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. artyom good evening good evening, perhaps our regular viewers expected to see prigogine here. well, we saw an equally interesting person of artem shenin. moreover, we are all a little similar. well, yes, i have a close image, but as they say, time will tell on your program, but for now i would like to rewind the time a bit to find out for myself and tell the viewer a little about you, and we hear about your positions regularly, but very important to show. why are you eligible to say what you say, and why you can and should be heard by a boy who was fond of diplomacy. this is a fact, after he went to war is also a fact. let's start a little pompously.

this is how the steel was tempered. and do you understand what's the matter? and i understand your paphos, it is appropriate, but given that the boy was born in the sixty- sixth year. that is, respectively, books on the history of diplomacy. i'm not that studied diplomacy. it's just that my grandfather used to be a diplomat before the war. i had five such volumes in the history of diplomacy at home, and i started reading it at the age of 10. i was just wondering what, in general, was largely reflected in my perception, here are the ethical problems, in general, how the world works and so on and so forth, because when you start there with fi in a village in egypt and basically, here you can see that plus or minus is always the same. and i began to read these books. i was a soviet boy and then steel. she, in principle, all more or less so tempered. that is, it is not my steel. so tempered. it was like that then plus or minus country. general steel,

tempering. history it was komsomol it was sport it was with an international panorama with alexander boivin. an informant of the secretary class is firing there. uh, that means, e komsomol organization, and so on and so forth, here , too, in this sense, my steel was not particularly tempered. and just like that, the time was so unwashed. it was such a time in which each e, in kum was e, let's say, in whom there was a space where this time could reach e enter and give its results. it gave these results, that is, it is clear that there were different people at the time. but then if if you are more or less qualified to temper in all this. as a matter of fact, you are part of this generally accepted hardening. you can go play sports.

there you can, so i started jumping with a parachute before the army, please, here's dosaaf here's driving for you. here's the sports section for you. there you are, at the age of 13 i went to the palace of a pioneer on the lenin hills, and began to study japanese without japanese, i don’t have an answer to this question, because well, here because there was a list i don't know of forty languages. well, that is, you understand, a boy from a poor family who just comes there so that i want to go there, i chose georgian japanese there first. e, georgian, i had enough for two classes there, because i did not find a response word for myself, i could, probably, learned, of course i could. is it there and everything that is needed for life? yes, but the japanese somehow caught on, that is, in the same way, the film in the zone of special attention. it's not like some one, so i pulled it out somewhere, and he knows me there, this is what pierced to the depths of the soul, he pierced to the depths of the soul, approximately there are a few more million. boys, because there was such a film,

because such films were made, because they knew why they were being filmed, and so on and so forth , and all these building blocks. eh, this is how they stack up. and if you have somewhere inside your ancestors there, well, in my case , there, grandfather and mother have the right cement from these bricks and you will add up, this is already played in the theater. i played in the theatre. e, in school since the sixth grade. we had school plays, you know? this is again from the same series, i began to play in the theater, because i was lucky with the class teacher. you know, school then. she taught him and raised him. they provided educational services. we had a class teacher. no, leave the teacher of russian language or literature. we had a great time on the history that created the theater school floor school theater. well, from the class, how familiar is this? well, what is the difference between us and you, how much we are, approximately we are with you about the same thing here. i played in the foundry shop in russian people. well

, let's list the bricks again yes, japanese hand-to-hand combat. come on , diplomacy, which you liked, you studied books on the history of the history of diplomacy. yes, and you come to the military registration and enlistment office, and ask to go to war. i didn't ask for a war. i wanted to go to war, because when i came to the recruiting office. the first time attributed to it was 83 years. she has been walking for 4 years, well, relatively speaking, three years, the spring of 83 was. uh, i originally wanted airborne troops in the airborne forces base. well, for obvious reasons in the zone of special attention. it's all there. here. i wanted the airborne forces and since you want the airborne forces and you want to be a paratrooper and there is a war in which you know that the airborne forces are fighting there, it is clear that if you go to the airborne forces, then you want , uh, well, to the war not because to the war and you were ready for this to happen. i wanted i wanted and uh, i didn't need anything for it. i did it because i was assigned

when i was assigned to the team, 209 b, and then when i returned, i knew that 209b is airborne forces afghanistan, that is, my fate, it seems to take me there what is called. well, that is, i wanted to and they told me, well, the guy looks like, he really wants and, probably, he is ready for everything fergana, fergana, on the very first day. uh, distributing by company, we were told the sixth company, the sixth company. well, congratulations. after 3 months, everything is going where it is going to afghanistan. happened with this. yes, this is the city where i served , my unit 56 brigade, so i’m not what i wanted, i kind of understood what i needed, well, you wrote her a book, not invented by afghan i hope, yes, i wrote a book, not invented afghan and an audio play, almost 20 years after demobilization. uh, hmm prompted. well, not what prompted me. hmm, a certain motivating factor was

what came out in 2005, in my opinion, the ninth company, which i did not really like. but uh, since i started to reflect , therefore, like many afghans, discuss what they like, what they don’t like, and the big role played by the ninth company is that it returned this topic to society. we did not reflect on the afghan war before. yes, that is, it ended in february 89, bashful people began to hush it up, we first started doing it. at first we began to shyly hush it up, because they imposed on us the alien course in 1980 around the sixth and seventh year, then in the eighty-ninth. it ended, and then in the ninety-first everything turned upside down. so we were simply not up to the reflection of the afghan war, and all these reflections of ours were experienced by someone, personally by someone in the companies . we all postponed them. i have everything that i wrote in 2005. do you know how documents printer and printed, that is, they are, but not yet printed. and when i sat down to write, based on all these discussions that had begun, the ninth company there about something or other

, i just sat down and wrote. that's why not invented afghan i just sat down and wrote what i had in my head for a long time, i wrote there. it's literally there in 2-3 months. just at night, as if it had already been everything. well, look here. i already find a lot of parallels, however, between us we will return to the war for sure in a conversation, but i interesting to knock out how i became a tv presenter after 40 years yes 50 and you at 50? yes, i have a little. before, a little. before , literally. well, how did this happen, and why did it happen, and in this case , from your point of view, is age an advantage or a disadvantage? i will answer the second question immediately categorically, the benefits are absolutely, well, in my case, i won’t speak for everyone, in my case, absolutely a and the work of a tv presenter and even more so some. well, i call her to me all the time the word. here it is there fame mundality. we call it morality. a

i know to myself that if it fell on me there at 30 or at 35, i would definitely fly off the cuckoo. well, some kind of stardom, this one, i was not ready for this at 50, a little easier. that is, you understand that it’s not you who is so great recognizable smart, and that’s all, knowing and so on. and this is something for you that was measured from above. here. well, come on. it's easy to appreciate. here he became the leader. i am somewhat casual enough. although, we all know that in life everything works out, not by chance. yes, by chance it was that i have been working on channel one since 2000. and in july 14. as a matter of fact, time will show the program started like, well, the producer is actually, so the presenters were, uh , pyotr tolstoy and ekaterina strizhenova katya, and now, uh, she is also participating in the program, and

then in the seventeenth year, peter was elected to the state duma and became vice packer. and there, according to the law, he could no longer work as a walker and it was just necessary to quickly replace him and, uh, in a sense of the word, i first got there as a temporary shift, because that according to the law, while the election campaign is going on, you can’t work on the air, and i just replaced peter. well, because, you know , i know how the program works, they told you. well, they didn't tell me, i can't say. so here you are put down the microphone and come into the frame come in. well, you're a tv person. yes, to me without the decision of the head. this is not understood by management. i said this, but i can’t really say that i immediately happily slammed my souls, because at that time, having worked at the age of 17 on television on ear microphone. in general , i understood very well that it’s not a fact that at 50 years old this is all right here for me, although i can’t say that

i categorically fought back right now. i'm not a fortress after all. here, therefore, yes, therefore , after all, although on television, sometimes you think serf and not serf is such a job. that's why i entered temporarily. but no, nothing more than constant time, and then pyotr olegovich stayed there and i entered the frame, but if i didn’t succeed in this month, it’s clear that there would be others decision means a decision has been made. well , i have something that turns out that, in general, well, it’s not useless and it’s not embarrassing. after all, you can turn off the microphone during the broadcast. well, i support censorship, sometimes keep in mind, stones for guests, not for yourself. you can’t give a platform for vultures, but you can sometimes use foul language on the air. yes, i could. before, that is, this is no longer taboo. well, first of all, this is how it

used to be taboo. that is, it’s not what i am , but how this abu removed himself. and let's say so. i thought that now it is necessary, and here i am it never was conscious always when it is conscious. it can always be said. that's the law - it does not regulate. i don’t abuse it either, so all the cases that i had at first. you kind of asked this question, as i entered, i answered you that i got into the frame quite quickly unexpectedly for myself and the life experience of previous years. he, as you probably know, at first does not mean anything, and sometimes it interferes when you get into the frame. moreover, i immediately got into the live broadcast. these are generally separate paste, so aerobatics in general is for the tv. well, i will not argue with this, disagree out of modesty, as it were, but this is true, especially when you work live there for 3 hours. and this is the country and so on. that's why it's clear that

no matter what kind of adult you are, you're partly professional and so on. it's adrenaline sometimes. here and plus it is your own emotions. why do i say that at 50 it was good for me, because i'm on the air and in the frame i don't say anything that i, well, don't i wouldn't have felt it myself, i could be wrong. i might be wrong. well artyom yes, wait, here, yes, you are fired in my memory, almost everyone on the internet. yes? i want to understand why sometimes we don't see you. but the most interesting thing is why do they write about the fact that e shainin played out and that he was finally removed from the air or not removed from the air, but it was the headlines that were fined. and, well, look, and that means about all these numerous ones. uh, there are three questions in this question, first, about numerous regular flare-ups were precisely removed by sheinin, dismissed by sheinin, there is something and

this is part of that very muzzle since. well, you are well-known, or at least recognizable , people may not even watch tv, but it’s like all this flickers somewhere on hearing, therefore, our colleagues. well, they are so formal, only the collegium is actually not your colleagues, yes, colleagues. eh, that gets attention. you see, these headlines, they are sold, people start clicking something there to read, and so on and so forth. similar. why don't you see me sometimes, because we have a big country. 11 time zones and when how? i already said you're going live. uh, relatively speaking, to moscow, there from 18:20 to 20:00 moscow time, then relatively speaking in the far east at this time it is already night, there and in kamchatka it is already deep night and therefore the next day, when they have at 18: 20 already it is not necessary at all, what is relevant is what you said in your 18:20. this is a very complex scheme. that's why these are the orbits. we call it all

very complicated story. therefore, sometimes it’s not something that is broadcast, that is, if you look on the internet on the website of channel one, here is the broadcast that goes on in moscow and i ’m always on the air from monday to thursday 18:20 dash officially removed you, at least once i was officially off the air uh, once a day. and not for what was said on the air. there is another topic that is definitely interesting for our viewers, you worked with the poseur for a long time, and in the program there were times as the chief editor and after in the poseur itself. yes, this is the division of people according to political views. this is the hardest moment. with us, this is very much after the twentieth year that this has surfaced for both relatives and colleagues. yes, you

keep in touch with those. who takes a slightly different position or, maybe, rather, they are with you, do they maintain relations after 24-22 and do you understand how with everyone who supports is ready to keep in touch with me? as you say, but it is there to swear, to prove something, to condemn and so on. i myself have not broken off relations with anyone, but i understand that some people understand my position, which is also public. and knowing that this is a public position. it is also my own. that is, it’s not that people there understand that i’m on the air there. i say one thing, but i myself am actually there, uh, something’s not here, everyone won’t watch. everyone understands perfectly well that i am both here and there , regardless of whether i am right or wrong,

whether they agree with me or not, which is why many people. it’s just that they distanced themselves, because they don’t want to argue, but they understand that they cannot prove, therefore, of course, with some of my uh, acquaintances and colleagues. and not only colleagues, with after 24.02 relations, let's say so. well, now the term freezing is often discussed. here they are frozen. yes, but you understand that it's freezing. it's always something else. what do you want to keep. e in the calculation, what can then be defrosted? it is not annihilation and erasure. and it's frozen. this is a freeze on your part, as i understand it, judging by the strength. this is freezing. eh, from different angles. i got cold with some people you understand that they will not accept my position. and i, that is, everyone to whom i can explain, realizing that they are ready to listen to an explanation, who, for example, is not sure there, does not know,

he hesitates. who asks, who does not support, but says, well, explain to me who is interested in figuring out who it is not possible to deal with them exactly, but who with those? i know he definitely isn't, but he respects my position or he doesn't respect my position. and i do not want to spoil the relationship with him human. e. yes, someone himself with someone i am one of them, but you understand how since vladimir vladimirovich, uh, and this is not a secret for anyone, for this it is enough to open the program of the first channel with it does not go on the air from 24.02 a and hmm in general, his position. this is his position, and i dare to suggest that it does not coincide with mine. that's it, but he respects mine . i respect him, therefore, in this sense. yes, he is one of these numbers in terms of human position, i have infinite respect for him. i think he treats me well too.

here and here is just what i said about freezing with the expectation that here, well it needs to be saved. thread, and now if you unfreeze it, it will disappear, i mean this, you see, a very adult position when you can share. emotions and political views and human relations, and this is marat about your question about age. that's why i'm happy that all this happened to me 50, and now i'm 57, because by this age, if the lord wants to give you wisdom. he already gives you some minimum. and you hurt involuntarily . in these difficult situations that you are now asking, you sometimes don’t even know as it should be, and you intuitively feel that it is necessary, so here is another interesting fact that you would like to comment on unconditionally patriot even from what i now hear that you don’t say, it’s something you don’t

think about, and you don’t have this division. this is for broadcast. this is for life. at one time you were the creative producer of the travels of pozner and urgant of one-story america, a good project, by the way, a television project. this is your brainchild, this brainchild of vladimir vladimirovich, in which i, in which i showed him, uh, all possible help. and well, probably something in this reported. i'm just for a second, i'll just tell you a very short story so that you understand my role there, when we have been working for two and a half years vladimirovich here at times he is somehow after the broadcast, well, live. somehow, all the groups were sitting and discussing something. well, about life, and he said then that he had a dream. it was 2002, probably the year that he has a dream. eh, here, he really loved this book with one-story america and petrov that he had a dream to make this project. here's how to repeat them uh, trip and me. said, well, half a joke, i

said i spoke german, if you can do something. well, because you need it, if you can do something, and you need a boy to carry the equipment. you still have it 4 years later. uh, well, 3 1/2, he told me, artyom, remember, you subscribed to the boy. here is an opportunity. i said, generally ready, where is the equipment, where to where to drag it, he said, well, there is such a proposal above the name. i had to take a steam bath, it was already years ago, unlike the ones that follow there projects. by the way, about the fact that i'm saying that i invested something. here is an example of an israeli project. well , vladimir vladimirovich wrote about it, this is easily verified, so it's not what i'm talking about here, but the name of the israeli project. this is my proposal, which was accepted, therefore, yes, i made it. you can consider yourself a statesman. well, now , at least as much about there, you understand a person who often encountered something and often

discusses it cannot be considered a specialist. i have some reason and some by the way, the previous dota is illusory, both vital, that i definitely understand something like that and about the americans, let's say, well, more than an average person. it's clean good then. that's why i want to ask you why then you were not imbued with this american dream, which is so imposed and why the americans cannot understand russia with the mind, and i will surprise you marat. i was imbued with the american dream, which well, which i saw there, and which there was once in america and which still remained in places just that american dream. e, about which it is customary to write books and make films, and about which it is customary to talk about with such a sigh.

not only is it not embodied in today's america, today's america is in many ways a perpendicular to this american dream, that is, and today 's america is in many ways also this american dream, which we all talk about, it distorts it in many ways and, in fact, it's me, because what, when here is this experience of a trip through one-story america that you are talking about, you understand, when you drove, there are 15,000 miles by car across america through the north through the west coast and then back. that's how they lie and spent the night in some motels, sat in some of these local bars there in the dough, where they looked at you. who are you there? like we are russian? let's talk and so on, when you see america from the inside. you understand that what we are discussing now, discussing america , is like this deep date of all these bidens and so on. these are generally perpendicular things , perpendicular things, therefore, in a sense, the current american political

the elite is, firstly, something separate from the american dream and, in a sense , a betrayal of this american dream, therefore i no longer accept and reject what is now called the united states of america that i had the opportunity to understand and feel the true the american dream and the essence, which i know that these people have perverted betrayed and largely because of them, uh for many decades, uh, they are hated in the world despite the fact that uh a huge number of americans, but they are not talking about it at all, in general, as if separately from this one, as it were, on the flip-flops of gypsum, well, that's all this nonsense. okay, let's have a little. let's go back to the war, taught me to understand people. these are your words. it doesn't matter if you have sneakers or how many girls you have charmed , it's important for you, we all know that the screen does not forgive insincerity. but what does

war not forgive? war does not forgive. weaknesses , war does not forgive not readiness, more precisely, so war does not forgive if you are weak and not ready, it does not forgive, if you are not ready to become stronger. and well, how to learn, that is, if you did not come there as a warrior. and you're not ready to become a warrior, she won't forgive you. and if you have it, it doesn't matter, you are a boy from an intelligent family who was raised by his grandfather. uh, or you're there, uh, a person who grew up there in a strong family, there it all doesn't matter. if you have it. and if you are ready to take it from the war, she will teach you this. and if you will be her, that's what she

does not forgive, it includes everything and cowardice and infidelity and meanness, when i wrote this phrase and said more than once this phrase that she does not forgive. and that there is everyone like that, in a sense, when you get into the army in general, and in the war, in particular, you kind of get there naked, and you have to again. to become someone you become again nothing nothing and no one in a sense many years after the army. i understand. what was, uh, the essence of the study. and at first i couldn’t understand why they beat you out of yourself, because at some point you have to reset to zero, that is, again start on this foundation, if you can build yourself a new one along the bottom. and, well, if you have such an opportunity, then you will line up and therefore many people come with their own. it's not

such a commonplace phrase. they come from the war different, not because she changed them there, but because they were supposed to become. there, others understand, others will grow out of them , they should have germinated something that they might never know what they have, that's war in this sense hmm shows people the way they are in reality, they are the way they want to show themselves. that's all. here, look, in our country there is no title of people's tv presenter and in russia there is no such name, but they are unspoken. they say that you are one of them is considered many believe so. i know that a decent suit will often be changed to camo. what do we have today? and on vacation quite often and on weekends you go on your own now. recharge

your internal battery. it's true, i've never had to talk in this studio with a man who was personally there in the trenches in the trenches. i stressed. so this is the war. she is not from the screens, but inside. do you understand me? i agree and i will not deny that this is how you said i go to recharge my batteries, but this is the result, this is not the goal. uh, my trips there and exactly. well, paybacks - this may sound very pathetic. although in the trenches. and here in the trenches, as in the trenches. i also visit often enough. well, let's say on the front line. and the goal is to return to broadcast work. i do it many times spoke, and spoke on the air, and spoke himself in the telegram. i need this because hmm when

you're on the air every night. to the millionth audience there, including the guys there , you say, work brothers, we are with you. to be honest with them and with yourself you must regu.