tv [untitled] BELARUSTV July 18, 2023 1:05pm-2:06pm MSK
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train part and being near the road , new information from my colleagues at 15:00 on our air. all the best. they chose a path atypical for many and passed sufficient tests. i was sure that i would not do this. i was 100% sure, and now i even tried to quit a couple of times, because, well, i like it. there were just answers well , 10 percent is just the answer that we considered, but the manuscript did not fit for some reason. and most importantly, in order to reveal the uniqueness and become the best in the business should make it so that
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people see. the work is a fake, that scania from wood is not this anywhere else in the world. it seems to me the right and only time to go into writing. it's not with the idea. i want to keep my book in my hands or make money on it. and when you can't help but write a project to break stereotypes for someone, maybe yes, i'm breaking down to lose, like, but for myself. i just watch it on belarus 24 tv channel. we welcome
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everyone who is now happy to see guests with us. we are waiting for the inclusion from moscow today it turns out. so there is no doubt about justice. this is true about the relevance of 2020 showed that among us were those people who did not share, not our values, nor our aspirations, respectively, they are at the same time, being the conductors of someone else's ideology in our society. they didn't create
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much, let's say. a good environment among our people and at the same time enjoyed all the benefits that our state gives, that is, there were enemy elements inside , let's call it that, it's time for society realized what is needed today where we are moving. e, i realized the value of what we have and what we have, and probably found the mechanism that allows us to differentiate people who are ready to live in this society, develop it and find new vectors of development. and that valve is a mechanism for protecting our society from external and internal influences, this is this law. probably it should be said, especially to those of our viewers. who is watching us in russia outside of belarus did not delve into the clauses of this law there, that there is no
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automatic direct deprivation, if the mechanism and notice the opportunity to consider danism. uh, the first is such a person who must live abroad for a long time, the second is those persons who, in principle, in legal terms , are cut off from our state. these are the people and it is important to emphasize that they have committed any destructive actions. uh, to put it simply, crimes against national security are felonies, and, uh, acts of terrorism. this is mercenarism and this is the sovereign. on treason it and in a circle encroached on the integrity of our state by constitutional construction, a call for sanctions, of course, and this mechanism will be quite serious, firstly, a necessary court decision. e in the court decision. of course
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, all the dots will already be dotted over and either this or that person will be recognized or not recognized. it, that is, in the commission of certain grave crimes against national security , and the decision to deprive citizenship will be made by the head of state. yes indeed. uh, today a person who even received citizenship of the republic of belarus by birth. it can deprive him, but if you do not respect your state, you do not respect your constitution, you do not follow the laws of the country , you allow such actions to be illegal. well , it means you make your own choice. and, by the way, there is nothing new here because in many. countries , including democratic ones, as they call themselves in european countries, also have the possibility of deprivation of citizenship, for example, in the same austria, germany, spain, they are deprived of citizenship. if you work in another state in the public service or military service, you are already automatically deprived citizenship is such a person and there is nothing
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to worry about. we just set the accents, but for us today it is important that we form a civil society in this difficult time. and it is important for us that this civil society be healthy, that our citizens , the state and civil society. well, that is, citizens, every citizen were protected, so that our state really developed steadily and there was stability. for this we do. i understand that i understand, having looked at the points of this law, that in general you need to try hard. here strongly, just like that to kick the lord so that they start you. in general, the process of depriving you of citizenship is unconditional. this will not really be put on stream on the conveyor. you rightly said, it is very much necessary to spoil. here is the same tsekhanovskaya, right? tell us, let's say, what kind of mercy, even in general, was from our state, she was allowed to leave after what she had done here in august. twentieth year. well, sit and be quiet, tell me. well, if you don't thank me, then at least just keep quiet. yes, i
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understand that this is a talking head. i understand, that it does not mean anything, but at the same time, if you opened your mouth, then you must understand the consequences of your statements against the state according to klinovsky. but what does she understand, so that the citizens do not have anything complicated. the first committed a crime the court decision entered into force. we offer you to come, executing court decisions. you are a citizen. you have not only rights, but also obligations, the obligation to comply with the decision of a lawful court, did not come here and refused to comply with the decision. we all deprive you why do we deprive, why do we need a leaf, for example, which for several years has been three years already? soon in the gabile of his country. at first they called for means to rob a socially unprotected group to impose sanctions. now they are calling to shoot, that is, to bomb, the city of minsk gives a whole series of sheets to roll because it does not call on its own country to attack the drg, sabotage reconnaissance groups, or bomb our capital. well, what are we going
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to do with them? why do we need such people, for example , to include in the political process. but would when, as a deputy in parliament, they were considering something of a bill, yes, the changes that we are discussing with you now. here is the inner motivation. it is clear that you pass through yourself to analyze and facts and ask yourself a question. why these changes should be made right now, you know, i would like to draw attention, including to our viewers, to the accuracy that was formulated there not by deprivation of citizenship, but by loss of citizenship. this is a completely different and legal and really meaning, that is people with their active anti-state actions and actions. anything directed against the belarusian people leads to the fact that such decisions will be made against them. yes, this entry into force of a court verdict is also important. that is , uh, the investigation of a criminal case - this is a trial entry. eh, in force. uh,
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the decision of the court of the verdict of the court in relation to this citizen being abroad, or either the enormous harm that he causes. uh, the republic of belarus as well. there is also written the norms of the law that if a person is in military service, occupies a public position of some public position in a foreign state, then this is also the basis for the loss of citizenship. but it is natural that this addition to this law will be discussed in the working groups and in the oval hall. we said that there will be more procedures. exactly how this loss uh, procedurally will be carried out. we have a commission on citizenship issues under the president of the republic of belarus, where documents are prepared accordingly and commission with the participation of representatives , e and heads of the presidential administration
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of the ministry of departments of the deputy corps, there the whole composition is indicated by the president e, before submitting to the decision of the head of state , all these grounds will be filtered again and checked again. it's like granting citizenship such loss of citizenship, because, in my opinion, more than detailed. we talked about this further, who are interested can read the laws. although i believe that this law is narrowly special, it is only for those who really tried very hard to harm the state. so he needs to study this law for all other citizens to live in peace, you are not even interested. with this thread, she's definitely wrong. the topic of security, let's talk about it globally. moreover, in this sense, a lot of things threaten us. this, of course, was the nato summit that started in vilnius, some kind of unhealthy, excitement this time, they started talking about it for a long time somewhere absolutely objectively. it deserves to be screwed up somewhere, but, for example, why doesn't he tell us about this? if perishing as something, well, too close to us. here vadim,
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it is not by chance that they chose several aspects closer to the borders of the union state. first, it means that they naturally show that we are here nearby , they are requesting a permanent deployment, not a rotational official deployment, a reinforced grouping , troops, a nation at our borders, this is on purpose so that it shows we are here, we are nearby, we are nearby and they, well, at the same time, it’s scary, judging by how they guarded vilnius, how many security cars are ready to lock everyone up, you understand, they are there on the outskirts, it is not visible. everything is carried out not in the very center. so, in essence, the first issue here is the membership of ukraine is speculation. i just want to understand that everything is happening separately, let's talk, but so that what is happening regarding this issue, no one, let's say, plans to do it yet, because no one is interested in ukraine, so to speak, and for the omnipotent moment , stop these military actions
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demonstrate what they will nevertheless, no matter how much we would not like to bring. this one here is a special us military provocation in europe before at least political processes in the russian federation for 24 years. why it doesn’t supply weapons. that’s what nato is discussing completely and quickly; they need to fill up this mess, the boiler, to keep the fire going so that it doesn’t boil away, it’s not even profitable for them, so that it’s not russia or ukraine that won the decisive victory because it’s, well, on some e fields battles because it is to force yourself to the negotiating table. and they need to destabilize the region. it is natural to understand that this is a threat and both. our answer asymmetric, but to understand that we will be destroyed from within in uh. well, let's talk about nato in more detail, we'll discuss it very close to us. and we are one way or another, then the whole world is involved in what they were discussing there yesterday and today they continue long before themselves, kiev began to repeat the mantra the essence of which they take us to nato if they don’t take it, then, firstly,
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this not like a man, and secondly, zelensky was then offended and it is clear that he did not come with his foot, but he arrived, although it was already before the start. it is clear that they don’t take german even before the nato meeting buildings reported the united states and germany blocked ukraine's entry into nato, that is, first they inspired zelensky, then they land him on the other side. didn’t he understand that no one takes or where he got it from? this is the idea that this topic can be relevant at all, why it arose nikolaevich here zelensky is a wonderful manipulator and a very good actor any information occasion in their interests. he is very good at it, it turns out himself he would have replayed, he was sure that his bet would play out. what a player who clearly understood that at the moment he is a real
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tool in the hands of the euro-atlantic union to weaken russia to destabilize the situation in this region and he had many advantages, because well, everything he asked for was what he demanded they gave him everything. pay attention to weapons of various types, starting there from zhivins, ending with airplanes. we have discussed before. in this same studio a year ago where the question was asked. will the planes be given them and in the near future there will be more of them. this is not the point. the fact is that the reorganization of the world is underway, there is a real process of restoring a multipolar world, and ukraine has been chosen as a tool by the west in order to prevent this from happening today , the reality is this. and zelensky believed in his, so to speak, exclusivity that he can, and he knows how to manipulate, certain hmm information flows, and to
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some extent zelensky, uh, practically convinced himself and convinced a large piece of people or society, including foreign society , that without him he would go nowhere and this allowed him, including convincing himself that he would achieve this decision within nato from interesting and at the same time disturbing messages the day before macron said that the bet decided to transfer long-range missiles to ukraine for, as he again explained, support for the apu offensive, the kremlin reacted to peskov's quote. naturally. this will force us to take countermeasures. this topic has been discussed several times already, at first i spoke about it great britain gave the same missiles the same yes, yes, this is in terms of its range in terms of its characteristics. they are comparable. after that, the same step was taken, france did it. not
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because she wants this to the macron, it is necessary to show its importance in europe, it must show that it is no worse than great britain here. mm struggle for power in european. uh, let's say in the theater that it is stronger than germany , including france is fighting germany for leadership and so on, but this is nothing more. what , again, is an informational stuffing on this one wave to show how great we are, that we are ready to go to the end, and so on. no more than that, they will give rockets, we will already talk about this and dali and they will give and give everything that can be included everything that shoots everything that explodes will be delivered to ukraine not immediately about it. we have already said that it is necessary to carry out the sequence of aggression, the peak will be when there is some kind of hacking, the situation in russia will be as soon as it will stagger, if that is, it is clear that if russia now inflicted a crushing defeat, which alexander grigoryevich spoke about e during you put down the main divisions there, which are still in reserve. of course, this, uh, would force kiev to
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negotiate and not the fact that after reaching an agreement. it would not restart the situation after some time, but at the current moment they are waiting for the x hour when the maximum impact. if now they are probing a gap in the defense, and here are these cluster munitions that will be transferred by the united states. america , we'll probably talk about it later. it's like why in the first place to break through the defense. here is the military military commissariat. in this case , he, uh, if you read his telegram channel, referring to which he is on the front lines there, claims that he is already being hit by the very announced cluster bombs. that is, they are already there, according to the people who are there with ivan ivanovich . no wonder they gave it and were afraid, how do you evaluate or overheated? i believe that what is the complexity of the situation for nato and why such expectations were from the summit on the part of ukraine because yes, zelensky is an actor, but the most important thing in his position is not acting, but
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pure business, so he, in addition to the fact that he is also an actor and a businessman, says, well, he does business in politics. and what is the policy of ukraine, it is a weapon and a spearhead against russia, namely the west, what is the hat from the position of nato , now it needs to make such decisions so as not to get into it and i consciously say this word not to get into the third world war and continue the fire. the confrontation is, uh, with russia in the form of a special military operation and hostilities in ukraine, therefore, ukraine needs to be supported to ensure that this escalation continues and continues in the right direction. yes, there were hopes that there would be some successes here, there are no successes, except for the seven villages that they liberated, according to them , about which there are actually no, which are in a vulnerable position. eh, because they captured the lowlands. they are just
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settlements of the square, and now the war is not going on because of the square, therefore the program maximum of the west what is it to destroy russia and right? the point of view was said here that it is necessary to create conditions for the internal collapse of russia and when the events took place, uh, on the twenty-third. e june, yes, then a certain hope that it had begun, but they just didn’t have time very quickly, it was all alkalized, therefore, in essence. what is now, what happened and is happening now in reality a little over a year ago, when we introduced a visa-free regime in relations. uh, the baltic states, uh, after some time poland. i here quoted the words of a simple citizen of lithuania who is from belarus by nationality originally there there, and he said, what is different er. in the west in lithuania from belarus, he says that in belarus you have here trying to make a person out of any fool. in our country,
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on the contrary, they make a fool out of a person. so, what is the point of vilnius itself, that they made a fool out of ukraine, not only from ukraine , i’ll tell you as an anecdote what is happening at the summit, which means, uh, local residents in lithuania noticed that old trolleybuses disappeared from the streets of vilnius 160 even czechoslovak production in the eighties appeared on the street like this, but all the same, i wanted to show that the country is still ok, this is still the norm , new equipment has appeared, but the lithuanians themselves are not outraged by such window dressing and a couple of examples of what and how they reflect on damn please, and why should we hide that we are a poor country, and the grass will be painted ashamed, even while reading, why hide what is ordinary why do you need to look better? more beautiful than you are, in fact. you think that no one knows anything, that the world's millionaires do not know how lithuanians live. what a terrible backwardness everywhere
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a shame. so close pensioners with the poor, otherwise it will spoil the image of boasting. well, by the way, right away, when you look at this, the picture is set on his complex. the main thing is to like this byte, probably, the logic is like that. you know complexes. maybe he is a modest person, but i would like to say that he knows something to me, so that he would probably turn out for his colleague for zelensky, he would show everything here and ask for money, but the fathers like this in this way. yes, behind such a facade hides, indeed, the true problem of the country. and we we know that if your leaving a lot of people there are not enough jobs, the economy is not very good, maybe you should have thought about your citizens to show problems to concentrate, of course, of course, they now have a completely different problem they are. through their binoculars they see the enemy, the union state, for them we are enemies. although historically we have always lived side by side and could be wonderful neighbors,
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yes, russia and so on. well, we'll live and see. but speaking of samoyet, if you 'll let me hmm well, somewhere like that warmed the soul that in the communiqué it was written that, and today the alliance does not seek confrontation with russia it also seems to me such a signal that the third world war. we do not want we are not idiots. uh, vadim said that they don’t want negotiations, yes, that is, they can’t allow negotiations between russia and ukraine , you know who knows him today? look, no matter how there was a counteroffensive. it well, there are no obvious results that the alliance was waiting for from ukraine, they are not there, what will happen? tomorrow we don't know, uh, i'm certainly not a military man expert but analyzing the opinion of military experts. i think that this is not a long-range weapon, which has already been additionally provided to france
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, not cluster weapons. ah, ammo. they won't decide anything on the battlefield. yes, there will simply be more victims, there will be more trouble today. uh, maybe, uh, the united states of america wants to save face somewhere. you understand, if suddenly russia wins, but suddenly who loses america and no, there are guarantees that ukraine will win. and today there are two options, either we play for a long time, and then we'll see, or before the twenty-fourth year. still , you need to think and come up with some option on how to get out of this situation in america. still, it's more beautiful, it seems to be not playing and at the same time, in order to somehow change this situation a little, but let's live and see. after all, what does the president say today that let's sit down at the negotiating table. and even in principle, it assumes that such negotiations between russia and ukraine will be possible. autumn
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, i would really like it to be the first. naturally. i am a supporter of alexander's position lukashenka, from the first day we are supporters of negotiations, but i want to tell you this, any military specialist, uh, and any such project that has been prepared for more than one, not one year. there are several scenarios, practically there are, scenario, cover-ups and so on. and both russian and american ideologists are ready to justify everything with them. if it is necessary to explain any event, they have already learned how to manipulate the mass consciousness from all sides, so let's get down to business. now what will happen? as i think, naturally, we will contribute to the maximum in negotiations, the question is what contractual position the parties will have if your contractual position is e, unbalanced and one of the parties is dissatisfied. they will leave you a minus of the windward action. well, that's right, the sooner we sit down and stop the b- collision. it will be better anyway, but in my opinion, the task of the united states of america is not for nato to unite this whole group of more than thirty states
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as one whole - these are different groups. there are major interests. this is the usa their allies, canada and that means e. well, they are, respectively , great britain. here they are, on this now, they are heating their pens. there is an impact force. ukraine has a reserve. this is primarily in poland in the first place. poland is the one who pays the bills, it's europe to pay. this whole concert is not paid by the us europe and the us are interested in creating the appearance that they are interested in stabilizing this situation. once again i say to drag out the conflict, at least until the political campaign of 24 years in russia, pump the situation from the inside, not a single country in the world can find itself indefinitely in a state of constant mobilization. now they have them what kind of world are they their first task. look at 58% of the world's reserves in the dollar indirect direct calculations 88% of the world's calculations
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in the dollar. and they kept all this. thanks to this military operation, they took control of the energy of the european union, which are not idiots, or what? why stop it? therefore, they will only stop if they see an immediate threat. i have been saying all this for a year and a half, until they feel threatened. they will be here tilt europe and push e ukraine into the ashes of war. unfortunately, and we must do everything to ensure that this is what my colleague is talking about about bringing negotiations to the table, the more time passes we see, it's really impossible to disagree with what we see in all hmm action west and the supply of cluster munitions before that. this is with combined uranium and so on and so forth, they need ukraine as a military base under the guise of the state to double assistance. why should you put it next? we'll listen to the president now. how further, the further it goes. this situation, the less promising the discussion about peace becomes for ukraine, the president spoke about this. they asked him questions. foreign journalists asked about it. as you can see the situation, here is a small fragment of what
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the president answered today from ukraine, you can talk and reach some kind of peace agreements. i mean, not so much belarus e as russia she will talk after the so-called counter offensive. the situation will change and will they want to talk to you zelensky reinforced concrete they said we will support you , we will arm you, we will give you as much money as you need and we will never leave you, and then zelensky appeared, his wings flew. what's going on? now he finally understood that he would not win this war. we can be different, if our
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future is at stake, some will suffer, others will enjoy, but everyone will get a result. any medal has two sides, even a medal for feats of peaceful valor implies self-sacrifice to achieve a common goal such people such valiant people are unique there are among us, but if an emergency happens, you need to talk to people about where the problem happened, what and what is being done to eliminate it, this is a big policy , important, but complex and where . igor tur's view of the main events in the country and the international arena, see the project on belarus 24 tv channel. there is also a
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nato summit, it is being discussed now. we will soon know what happened there today, but the situation. in another me personally as a person who deals, in general, with geopolitical geostratic issues , was very much hurt by the topic of the escalation of tension. it can be traced in all decisions, especially in the joint decision of nato. please note that today they are no longer talking about europe, not the north atlantic space. they talk about world space and as one of their prospects, let's say, er. the opponents are called china and china is completely on the other side. so let's say our large eurasian continent. what does it say about that no one is going to, uh, stop using the force factor in political battles. this is the first moment of the second moment.
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it is clear in the nato joint statement that there is a clause that says that the option of getting out of the political situation proposed by whom ukraine is supported, that it says this will return everything to normal again and a nato member will appear next to the russian federation with the appropriate infrastructure, appropriate training, which will continue to pursue that policy, the expansion and destruction of everything russian, that has been throughout all these years. the third point as for, again , no one is talking about the prospects for the near future. about how we are now discussing the issue of the negotiation process, the peace process. they don't talk about it. they condemn belarus and russia for hosting nuclear weapons. they talk about going back to everything that's been fucked up for a long time. sorry to everyone they say
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they need to be concerned about what's going on here, but no one talks about we stop supplying weapons. this is the main the point to be discussed today. even if they already have enough. well, its reserves are small, in fact, compared to what it was, they were sure that this would be enough to bring russia to its knees in order to destabilize the situation in russia and to ensure that russia's internal coup in another once destroyed their state. and this was the main calculation and is not removed. he continues the issue of the game in a long year for them - it's called pah. it's perfect the conversation is not long about the five-year period, maybe for decades they are ready for this, because as soon as the ukrainian events end. god forbid, in their opinion, in the interests of russia
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, russia will solve its strategic tasks. everything will fall down the whole world based on the rules. they know about it, they connect topics, but against all this background, we touched on the college in fragments of a press conference. it doesn’t even look ridiculous when foreign journalists during an interview again talked about the last dictator. on the road. journalists reuters. and so i want to ask, are you kidding me or something, one goes to john's concert when paris is on fire, the second endlessly freaks out publicly experiencing dementia. here it is again. let's see the canoe for the wedge is not working. bye, how about this? oh well, most importantly, both do not care that someone may not like it. macron, biden, zelensky notices lukashenka at some point. you have to apologize to me today no. i'm not a dictator and if
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the dictator is not the last, well, while we all hide it from batin, the old trolleybuses macron. he himself hides from the wrath of the people, he is lukashenko in the shops, mogilev is left-handed and talks about earthly things about the development of production markets. i mean, that's exactly what he meant. here is vladimir alexandrovich alexander lukashenko when he said that life without war is the result of painstaking daily work, firstly, lukashenko does not reign. he serves the people and the country. this is proved by the results of that 29-year term, which he received the country 29 years ago, when law enforcement agencies wiped their feet. at us in the center of the capital, under a collapsed fence, stood the palace of the republic, next to it, collapsed the kupalovsky theater economy on the shoulder blades, pensioners are queuing for groceries, and today we are the
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first in the world according to a number of un indices. the cis between the upper strata of society, so to speak, the wealthy and the less explainable strata are all issues of national security and stability. so this is the kind of country we are building, power is built on the following principles. it is money and resources is power. and this is uh, consent in society, social stability, for which lukashenka says that we want peace, let's work qualitatively if we do not have a strong economy. we will not have the funds to buy the necessary or produce the necessary resources. we will not have the means to provide and support the power bloc and we will not cut off in order to maintain socio-political stability, so we are cowards uh-huh keep peace in lukashenka power they will do everything that is possible two comparisons even before our eyes. we've discussed this before. and now we are discussing what is happening here. we see that there he gathers this nato team and hides
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the old trolleybus instead of dealing with problems. and here. after all, we, too , could write off a lot of internal issues to the fact that we really need to spend more on the army to ensure security due to external social finiteness. not before and the president would have been sitting there from morning until evenings somewhere in the headquarters and dealt with the situation belongs to the national groups trust. all of this we can not even discuss with them already. all clear. what was it for, so that citizens understand, we introduce here. so take a tactical separate weapon here. in order , among other things, to spend less money on confidential weapons. that is, we can apply an asymmetric response and this allows us to stretch in time. uh, re-equipping our armed forces strengthening our group, but they know what's here today you can't climb. we have such weapons that can cause serious damage to them, and speaking of our security. we are talking about ours, we have kept the peace on belarusian soil. not one belarusian soldier has set foot on a foreign land during the time of independence. uh,
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it was for the conduct of the war for the peacekeeping functions that there were injections, and we , as, uh, a member of the csto, were in kazakhstan. they went out and provided assistance, but we see what what what is the essence of these decisions that should be made they made a decision regarding ukraine what all are against us all the decisions they made against us a decision there to increase by half, er, military aid for the supply of weapons. it plays against us. they shortened the path to nato for ukraine . and most importantly, they decided that they would accept ukraine into nato when the hostilities were over, when the fighting was going on. and we are not interested in this, and russia is also not interested in fighting . and when we agree, well, russia will agree, and there will be a truce with ukraine , it will become a country and nato is also playing against us, that is, not a single decision
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regarding us and the union state belarus and russia are not accepted into nato. that is, they are working for escalation, therefore, what is important for us to ensure our national security in all areas, including the economic one, and why the president now and mogilev lift mash pos-e visits both fields and farms, because we are export-oriented state there will be no economic component, you alone correctly said we will not have everything else, therefore we not only must support our economy, but we must maintain and develop the opportunity for growth not only in economically and politically and culturally and as a nation. we must develop, we have achieved a lot. during the time of our independence, we have built a sovereign country . and the main task in the message is clearly formulated to preserve the sovereignty and independence of the belarusian state. and what do we need to do to do this. we understand everything. we need to make sure
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that we have stability in society, that we develop further, that, uh, we improve as a nation. we have everything for this, we have a nuclear power plant, we have space flew. we have something to be proud of, but we must further develop them to hide buses. look, the formula sounded in mogilev from the president is the lack of discipline. what alexander ivanovich is talking about is the lack of discipline - this is a failure failure this war all starts with the economy, therefore nato nato but it needs to be like this, as this is the formula that the president proposed or voiced in principle, he has been voiced for a decade. note. you watch the president's speech. here for the last at least five years. before that, 10 years is possible, because this is the main thing, if there is stability, if there is understanding , if there is responsibility at any level from the lowest to the highest , there are states, if there is a state, there are
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appropriate forces to ensure national security, there are appropriate resources for development and formation and, probably, stable stable development of the state. and here i would like to draw attention to another phrase. after all, the president says not only national security depends on everyone, but also development of the country. this is true. we have a people's state. there is a powerful spike between the authorities and the people, so we are still alive and developing, and i would probably add such a postulate to this, if we weren’t interfered with. we would no longer know at what level of development belarus would be if we were not forced to turn to incomprehensible neighbors to nato , which are constantly rattling outwards, and all this resource was directed to the development of the state. today we have here no worse than in the emirates
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was. and maybe better than marina yes, you know, i 'll support nikolai ognevich, the president really speaks about this, clearly and understandably. and you can even cite a couple of his such, uh, capacious statements, and stop there. here is his favorite. get undressed and work, work, do everything, and give me the economy everything else. i will do for you. he really stressed that the economy is very important , it will develop, we will have everything and we will have a pension, we will have, uh, wages. oh, our country will develop. you know, despite all the difficulties we face today, despite the unprecedented ones. uh, sanctions pressure. i, unfortunately, forgot. and whose statistics were those, but the statistics were foreign and belarus got into the top 10 countries, yes, the top 10 countries for hmm yes, moving from life, you understand, among canada there is
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the eighth world, in my opinion, british. i just wanted to emphasize what kind of boundary statistics this means, so we are doing everything right, but of course we must go ahead and work and understand that we must and it is very important to do this. and of course, do not relax today is the time. thank you very much for, uh, participation in our program, in general, the program itself is still going on in a couple of minutes, another interlocutor. today we have russian political scientist sergei mikheev so see you. thank you very much, the russian political scientist sergey mikheev sergey alexandrovich is in touch with us hello, let's start with the topic, perhaps, which , apparently , foreign journalists recently tried to torture the belarusian president by placing tactical nuclear weapons in belarus. well, there in the interests of our alexander lukashenko's country, in general,
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said everything, but what tasks does russia solve in this way well, as far as i see it. yes, i cannot answer, so to speak, for the whole of russia , the russian authorities. but as far as i can see, this is, in general, a forced measure. yes, that is uh here to think. e, what does it mean, moscow has dreamed of placing nuclear weapons there in belarus and moving them to the territory, so to speak, e to another state. well, somehow naive, it is clear that this measure is forced to be connected. she, uh, with the pressure that nato is exerting on russia as well and on belarus to the union state. uh, and this is a measure that should apparently give a signal that, in principle, russia is ready for the toughest measures. she pushes her most. uh, it means that the most serious powerful forces, as it were, are pushing closer to the borders of nato. that is, this is a measure of containment by nato, that 's all. yes, this is the first second uh , i think that we are showing nato that in case of aggression
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against belarus, russia will defend this territory, including because nuclear weapons are stationed here, that is, uh, if uh, well, the enemy, uh, let's call it directly, decide, for example, let's say from belarus to do about the same thing as with ukraine and even move closer to the borders of russia there for a couple of thousand kilometers, yes or a couple of hundred kilometers, yes, then russia, uh, including for this reason, will react as harshly as possible, that is, the first is the containment of nato, the second is an unequivocal hmm signal that any actions are against belarus. let russia be regarded as actually aggression against russia and she will, uh, react harshly to this. and so, in general, and in general, of course, everything, this is not from a good life. yes, and naturally. everyone would like to, so to say , live peacefully with each other, so to speak , trade and all that, but, in general, in fact, of course, this is all from the realm of illusions. so here it is, sweet, as if
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smooth, never was, and apparently never will be. so the movement of tactical nuclear weapons is in itself such a symbol of trust and mutual support, which means a very definite signal, which will also be received there. well i guess so, well as far as trust is concerned. yes, of course, this is a very serious trust here, to be honest, more serious measures of trust cannot even be imagined, because in fact we are showing that to president lukashenko and his team and the belarusian people. we trust the keys, including those of our own destiny. that's what is important, yes, that is, neither more nor less, neither more nor less. i think that here , uh, there can’t be two years here, this factor of finding this weapon on our territory to give such a long-term effect, and the impact on the enemy. well, it’s hard to say here, because here such is the situation in which the war that russia is waging and this conflict that russia is waging with
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ukraine and in fact with nato, which is using ukraine as a consumable. she goes in such a rather specific style that raises questions. well, including me, for example , yes, you know some kind of such an infantry war using conventional weapons, and that's it. this enabled our adversaries believe that nuclear weapons can never be used. i think it's here. eh, such a delivery of the question, it is not profitable. not to us, and not to belarus, to anyone. yes, i think that our adversary must understand that nuclear weapons would not be very desirable if they were ever used. well, it can be roughly applied, and let's hope that this step in relation to belarus yes will make them think about this topic. although , again, as for me, the operation in ukraine , of course, should move in ways that are more paradoxical for opponents and less predictable less calculated plus there is a factor more here. more, of course, i decided that she caught here, which means some chance for her, uh, for her luck, a chance to build
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some kind of huge huge zone of polish influence. i do not say i will not talk about the commonwealth because, as for me. well, to be honest, the polish elite cannot even govern ukraine, even if they suddenly get, so to speak, such such opportunities, one of the problems of the polish elite is historical. this is her inner malice. if you want to, yes extreme and polish nationalism, in fact, like any other extreme nationalist. he always narrows, uh, the scale of decision-making, that is, on the one hand. he. maybe, uh, that means, at the same time, somewhere in a limited area, limited, so to speak , to give time, but a certain effect, but in general. uh, the radical nazi elites have never been capable of building such large , large and viable hmm political projects. this is one of the reasons why polish projects fail as if from centuries into centuries, they seem to have something. then, once again, everything starts to fall apart. yes? it seems to me that this is from some kind of internal inferiority, to be honest, here, but now it seems to the poles that they can
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manage ukraine, they can become the main ones there. in this case, they can increase their role, er, in their own in europe, and here, of course, in belarus, belarus is a potential target for aggression. let's be honest, yes, that 's not without reason, they've been talking about it for so many years, it's the molotov-ribbentrop pact and that's it. consider offended recently, they support the belarusian position and everything connected with it, and now they are also asking the americans to deploy nuclear weapons on the territory of poland. so i think that, of course, these are also signals to the poles, whether they will again be able to answer your question about whether they can understand it. well, i think that we should , in theory, but maybe we lack a little toughness, so to speak, sharpness and unpredictability in our actions. but this is my personal opinion. yes, i believe that we act too predictable too lenin sometimes our moves, as it were before and ours, motives so to speak. they are too calculated by the enemy, in general, all these games of gentlemen. here, as for me. we must finish. well, you raised this topic that the polish authorities are trying to convince older fans to host nuclear weapons on the principle that
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moscow is handing over minsk and now we also need it, but another question. here, will they give them this weapon? here's your version will go to this west well, let's still rearrange these positions a little here, but in fact the poles. about and before russia accepted. here is the solution such conversations went around the poles asked for a serious increase in the military presence of the americans on the territory of poland, yes, as it were , the construction of a whole system of military bases there and all that, and to a certain extent , the decision on the russian metro weapons of belarus was the answer to precisely these things . so the question here is what was the first chicken or what, he is important in my opinion. yes, but all the same, these measures are retaliatory in nature, i say again, there are quite big risks for russia yes, and therefore she went for these things, as it were, yes, because the dangers are really serious dangers. there are quite serious dangers. will
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the americans? this is a weapon for the poles, i think not. by the way, this is also interesting. i think that e moscow trusts minsk much more than washington in warsaw, that's all. yes, including, because once again i repeat the polish elite is stricken with some kind of illness , you know, so to speak. such is the inner malice. and by the way, ukrainian nationalism in a strange way. eh, it looks like being, uh, it means a counterweight there or, let's say , an antagonist to polish nationalism, he adopted a lot. eh, hell. uh, and even in the worst form of polish nationalism. this is an incredible limitation. so to speak. sometimes absolutely stupid malice. here is the readiness to take the most absurd steps there. even though it might be, if you count ahead, it will, uh, become a problem there. well, i, for example, let's say directly, as it were , before but they refer to the eve of the second world war, so to speak, the great patriotic war wars when well poland played a serious role. e is what happened is what happened in
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the end. the first agreement is similar facts, mouribbentrop. it was the poles who concluded. uh, with hitler, as it were, yes, and not at all the soviet union warsaw berlin did it, therefore. eh, going back to your question, so to speak. i very much doubt that the americans went for it. these are too big risks, too big risks, especially against the backdrop of ambition, meanwhile, in general , escalation is observed in other areas. we see that, from a fresh macron, he said that paris had decided to give ukraine a-a long-range missiles. for, as he said, support for the offensive of the armed forces in the kremlin on the eve of peskov reacted naturally. this will force us, uh, to take countermeasures. and here the question really arises. how to answer , they have already begun to joke in the telegram that, maybe it's time for the french rebels in paris to get support in the form of manpads and grenade launchers, but it’s actually not funny in this situation. here, how do you see it? well, these are rockets for
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attempts to strike deep into russian territory, in my opinion. uh macron. uh, like many other european, so to speak, current politics allows, uh, great stupidity , because france will not get anything from this, absolutely nothing to the question, what does europe get from the fact that she plays these games, absolutely nothing yes, americans, uh, achieve certain goals. and here you can argue, yes, but the europeans only lose, because they are getting closer and closer to expose the situation. it's a big war in europe i hope it doesn't happen because what to send there for one thing. so to say, weapons and ammunition to ukraine is another thing to directly participate themselves, but er, that way they really make the situation. more and more dangerous. it really is. although, i believe that we and i are leading the russian side. of course, we spoiled them a little in this sense, because if more resolute , unequivocal from the very beginning, a special operation had acted, maybe it would have been on its course. others
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from the very beginning. it seems to me that a more decisive political guides. uh, it means uh ukraine yes, and now what we will introduce ourselves, you know , again, somehow we all play such gentleman's games, like, well, we are there , somewhere there, that means in the east ukraine are fighting, and everyone else can feel safe. yes, zelensky goes wherever he wants, so to speak, the macron, that he wants to allocate europeans to the americans. uh, so, uh don't feel any problem with everything that's happened, it gives them a sense of permissiveness. well, let's put more such missiles, but russia is nothing didn't do it to us specifically. let's put these. russia has also done nothing in this sense. uh, the only, by the way, in my opinion, a really serious step is precisely this transfer of part of our weapons to belarus, nato themselves in vilnius , and kiev, as we saw, was very prepared, and it was like that, you know, and the multi-genre performance is a bit of a thriller, when they pumped up the theme of strikes on the nuclear power plant a little. tragicomedies, when zelensky promised
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not to come, if the partners, well, do not show themselves like a man, they will not accept him into nato, but we we see that, in principle, they are not expected there. here, with the beginning of the american edition, even before forino, the feuer conveys hmm the general mood that reigns in the west, and she wrote that the united states needs to close the nato door to ukraine because the risks are higher than the benefits. well, then the bild just mercilessly hits the forehead when it publishes that the united states germany has blocked ukraine's entry into nato. but we see that zelensky does not give up, firstly, people come from where such a hype around the current meeting comes from. nato does not feel like we are talking about some kind of decisive stakes. well, at first , yes, with regard to the admission of ukraine to nato in my opinion. now i am linking this issue with the success or failure of the ukrainian counter-offensive, in my opinion, ukraine would not have been taken to nato in any case not in one
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case not in another case neither in case of success, nor in case of failure. it's a game. now they will design a pr scheme. this pr scheme will be the first two things, indeed, a real increase in ever new weapon packages. and the second, how would it be to build such a pr scheme, so to speak. for example, there is a council of ukraine to a council of ukraine of nato what will mean, so to speak, in reality, what powers it has is not at all clear. yes? there will probably be some. well, in short, they said zelensky should apologize to bring him to kiev, which means almost that nato almost accepted our victory, which is why the kuleba says this, here. and how can you prove that? so they almost accepted us, and then he will list all these pr structures, so to speak, that we now have on board there. uh, ukraine nato chka some there simplified procedure. although, it is also clear. why it will consist of this simplified procedure. and when it becomes possible. yes, i think such a thing, looking around. here are all the topics that we discussed with you belarus
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russia here is what we need to focus attention on now first of all? sovereignty sovereignty in everything yes, first of all, the sovereignty of thought. yes, you need to unlearn, in the end, constantly compare your actions , your way of life, your way of thinking with someone who is there, as it were, but somewhere behind cordon, because in my opinion it is not the sovereignty of the thoughts of the russian political elite in the first place. yes, it is largely a halt to the situation in which we are the second sovereignty of the economy. we need to learn to either reproduce what was once or learn to do from scratch. eh, it's strategically important to say yes to things! uh, machine tools machines equipment aircraft, so to speak, cars and so on. uh become as sovereign as possible in this to develop their own production. we need to be sovereign politics. we need to be sovereign in terms of defense on self-sufficient defense , this is something that will undoubtedly be very relevant throughout the 21st century. we
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need to be ourselves feel like a civilization of self-sufficiency. accurate while being open where needed, but not allowing you to ride on your neck. that's what is important to do is to draw very serious conclusions from the thirty soviet years and seriously change. yes, change in the direction of civilizational identity, and therefore strength. thank you very much for participating in our program russian political scientist sergey mikheev well, as an ellipsis , two events of the week, as if from different universes although geographically within easy reach, the kiev region, armed with sledgehammers and gas canisters from bulgarians, the demons continued to squeeze out orthodox possessions, this time the transfiguration cathedral, a white church. at the same time, at the competition in
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holland, the title of miss netherlands for the first time goes to a man. yes, you heard right guys. now, too, the bottom is a 22-year-old transgender. valerik now represent the netherlands in the miss universe pageant when i look at these two events. even you, many others tell me, for example, the burning ship of sweden cannot get rid of the idea that we were all fooled by humanity, infected with tolerance, which in fact turned out to be a trojan stone. now we see how it works. give us your shrines, and in return, beauty queens and converted men. they will save ukraine to the last ukrainians not because they need this state for today everyone is happy.
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