only there were pillows for the bride to get married, and so that there were six travel pillows. vui to belarus 24 what is documentary for you documentary? for me, this is my life, because everything i do on television has been for 40+ years. it's all documentary. this is my life. it's nothing else i have.

today my guest is a very unusual difficult guest, he is my colleague. and as usual , interviewing your own is much more difficult, and that’s all, because they know the process from the inside , correct it here, mount it, cut it out. so, that i myself am already interested in what will come out of our conversation today. today i have a guest, a tv journalist, a leading documentary film director, sergey katyer sergey hello, and sergey let's start from afar, you worked at a motorbike plant. then they suddenly decided to apply to the rich and to the director's department, or it was n't all of a sudden for you. well, yes, unexpected turn, so to speak, dug far. do you know when i applied for a television director? and the seventy-ninth year, it seemed to me that this by chance i was not going to enter, uh, in

minsk, i was going to enter vgik in moscow and worked at a factory, and in principle, i still doubted. do i need this directing? and i decided to just give it a try. i’m thinking of testing myself, well, if i enter, i probably won’t study, then i have the right to enter the university, if i don’t enter, maybe not vovdik, i don’t have to do that if i don’t enter here already. well, how did it happen that i entered and viktor grigoryevich karpilov said that he gives me 2 months to think about it so that i decide i will study it or not, and he, of course, so to speak, reproached me for taking away someone's place from someone who wanted to enter. and i mean, like, but i arranged samples here for myself. well, i

felt ashamed. i decided i would study, but in fact, of course, to the director. i had a long distance relationship. i always dreamed of being in the military. i graduated from the polytechnic institute, and, as it were, i saw it. yes, in production and directing, as if very, very indirectly somehow treated. although he played in the people's theater, he played in the theater of student miniatures. uh, a terrible amateur photographer would take pictures all the time, then there was a film amateur. i had a 16 mm camera in krasnogorsk. and i filmed everything. i mounted. in general, in short, there were some prerequisites today, i understand that fate still led me to this, therefore , by chance, probably, a pattern. still, it probably was. uh. here is a radical change

in your life, which is already there and the family and children work. this is an incredible way out of your comfort zone, which was the most difficult for you at that time. this was the hardest part to explain. my relatives who have nothing to do with creativity and krizhura and television have nothing to do. explain to them. how dare i do this, because everything at my factory was good, i was promoted. in general, in short, i was ashamed in front of my relatives, whom they didn’t understand all of my military men either, why did i suddenly make such a zigzag, and in the family somehow my wife reacted to this easier. we already had two small children. she said, well, you

decide, that is, she did not say yes, nor did she tell you to decide. how did you introduce yourself financial questions. i didn't lose anything. and i even bought it, i'll tell you more, because the participant is in the daytime department of the theater art institute. at the same time, i worked as a janitor in the pool as a watchman in the pool as a firefighter at the theatrical art institute on the educational stage. and in the summer, construction teams still traveled, and i got more money than probably five years, which money i received on television, when i arrived, i worked there, and i suffered so much from this that they pay so little on television. and that i no longer have time work as a janitor. soon, and anyway, i worked and still already, working on television, as a director. ah, i still managed

out of habit. that's why the desire to earn extra money. i also worked as a night watchman at school and enjoyed it immensely. from this e, you came into directing as an adult in an emerging person. but they say that documentary films should start shooting after thirty. what do you think, well, i generally think that you need to come to directing later. well, because well, how will you share your life experience, how will you you will communicate with people older than you in age, and most often it happens, therefore well, of course, some experience is needed before, and the driver should have already worked. uh, you had to have a seniority. today, probably, it is not so actual. it is a school of life. i don't think she bothered me. you started your tv career in the film programming department,

and that was. yes? and it was your conscious choice. you wanted to learn from the masters how to create a movie meeting, with whom from subway, and influenced you the most. well, in directing, probably, with no one, to be honest, because i really wanted to create a movie. i wanted to enter vgik. and i thought that maybe i’ll have my dream too, when i get a taste of the profession, when i finish directing television, when i work. when i visit the film sets of our masters, i see how it's all done. i will probably try to fulfill my dream and go to directing in august for directing. feature films hmm well, over time, i realized that no watchfulness. it doesn't solve this question of your skill as a director. all this comes with practice and experience. it is

necessary to do something to shoot only then. you can probably feel. eh, are you ready for this profession? in general , i understood more that how much you gentlemen have laid down here is your talent in your abilities , it is very difficult to jump above this. yes, it is probably possible, but it will entail some huge physical or psychological costs . many people break down in this profession. trying to approach the masters without having, maybe that natural talent that, well, should be mortgaged. i hmm realized that i'm probably not ready, but inside i still have it, as it were, and i, as you know, a little boy, still thinks. i’ll probably still shoot my own movie, i’ll probably shoot it, that is, it’s the desire to make a feature

film. well, every documentary filmmaker has a desire to remove toys, but i'm sure. these active people live in the belarusian woodlands and develop their native land. the bulk of the people. now he lives in cities where from the window, except asphalt and fraud. i can not see anything. i didn’t really want to create an image of an ideal village. there is everything rustic and also modern conditions for living. lives they have what the feet were striving for? fuh all

fishing was a success. and we also have peacocks , which lowers a very beautiful tail, and we cry feathers to the bones for memory , the secret is that the heroes are not looking for a better life, but create it on their own. you can say about me where i was born there and came in handy and not a drop. i'm not better off big cities my place my little motherland is the sweetest thing in the world for me on belarus 24 tv channel . you have been working on television for over 40 years

and during this time you have shot more than 30. eh, films, documentaries. yes, a documentary one and a half, thousand or 1.600. i considered the program for each director is very important feedback. that is feedback. that's how you understand that the film turned out to be a success when you shoot a movie and then go to the festival with this film, and almost all of my films. yes, there was almost no film that would not be taken to the festival. and when you go to the festival at and in the hall they sit. uh, people who watch your movie. and do you see how they react, how they cry? fuck well, how do they react to places that you like, that's what you know, that's feedback, which is very expensive for any director. in one of your interviews with e, you said that any movie is always made for the

sake of something. what are you filming in order to understand me interestingly. i never shoot about what i'm not interested in this time. secondly, of course, but i expect that it will be interesting to the viewer. this is two. thirdly, i think that it is necessary for our tv channel, belarus 3, because everything i shoot is on our tv channel and we discuss these topics and believe that they are needed. this is four. well, why else do i shoot in order not to lose my qualifications, because you know one thing when you have been doing well for many years. there, the program is a stable format, some things have already been worked out. it's a little bit different from what dulls it there or a little bit uninteresting. no i'm wondering, anyway, because every new character is a whole planet and the movie gives you the opportunity a little bit, so

to speak . hmm. think about the form, but every movie requires its own form. eh, sometimes. this is a very painful process sometimes. they will regret that they took up the cinema there, because i can no longer think about the program. i constantly have these thoughts in my head how to make how to do it is not banal, how to make it interesting and natural. well it takes nerves and time, which is very little, to be honest, here, but on the other hand , uh, these are festivals, and this festival made a successful one out of cinema. i said that almost all of my films go to the festival, and festivals are a meeting with colleagues. you are watching other people's films. you are fueled again both in the profession and as a person, it's interesting, has it ever happened, so that life circumstances completely

changed your original idea for the film? every film always changes towards the end, because in a documentary you can't it is impossible to write a rigid script into this script to drive your hero the way you want, the way you came up with, the way you would like it to be impossible and, of course, very often there are things that you don’t depend on, and this is very beautiful here in a documentary movies, as opposed to games, the beauty is that you never know. hmm. the end result. it's like a minefield. you see , here you go and you don’t know, that’s where you, uh, will lose. and where will you find it? where is this hmm the right move, and of course, most often

it turns out not what you want, and well, this good if it's good. and if, of course, it all collapses. and then you get out, then you get out, so that it still turns out well. you shoot a lot about creative people, and artists, cameramen, actors, directors. and what attracts you in the topic of creativity and, uh, what do you want to understand, but when shooting such a movie, first of all, i want to understand myself. i said that when i started working, uh, and i even took my interviews for programs with heroes, and which ones i filmed were. here are the directors, screenwriters, prodyury actors, i was always looking for an answer to my questions. how to make a good movie how? well, in the hope that i will make films myself, but

then you know, i'm watching my old programs. for example, i understood very well that through these heroes , first of all , i was again looking for questions on my everyday topics, on my life problems; the questions that he asked, it was clear that genius often worries me at that moment neighbors. uh, with some kind of internal breakdown of the disappointment of a personal drama. what do you think? is this the inevitable price of talent, or can it be avoided if desired? it's hard for me to judge. is it possible to escape and i don’t consider myself, you know, such a talented person who constantly feels

depression, there is no satisfaction, and so on and so forth. probably, in great artists, there are probably such moments of crisis, uh, that require. well, the intervention, even, probably, of doctors, but how good or bad it is, but to me it seems that in creativity we always work a little on the edge, but this does not apply to me. i can honestly say that, for example, i feel very well that critical point, through which it is better for me not to cross. although maybe if i had stepped over it, maybe i would have done something more interesting, more masterpiece. well, i have some kind of internal brakes. i understand that if i continue to move in this direction, then yes, perhaps some

psychological problems. and i also want to live , i also want to work and i don’t want to get to hospital room like my friend who made a feature movie. did you have to? in life, to choose between a profession and personal life and whether it is possible to maintain a balance. yes , to be honest, i have a personal life, i worry because. it seems to me that my work is more important than my personal life, unfortunately. i can't imagine myself without work. i give a lot of time to work, i probably give little time to my family. not probably, but definitely, i practically did not engage in the upbringing of my children. uh, thank god i have a wife. she

is said to be a very good housewife and mother, therefore, the main burden fell on her. i am in this regard, probably, and the gaist is more interesting to me. it is not interesting to work to shoot being outside the home. i don't know what to do. and what should i do, so i don't know how to rest. i don't know how to spend time with my family. i'm home that's why i run to work if i could change anything in my life. here's what you need to change. i thought about this question quite recently. the fact is that as a person who believes, as a person who knows that

fate is leading me through life, to be honest, i don’t murmur at fate. and, uh, considering that by and large there would be no need to change anything, because you don’t know what consequences this may lead to in the future for you and your loved ones. it always seems to us that now, if we were there sometime, it would be better then only the lord knows what would be better, and so that he only knows, and what fate is prepared for us. and what awaits us ahead, but i still think that if it were possible to change something, i would of course we would, of course, not have had an abortion. well, when could

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mind hangs with a project on pervy tulovina on belarus 204 tv channel. sergey , you not only shoot, but also evaluate other works. i mean the work on the fall leaves. are you currently browsing and selection of feature films for the festival. here. has your approach to judging films changed? uh

, in recent years and is it difficult to be objective? yes, yes, it is very difficult to be objective, it is very difficult to be subjective. you know, when i agreed to this position, we will talk. so, to be honest, i thought it was very simple, because according to the rules of our festival. we take into the competition films that have already been awarded at other festivals and have already received the main awards and it seemed. this is something easier. uh, walked through the festival now on the internet. all it is. uh, information, i agreed with the author to take the films and you can not even

watch them. i know that the jury can be very strange in their choice. sometimes even inadequate, because the mass of all kinds. uh, there undercurrents exist. everyone lobbies their interests there, their authors sometimes, this is not a movie that is personal. in my opinion, it is the best. and when i encountered this, then, of course, i had this operation, that you can’t just trust someone else’s opinion, you must. who do you like? because you are responsible for this program. there is such an expression festival cinema and most cases of documentary films, just the same we are, it rarely

appears on television screens. why do you think it is so well, because documentaries are, as it were, a priori for today. and it was a special genre. cinema, you understand, today these boundaries are a little bit, they have leveled off a little, but because documentary cinema has become more television and this is a big problem for artists who make real documentaries, because that there is no place to show rentals, except as a festival, and who will pay for your experiments in the field of documentary films, because documentary films are art, this is art. the art of cinema, and television cinema is a spectator cinema. and since today you can watch a movie only on television,

basically television buys television is a customer, then the directors are put in this framework. well, how to call a producer film, or something, when they are required to have a spectator film, and this already has a distant relation to art, and then still documentary films. it has always been very problematic, it was a conflict movie, but it was extraordinary unusual. it raised sharp topics, and today, unfortunately, is such a time that you know, everyone is already blowing milk. what are hot topics? what problematic films do people need to calm down and show that everything is fine with us. and if it is not good, then you will understand well, and therefore, of course, there is a problem. there are problems with documentaries with real honest art documentaries. movie. now

mobile films are being actively filmed. e, do you think you can make a good documentary on a mobile phone , you can use anything on a camera on a mobile phone, and as much as i have already seen, even we had , uh, the festival, in my opinion, was a smartphone that the guys just filmed, i i was a member of the jury of this festival, and i saw feature works, filmed on a motorcycle . no, no specifics. the most important thing is the idea. just before the quality was not very good today some. they shoot, uh, better than our stationary cameras. what will your next picture be about? about the next picture? i don't want to talk because it's a secret. yes, and

i have, as it were, another application for the film. i think it will be a very interesting work, but i don't want to be intercepted, but do you have any creative plans, by the way? yes , you know, i have a lot of creative plans. i write them out for myself every year , you know, here , here, here, here, here's what i would like to do, what i 'm interested in, what i want to have time to do not frustrating that there is not enough time for everything out of strength. our program is called the meaning of life for you. what is a sense of life? you know, this is such a philosophical question that the great minds of mankind cannot answer? and therefore, you know , i don’t want to be banal to say that the meaning of life is in procreation, which is important, of course, that

the meaning of life is in life itself. i want to say again that i believe that every person has his own destiny. there is a path in this life. i'm sure i feel it more and more with age. they didn't want i would like to pass this road to the end with dignity. and at the end i felt it. calmness and inner harmony thank you very much it was the meaning of life sergey gatiyar.