us, but they generally make statements that they are ready to kill us. here you have e pondered. you, perhaps, someday, like the west, managed to turn against belarus against russia. that's the development of russophobia in a fairly short time of 30 years. it seems to me that in ukraine, especially in ukraine , these trends were observed even in the soviet

time. but even before all these military events. and if you visited western ukraine, including that lvov yes, otherwise they called the soviet period none other than the soviet occupation and after all, if we take, even that 118 ukrainian police battalion that burned khatyn is there, and the lion's share of the participants in this military units come from western ukraine chernivtsi region, as a rule, and not only against russians, but belarusians, they are set up, but hmm, we remember, donbass is the fourteenth year, when ukrainians killed ukrainians, when people were burned alive in odessa on may 2, 1914, and then the west was silent and now they say it is silent now, and the soviet army, which liberated the same europe and poland hungary czechoslovakia passed all of europe, reached

berlin now europe is demolishing monuments to soldiers liberators, monuments to soviet soldiers, liberators in european countries are demolished first of all, and working out some kind of ideological policy, trying to manipulate public opinion, and rewriting historical facts, and events world war ii and are doing everything possible so that in the west and the soviet union as a victorious country, and more and more quietly it sounded less and less and they talk about it, the victorious countries of great britain america and the soviet union are coming to the fore recently less and less about it and less talk about the country, which in fact defeated nazism, which lost a huge amount. e. hmm there are tens of millions of people, belarus has lost every third inhabitant of its neighbors continue to arrange a monument to stalemate. and

hmm, the worst thing is that even on the eve of the mournful the date of june 22 in the lviv region, which you already mentioned, three monuments to soviet soldiers were demolished at once. here is one of them, and a couple of days before that, the monument to yuri gagarin was demolished well, because he is a soviet cosmonaut. here is how the official representative of the russian foreign ministry maria zakharova commented on this. the bust of the first cosmonaut gagarin is just interesting to me. it’s just that now, from the point of view of the kiev regime, he’s not the first cosmonaut or the first non-cosmonaut or not gagarin or what happened to him for so many years the monument stood, still it was a normal question, what happened something? not only that, it is absurd that they are soviet scientists, uh, who were born on the territory of present-day ukraine and regardless of how these soviet scientists called themselves, how they were recorded in their own documents, how they felt themselves in accordance with a cultural code

is also attributed, and hmm, ukraine is recorded as ukrainians. well actually, as far as i remember, at least. uh, no one denied this according to the information that now and uh, korolev is the inventor of korolev too, but ukrainian. it turns out that i have a question then, if korolev is ukrainian, then why is he, and in all senses of creation, why is gagarin then amen demolish the monument to him. it's kind of absurd. well, after all, some kind of logic is needed here, a test of logic, no. yes, no logic, if in ukraine they demolish monuments to the same gogol who was considered their national uh genius, yes, that is the same poland, after all, poland during the great patriotic war, and the territory of poland - these are several of the largest

death camps, and after all, a sweden has sobibor. uh, the nazi unit killed thousands of poles in poland well, now poland what is it doing is demolishing monuments to soviet soldiers who liberated them from nazism liberated them from the brown plague, in general , everything happens the world turns upside down absurdity absurdity and at the same time . here, uh, yes, ukraine demolished a monument, gagarin, uh, demolished monuments to other figures and a liberator warrior, and at the same time, but puts up monuments to bandera, and hmm bandera’s birthday is a national holiday of ukraine, the person who destroyed that number of ukrainians, and let's not forget the babiyar. there are tens of thousands of e, jews, and not only were they destroyed, he had a hand in this. e. the same, bendera , the same 118 ukrainian police battalion, also participated there,

then they were transferred from kiev to belarus, supposedly the official version to fight the partisans, but we all know how they fought the partisans, destroying the civilian population of children. when i looked at the corners. the case is the same, vasyura, at the time of the crime he already had a little daughter, his daughter was born before the war. and then there was already a father who must have had some parental feelings. i just watched how children burn, that is, i don’t understand this, when we worked on this film in grodno, we recorded the investigator who conducted these criminal cases, and he told how they arrested the lapust in donetsk, he lived a miner enough. well, i had a good standing at work. my daughter , who was studying, and at the institute at that time headed some kind of komsomol organization , e.g. when she found out, she wanted to throw herself out of her window girl, that is, for her. it was a shock, and i

understand because she grew up in the dark about her. papa was the dearest, closest, most beloved person, he knew this truth, and for sure, dad said that he fought, defended his homeland and performed feats, of course. of course, or the same as the trick. uh, they call him the last executioner of khatyn, who died already, in my opinion, in 2015, if i ’m not mistaken in canada and the soviet union and then independent, belarus, canada did not repeatedly request his extradition betrayed him and then he also financed, well, one of the let’s say patrons invested, and the monument to the ukrainian nazis in chernivtsi, that is, he was made an honorary citizen of chernivtsi and i, when i read it too, but interrogation protocols. here are the members of this 118 police battalion. one of them says that yes, until the fortieth year our territory belonged to hungary and then became ukraine

when the nazis came , these nationalist ukrainian organizations began to recruit us in the so-called smoking. there bukovinian root was another idea was. that they will not participate in any military e, there will be no actions and ice cream was given out. and then they already, well, i don’t know if the word fought here is appropriate, but nevertheless they were oriented that they would take some kind of action there, well, or fight for the independence of ukraine well, then they were transferred to a chicken. they, among other things , participated in the murders in babina vehemently, but, and then already belarus lena well, it’s really impossible to listen without tears to the stories that you are telling us now, which you broadcast in your films, let's think about it all in a pause. for now, you can subscribe to our telegram channel. that's what it's called. say don't be silent propositional guests.

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belarus 24 tv channel on the air say again, don't be silent. and today our guest is elena bormova, special correspondent of the tv news agency, laureate of the president's special prize. elena and you shot the first film from the cycle without rocking about a concentration camp, let us remind the viewers of the story that the nazis put up 50,000 old men, women, children, as a human shield in front of the advancing units of the red army of the british army collaborators also helped people, about whom we have already spoken above after all. do you have an explanation. why did these people agree to serve as a fascist, besides the fact that they were saving their lives, i can't find any other explanation. that is, everyone wanted to survive in these conditions somehow happens because no one cared, after all. eh, when we made a film on dealers, it was one such

episode that shocked me in general. i could not understand how it is when a person who went to the service of the nazis served as a relevander participated in punitive acts. after all , his mother was killed in one punitive action, and he still participated, that is, if he was given the order to shoot people. does it matter who was there? his godfather, sister, uncle, aunt, he went following the order , that is, well, when your mother is killed, yes, he is in a parallel one, that is, he participated in the wrong village, but he was at the same time. uh, a few kilometers away, he destroyed it in another village. that is, he collaborated with those who killed his mother, that is, his friends in the same battalion. yes he he served with them in one battalion. i don't know if it's a pity, they met each other's hands or how it happened, but nevertheless, he communicated with his mother's killers. that's what it is, i don't know,

something animal in a person. although in this case i don’t even want to offend the animals. i don’t know what, well, here’s a sense of self-preservation, but other people they refused, even when the threat to their lives was shot by people who hundreds of thousands ended up in prisoner of war camps, the so-called staff camps there, and the germans recruited someone, someone went to cooperation with the germans. and someone continued uh, hmm to starve. there they gave him a gruel of this, which food was difficult to name. yes , and who died of typhus, who died of hunger, who died from beatings, who were killed, on whom they ate because they had not washed for months. yes, they continued to live like this, because they need some kind of pride, but a sense of dignity, pride of responsibility, and they let me go to the side of the enemy, and someone e walked calmly, because they

were recruited. uh, advera worked at concentration camps, german military intelligence and counterintelligence. they laid a table for them, in fact, there was cognac and marmalade and coffee and the broken psyche of people. and hmm, yes, that is, they see such an abundance, they understand how they will live the same way we, when we were preparing films, we talked with the investigators who were conducting the criminal case. yes, and they say, they just calmly talked about it, they did not have any feeling of regret or repentance, there was and was. well, what's interesting, because some prisoners of war cards have been preserved and the germans do not have a nationality like that they didn’t single out how the ukrainians even had the letter u on their prisoner of war cards, because , again, the ukrainians made contact very easily. well, i don’t want to offend this nation there, let’s not speak for everyone to remove it. yes, yes, but the facts speak for themselves, and

there were belarusians and russians. yes, i do not argue, but the majority of ukrainians. the same direvanger battalion. the same 118, the ukrainian police battalion is also ukrainian sonya , who was recruited in a concentration camp near e, lesnoy concentration camp near baranovichi, we used e, in those days e people were used, as it were criteriological weapon, uh, they were infected with this typhus. let's see fragments of your film orichi death camps in the area of ​​​​populated areas to tear up and the bog and boletus were experimental similar ones were planned to be created throughout belarus in places where, according to the nazi leadership, it would be extremely difficult to contain the advance of soviet troops, and people infected with typhus would help stop the soldiers the red army was still in elemental when he reported to hitler about the creation of these messages. he said that if this one the natural environment of the swamp and the conditions that

they will create for the prisoners. that is, without medical care without pure water. without food. here, it will begin to develop very quickly with the back. if this epidemic does not er, develop as quickly as necessary. we will bring people here already, 7,000 people infected with chain typhus were brought here in germany at this time a special brochure of the manual is being published, where the algorithm of actions is described in detail. and how to carry out the deportation of the civilian population? how to infect defenseless people with a different typhus and how to create a barrier from children at the forefront of defense? and now? as a matter of fact, we now and then see news about the fact that an american biological laboratory was discovered there, then suddenly in one country, then in another, that is, all over the world , in fact, that is, nazi methods continue, but the fact is that the nazi after all, germany also wanted to use chemical weapons on the kursk bulge and thanks to

special groups, including the nkvd partisan intelligence, and this was prevented, and since a is in the red coast under gomel, an echelon was discovered and a sample was sent to moscow and with chemical weapons and e to hitler then hmm the leaders of america england, including stalin, were invited to this meeting. ah, it was said that if, uh , you use chemical weapons, then the soviet union and the allies have the right to use them against. uh, the wehrmacht and some nazi units on the kursk bulge, but they didn’t use chemical weapons, but the nazis didn’t stop and they decided, uh, to use bacteriological weapons against children here old people and women. yes, the death camp, azarichi. this is one of the most terrible death camps, we are talking about concentration camps, but this is precisely

the death camp, and in contrast to the same terrible, let alone face. there were no rooms here. there were no barracks here, it was an open area. hmm. it was a swamp. it is the beginning of march, when the temperature drops below 15°, there are a few children during the day. uh, in general, they didn’t feed people, they threw some kind of bread to them, which consisted of sawdust, and there was also an airplane that sprayed these gases. uh huh no medical help then yes, we are now, yes, we are going outside, it is -15 ° there, and we are in clothes. we are sometimes cold and it seems, it would be faster to go into the room. there are 24x7 people in the open-air swamp, that is, no. even sometimes warm clothes from their houses. uh, they took away and veli many along the way and lost their shoes, but they took them away when they entered this camp, like a camp, yes, that is, uh, in fact, into a swamp on the territory of the swamp, which was covered with barbed

wire from them they took away everything and documents. there are some warm things. someone had some kind of cracker had fires, no no allowed to kindle it. that is, if someone kindled a fire in some way to save the children. babies were there too . when we even recorded, a prisoner of the ozar death camp. uh, faith, kuryana, and she is still. how long has it been 80 years? yes, she still says, i'm afraid of the fire. i can't go near the fire even during the day. that is, how much a person's psyche was disturbed in childhood. uh, we remembered vera kuryan hmm in our recent episodes with andrey gulakevich. he told this story and told the story of her brother, who there tried to a from a can of stew, which he threw away the rest. eh, german, e scratch your finger and anoint your mother's lips, which was lying on

the ground and the second is also another terrible story. not even one spoke. we are another member of this death camp, illumine. nadezhda los did you record it too? elena well , of course, it is impossible to listen to such stories without tears. and, probably, it is also important to note here the fact that we are meeting on the eve of the big independence day holiday of the liberation of belarus, which some time ago, you talked with juvenile prisoners of the district camp, and there were how many 8-10 of them. well, the first film was shot in 2019. there were probably 8-10 of them. well, we recorded 8-10 people. and, when the film was shot already in the twenty-second year, when it became known that collaborators participated there, and the citizens were former citizens of the soviet union who went to the service of the nazis, and of those people whom we recorded 3 years had passed, and in only vera kuryan was alive, vera sergeevna kurenko, who lives in bobruisk but in the nineteenth year. i

have been looking for her for a very long time. why is she and she has a photograph, when you liberated the camp, and then a military photographer captured it. and this is the most famous photograph, when a girl is standing, with big eyes and something wrapped around her head, like a scarf and it turns out it was grandfather's shirt. that's about mom. she told her mother, because they considered her dead, they didn’t want to evacuate her, and then grandfather put glass on her mother’s lips, and, well, in this way, mother saved her, and there are a huge number of such cases, but there, uh, when even in the nineteenth year we shot the first film. unfortunately, prisoner of this camp. uh, it’s hard, he was ill, he couldn’t meet with us. now he is no longer alive. and i don’t remember exactly where he lived, but it seems to me in gomel and hmm he was born in the death camp of azarić. that is, his mother gave birth to him, and there he had the only place of birth

, the death camp of the asarii was written. what a paradox will be born in the death camp, yes, but you know that i succeeded too, maybe some kind of journalist. good luck in the nineteenth year. when we went on a business trip to germany shoot there in the bundes archive, including documents on the death camp, azarichi, and we recorded interviews. well, with the grandson of the guard of this camp, he was born, after the war he did not see edushka, but his grandfather got into it. uh, in bobruisk in the boiler of the bobruisk boiler was in captivity at the beginning of the forty-sixth year. at the end of the forty -fifth he returned to germany and speed died. just a few months later. he grew up without seeing his grandfather. the only thing he saw is a photograph of grandfather a and that's it. time he was told that his grandfather heroin, fought on everything on the eastern front, and when he himself became a grandfather, he wanted to know. eh, the history of the heroic past of his grandfather. yes, he sent inquiries, including the bundes archive, the red cross, and when

the answer came from the bundesarchive that he served there with the thirty -fifth infantry division, he began to search the internet for what kind of division it was and where it fought before coming, and the answer from red cross, he says, my hair is already moving. and when confirmation came from the red cross that yes, grandfather was in the death camp, azarichi. he tells me, i understand that i must look into the eyes of people whom my grandfather deprived of their childhood. to ask for forgiveness to repent, or simply, probably, because he came to belarus several times even earlier, and he met with the prisoners. i told him how much you were. well, it's hard. i don't know if it was scary to watch. he said yes, very scary. i was afraid that, well, people would almost tear it apart, but those prisoners who passed through this death camp as children greeted him quite

good-naturedly. he was very surprised by this , and at the same time his own brother, who does not want to hear anything about what is happening here, because their grandfather. he was a wehrmacht soldier and the wehrmacht was just following orders. even today in germany there is the doctrine of the criminal and the criminal ss and impregnable vermah, that is, but the fact that the german army was involved, including the destruction of dozens. thousands of civilians try not to talk about this. elena, before watching this movie, youtube issues such a warning, and this content may scare or shock some users. who do you think about what does this foreign platform bake and hmm the second question is, do such films need to be shown to schoolchildren, for example, or is it necessary to protect their psyche to children who are already at least 10-12 years old ?

yes, we protect them. mm, take care of their psyche. ah, but they are watching even more terrifying content. after all, we don’t show some horrors for 26 minutes, but we show what happened, but on this territory, and we show in a photo or video from criminal cases, that is, when excavations, there is some kind of skull bones, some special cruel things. we try not to show. uh-huh, but ahh, a child who studies history and who studies the history of his country and wants to know the truth about what happened. they serve as some kind of pro-western or western, but the sources of information that they present. e the same story as expressed, but in the context that is beneficial to them. i mean, they do. they, too, and hmm let's say, are guided

by their information policy. well, we even remember how even in the twentieth year, in my opinion, commercials began to appear with grandfathers, uh, who said, well, it’s normal when the germans are alive. they even gave us zukerkas, of course, but there were such ones and there are such today, yes, but what the partizans say, the partizans robbed there and that’s it. why don’t they remember the rest , when, for example, it goes, partisan clouds, yes, because the same wehrmacht, the same nazi other units that were already here on the occupier. after all, they burned villages on the territory of the oni, so that there was nowhere for the partisans to come, they went into the village. there are no men. yeah no men, that means a bandit village, that means all partisans. and the fact that people on the fronts are also fighting. this was of no interest to anyone, and in sarai they burned both a two-year-old child and a 15-year-old child were stolen. there , in germany, yes, in khatyn, the same 7 weeks old, the youngest child at the block of women, when they fled there under the christmas trees, hid the children , they returned, an hour later. he’s already stabbed that this child has already done to the nazis, and as

a rule, they themselves had grandfathers . yes, there were young people who didn’t experience the instinct of fatherhood, there were those who themselves germany's children have recently intensified interest. even among children , the topic of the great patriotic war, the events that took place during the years of occupation on the territory of belarus, are told by the museum staff, who observe, e, the increased interest of people. i don't know if it could be. an initiative of teachers that brings children to the museum and some exhibitions. and the halls. maybe this is the interest of the children themselves, maybe here, but the influence is exerted by parents who in families talk about remembering their grandmothers there grandfathers, great-grandmothers, great-grandfathers, and , perhaps, a large number of military films that have recently appeared on the screen, but in a compartment it all comes together. it gives such a result when children are really interested in the events of the great patriotic

war, including those, er, tragic moments that took place on the territory of belarus during the years of occupation, another film. i would like to remember how you already mentioned the heroine of this film, the heroine in quotation marks, rather the thin machine gunner, the film is called the girl with the eyes of satan. such a very sinister name, let's see the video high-profile case 78 the executioner girl from ron matsom of the brigade was exactly. none other than a concert, germany, before others, only a machine gunner shot one and a half thousand people. line up 20 people and shoot high. she said. this is my work, they were looking for it throughout the soviet union, they found it in belorussky lepel, they took it at the workplace. she left the city with her head up after 35 years. she looked into the eyes of those whom she did not have time to kill, was not at

a distance. it can be said, the highest measure for the punisher in the soviet union punishment. a girl with the eyes of satan on the board of honor, she spoke to schoolchildren, as a war veteran taught children patriotism, an absolutely wild story. i think it's a wild story, you know, i , uh, even when i was working on a film. i didn’t even think that she taught children patriotism. and before that, she cleaned 1,500 people, the most terrible. and what was it like for the children of her children; she had children. yes, she had two daughters and a husband who lived with her for 33 years. here imagine there was a story,

that she cared for him in the hospital. he himself comes from the strip. his whole family , relatives, died in polotsk. ghetto. he is a jew with the surname ugu a and when, after the war , he could not return to his native place, because everything reminded of the tragedy , none of his relatives were home, but he returned closer to his homeland blindly. and brought to lepel and 33 years later. he learns the truth about her when his entire family died at the hands of the nazis. his wife is an accomplice of the nazis and the people with whom he, in fact, lived his whole life for 33 years. she already has daughters at this point, when she was arrested, she was married. wherein. she was sure that they would give her 3 years and let her go when we recorded the historians of the special services there. and by the way, this criminal case is still classified. she is kept in bryansk why in bryansk because she committed

a crime? uh, in bryansk, as a rule, punishers were convicted in the territory where these crimes were committed, and the only thing that we were allowed to remove the cover was to take some photos, so, uh, since the case until today, a huge number of speculations of inventions by the descendants of the machine gunner are classified. so, when they talked with people, they said that she was interrogating herself. she led absolutely calmly in the cell. she said, yes, they will give me more than a three-year-old. we don’t shoot women in the soviet union, especially in 78 years. it was the year of a woman in the soviet union, especially in the year of a woman in the soviet union she still doesn’t shoot. and she said she had plans. she had problems with her eyesight. she wanted to have an operation, as soon as she got out of there, moreover, when there was a court in bryansk. she, uh, demanded a hairdresser. that is, she wanted to look spectacular. at the trial, when she was arrested, she did not write a line, neither to her children, nor to her husband. that

is, for some time the husband walked up and down the thresholds and said that some kind of mistake had occurred. she is a veteran of the great patriotic war, this cannot be. but it turned out to be true. that's the correct name, after all, the girl with the eyes of satan. why are you the name and here i am, when i wrote down near bryansk e, hmm, the witnesses who saw that this grandmother, who was a fragment, she remembers her as a child, she remembers how she walked in these chrome boots, how she always walked with a whip in her skirt, and often drunk, although they say, this is also one of the myths. yes, she shot drunk nothing like that, that is, she served as a nazi of the nazis. this is strictly in order. she could then drink there, but she was shot, she always went sober. so they always said about her eyes, that she had some kind of terrible eyes. and not a single person told me about this in an interview. and that's why i somehow here by itself this

name of a film somehow was born spontaneously. well, it just sort of happened. now let's take a moment. let's break after a short pause. we will return to this studio again, while subscribe to our telegram channel. he say so and don’t be silent, and look for all our releases on the youtube channel in belarus 1. on the air again , the program say, don’t be silent, and our guest is elena bormatova, special correspondent of the tv news agency, belteli of the radio company. elena, you make materials on absolutely different topics, but i noticed that the military theme is somehow especially close to you. why? well, i don’t know, since school , the theme of the great patriotic war was very close to me. as a child, i loved to read books about the great patriotic war films. and now i like to watch war films, especially those related to the great patriotic war. well, probably, as in every belarusian family with us. eh, also its own history

of the war. i fought two grandfathers, one went missing in stalingrad, we still don’t know where he is buried, they were looking for his father the brothers did not find, then the older generation of my cousins, and we only found out in the 21st year, uh, well, how do we count the money of death, as in official documents, then you will be the day? but then, they didn’t know anything at all, but the second grandfather. i was here on the territory. belarus was a partisan fought in a fairly well-known partisan brigade defeat on the territory of the minsk region was a gunsmith. he created in the partisan detachment. his weapon is his armory workshop, and his weapon is stored in the museum great patriotic war, including, well , in the permanent exhibition. that is, we can come directly to see. yes chegrinov pyotr vladimirovich let's go to history. there is his

photography museum too. maybe, well, you are in the museum of the great patriotic war and in the chervinsky museum, the chervensky museum, because he himself comes from the shcherbinsky district and, uh, the formation of the defeat brigade also took place on the territory of the chervensky district. or well , you are so keenly interested in the history of the history of belarus hmm well, recent history, belarus , the war years are also recent history, belarus but nevertheless chose. you are journalism. why me? i can’t even say why you know that i had it, probably , at some such subconscious level, i told my parents that i would be a journalist, i don’t know yet, it’s good if i went to first grade, or maybe , even earlier, and offspring with different. eh, here are new people, but somehow it has an impact on you personally, maybe on your destiny in your life. well, i don’t know about the fate of life, but here, with regard to the same information, because a huge amount, and the fact that we did not know the so-called white spots of some moments, about which we did not

know, especially not what is already at school in adulthood. and as a rule, every film makes me hmm take on literature myself. that is not that i recorded interviews from watched interviews based on interviews of people. i wrote the text. not every movie. i buy some documentary fiction books. i have more information on the internet. i download some scientific papers for myself, because i have to myself. to delve into the topic, so that later it is understandable to tell this to the audience and my task is to choose the words in such a way that the viewer gets goosebumps when, for example, i call on some other topic there with my former hero or people who participated in the films. they say, oh, and we showed this film to schoolchildren at history lessons there or some other, i am pleased when people say thank you for the work done. well, it's worth a lot when you

realize that you didn't just do it, you had a task, you completed it and that's it. and when it's a job, when it's work finds, eh response from people, well, it's doubly pleasant. and there is a topic for which you will never take it, and whether there have already been such topics, well , i couldn’t say for sure. well, i don't know what will happen tomorrow, so but for now i don't know that it's impossible no. no, yes, ok, but on tv. you have been working for a long time as an old-timer of the beltele radio company in the good sense of the word. yes, there were firsts, regional news anchors, which is more interesting, work in the studio or work in the fields, work in the fields, first, you have something new happening every day, a you don't sit still. you are in minsk today, tomorrow you are in the gomel region, the day after tomorrow, you are in brest, there you are still in russia when the borders were opened before, you are anywhere in germany, you meet so many

people, mmm. well legends in a good way. yes, when a few years ago we did the brest fortress project, which was recently repeated, yes, the heroes of the outpost, because it was conceived on a larger scale. we wanted to tell about the heroes defending the brest fortress in a personalized way to tell about everyone. but we are talking about the defenders of the brest fortress there. we remember what major gavrilov yes, and some other people, but we wanted famous people who are not well-known to tell their lives, but the pandemic interfered with our plans, but thank god that we managed to record at least five episodes. yes , when we were filming the film, it was gone - three defenders of the brest fortress were alive today, not a single one. we recorded an interview with kotelnikov, and we recorded an interview with her son, and samvel was ivosyan's mother. if not for this job, when would you meet these people kotelnikov is the same boy from , more precisely, the prototype in the boy from the movie

brest fortress. yes, yes, tell me, in your work, uh, it’s more convenient, it’s more interesting, it’s better to work in a team or you are a lone wolf . it is always team work on the project, except for me, because there are cameramen and directors and assistant directors who help the same coordinating ones. a huge number of people are involved in this it's not that it's not just that it's not and not only the project of elena bormatova. by the way, i never uhm stick out my name. i don't single myself out. i never say that a documentary film by elena bormotova i always take a bath, he creates her documentary film by the tv news agency, because it is teamwork in the final . well , of course, every person dreams of being on vacation.

here. by the way, on the third of july we work out independence day is a very busy day for television people, especially for information people, and even from the fourth of july. i'm leaving. this is where you will rest this time, well, i'll fly to the sea to the sea. this is good. we just when the universe met before the record. i say, well, elena, you, as always, are solovki, in fact, she has relatives there in karelia. she was there often and often spends there. let it combine nicely. again same with useful makes. e films for the til-news agency. len was very glad to see you. thank you very much for inviting him to you at work. to do this, you really need to have a good rest, so that with renewed vigor again in our television fight. and our program is also leaving. here on vacation, so we are tatyana shcherbina svetlana smolonskaya, we tell you goodbye. goodbye. and now elena bormatova is speaking. well, i want to wish all the inhabitants of belarus not only

a clear sky over their heads, but a peaceful , calm every day and of course. i congratulate everyone on independence day, this is actually a holy holiday for every belarusian. the discovery, without which the world today it is difficult

to imagine today they are in every store. in scientific laboratories and, of course , in our homes, the accuracy of measuring the most innovative is up to one thousandth. and once, if you believe the legends, they were used to weigh the hearts of the dead, an invention of mankind, which greatly simplifies our lives. now there is a smart scale at home and the software automatically calculated not only the local body mass index and e, the amount of adipose tissue in order to reveal the secret of youth and health, the chinese emperor wu diwa in the second century bc turned to magicians, and the most important of the world of science in the science project is nearby, no matter how skeptical we are about this. but it is believed that e in children prone to photoaging e and their physiological age. e, from external e differs by 20 years.

the first sign of this photoaging, which is associated with genetic defects , is hyperpigmentation, watch belarus 24 tv channel . a new tragedy cannot be allowed alexander lukashenko once again calls for peace and cooperation seliversia solemn meeting in honor of independence day tonight