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artyom good evening good evening, perhaps our regular viewers expected to see a prigozhin here. well, we saw an equally interesting person of artem shenin. moreover, we are all a little similar. well, yes, i have a close image, but as they say, time will tell on your program. in the meantime, i would like to rewind a little time back to find out for myself and tell the viewer a little about you, and your positions we hear them regularly, but it is very important to show. why exactly do you have the right to say what you say, and why you can and should be heard by a boy who was fond of diplomacy. this is a fact after he went to war. let's start a little pompously. that's how

it was tempered. and do you understand what's the matter? and i understand your paphos, it is appropriate, but given that the boy was born in the sixty-sixth year. that is, respectively, books on the history of diplomacy. i'm not that studied diplomacy. it's just that my grandfather used to be a diplomat before the war. i had five such volumes of the history of diplomacy at my house, and i started reading it there at the age of 10. i was just wondering what, in general, was largely reflected in my perception. these current problems, in general, how the world works, and so on and so forth, because when you start there with fi in a village in egypt and, in principle, you see that plus or minus is always the same and i started read these books. i was a soviet boy and then steel. she, in principle, all more or less so tempered. that is, it is not my steel. so tempered. it was like that then in the country, plus or minus. general

steel, tempering. history it was komsomol it was sport it was from e. international panorama. e with alexander boivin. an informant of the secretary class is firing there. uh, that means, e komsomol organization and so on, there and the like, so in this sense, my steel was not particularly tempered. and just like that, the time was so unwashed. it was such a time in which every e, where was e, let's say, in whom was the space, where this time can go, e, come in and give your results. it gave these results, that is, it is clear that there were different people at that time. but then if if you are more or less qualified to temper in all this. as a matter of fact, you are part of this generally accepted hardening. you can go play sports. there you can, so i

started jumping with a parachute before the army, please, here's dosaaf here's driving for you. here's the sports section for you. here you are, at the age of 13 i went to the palace of a pioneer on the lenin hills, and began to learn japanese without japanese i have no answer to this question, because well, that's because there was a list of do not know of forty languages. well, that is, you understand the boy from the poor. which just comes there so that i want to go there, i chose georgian japanese first there, and georgian was enough for me there for two classes, because i didn’t find an answer for myself, the word modlob, probably learned and, of course, could uh, there and everything you need for life. yes, but the japanese somehow caught on, that is , in the same way, the film in the zone of special attention. same it's not like some one i pulled him out somewhere, and he knows me there, that's what he pierced to the depths of the soul, he pierced to the depths of the soul, approximately there are several more million. kid, because there was such a film, because such films were made,

because they knew why they were being filmed, and so on and so forth, and all these building blocks. eh, this is how they stack up. and if you have somewhere inside your ancestors there, well, in my case there, grandfather and mother have the right cement from these bricks you and it will turn out this is where you played from, in the theater. i played theater at school since the sixth grade. we had school plays, you know? this is again from the same series, i began to play in the theater, because i was lucky with the class teacher. you know, school then. she taught and nurtured they provided educational services. we had a class teacher. no, leave the teacher of russian language or literature. it was cool with us in history, which, as it were, created a theater schoolgirl school theater, well, here we are from class. how familiar is this? well, what is the difference between us and you, how much we are about. yes, you and i are about the same here. i played in the foundry shop in russian people. well

, let's list the bricks again yes, japanese hand-to-hand combat. come on , diplomacy, which you liked, you studied books on the history of the history of diplomacy. yes, and you come to the draft board and ask to go to war. i didn't ask for a war. i wanted to go to war, but, because when i came to the draft board, the first time it was attributed was 83 years. she it has been 4 years already, well, relatively speaking, three years, the gum was in the eighty-third year. uh, i wanted the airborne troops in the airborne forces from the beginning . well, for obvious reasons. in the zone of special attention there is all this. here. i wanted the airborne forces and since you want the airborne forces and you want to be a paratrooper and there is a war in which you know that the airborne forces are fighting there, it is clear that if you go to the airborne forces, then you want, uh, well, to the war not because to the war she you were ready, what i wanted i wanted and i did not need anything for this. did it because me i was assigned when i was assigned to the team, 209 b,

and then when i returned, i knew that 209b is the airborne forces of afghanistan, that is, my fate, it seems to me there. what is called. well, that is, i wanted to and they told me, well, the guy looks like, he really wants and, probably, he is ready for everything fergana, fergana, on the very first day. uh, distributing by company, we were told the sixth company, the sixth company. well, congratulations. after 3 months, everything is going where it is going to afghanistan. it happened with this, here is the city where i served, my part of the 56th brigade, so i'm not what i wanted i kind of understood what i needed. i need it, well, you wrote her a book that was not invented by afghan, i'm an audiope. yes, i wrote a book, not invented afghan and an audio play, almost 20 years after the demobilization. uh, hmm prompted.

well, not what prompted me. hmm, a certain motivating factor was what came out in 2005, in my opinion, the ninth company, which i didn’t really like, but uh, since i started to reflect, therefore , like many afghans and discuss, what you like, what you don't like, and the big role that the 9th company played, because it brought this topic back into the community. we did not reflect on the afghan war before. yes, that is , it ended in february 1989. the bashful began to soak it, we first started it. at first we began to shyly hush it up, because we were forced into alien competition a 80 around the sixth and seventh year, then the eighty-ninth. it ended, and then in the ninety-first everything turned upside down. so we were simply no longer pre-reflections of the afghan war, and someone experienced all these reflections of their own, someone personally in the company all of us put them aside. i have everything that i wrote in 2005. you know how documents are on the printer and printed, that is, they are there, but not yet printed. and when i sat down to write, here, based on the motives of all these discussions that had begun, the ninth company there , about something or other, i just sat down and wrote. that's

why afghan didn't come up with it. i just sat down and wrote what i had in my head for a long time, i wrote there. it's literally there in 2-3 months. just at night, as if it had already been everything. well, look at us i already find a lot of parallels, however, between us we will return to the war exactly in a conversation, but i ’m wondering, you, like me, became a tv presenter after 40 years yes 50. and you at 50? yes , i have a little bit earlier, a little bit earlier, so literally. well, how did this happen, and why did it happen, and in this case , from your point of view, is age an advantage or a minus? i will answer the second question immediately categorically, the benefits are absolutely, well, in my case, i won’t speak for everyone, in my case, absolutely, and the work of a tv presenter and even more so some. well, i call her everything word time. that's where the fame is. well, there is morality, we call it morality. and

i know to myself that if it had fallen on me there at 30 or at 35, i would definitely fly off the cuckoo. well, some kind of stardom, this one, i was not ready for this at 50, a little easier. that is, you understand that it’s not you who is so great and recognizable smart and everything, knowing and so on. and this is something for you that was measured from above. here. well, come on. it's easy to appreciate. here he became the leader. i am somewhat casual enough. although, we all know that in life all accidents are not accidental. yes, by chance it was that i had been working on channel one since 2000? yes, and in july of the fourteenth year. as a matter of fact, time will show the program started like, well, the producer is actually, so the presenters were , uh, pyotr tolstoy and ekaterina strizhenova katya , and now, uh, she is also participating in the program, and

then in the seventeenth year, peter was elected to the state duma and became vice packer. and there, according to the law, he could no longer work as a going man and he just had to quickly replace and, uh, in a sense of the word, i first got in as such a temporary shift, because according to the law, while the election campaign is going on, you can’t work on the air, and i just replaced peter. well, because you understand, i know how the program works, they told you, as well. well, after all, they didn’t tell me, it’s impossible to say, so you put down the microphone and come on into the frame. well, you're a tv person. yes, of course, without the decision of the head. it is, of course, a hand. i said this, but i really can’t say that i immediately happily slammed the souls, because that at that time having worked at the age of 17 on television on a microphone in his ear. in general , i understood very well that it’s not a fact that at 50 years old this is all right here for me, although i can’t say that i categorically

fought back right now. i'm not a fortress after all. here, therefore, yes, therefore, after all, although on television, sometimes you think, and serf is not serf, this is such a job. that's why i entered temporarily. but no, nothing more permanent, then pyotr olegovich stayed there and i entered the frame, but if i hadn’t succeeded this month, of course, that there would be other decisions, then a decision was made. well, i have something that turns out that, in general, well, it’s not useless and it’s not embarrassing. after all, you can turn off the microphone during the broadcast. well, i support censorship and sometimes keep in mind the guests, of course, not yourself. you can’t give a platform for vultures, but you can sometimes use foul language on the air. yes, i could. before, that is, this is no longer taboo. well, firstly, this was the way it used to be taboo. that is, it’s not what i am

, but how would this abu remove himself and, let’s say so. i thought that now it is necessary and i have never been conscious of it, always when it is conscious. it can always be said. that's the law - it does not regulate. i don’t abuse it either, so all the cases that i had at first. you kind of asked this question, as i entered, i answered you that i got into the frame quite quickly unexpectedly for myself and the life experience of previous years. he, as you probably know, at first does not mean anything, and sometimes it interferes when you get into the frame. moreover, i got live immediately. this is generally a separate shepherd therefore aerobatics, actually for television. well, i will not argue with this, disagree out of modesty, as it were, but this is true, especially when you work live there for 3 hours. and this is the country and so on. that's why it's clear that no matter what kind of adult you are, you're partly

professional and so on. it's adrenaline sometimes. here and plus it is your own emotions. why do i say that at the age of 50 it was good for me, because i am on the air and in the frame does not say anything that i, well, if i didn’t feel it myself, i wouldn’t think, i could be wrong. i might be wrong. well artyom yes, wait, here, yes, you are fired in my memory, almost everyone on the internet on the internet. i want to understand why sometimes we don't see you. but the most interesting thing is why do they write about the fact that e shainin played out and that he was finally removed from the air or not removed from the air, but it was the headlines that were fined. and, well, look, and that means about all these numerous ones. eh, here in this question three questions, firstly, about the numerous regular flashing destructions, it is necessary to remove the shanin, fire the shaning, there is something

. well, you are well-known, or at least recognizable, people may not even watch tv in your program, but it’s like all this flickers somewhere on hearing, therefore, our colleagues. well, they are so formally only colleagues, but in fact they didn’t colleague with you. yes, colleagues, uh, this attracts attention. you see, these headlines, they are sold, people start something there to click to read and so on and so forth. why don't you see me sometimes, because we have a big country. 11 time zones and when how? i already said you're going live. uh, relatively speaking, to moscow, there from 18:20 to 20:00 moscow time, then relatively speaking in the far east at this time it is already deep night there and in kamchatka , and therefore the next day, when they have at 18:20 already absolutely not necessary, what is relevant is what you said in your 18:20. this is a very complex scheme. that's why these here are the orbits. we call them this is all

a very complicated story. therefore, sometimes it’s not something that is broadcast, that is, if you look on the internet on the website of channel one, here is the broadcast that goes on in moscow and i ’m always on the air from monday to thursday 18:20 dash officially removed you, at least once i was officially off the air uh, once a day. and not for what was said on the air. there is another topic that is definitely interesting for our viewers, you worked with the posner for a long time, and in the program there are times as the chief editor and after very poser. yes, this is the division of people according to political views. this is the hardest moment. in our country, after the twentieth year , this surfaced for both relatives and colleagues. yes, you

keep in touch with those. who takes a slightly different position or, maybe, rather, they are with you, do they maintain relations after 24-22 and do you understand how with everyone who supports is ready to keep in touch with me? as you say, but it is there to swear, to prove something, to condemn and so on. i didn't break up with anyone relationship, but i understand that some people understand my position, which is also public. and knowing that this is a public position. it is also my own. that is, it’s not that people there understand that i’m on the air there. i say one thing, but i myself am actually there, uh, something ’s not here, everyone won’t watch. everyone understands perfectly well that i am both here and there , regardless of whether i am right or wrong, whether they agree with me or not, which is why

many people. it’s just that they distanced themselves, because they don’t want to argue, but they understand that they cannot prove it, therefore, of course, with some of my e, acquaintances and colleagues. and not only colleagues, with after 24.02 relations, let's say so. well, now the term freezing is often discussed. here they are frozen. yes, but you understand that freezing is always something else. what do you want to keep. e in the calculation, what can then be defrosted? it is not annihilation and erasure. and it's frozen. this is a freeze on your part, as i understand it, judging by the strength. this is freezing. uh, from different sides. i froze with some people , you understand that they will not accept my position. and i, that is, everyone to whom i can explain, realizing that they are ready to listen to an explanation, who, for example, is not sure there, does not know,

he hesitates. who asks, who does not support, but says, well, explain to me who is interested in figuring out who it is not possible to deal with them exactly, but who with those? i know he definitely isn't, but he respects my position or he doesn't respect my position. and i do not want to spoil the relationship with him human. yes, someone i myself am with someone i am one of them, but you understand how since vladimir vladimirovich e, and this is not a secret for anyone, for this it is enough to open the program of channel one with it does not go on the air from february 24 a and hmm in general, his position. uh, that's his position, and i dare say it's not the same as mine. that's it, but he respects mine. i respect him, so in that sense. yes , he is one of them in terms of human position, i have infinite respect for him. i think he treats me well too.

that's just what i said about freezing with the expectation that, well, what should be preserved. thread, and now if you unfreeze it, it will disappear, i mean this, you see, a very adult position when you can share. emotions and political views and human relationships are extremely difficult. and this is marat about your question about age. that's why i'm happy that all this happened to me 50, and now i'm 57, because by this age, if the lord wants to give you wisdom. he already gives you some minimum. and you hurt involuntarily. in these difficult situations that you are now asking, sometimes you don’t even know how to do it, and you intuitively feel that you need to, so here’s another interesting fact that i would like you to comment on unconditionally patriot even from the fact that i now i hear that you do not speak, this is what you do not think about, and you do not have

this separation. this is for broadcast. this is for life. at one time you were a creative producer to travel pozner and urgant one-story america a good project, by the way, television this is your brainchild, this brainchild, vladimir vladimirovich, in which i, in which i showed him, uh, all possible help. and well , probably something in this reported. i'm just for a second, i'll just tell you a story very briefly, so that you understand my role there, when we have been working for two years with vladimir vladimirovich here at times he is somehow after the broadcast, well, live. somehow, all the groups were sitting and discussing something. well, about life, and he said then that he had a dream. it was 2002, probably the year that he has a dream. eh, here he is, this book is very i loved. one-story america ilf and petrov that he has a dream to make this project. here's how to repeat their trip, and then i said, well, as a half joke. i said owned vladimirovich if you succeed. well,

because that's what you need if you can do something and you need a boy to carry the equipment. you still have it 4 years later. uh, well, 3 1/2, he told me, artyom, remember, you subscribed to the boy. here is an opportunity. i said, in general, i’m ready, where is the equipment to drag where it’s bad, he said, well here is such proposal need name. i needed to steam. it was a year ago to take a steam bath. hmm, unlike the projects that follow there. by the way, about the fact that i'm saying that i invested something. here is an example of an israeli project. uh, this, well, vladimir vladimirovich was written about this, this is easily verified, so it's not what i'm talking about here, but the name of the israeli project. this is my proposal, which was accepted, so yes. you can consider yourself a statesman. well now at least at least as many projects you understand, a person who often encountered something and often

discusses it cannot be considered a specialist. i have some grounds and some , by the way, previous dota illusory life experience, that i definitely understand something about the state and about the americans, let's say, well, more than the average person. it's clean good then. that's why i want to ask you why, then, you were not imbued with this american dream, which is so imposed and why the americans cannot understand russia. and i will surprise you marat i. imbued with that the american dream, which i saw there, and which there once was in america and which in some places still remains only that american dream. e, about which it is customary to write books and make films, and about which it is customary to talk about with such a sigh. not only is it not embodied in today's america , today's america is in many ways a perpendicular to this american dream,

that is, and today's america is in many ways also this american dream, which we all talk about, it distorts it in many ways and actually, it's me, because when this experience of driving in one-story america that you're talking about, you know , when you drive, there's 15,000 miles in a car across america through the north through the west coast and then back. that's how they lie and spent the night in some motels and sat in some of these local bars there in the test, where they looked at you. who are you there? like we are russians. let's talk and so on, when you see america from the inside. you understand that what we are discussing now, discussing america like this this is the deep state of all these bidens and so on. these are generally perpendicular things perpendicular things, therefore, in a sense, the current american political elite is, firstly, something separate from the american dream and in a sense

, a betrayal of this american dream, so i no longer accept and reject what is now called the united states of america that i had the opportunity to understand and feel the true american dream and the essence that i know that these people perverted betrayed and largely because of them u for many decades, uh, they are hated in the world despite the fact that u a huge number of americans, but they are not about it at all, in general, as if separately from this one, as if u on flip flops gypsum, well, all that's a beautiful daughter of this demon. okay, let's have a little. let's go back to the war, taught me to understand people. these are your words. it doesn't matter if you have sneakers or how many girls you 've charmed, it's important for you, we all know that the screen does not forgive insincerity. and here what does war not forgive? war does not forgive.

weakness, the war does not forgive not readiness, more precisely, so the war does not forgive if you are weak and not ready, it does not forgive, if you are not ready to stand up stronger. and well, how to learn, that is, if you did not come there as a warrior. and you're not ready to become a warrior, she won't forgive you. and if you have it, it doesn't matter, you are a boy from an intelligent family who was raised by his grandfather. uh, or you're there , uh, a person who grew up there in a strong family, there it all doesn't matter. if in you it is. and if you are ready to take it from the war , she will teach you this. and if you will be her, that's what she does not forgive, it includes everything

and cowardice and infidelity and meanness, when i wrote this phrase and said this phrase more than once that she does not forgive. and that there is everyone like that, in a sense, when you get into the army in general, and in the war, in particular, you kind of get there naked, and you have to again. to become someone you become again nothing nothing and nobody in a sense uh many years after the army. i understand. what was, uh, the essence of the study, and at first i couldn’t understand why they were knocking you out of you, because at some point you must reset to zero, that is, again so precisely and on this basis, start if you can new yourself line up along the bottom line up. and, well, if you have such an opportunity, then you will line up, and therefore a lot of people, but their own or others come. it's not such a commonplace phrase. they come from the war different, not

because she changed them there, but because they were supposed to become. you understand others there other of them grow up had to sprout something that they might never know what they have, that's war in this sense hmm shows people the way they really are, they are the way they want to show themselves . that's all. here, look, if in our country there is no title of people's tv presenter and in russia there is no such name, but they are behind the scenes. they say that you are one of them is considered many believe so. i know that a decent suit will often be changed to camo. what do we have today? and on vacation quite often and in the weekend you drive on your own now. recharge your internal battery. it's true, i've

never had the opportunity to talk in this studio with a person who was personally there in the trenches in the trenches. i stressed. so this is the war. she is not from the screens, but inside. do you understand me? i agree and i will not deny that this is how you said i go to recharge my batteries, but this is the result, this is not the goal. e of my trips there and exactly. well, paybacks - this may sound very pathetic. although in the trenches. and here in the trenches, as in the trenches. me too experienced visit quite often. well, let's say on the front line. and the goal is to return to broadcast work. i have said this many times, and i have said it on the air and in the telegram i have said it myself. i need this because hmm when you're

on the air every night. to an audience of millions there, addressing the guys there too , you say, work brothers. we're with you to be honest with them and with ourselves. you should be there regularly with the brethren. so you must i must for yourself and the batteries are recharged smoothly, therefore, because you realize that you're coming there. you have become one of them. yes, let it be for a short time, even if not on the very-most, in front of it. you don’t go on the assault, and you understand them, but in modern warfare you understand, the hammer can fly anywhere, and you won’t figure out where he will fly and over this year i’ve been traveling with me, well, there were practically no such situations and two when she arrived. here, as it were, just

here and here and so on and so forth. so the battery is recharged automatically, because you do it. uh, what should and what will be will. a it’s even somehow you know how it is, it’s difficult to describe and tell , because i understand that when you start to describe in words what you are doing, because you can’t help but do it, then it turns out to be such a little bit of an artificial construction . although, it is correct, it reflects what really is, but in fact, this is the first time i have gone like this, well, i went for a noticeably long time. here at the end of april 22, as soon as i have. well, we have a long may as soon as, well, it turned out a gap, firstly to go. and secondly, when he himself, well, we are also at the forefront of the information front and it is clear that it has been there since february 24th. i'm out there not taking out the air. there we have the first two or three days of 100 or kuzichev. we had 12 hours of live broadcast 12 hours

of live broadcast with a break for the news, because we do not understand anything in this sense, too, was transmitted. still. it was a little different, as soon as i got the opportunity. and how would i go, i went, because it is impossible not to go. here one moment is very even. you know what propagandists are on the front lines, right? you not afraid to become a trophy? do you know how there is such an afghan song? only a fool is not afraid to die. he's just not afraid of anything, he doesn't lose anything. i. i do not reason in categories, i am afraid or i am not afraid. i am well aware that i and i am the target. i can become a target. and what hmm in a sense is a risk for me, but this risk is nothing compared to how every day.

these guys are taking risks. and the consideration that you are now expressing, which, of course, has a place to be. well, yes, it is, but if i i'll start a guide and tell them. well, you know, that’s why i understand, it’s not that i don’t reflect on this, i was more fortunate in this sense than many, because i had two years of this. i was in afghanistan for exactly two years, and call to call from the third of august eighty-fourth on the fifth. august 1986 i thought, i understand, but let me clarify one thing. it is very important for me to understand it for myself, and the people who are on the front line in the trenches are ready to die, or they are ready to live this important moment. here it is an internal state. what are they for themselves, how do they set themselves up to survive in this

situation or die, as a phenomenon it is inevitable, the only question here is time. and by the way, here i am now answering this question. here's the previous one, when you asked, i know that i'm like russian, which means i'm a fighter of the information front. i can be a target for a vysovy and so on and so forth, but a very important addition to this issue. i always when i go. i'm always aware that i'm there. they hang out only when i have already returned explaining why and this is to that question, which you just asked, because i understand that i am a target, and i understand that they also have eyes and ears on our territory, as it were, and i understand that those people i came to. if i start everywhere i go there oh i come there i go there i go there i am definitely a very desirable target. i make them an additional solution. yes, i can

substitute, therefore, i always only when i returned. i practically do not make exceptions the only exception. i did when i'm on february 24th, here's the 23rd 23-24th anniversary i went there to the boys for 2 days. it just mattered. well, so that today and i'm here that's because i knew that by the time it hangs, i'll practically leave. so that's why it's important to answer the next question. i know that the people who are there, either immediately or quickly enough, who are ready for war or becoming ready for war, or can prepare for it to our previous question. i am talking about them now. you understand that when you ask the people there, the people there are very different someone gets there, thinks he is ready , turns out not to be ready, and someone gets there, it seems not ready, it turns out that he is much more ready. it's just that i

also remember this effect from afghan, i remember how many simply very cool rex, uh, from training. in afghanistan, they were very blown away, and some boys, well, who, in the military sense of the word, did not grab the stars from the sky. somehow, you know, they dried up like that and somehow just opened up from a completely different side and became these rexes. in this sense, in in this sense, warriors are not at all different, so many people get there one thing and become another there. so we say, very hmm average. those people who understand why they are there and were able to let it into themselves and vice versa grow together with it or somehow get used to the war. they do not think in these categories, they will not kill, but if i die, i will not die. they think in categories that, a , there is a task that needs to be completed for someone, someone thinks there are a lot of them, and this,

by the way, does not always make a soldier worse, but let's say someone limits the scope of the combat mission. here i am, here is the enemy. here is the defender. here is the tank i don’t know there, something i have to destroy it, my task is how to defeat someone and such people also told me a lot there and you understand, there is no point in lying, especially since i drive without a camera without a group without television without anything in general dugouts under fire. as the truth, as a rule, they don’t lie, so many people told me, we are here. because we understand that if we don’t finish it here now, then it will have to finish our money. and when a person with this understanding, either goes to war on his own, or he goes there, uh, they call, uh, they mobilize and he does not hide and goes. this

means that he has this understanding of need either on a drug addiction or on an intuitive level. and when you are a soldier, if you are a soldier right here and here and you understand that this needs to be a factor, they will not kill him. it becomes secondary not at all no one thinks. how many days in this checked out during this time in total, if that's for all my travel 60 days, you are a volunteer. well, something is voluntary. yes, in this sense, but, but there are mercenaries in the same place. we see every day in the chronicle. there are polish americans there. yes , there are also belarusians on the other side. yes, but who is actually fighting there, who else have you encountered? and i'm like me. of course, here, because i do not go to assaults. and well, if i participate in hostilities, as if in combat,

then this is when there are shelling or something like that. i know that there are a lot of poles in communication sections where the guys said that we generally hear more polish than ukrainian or russian. well, because from the ukrainian side, when it comes to that, quite a lot of people switch to russian, they want to speak their native language, well, to their native language yes, that's according to the results of the actions of those boys with whom. well, who am i going to, and i drove three times, well, the entire front. here is kherson dolgonskaya, therefore, well, it is more or less everywhere, but i have it. uh, the stripes taken off with the american flag are another matter, what is incomprehensible? this is an american flag, which is from an american or the american flag is already the soldiers of the armed forces, who are reflashed to such an extent that for some reason he puts on the flag of a foreign state in combat. there are a lot there. well,

you know what's up. i think the people who are present. they cannot be considered there. there are poles, americans, georgians, belarusians and russians there. well, in the sense of the russian federation. they are fighting there in no way representatives of these nationalities of these countries. they are fighting there, as part of a certain force that perceives us as a threat to itself and perceive us correctly, because well, when you resist. to something in our case that you consider evil, of course, you are a threat to this evil. well, in this sense, i don’t have any, well, it would be strange if they didn’t consider us a threat, evil, enemies there , and so on and so forth in the case of, in any case, with ukrainians with belarusians who are at war with that side in our case. i often say what we have about it. you said about the mercenaries in general, this whole process. i define it for myself conditionally,

as a foreign military intervention with elements of the civil war. or maybe even i would say more harshly a civil war with elements of foreign intervention, because , well, what is called? after all, we are at war with the uh , uh, ukrainian army, or with the ukrainians, not because and not about the fact that they are ukrainians and they are with us, not because we are russians. this is a question of what kind of ukrainians they want to be and what they don’t want to be and what they want or don’t want to be, that is, what they adjoin or want to adjoin and what we consider ourselves as threats in this case. that's all, therefore therefore, the phrase that we are fighting against nato is not completely non-propaganda. we are at war with that ukraine in that part of ukraine , you understand, i say, well, we have a civil war, because ukrainians are also fighting here. what ukrainians? i say a second, but donetsk luhansk yes, and

many of our listen to siberia, the kid comes, there are tarasenko and shevchenko and sychuk and so on and so forth they are not ukrainians. they are also ukrainians. that is, it is not ethnic and mixed. we are absolutely all mixed up, so the civil war is always for the image of the future that you think is right, we don’t have a match about this about the image of the future that we consider right artyom, despite the fact that our program is called nothing personal, in fact , the first part. it came out quite a personal matter a political matter. e public and very relevant. now we will ask in the second part of the program and we will talk about it in just a few days.