alexander mikhailovich admit, what is your biggest dream, your biggest dream. to see your children and grandchildren alive and well, well, wait for your great-grandchildren my guest is called an enthusiastic hero, and also an eccentric who devotes all his time to his beloved museum and serving his beloved cause. today my guest is the director of the historical and cultural complex stalin's line alexander metla alexander mikhailovich hello alexander mikhailovich you were born 7 years after the end of the great patriotic war and i remember that then everything

the boys dreamed of becoming a military man, you were no exception. yes, of course not an exception. and vice versa, when all the relatives gathered. they always remembered the war and competitions and always said, and we envy the boys, how did they fight us from the war? no , we won’t fight e, we won’t accomplish feats, we won’t accomplish zeus and such a childish naivety and dream, but it continued and was called up for military service. and after and from the service he already entered a higher military-political school. so i became a regular military man. now colonel supplies, why do you think the generations of the fifties have such a special attitude towards the memory of the war? i would even say especially acute, but this, of course, is a process, because we lived among those who fought those who went through these

years of those who were in the occupation of those who and what did you know, uh, were interested in their stories although they were very stingy , they probably tell now, uh, it was very difficult to remember something, to learn something then ai fought, well, everything was there and so on there like that. how much they were going, small the big company is the first that if only there was no war, if only to mention those who died, who fought, who are not there today, but the memory. that's it about those people she cut. for the rest of his life , the time remaining from today is responsible for the fact that then there were eyewitnesses and participants in those events, the whole family practically e, suffered from the war. as a matter of fact, in the year 1942, a grandfather was shot,

whom we did not see so much and did not know for his connection with the partisans. but all the uncles in my mother fought and, uh, brother, my own uncle. misha disabled returned to the balaton. well, my mother was torn off to swim and told how a girl lived, though also a child. but in general , all the horrors are all these fears. uh, in fact, they didn’t get their memories, they crashed for life, but we each perceived it in our own way. everyone analyzed it in their own way, thinking, now, if i were there, i would take a gun and shoot everyone. germans you fought in afghanistan uh now about this war there are a lot of conflicting opinions, and then it was simply called the fulfillment of international duty. here now after the passage of time. eh, how do you

perceive these events to interpret these events, and today there are millions of interpretations. and in fact, in discord, some admire others. eh, they say something didn't need a third. all of us, as officers, as soldiers, cannot answer this question. we carried out the order of the motherland, we were ordered. we carried out a combat mission, because there is no other way for the army to exist. this does not obey orders, and we took an oath, that is, we adopted a military policy, where we swore an oath that we would fulfill with dignity honor. maybe we owe it. and here's how the war in afghanistan began , everything began very simply flew over kabul. they took me to the column, uh, which was coming from the battlefields and the ugardess was going. this is more than 100 somewhere around 140 km to the place of deployment, and i

immediately saw all the charm of the military. hmm. as they say, the roads of military life. the first battle remember remember why they are all, as they say in memory, the most important thing in the war, like on all sides is not confused. as a matter of fact, do not get lost, there is starvation, this because you have to make decisions. sometimes he remembers this when you ride on the eve of the battle. here, after all, we are not there , but the front line was standing and, uh , you know, here, if you mean here. if he went beyond the front line, it means that it’s already calm there, and at any moment we could fly by and, as they say, a bullet shell and , in fact, even when it’s calm, and when we go to combat, when you’re waiting, where

the catch is, from anywhere actually and ambush and others. moreover, they did not drag the afghans, the battles are protracted or they are somehow hit the colony. wait, it's time to get in the car. and several soldiers were killed. there, all the ditches were dug by themselves, then it’s a shame when comrades died, when their soldiers died, especially this young one. well, when with you that's just went literally from their absence, and many films were shot in afghanistan, and most of them. e perceive the war precisely by artistic pictures, in your opinion. eh, art cinema truthfully reflects on the reality of those events, you know, artistically is artistically. uh, if you shoot just uh, like this without artistic some sort of idea. uh, just concentrate. eh, it won't be a movie. it

will just be. well, some report. yes, so what? well, because, uh, cinema everything is as they say, and truth and fiction are now mixed, but it is still a war. it's still somewhere. eh, maybe it wasn’t all this with this hero, but he is credited with saying that, exactly, he went through everything there. or, let’s say, because a feature film is a feature film. do you yourself like films about afghanistan, for example, he was genna's brotherhood the ninth company of fyodor bondarchuk and what about them can you tell me love the movie about afghanistan of course, it reminds you of it was e and of course they all like what you didn't say before, whether it's true or not. uh, maybe not all, really. maybe not everything was like that, but the essence is the same people fought perished. e,

defended, as they say czech dignity. eh, therefore condemn for it. well, that's just stupid, i think so, yes, i see. what is the creepiest memory of a ram? well, i want to tell you the most terrible thing is when all the same the death of comrades. uh, 'cause it's uh, it stays for life, and because it’s just like we ’re talking to you, then a friend. here after some time. there, after an hour or two , this man was gone, the soldier was carrying him, to which he was one and a half meters long in one hand. so what's left of him. and this, of course, e will never be forgotten. your

rationalization proposals are legendary. what kind of miraculous weapon did you invent during the war in afghanistan in afghanistan i just noticed that in the same place we are beaten by uh dushmans, then all the time they are not just there, as they say, tied up and everyone was slaughtered. that would be his security, let's say, the sergeant commands security with him. there are five six soldiers, they killed the sergeant. there two people set fire to the car and sufficient counts. this is the column, went. uh, 2-3 cars or a fuel truck or with ammunition and removed a couple of the riverbed in the same place. i say, let's put the mortars, as we put the mortar everywhere it is mined, so that while you put it, turn around. i say, let's put it on my car for honey. let me tell you. come on, well, i went and did took a mortar. with

vasilyok removed it from e from his standard machine, put it on the machine from zu-23, it turned out 360 °, uh, it spins at any moment. you can point at any point at any moment. as a matter of fact, uh, especially since he is a cluster-loader, that is, he collected all the mines. uh, i installed the battery. just as it was on duty, we went to the battlefield, and when the ussr began to beat us, we hit from this mortar. so a joke once the guys called nekla. well, i didn't take offense. after returning from afghanistan , it was difficult to integrate into ordinary life. here you you understand that this is a completely different slightly different life and what you did it will not. eh , people don’t understand, it seems, but there’s something you think about it. i want to say that, uh, a military man, when you are at war, you

make a decision there, you are liberated. you are also responsible for the main thing, it is like fewer losses and how to give more results. uh, it also works, but moderate time. this is already, uh, a fear-mongering everywhere of something that seems superfluous and it was very difficult for the afghans. i know many experts who, well, after afghanistan left the troops. and you i had to go through, uh, ptsd . uh, personally, i didn't have to go through anything. the only thing i survived was two shell shocks. this is the most moderate. uh, i had a failed legal kidney, and for four days, i was completely unconscious , i returned from the afghan war especially, and we did not trump anywhere. this is the same me until 2002, in fact, i did not specifically announce myself. and when in

2002 he created a fund, memory, the spirit was opened. yes, you fought. and what are you, well, there was no syndrome from there. well, there was a memory and this desire to somehow support their e pokrotim. i know that you support your former colleagues. we continue to work and help. what can we do, here are the requests that are addressed to you most often - these are different requests , different requests. now we've got it set up. one afghan, who had a very difficult fate, how he fought, uh, i won’t pass him in afghanistan, i won’t have awards, but a moderate life didn’t work out and uh was convicted and lost when he returned home and there was nowhere to live, in fact. eh, the man lived like a dugout. and so we tensed up and asked the ryspolkom, uh,

berezinsky district, and he allocated a house. e, with house rental. we will check the order furnished. well, the man is alive now. this is what we do, to whom they gave a walk -behind tractor to someone, they solved the issue simply with medicines. such an ordinary job, because what is drawn it helps. what we can, of course, is not unlimited, and maybe not for everyone. sometimes people even get offended and think that they helped one. and why do they help me and think that you are kind of like? eh? do you owe social security? you have some kind of financial resources, and the funds are those that we, as you asked, or, well, they donated to us donations, and as a donation - it's spending. we account for every penny of these donations. that is, if we received

money, we read for every penny and where it was spent. we tell everything about the sports life of the country, two world cup medals were brought by belarusians from baku, firstly, a high level, when you play there, you get just invaluable experience, therefore, when you join the national team, you are already a little so seasoned, you can say , hardened review and the most interesting events. we participated in colorful run. in fact. it's wonderful, when we started to start , the paints opened, that is, everything together. we are all so beautiful all the happy opinions of the competent experts in the cube. now, uh, we need it in order to wedge in, let's say, the qualification system, we are going to show that the belarusian men's basketball.

we have it, we have our own face, and we will deal with it and not only watch it in sports projects on the belarus 24 tv channel. we declare a hunt for new impressions. today my route is built by the edge of red gold this is how the german region is called strawberries, and the agrotown palace is considered the capital of this summer berry. together we will visit one of the most mysterious temples . this building has never been rebuilt. let's try to unravel the secret of unusual strawberry jam. i was so advertised for your jam that i can't wait to try it. we are not limited to one spoon. let's do it, let's, let's visit the only apple vinegar factory in the republic

, because our republic is an apple country everything that was useful in apples remains in vinegar. as you understand, see in the program the route was built on the tv channel belarus 24. you have two military formations. and they would have graduated from the cultural enlightenment school. it must be admitted that it is an unusual combination. you already then assumed that you would create a museum . this is after the army, and military military schools are also, uh, cultural and educational work. actually, uh, i was engaged in this higher military education. uh, the cult against the worker was cooking, but uh museum. i never dreamed. he appeared

clean. as they say, well, by accident. but it is interesting how the idea of ​​​​the complex appeared, the stalin line opened. um, that museum invited us to support its opening. well, this one was supported only by the record already there. shooting with the germans with everyone, well , the design became interested. well, such a mini, uh, head of state something like that, what kind of shooting, what of what? well, yes, they made a fuss, but i had to explain that we were on the stalin line, which line, where stalin is this line, which existed on the korean isthmus to the black sea, and there was no line on the territory. uh, well, the second molotov line that they began to build and unfinished, but suffered the same fate that i, of course

, the stalin line if, uh, the germans stopped on it, composed songs and sang poems in mind that's a tragedy. it was forgotten, forgotten from those who defended, we proposed to do this, to recreate the line of defense, at least a small area, as the defense was built. she took one plot. it's not even the best, but one had merit. what's what's the driveway the path was the road. uh on molodechennaya passed right through this area. well, what happened, what happened today. this is already a brand of belarus and recognizable people go there from not only belarus but also from near and far abroad. and it's true that in your office e hangs behind us, on which it is written, if not you, then who else , if not you, then who is the motto, i have already

been asked, this, maybe with the paratrooper right there nobody but us and so further. well, like, when we got together, uh with the guys, well, we need some kind of motto. here. eh, what, well it was the proposal was even then here is such a capacious one that everyone under or kissed, but if you don’t want, you don’t want, but for me it ’s a motto that if you can do something, and for sure not everyone understands your enthusiasm and not everyone supports . how does your family feel about the fact that you are constantly at work, my family reacts positively. they have all support. my wife, my sons, grandchildren, they live this life, they also understand that the grandfather is doing something useful, and therefore they have no particular claims, and the youngest granddaughter

always reconstructions, if not tarka or a cavalrywoman, they are sons, uh, i have a support especially. here sasha took over everything, when you ask how we do reconstruction. many ask a question. and who is the director of this and in the reconstruction and who is the director, and who is uh, there it’s all rolled into one and the screenwriter and director-producer son. uh, the last time before that, i was alexander mikhailovich. but such a hmm uh, the devotee herself gave back. she certainly can not do without fat. what sacrifices do you have to make for the cause. well, i i want to say big sacrifices. no, uh , thank god, we always uh, we have one thought in all these reconstruction problems. uh, first of all, compliance with security measures, because everything is so beautifully understandable, but it is

fraught with great difficulties, and to say that we are sacrificing something there. we just do our job quietly, like someone does not like. this is in another question. although to say that it also did not go unnoticed. anyway, it's been awarded. uh, with two orders, this is already in peacetime. and this is a premium weapon. i mean, uh, bills, also appreciated. i am grateful to the head of state for that support, because without him we would not have raised the stalin line complex . you have everything exactly the opposite. tell us what rules you have we conceived it this way, because it's not a moral museum. we understand what

khatyn is, what the brest fortress is, and we have such a mound of glory. i mean, it's educational er, learn the history of creation. uh, get acquainted with the weapons of technology. uh, relax just sit and as they say. uh, every time the family comes. each of us sees the interest in it. uh, and we are pleased that the technical school can ride on equipment , you can shoot at least with their blank cartridges, but a person wants to feel the return of signing this roar of battle. i know that you are constantly replenishing the museum fleet with various retro cars. and each exhibit has its own story. hmm. what is the most interesting and entertaining story? well, i want to tell you, uh, any technique that no longer exists, in fact, the real

conditions of restoration, restored or restored, are, well, the property of history. we have, for example, there t7, in the thirty-fifth year of release he fought longer at the withers and forty-first they drowned the crime in the swamp so that it didn’t get it anyway the guys got it restored, and now he was on the move a participant in several pleased, you saw and earmuffs on wheels . these are wheeled-duck tanks; there are no such tanks anymore. actually. now the t-50 tank has been restored. this is the same rare there, as there were only about a hundred of them released today, when the reconstruction is underway. we have up to 15 units of various vehicles on the field.

and what did we start, god forbid, to release some kind of improvised tank e t-6 and most importantly, that the germans should portray the best-76 as much as we could, and today we have enough about 20 units, only retro e armored vehicles, which the last tank t-26 you can get out and famous and on the move . well , there is a memory. eh, this one. alexander mihajlovich your museum has competitors, although, speaking of historical memory, is it even possible to talk about such concepts as business profit competition. you know that i don't consider anyone a competitor at all. if a person wants to do it there, uh, somewhere. well, there are,

we already have cases when they restored it there, uh , sanka's. that's it and so on. i take this positively. uh, people just want it. let them do it. it will still respond favorably, someone will look there, someone will look at us, we are all ours, well, some there are analogues of the stalin line. well, there are no such uh, in principle, there are no such complexes. uh, the fact that a park was made there near moscow. this is the same thing, but it is completely different - this is state money. uh, of course, this was done on a grand scale and with a different goal by the patriots , i mean, well, we don’t consider anyone to be competitors. we do our thing. uh, if someone can do better, let them do it, we 'll just be happy for them. uh, until

recently, the topic of war for the modern generation was something very far from the category of pages from a history textbook, but the situation in the world dictates its own terms according to your observations. has the interest of young people in military history changed now? well, not much, but they are starting to talk about it a little, and this is already good, because, of course, to educate pacifists. uh, it's easier than raising exactly the defender of his defender, who is able to go ready to take up arms and defend, er, his own family. yes, the village of the mountain, in the end you are the motherland, this is the essence of protection. and this should be a marginal one for every stone in the entire work. here is a military-patriotic one, because no one is calling. well, we have to kill there. we must go to war. we do not want

to fight, we despise war, but if it happens, we must each give an account to ourselves that we will have to fight. alexander mikhailovich program is called the meaning of life for you, what is the meaning of life? it is to live something useful, but because there is some other goal, uh, so that you are not ashamed of the years you have lived. this is what you did for what e in front of you first of all with your family comrades of those who you know these because in this is probably what makes sense to me. i don't know of another great goal in space is not going to. uh live on earth live try to live right help others. well,

thank you very much. thank you for inviting. this was the meaning of alexander's life broom. now it's a priority. plastic

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