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. be with belarus 24 tv channel . to see your children and grandchildren alive and well, well, wait for your great-grandchildren my guest is called an enthusiastic hero, and also an eccentric who devotes all his time to his beloved museum and serving his beloved cause. today my guest is the director

of the historical and cultural complex stalin's line alexander broom alexander mikhailovich hello alexander mikhailovich you were born 7 years after the end of the great patriotic war and i remember that then all the boys dreamed of becoming military men, you were no exception. yes, of course not an exception. and vice versa, when all the relatives gathered. they always remembered the war with tears and always said, and we boys envied how they fought us from the war? no, we won’t fight there , we won’t accomplish feats, we won’t accomplish such a childish naivety and dream, but it continued and was called up for military service. and after and from the service he already entered a higher military-political school. so i became a regular military man. now colonel

of delivery, why do you think the generation of the fifties has such a special attitude towards the memory of the war? i would even say special, but this, of course, is a process, because we lived among those who fought those who went through these years of those who were in the occupation of those who and what did you know, uh, were interested in their stories, although they were very stingy, they probably tell and now, uh, remember it was very difficult to learn something and so on. ai fought, well, everything was there, and so on there is something like that. how many they gathered , a small company, a big first, that if only there was no war, just to mention those who died, who fought, who are not there today, but the memory. that's about, those people, she crashed. for the rest of their lives, they really

differ from today's time in that at that time there were eyewitnesses and participants in those events in practice. uh, suffered from the war. with proper speaking, uh was shot forty in the second year, grandfather, whom we did not see so much, was not known for his connection with the partisans, but all the uncles fought in my mother and, uh, brother, uncle. misha is disabled. returned to the balatoni. the new one was torn off. mom was in the occupation and told how she lived with the girl, though also a child. but in general , all the horrors are all these fears. uh, in fact, they didn’t get their memories, they crashed for life, but we each perceived it in our own way. everyone analyzed it in their own way, thinking, now, if i were there, i would take a gun and shoot everyone. you fought in

afghanistan uh now about this war . there are a lot of conflicting opinions, and then it was simply called the fulfillment of international duty. yes, yes, right now , after the passage of time. and how do you perceive these events to interpret these events, and today there are millions of interpretations. and in fact, in discord, some admire others. eh, they say something didn't need a third. we are all on this question. what kind of officers, how soldiers cannot answer , we were following the order of the motherland, we were ordered. we were on a combat mission because otherwise the army does not exist. this is not caused by an order, and we took an oath, that is, we accepted a military enterprise. uh, they swore an oath that we would fulfill

the dignity of the honor entrusted to us, it was about 140 km to the place of deployment, and i immediately saw all the charm of the military. hmm. as they say, roads of military life and remember the first battle, why they are all, as they say in memory. most the main thing in war, as they say, do not get confused. strictly speaking, it is not to get lost by starvation itself. this is because you have to make a decision. well, yes, he remembers. so, when you go on the eve of the battle. here, well, we are still there, not that the front line stood and, uh, you know, here, if you mean here.

if he left the front line, it means that it’s already calm there, and at any moment we could fly by and , as they say, a projectile with a bullet and, in fact, even when calm, and when we go to the fighting, when you wait, where the catch is, from anywhere and actually and ambush and others. moreover, they did not take the afghans down, the battles were protracted or they somehow hit the colony. wait, it's time to get in the car. and several soldiers were killed. there, all the ditches were tearing themselves up, then it’s a shame when comrades died, when soldiers died , especially young ones, well, when you were with you . they just walked literally from their absence, and many films were shot in afghanistan, most of them. e perceive the war precisely by artistic pictures, in your opinion. uh, feature films truly reflect the

reality of those events, you know artistic is artistic. uh, if you shoot just uh, like this without any artistic imagination of any intention. uh, you're just concentrating. eh, it won't be a movie. it will just be. well, some report. yes, so what? well, because uh cinema everything is as they say, and truth and fiction are now mixed, but it is still a war. it's still somewhere. eh, maybe it wasn’t all this with this hero, but he is credited with saying that, exactly, he went through everything there, or let’s even say money, because the feature film is all feature movie. do you yourself like films about afghanistan, for example, the brotherhood of long gen, the ninth company of fyodor bondarchuk, that you can tell me about them, any film about afghanistan , of course, reminds you of it was e and, of course, they

all like what you used to call the truth there or not true. uh, maybe not all, really. maybe not everything was like that, but the essence is the same people fought perished. e, defended, as they say, honor and dignity. uh, because judging it for that is, well, just stupid. i think, yes, i understand. what is the most terrible memory of both of us. well i want you to say the most terrible thing is when, after all, death, comrades, because it’s well, it remains for life, and because it’s just like we are sitting talking, then suddenly here, after a while there in an hour or two. this man did not have a soldier carrying, to which 1.5 m. it seems that he is in one hand, what

is left of him. and this, of course, will never be forgotten. you are good, remember the school curriculum, refresh it in your memory. young intellectuals will help you. is it true that this engraving depicts a chinese philosopher confucius by registration just by passport. and when you were at the construction site, you can avoid it only if you give the right answers, who saved the lives of babies roma emul she-wolves are very fond of, when the tower falls we are very disliked, when all my questions are answered

correctly, the brain can be in the company of belarusian athletes, where they passed the first games and the countries of the cis but intuitively look at intellectual projects. your rationalization proposals are legendary. what kind of miracle weapon did you invent during the war in afghanistan in afghanistan i just noticed, that in the same place we are beaten, dushmans, moreover, they are constantly not what is there. e, as they say, they tied up and killed everyone. here it would be to store it,

for example, a sergeant commands a guard with him there five six soldiers. so they killed the sergeant. there two set fire to the car and enough counts. this is the column, went. uh, 2-3 cars or fuel trucks or with ammunition and removed a couple of words from the river, here. well, in the same place. i say, let's put the mortars, as soon as we put the mortar everywhere is mined, so that while you put turn around. let's put a mortar on the car. let's tell you, come on, well, i went and took the mortar from the goose. i took it off from uh, put it on the machine from zu-23 from my standard machine, it turned out 360 °, uh, it spins at any moment. you can point at any point at any moment. as a matter of fact, uh, especially since he is a cluster- loader, that is, he collected all the mines. uh,

i put the battery only as it was on duty and went to the combat and when we started with you. well, they hit with this mortar. so a joke once the guys called netlan. well i don't offended. after returning from afghanistan , it was difficult to integrate into ordinary life. so you understand that this is a completely different life and what you did in afghanistan uh, people don’t understand, it seems there is something you think that it is i want to say that uh, military, when you are at war there you uh you make decisions , you are liberated, you are responsible for the main thing for this, it is like less losses and how to give more results. uh, it still works, but moderate time. it's already , uh, a fear-mongering everywhere of something, it seems too much and it was very difficult for the afghans. i know many experts who, well, after

afghanistan left the troops. and you had to endure, uh, ptsd. uh, personally, i didn't have to go through anything. the only thing that i survived two shell shocks with this most moderate severity. uh, i had a failed right kidney, and i was lying unconscious for four days, especially from the afghan war, and we did not trump anywhere. this is the same me until 2002, in fact , i did not specifically announce myself. and when in 2002 he created a fund, memory, the spirit was opened. yes you that fought, and you something was there a syndrome it was not. well, there was a memory and how this desire is something to support one's e against the enemy. i know that you support your former colleagues. we continue to work and help. what can we do with what requests

it turns to you most often these are different requests are different. now we've got it set up. one afghan, who had a very difficult fate, how he fought, uh, in afghanistan passed him , i won’t have awards, but a moderate life didn’t work out and uh was convicted and lost. and when i returned home and life was nowhere, by essence. eh, the man lived like a dugout. and so we strained to ask the ryspolkom, and in the village with the crown. uh, and he singled out the house. uh, from renting a house. we will check the order furnished. well, the man is alive now. this is what we do, to whom the walk-behind tractor was given to someone, to someone they decided the issue of just medicine. we are such an ordinary job, because

what draws it helps. what we can, of course, is not unlimited, and maybe not for everyone. sometimes people even get offended and think that they helped one. why do they help me think you're kind of like? eh? do you owe social security? you have some financial resources, and the funds are those that we , as we asked, or, well, we donate a donation, and as a donation - we spend it , we account for every penny of these donations. that is, if we received money, we read a penny for each and where it was spent. we tell everything about the sports life of the country, two world cup medals were brought by belarusians from baku

, firstly, a very high level, when you play there, you get simply invaluable experience, therefore, when you join the national team, you are already a little bit seasoned, one might say, hardened reviews of the most interesting events. we participated in a colorful race. actually. it's wonderful, when we started to start, the paints opened, that is, everything together. we are all so beautiful all the happy opinions of the competent experts in the cube. now we need it in order to wedge in, let's say, the qualification system, we are going to show that we are belarusian. we stand basketball. he has his own face, and we will deal with this and not only look in sports projects on tv channel belarus 24. a step to distort the average belarusian, he will always sort out provocative details and answers to the challenges

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you have two military formations. and they would have graduated from the cultural enlightenment school. it must be admitted that it is an unusual combination. you already assumed then that you would create a museum of education school. uh, civilian life ended. this is after the army, and military military schools are also, uh, cultural and educational work. actually. e, was engaged in. this is a higher military education. uh, i cooked for a cult worker, but uh, a museum. i never dreamed. he appeared cleanly, as they say hmm well, by accident. but it is interesting how the idea of ​​​​the complex appeared. the very museum and swallowed us up to support its opening. but we've

already supported this one. there, with shooting from the germans with everyone, well, the reconstruction became interested. well such a mini, uh, head of state something like that, what kind of shooting, what what? well, yes, they made a fuss, but i had to explain that we were on the stalin line, which line, where stalin, which existed from the korean isthmus to the black sea, was not on the territory. well, the second, where he has molotov, who began to build and unfinished, and by force the same fate as, of course, the stalin line, if , uh, the germans stopped on it, they composed songs and sang poems. that's tragedy. she was forgotten forgotten by those who defended we offered here. uh, to recreate the line of defense, at least a small section, as the defense was built,

they took one section. uh, not even the best, but one had merit. that that the driveway was a road. uh on molodechennaya passed right through this area. well , what happened, what happened today. this is already a brand of belarus and, uh, recognizable people go there from not only belarus but also from near and far abroad. and it's true that in your office e hangs with us, on which it is written. if not you, then who else if you are who the motto, i have already been asked, it may be with the paratrooper there nobody but us and so on. well, like when we got together, uh with the guys, well, we need some kind of motto, uh. coy, well, there were a lot of proposals then. here is

such a capacious one that everyone picked up and agreed. well, if you don’t want, you don’t want, and what will know for me is the motto that if you can do something, and for sure not everyone understands your enthusiasm and not everyone supports it. how does your family feel about the fact that you are constantly at work my family this applies positively. they are having support. my wife, my sons and grandchildren. they live this life, too, they understand that the grandfather is doing something useful, and therefore they don’t have any particular claims, and the youngest granddaughter is always reconstructed, if not tarka or whom the sons are at risk, i especially have support. so sasha took over everything. when you ask how e, we do reconstruction, many people ask a question. and who is the director of this

reenactment, and who is the director, and who, uh, is it all rolled into one, and the screenwriter and director-director's son. uh, here's the last one time before. i'm alexander mikhailovich well , this is hmm uh, the devotee herself gave back. of course, it doesn't come without sacrifice. what sacrifices do you have to make for the cause. well, i want to say big sacrifices. no. uh , thank god we always uh, we have one thought with all these reconstruction problems. uh , first of all, safety, because everything is so beautiful, everything is understandable, but it is fraught with great difficulties, and to say that we are sacrificing something there. we just do our job quietly. do you like someone not like. this is another question. although to say that this also did not go

unnoticed, he was nevertheless awarded, er, and with two orders. this is in peacetime. and this is a premium weapon. that is, uh, accounting is also estimated. i am grateful to the head of state for that support, because without him we would not have raised the stalin line complex is different from the usual museums, where you can’t make noise and touch the exhibits with your hands. you have everything exactly the opposite. tell us what rules you have. we conceived it this way, because this is not a memorial museum. we understand, what is khatyn, what is the brest fortress and all that, the mound of glory with us? i mean, it's educational. uh, you know the history of creation, uh, get acquainted with weapons and equipment. to rest just to sit and as they say, uh everyone when

a family comes, everyone will see their interest in it. uh, and we are pleased that the technical school can ride on equipment, you can shoot at least with their blank cartridges, but the person wants to. eh, to feel the dacha , to feel this roar of battle. i know that you are constantly replenishing the museum fleet various retro cars, and each and the exhibit has its own stories. hmm. what is the most interesting entertaining story? well, i want to tell you, uh, any equipment that no longer exists, in fact, uh , restored or refurbished under real conditions of restoration, is, well, the property of history. we have, let's say there. dt seventh , he was thirty-fifth year of release, he was on a honk on a holding, he fought longer and in the forty

-first year they drowned a crime in a swamp so that the guys would not get it, they got it restored and now he was on the move, a participant of several pleased, you saw and earphones on wheels. this is a wheeled duck. there are no such tanks anymore. now the t-50 tank has been restored. this is also a rare tank , there were only about a hundred of them released today, when the reconstruction is underway. we have up to 15 units of various vehicles on the field. and we started what, god forbid, some kind of improvised tank. release the t-6 and the most floating pt-76 was portrayed by the germans, what else could we do, and today we have enough about 20 units, only retro e. the armored vehicles that can go out and famous and on the move are the latest t-26 tank, they

are nowhere to be found in this tank, on which once the father had to join the battle. well, there is a memory , there is this one. there is something to show people alexander mikhailovich your museum has competitors, although, speaking of historical memory , is it possible to talk about such concepts as business profit competition. you know that i don't consider anyone a competitor at all. if a person wants to do it there, uh, somewhere. well, there are, we already have cases when they restored it there in sanka, this one, and so on. i take this positively. uh, people just want it. let them do it. it will still respond favorably, someone will look there, someone will look at us, we are all

ours, well, there are some analogues of the stalin line. well, such, uh, in principle, there are no such complexes. uh, the fact that a park was made there near moscow. it's self, but it's completely different this is a public day. this is of course, this is done on a grand scale and with another goal the patriots have in mind, he, well, we don’t have anyone consider competitors. we do our thing. uh, if someone can do better, let them do it, we'll just be happy for them. uh, until recently, the topic of war for the modern generation was something very far from the category of pages from a history textbook, but the situation in the world dictates its own conditions according to your observations. has the interest of young people in military history changed now, well?