tv [untitled] BELARUSTV July 18, 2023 8:00pm-9:01pm MSK
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of course, the cost of the operation i think will be about 13,000. for comparison, in the private sector, a significant portion of these transactions cost 20,000 rubles. in belarusian and higher in belarus, the submission of documents to universities continues, the admission committee works all day from 9:00 am to 6:00 pm and more than 52,000 children will be able to transfer the status of an applicant in the student category. this is the admission plan for higher educational institutions of the country. many have updated the list of professions offered for training, so at the aviation academy it will be possible to get a specialty in air transportation logistics by date, documents for admission to belarusian universities at the expense of the budget can be until the twenty-fifth of july, and until august 9 , the paid entrance test will be held from july 26. belarusiada festival for the ninth time brought together belarusian power engineers over 10 teams and more than 300 participants competed in quests and creative competitions
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. and prepare the national dish. how about yourself reveals and everyone also wants to show what he can do, but the most important thing. what is there in this festival for sure. this is the work of the incision. and when the team is close-knit, it works in a completely different way and performs the tasks that are at work. it always helps in work in the gomel region, they began to produce licensed products for the second games of the strange cis for the dobrovsky porcelain factory, it is already a tradition to be involved in common national events in a day from the conveyor belt it reduces half a thousand decorative plates and twice as many mugs decorated products with the image of an original lynx are shipped to the distribution network. it will be possible to buy them during the days of the large-scale forum. anniversary exhibition elegy by natalya rachkovskaya is presented in the painting by the mikhail savitsky gallery in minsk, an abstract painting of games with the geometry of form and texture.
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she experiments in all directions and genres, creates original techniques in painting, graphics and ceramics. in total , more than 80 works created by the author over the past 40 years are presented. removed from the city mitusni here is yours karani and your power is true, pirate cop. forgive yourself. for being willing and tearing off a special one. and the right side is slick. skin-croc wild
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watchful own hello i greet everyone who is now with us glad to see the guests of our today's studio. we are still waiting for the inclusion from moscow today, so we will start a lot with our updated law on citizenship, and there are several important points, for example, we must now notify and obtain foreign citizenship in a residence permit, but the most resonant point of deprivation of citizenship for extremist crimes. the list is,
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of course, not small. it turns out that nikolai evgenievich thinks about this , how timely it is, how relevantly fair it is. there is no doubt about fairness. this is fair, but something of relevance , 2020 showed that among us there were those people who did not share our values, not our aspirations, respectively, they are at the same time, being conductors of someone else's ideology in our society. they didn't create much, let's say. good environment among our people and at the same time enjoyed all the benefits that our state gives, that is, there were enemy elements inside , let's call it so time passed , society realized that it is necessary today where we are moving. e, i realized the value of what we have and what we have, and probably found
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the mechanism that allows us to differentiate people who are ready to live in this society, develop it and find new vectors of development. and that valve is the mechanism for protecting our society from external and internal influences, this is this law. probably it should be said, especially to those of our viewers. whoever is watching us in russia outside of belarus did not delve into the clauses of this law there, that there is not an automatic deprivation, if the mechanism and notification have the opportunity to consider yes, these nuances exist, if indeed. uh, the first is that such a person must live abroad for a long time, the second is those persons who, in principle, in legal terms, are cut off from our state. it is important to emphasize these people who have committed any
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destructive actions. eh, easier to say crimes against national security are serious crimes, these are and, uh, acts of terrorism. this is mercenarism and this is the sovereign. the price is treason and in a circle they encroached on the integrity of our state at constitutional construction sites for sanctions, of course, and this mechanism will be quite serious, firstly, a necessary court decision. e in the court decision. of course , all the dots will already be placed over and either this or that person will be recognized or not recognized, that is, in the commission of certain serious crimes against national security and the decision to deprive citizenship will be made by the head of state. yes indeed. uh, today a person who even received citizenship of the republic of belarus by birth. it can deprive him, but if you do not
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respect your state, do not respect your constitution, do not comply with the laws of the country , you allow such actions to be illegal. well , it means you make your own choice. and, by the way, there is nothing new here because in many. countries , including democratic ones, as they call themselves in european countries, also have the possibility of deprivation of citizenship, for example, in the same austria, germany, spain, are deprived of citizenship. if you work in another state in the public service or military service , such a person is already automatically deprived of citizenship and there is nothing to worry about. we just set the accents, but for us today it is important that we form a civil society in this difficult time. and it is important for us that this civil society be healthy, that our citizens , the state and civil society. well, that is, the citizens of every citizen were protected, so that our state really developed steadily. i had stability. for this, i understand that i understand.
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look at the points of this law, that in general you need to try hard. that's strong, just like that to kick the lord so that they start you. in general , the process of depriving you of citizenship. it won't really be put on the line. you rightly said, it is very much necessary to spoil. here is the same tikhanovskaya. yes? tell us, let's say, what kind of mercy, even in general, was from our state, she was allowed to leave after what she had done here in august. twentieth of the year. well, sit and be quiet, tell me. well, if you don't thank me, then at least just keep quiet. yes, i understand that this is a talking head. i understand that it does not mean anything, but at the same time, if you opened your mouth, then you must understand the consequences of your statements against the state according to klinovsky. yes, what does she understand, so that citizens do not understand, there is nothing complicated. the first committed a crime the court decision entered into force. we offer you. come, executing judgments. you are a citizen. you have not only
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rights, but also the duty of duty to comply with the decision of a legitimate court did not come refused to perform the deprivation here. we are depriving you of everything, why are we depriving you, why do we need a leaf, for example, which has been for several years already how many three years? soon they first called for their country, then to rob socially unprotected groups to impose sanctions. now they are calling for shooting, that is, bombing, the city of minsk, a number of people. yes rolled to the point that they do not call on their own country to attack the drg, sabotage intelligence groups, or bomb our capital. well, what are we going to do with them? why do we need such people, for example, to include in the political process, but when, as a deputy in parliament, they would consider something like a bill, yes, the changes, that we are now discussing with you. here is the inner motivation. it is clear that you pass through yourself to analyze the facts and ask yourself a question. why exactly now these changes should be, you know, i would like to draw attention, including our
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viewers, to the accuracy that was formulated there deprivation of citizenship, and the loss of citizenship is a completely different and legal loss, and indeed there is a meaning, that is, a person with his active anti-state actions and actions. the e directed against the belarusian people leads to the fact that such decisions will be made against them. yes, this entry into force of a court verdict is also important. that is , uh, the investigation of a criminal case - this is a trial entry. eh, in force. uh, the judgment of the court of judgment in respect of this citizen being abroad, or either the enormous harm that he causes. uh, the republic of belarus as well. it also contains the norms of the law that if a person is in military service and occupies a state position in a state position
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in a foreign state, then this is also, uh, the basis for the loss of citizenship. well, it is natural that this addition to this law will be discussed in the working groups and in the oval hall. we said that there will be more procedures. just like it's a loss uh procedurally will be carried out. we have a commission on citizenship issues under the president of the republic of belarus where, accordingly, documents are prepared and a commission is prepared with the participation of representatives, e and heads of the presidential administration of ministries of departments of the deputy corps, the whole composition is indicated by the president e, before submitting to the decision of the head of state there will be all these grounds again to filter again to be checked. it's like granting citizenship such loss of citizenship, because, in my opinion, more than detailed. we are about it we talked further, who are interested can read the laws. although i believe that this law is narrowly special, it is only for those who
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really tried very hard to harm the state. so he needs to study this law for all other citizens to live in peace, you are not even interested. with this thread, she's definitely wrong. the topic of security, let's talk about it globally. moreover, in this sense, a lot of things threaten us. this, of course, is the nato summit that started in vilnius, some unhealthy hype in this time, they began to talk about it somewhere absolutely objectively for a long time. it deserves to be screwed up somewhere. well , for example, why doesn't he tell us about this? if perishing as something, well, too close to us. it is no coincidence that vadim chose several aspects closer to the borders of the union state. first, it means that they naturally show that we are here nearby asking for a permanent deployment, not a rotational official deployment of a reinforced group, troops, a nation on our borders. it's on purpose that it shows we're here we're close we're close and they are at the same time
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scary, judging by the way vilnius guarded. how many typewriters are ready to lock everyone up, you understand, they are there on the outskirts, it is clear that they are not spending in the very center. so, in essence, the first question here, uh, the membership of ukraine is speculation. i just want to understand that everything is happening separately, let's talk, but so that what is happening regarding this issue, no one, let's say , is planning to do it yet, because no one is interested in, let's say, ukraine, uh, for the omnipotent moment, stop these military actions show us that they will nevertheless, no matter how much we would not like to bring. this special us military provocation in europe is at least 24 years old before the political processes in the russian federation. why it doesn’t supply weapons. that’s what nato is discussing completely and quickly; they need to fill up this mess, the boiler, to keep the fire going, but it’s not even profitable for them to boil away, so that neither russia nor ukraine wins a decisive victory because it’s you,
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well, in some fields battles, because it is forced to sit down at the negotiating table. and they need destabilize the region. it is natural to understand that this is a threat and both. our answer yeah , asymmetric, but understand that we will be destroyed from within in uh. well, let's talk about nato in more detail, we'll discuss it very close to us, and we are somehow involved in the whole world in what they discussed there yesterday and today they continue long before kiev itself began to repeat the mantra that they take us to nato if they don’t take it, firstly, it’s not like a man, and secondly, then zelensky is offended and it’s clear that he didn’t kick, but he arrived, although it was already before the start. it is clear that not even before the nato meeting, german buildings were being taken, the united states and germany had blocked ukraine's entry into nato, that is, at first they inspired zelensky, then they landed him on the other side. didn’t he understand that no one takes it or where did he get this idea that this topic in general, may
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be relevant, why didn’t he say it arose? zelensky is a wonderful manipulator and a very good actor, i have already spoken on this topic more than once, but the ability to use any information occasion to your advantage. he is very good at it, it turns out himself he would have replayed, he was sure that his bet would play out. what a player who clearly understood that at the moment he is a real tool in the hands of the euro-atlantic union to weaken russia to destabilize the situation in this region and he had many advantages, because well, everything he asked for was what he demanded they gave him everything. pay attention to weapons of various types, starting there from javelins, ending with aircraft. we have discussed before. in this same studio a year ago
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where the question was asked. will the planes be given them and in the near future there will be more of them. this is not the point. the fact is that the world is being reorganized, a real process is underway with the restoration of a multipolar world , and ukraine has been chosen as a tool by the west in order to prevent this from happening today , the reality is this. and zelensky believed in his, so to speak, exclusivity that he can, and he knows how to manipulate, certain hmm information flows, and to some extent zelensky, uh, practically convinced himself and convinced a large piece of people or society, including foreign society , that without him he would go nowhere and this allowed him, including convincing himself that he would achieve this decision within nato from interesting and at
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the same time disturbing messages the day before macron said that the bet decided to transfer long-range missiles to ukraine for, as he again explained support for the apu offensive in the kremlin, peskov reacted to quote. naturally. this will force us to take countermeasures. this topic has been discussed several times already, at first i spoke about it great britain and gave the same missiles, the same gave it in terms of its range in terms of its characteristics. they are comparable. after that, france took the same step . not because she wants this for the macron, it is necessary to show its importance in europe, it must show that it is no worse than great britain here. mm struggle for power in european. uh, let's say in the theater that it is stronger than germany , including france is fighting germany for leadership and so on, but this is nothing more. what , again, is an informational stuffing on this one wave to show how great we are, that we are ready to go to the end, and so on. no
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more than that, they will give rockets, we will already talk about this and dali and they will give and give everything that can be included everything that shoots everything that explodes will be delivered to ukraine not immediately about this. we have already said that it is necessary to carry out a sequence of aggression, the peak will be when there is some kind of hacking the situation in russia as soon as it will stagger. if this is what it is, it is clear that if russia now inflicted a crushing defeat, oh what alexander grigoryevich e said during the counterattack, you laid down these main divisions there, which are still in reserve. of course, this, uh, would force kiev to negotiate and not the fact that after reaching an agreement. it would not restart the situation after some time, but at the current moment they are waiting for the x hour when the maximum impact. if now they're probing for a hole in the defense, and here are these uh cluster munitions that will be transferred by the united states. america, we'll probably talk about it later. this as for what in the first place to break through the defense. here is a similar one. in this case, he,
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if you read his telegram channel, referring to from which he is there on the front line , claims that he is already striking with the same bombs announced by the clusters. that is, they are already there, if you believe the people who are there with ivanovic how do you know look at the threats that have increased after that self-confidence? no wonder they gave it and were afraid, how do you evaluate or overheated? i think what is the difficulty of the situation for us and why were there such expectations from the summit on the part of ukraine because yes , zelensky is an actor, but the most important thing in his position is not acting, but purely business, so he, in addition to the fact that he is also an actor and a businessman says, well, he business is doing on politics. and what is the policy of ukraine, it is a weapon and a spearhead against russia, namely the west, what is the hat from the position of nato, now she needs to make such decisions so as not to get herself into trouble and realize consciously i say this word not to get into the third world war and continue the fire.
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the confrontation is precisely, with russia form e , a special military operation and hostilities in ukraine, therefore ukraine needs to be supported in order for this escalation to continue and continue in the right direction. yes, there were hopes that there would be a counter-attack, there would be some successes, there are no successes, except for the seven villages there, which they liberated according to them , about which there are actually no, which are in a vulnerable position. eh, because they captured the lowlands. they're just settlements of the square, and now the war is not for the square goes, therefore, the program, uh, the maximum of the west what kind of ruin russia and right? the point of view was said here that it is necessary to create conditions for the internal collapse of russia and when the events took place, uh, on the twenty-third. e june, yes then there are certain hopes that this is the beginning, but they simply did not have time to very quickly it was
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all localized, therefore, in essence. what is now, what has happened and is happening now a little more than a year ago, when we introduced a visa-free regime in relations. uh, the baltic states uh, after a while poland i here he quoted the words of a simple citizen of lithuania who, by nationality, from belarus , was born there, and he said. what is different uh situation back. land from belarus, he says, what in belarus you have here from any fool they try to make a person. in our country, on the contrary, they make a fool out of a person. so, what is the point of vilnius itself, that they made a fool out of ukraine, not only from ukraine, i’ll tell you as an anecdote what is happening at the summit, which means, uh, local residents in lithuania noticed that from the streets of vilnius old trolleybuses 160 still of czechoslovak production disappeared in the eighties, appeared on the street like this, but still in this way. i wanted to show that the country is still
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ok, still the norm. a new technique has appeared, but they themselves are all outraged by such show-off a couple of examples of what and how they think about the score, please, and why should we hide that we are a poor country, and the grass will be painted ashamed, even while reading, why hide what ordinary why you need to look better more beautiful. what are you in really? you think that no one knows anything, that the world's millionaires do not know how lithuanians live. what a terrible backwardness everywhere is a disgrace. so close pensioners with the poor, otherwise it will ruin the image. well, you know, how immediately, when you look at such a picture on the seat of his complex. the main thing is that the canoe liked it, probably the logic is this. you know complex. maybe he is a modest person, but i would like to tell myself again so that he knows there that he probably turned out to be a piece of iron from his colleague, he would show everything and
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he asked for money, but here, well, from this, like this , in this way. yes, behind such a facade hides, indeed, the true problem of the country. but we know that if you leave a lot of people there are not enough jobs, the economy is not very good, maybe you should have thought about your citizens, show them the problems of concentrating, of course, of course, they have a completely different problem now. his binoculars sees the enemy, the union state for them, we are enemies. although historically we have always lived side by side and could be wonderful neighbors, yes, russia and so on. well, we'll live and see. but if we talk more about ourselves, if you will allow me hmm well, after all, somewhere it warmed the soul that it was written in the communiqué that, and today the alliance does not seek confrontation with russia it also seems to me such a signal that the third world war . we do not want we are not idiots. uh, vadim said that
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they don’t want negotiations, yes, that is, they can’t allow negotiations between russia and ukraine, you know who knows him today? look, no matter how there was a counteroffensive. it well, it does not have the obvious results that the alliance was waiting for from ukraine; they are not there, what will happen? tomorrow we don't know, uh, i'm certainly not a military expert but analyzing the opinion of military experts. i think that this is not a long-range weapon, which has already been additionally provided to france , not cluster weapons. ah, ammo. they won't decide anything on the battlefield. yes, there will simply be more victims, there will be more trouble today. uh, maybe, uh, the united states of america wants to save face somewhere. you understand, if suddenly russia wins, but suddenly someone america loses and no,
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there are two guarantees that ukraine will win today, either in a long game, and then we'll see, or before the twenty-fourth year. still, you need to think and come up with some option on how to get out of this situation in america. still , it's more beautiful, it seems to be not playing and at the same time, in order to somehow change this situation a little, but let's live and see. after all, what does the president say today that let's sit down at the negotiating table. and even in principle, it assumes that such negotiations between russia and ukraine will be possible. autumn, i would really like it to be the first. naturally. i am a supporter of the position of alexander lukashenko from the first day, we are supporters of negotiations, but i want to tell you this, any military man is more like a specialist, uh, and any such project that has been prepared for more than one, not one year. there are several scenarios, cover-ups and so on. and both russian and american ideologists are ready to justify everything with them. if
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it is necessary to explain any event, they have already learned how to manipulate the mass consciousness from all sides so, let's get down to business. now what will happen? as i think, naturally, we will facilitate the negotiations as much as possible. the question is what contractual position will the parties have if your contractual position is unbalanced and one of the parties is dissatisfied. they will leave you a minus of the windward action. well, that's right, the sooner we sit down and stop the b- collision. it will be better anyway, but the task, in my opinion, of the united states of america, we do not owe nato and this entire group of more than thirty states unite as one whole these are different groups. there are major interests. this is the united states, their allies, canada, which means, uh. well, they are, respectively , great britain. here they are, on this now, they are heating their pens. there is an impact force. ukraine has a reserve. this is primarily in poland in the first place. poland is the one who pays the bills, it's europe that pays for this whole concert not the us pays europe and the us
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is interested in giving the appearance that they are interested in stabilizing this situation. again i say drag out the conflict, at least until the political company of 24 years in russia pump the situation from the inside, not a single country in the world can be in a state of constant mobilization for an endless time. now they are none. they are their first task. look at 58% of the world's reserves in the dollar indirect direct calculations 88% of the world's calculations in the dollar. and they kept all this. thanks to this military operation, they took control of the energy of the european union, which are not idiots, or what? why stop it? so they will stop only if they see an immediate threat. i have been saying all this for a year and a half, until they feel threatened. here they will tilt europe and push e ukraine into the ashes of war. unfortunately, and we have to do everything to ensure that what my colleague says about following the negotiating table, the more time passes we
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see, it's really impossible to disagree with you with what we see in all the hmm action of the west and shipments of cluster munitions prior to that. this is with combined uranium and so on and so forth, they need ukraine how a military base under the cover of the state will double the aid. now let's listen to the president. the further, the further this situation goes, the less promising the discussion about peace becomes for ukraine . the president spoke about this. they asked him questions. foreign journalists asked about it. as you can see the situation, here is a small fragment of what the president answered today from ukraine, you can talk and reach some kind of peace agreements. i mean, not so much belarus e as russia she will talk after the so-called counter advance. no, the situation will change and whether they want to talk to you zelensky lived for concrete, we said we will support you
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, we will arm, we will give money as much as you need to never give up. and then zelensky's wings appeared, he flew. what's going on? now he finally understood that he would not win this war. there is still a nato summit, it is being discussed now. we will soon know what happened there today, but the situation. in another, me personally as a person who is engaged in general, the topic of escalation of tension was very strongly touched by geopolitical geostratic issues. it can be traced in all decisions, especially in the joint decision of nato. please note that today they are no longer talking about europe, not the north atlantic space. they talk about world space and as one of their
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prospects, so to speak, and the opponents are called china and china is completely on the other side. so let's say our large eurasian continent. what does it mean that no one is going to, uh, finish use the force factor in political battles. this is the first second moment. there is clearly a paragraph in the joint statement of nato that says that the option of getting out of the political situation proposed by whom ukraine is supported, that it says this will return everything to normal again and a nato member will appear next to the russian federation with the appropriate infrastructure , appropriate training, which will continue will pursue this policy, the expansion and destruction of all russian, which has been
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throughout all these years. the third point is that as for, again , no one is talking about the prospects for the near future. about how we are now discussing the issue of the negotiation process, the peace process. they don't talk about it. they condemn belarus and russia for hosting nuclear weapons. they talk about the need to go back to before everything that has long been lost. sorry to everyone they say they need to be concerned about what's going on here, but no one talks about we stop supplying arms. this is the main point that should be discussed today speech. even if they already have enough. well, its reserves are small, in fact, compared to what it was, they were sure that this would be enough to bring russia to its knees in order to destabilize the situation in russia and to ensure that russia's internal coup in another once destroyed their state.
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and this was the main calculation and is not removed. he continues the issue of the game in a long year for them - it's called pah. this is a very short conversation about the five-year period, maybe for decades, they are ready for this, because as soon as the ukrainian events end. god forbid, in their opinion, in the interests of russia , russia will solve its strategic tasks. everything will fall down the whole world based on the rules. they know about it, they connect topics, but against all this background, we touched on the college in fragments of a press conference. it doesn’t even look ridiculous when foreign journalists during an interview again talked about the last dictator. on the road. reuters journalists. it's so tempting to ask, what are you, are you kidding or something, one goes to john's concert when paris is on fire, the other endlessly freaks out publicly experiencing dementia. here it is again.
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let's take a look at the canoe that doesn't work. how about this? oh well, the most important thing is that both do not care that someone may not like it, macron, biden, zelensky at some point notices lukashenka. you should already change in front of me today i'm not a dictator and if the dictator is not the last one, well, while we 're hiding all this from batin's old macron trolleybuses. hiding himself from the wrath of the people, he lukashenka in the shops, mogilev is left-handed and talking about earthly things about the development of production and sales markets. i mean, that's exactly what he meant. here is vladimir alexandrovich alexander lukashenko when he said that life without war is the result of painstaking daily work. firstly, lukashenka does not reign according to the dictator. he serves the people and the country. this is proved by the results of that 29 -year term, which he received the country 29 years
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ago, when law enforcement agencies wiped their feet. we had a palace in the center of the capital, collapsed by a fence the kupalovsky theater collapsed nearby the economy on the shoulder blades pensioners are in line for groceries and today we are the first in the world in a number of un indices minimal infant maternal death during childbirth better access to education to health services and layers less to explain it all as a matter of national security and stability. so that's the kind of country we are building power is based on the following principles. it is money and resources is power. and this is consent in society, social stability , for which lukashenko says that we want peace, let's do quality work, if we do not have a strong economy, we will not have the means to buy the necessary or produce
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the necessary resources. we will not have the means to provide and support the power bloc and we will not cut off in order to maintain socio-political stability, so we in comparison, the belarusians uh-huh keep the peace in lukashenka, the power they will do everything that two comparisons are possible even before our eyes, we discussed it before in a sitting. and now we are discussing what is happening here. we see that there he gathers this nato team and hides the old trolleybus instead of dealing with problems. and here. after all, we, too , could write off a lot of internal issues to the fact that we really need to spend more on the army to ensure security. now it’s not up to that and the president would sit there from morning to evening somewhere in the headquarters and deal with the situation belongs to the trust national groups. all of this we can not even discuss with them already. all clear. why are you going to understand the citizens enter here. so we believe here a tactical separate weapon for, among other things, to spend less money on confidential
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weapons, that is, we can inflict an asymmetric response and this allows us to stretch out in time. uh, rearmament of our armed forces . strengthening our grouping, but they know that they can't come here today. we have a weapon that can inflict serious damage on them, speaking of our security. we are talking about ours, we have kept the peace on belarusian soil. not one belarusian soldier has set foot on a foreign land during the time of independence. uh, it was for the conduct of the war for the peacekeeping functions that there were injections, and we, as, uh, a member of the csto, were in kazakhstan. they went out and provided assistance, but we see that what is the essence of these decisions that must be made . they made a decision regarding ukraine . weapons rate. it plays against us. they shortened the path to nato for ukraine. and most
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importantly, they decided that they would accept ukraine into nato when the hostilities were over, when the fighting was going on. we are not interested in actions and russia is also not interested in fighting. and when we agree, well, russia will agree, uh, there will be a truce with ukraine, it will become a country and nato is also playing against us, that is, there is not a single decision regarding us and the union state of belarus and russia, uh, nato does not accepted, that is, they work for escalation, so why is it important for us to ensure our national security in all areas, including in the economic one, and why the president is now waving the mogilev-elevator, visiting fields and farms, because we are exporting oriented state will not be the economic component. you alone correctly said that we will not have everything else , so we not only have to support our economy. well, we must maintain and
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develop opportunities for growth not only in economic terms and politically and in culturally and as a nation. we must develop, we have achieved a lot. during the time of our independence, we have built a sovereign country . and the main task in the message is clearly formulated to preserve the sovereignty and independence of the belarusian state. and what do we need to do to do this. we understand everything. we need to make sure that we have stability in society, that we develop further, that, uh, we improve as a nation. we have everything for this, we have a nuclear power plant, we have space, we flew. we have much to be proud of, but we they must continue to develop to hide the buses. look, the formula sounded in mogilev from the president is the lack of discipline. what alexander ivanovich is talking about is the lack of discipline - this is a failure, a failure. this war all starts with the economy, therefore nato nato, but it needs to be like this, as this is the formula that
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the president proposed or voiced in principle, he has been voiced for a decade. note. you watch the president's speech. here for the last at least five years. before that, you can 10 years, because this is the main thing, if there is stability, if there is understanding, if there is responsibility at any level from the lowest to the highest , there are states, if there is a state , there are appropriate forces to ensure national security, there are appropriate resources for development and formation, and, probably, stable stable development of the state . and here i would like to draw attention to another phrase. after all, the president says not only national security, but also the development of the country depends on everyone. it corresponds reality. we have a people's state. there is a powerful spike between the authorities and the people, so we are still alive and developing, and i would
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probably add such a postulate to this, if we weren’t interfered with. we would no longer know at what level of development belarus would be if we were not forced to turn to incomprehensible neighbors at nato who are constantly rattling weapons, and all this resource was directed to the development of the state. today we have here no worse than it was in the emirates. and maybe even better. yes, you know, i'll hold nikolai ognevich, indeed, the president speaks about this clearly and clearly. and you can even cite a couple of his such, uh, capacious statements, and stop there. here is his favorite. get dressed and go to work. do everything, and give me the economy everything else. i will do for you. he really stressed that the economy is very important, it will develop, we will have everything and we will have a pension, we will have, uh, wages. oh, our
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country will develop. you know, despite all the difficulties that we face today, despite on those unprecedented sanctions pressure. i, unfortunately, forgot. and whose statistics were those, but the statistics were foreign and belarus got into the top 10 countries, yes, the top 10 countries for hmm yes, moving from life, you understand, among canada there is the eighth world, in my opinion, british. i just wanted to strike something foreign statistics, so we are doing everything right, but of course we must go ahead and work and understand that we must and it is very important to do this. and of course, do not relax today is the time. thank you very much for participating in our program in general, the program itself is still going on in a couple of minutes, another interlocutor. today we have russian political scientist sergei mikheev so see you. thank you very much, the russian
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political scientist sergey mikheev sergey alexandrovich is in touch with us hello, let's start with the topic, perhaps, which , apparently , foreign journalists recently tried to torture the belarusian president by placing tactical nuclear weapons in belarus. well, there, in the interests of our country, alexander lukashenko, in general , said everything, but what tasks does he solve in this way, russia well, as far as i can see it. yes, i cannot answer, so to speak, for the whole of russia , the russian authorities. but as far as i can see, this is, in general, a forced measure. yes, that is, uh, here to think, uh, what does it mean, moscow has dreamed of placing nuclear weapons there for belarus and moving it to the territory, so to speak, of another state. well, somehow naive, it is clear that this measure is forced to be connected. she, uh, with the pressure that nato puts on both russia
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and belarus on the union state. uh, and this is a measure that should apparently give a signal, that, in principle, russia is ready for the toughest measures. she pushes her most. uh, it means that the most serious powerful forces, as it were, are pushing closer to the borders of nato. that is, this is a measure of containment by nato, that 's all. yes, this is the first second, i think that we are showing nato that in the event of aggression against belarus, russia will defend this territory, among other things. because nuclear weapons are stationed here, that is, uh, if uh , well, the enemy, uh, let's call it directly , decide, for example, let's say with belarus about the same as with ukraine and even move closer to the borders of russia there for a couple of thousand kilometers there, yes or for a couple of hundred kilometers, yes, then russia , uh, including for this reason, will react as harshly as possible, that is, the first is the containment of nato; the second is
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an unequivocal hmm signal that any actions are against belarus. yes, russia will be regarded as practically aggression against russia, and it will, uh, react harshly to this. and so, in general, and in general, of course, everything, this is not from a good life. yes, and naturally. everyone would like to live peacefully, so to speak. here, so to speak , to trade with each other and all that, but, in general, in fact, of course, this is all from the realm of illusions. so here it is, sweet, as if smooth, never was, and apparently never will be. the fact of moving tactical nuclear weapons is in itself such a symbol of trust and mutual support. and that means a very definite signal, which they will also receive there. trust. yes , of course, this is a very serious trust here, to be honest, more more serious measures it is impossible to even come up with trust, because in fact we are showing that president lukashenka and his team and the belarusian people. we trust the keys,
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including those of our own destiny. that's what is important, yes, that is, a little. neither less nor more nor less. i think that here, uh, here for two days , this factor of having these weapons on our territory cannot give such a long-term effect, but the impact on the enemy. well, it’s hard to say here, because of course, such is the situation in which that war, which russia is waging yes, this conflict that russia is waging with ukraine in fact, with nato, which is using ukraine as a consumable . she goes in such a rather specific style that raises questions. well, including me, for example , yes, you know some kind of such an infantry war using conventional weapons, and that's it. this made it possible for our adversaries to believe that nuclear weapons could never be used. i think it's here. eh, such a delivery of the question, it is not profitable. neither us, uh, and not belarus to anyone. yes, i think that our adversary must understand that nuclear weapons would not be very desirable if they were ever used. well, it can
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be roughly applied, and let's hope that this step in relation to belarus yes will make them think about this topic. although , again, as for me, the operation in ukraine , of course, should move in ways that are more paradoxical for opponents, less predictable, less calculated, plus there is a larger factor here. more, of course, i decided what she caught here means some chance for her, uh, for her luck, a chance for building some huge huge zone of polish influence. i do not say i will not talk about the commonwealth because, as for me. well, to be honest, the polish elite cannot even govern ukraine, even if they suddenly get, so to speak, such such opportunities, one of the problems in the polish elite is historical. this is her inner malice. extremely polish nationalism, if you like, in fact, like any other extreme nationalism. he always narrows uh, the scale of decision-making, that is, on the one hand. he. maybe, uh, that means, at the same time , somewhere in a limited area
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, limited, so to speak, to give time, but a certain effect, but in general. uh, the radical nazi elites have never been capable of building such large , large and viable hmm political projects. this is one of the reasons why polish projects fail, as it were, from the century of the century, they seem to have something. then, once again, everything starts to fall apart. yes? i think it's from some kind of internal inferiority, to be honest, here, but now it seems to the poles that they can, they can rule ukraine, they can become the main ones there. in this case, they can increase their role, er, in their own in europe, and here, of course, in belarus, belarus is a potential target for aggression. let's be honest, yes, that 's not without reason, they have been talking for so many years about the molotov-ribbentrop pact and that's it. consider recently offended, they support the belarusian position and everything connected with it , and now they are still asking the americans to place nuclear weapons on the territory of poland. so i think that, of course, these are also signals to the poles, whether they will be able to , again, to your question about whether they will be able to realize this. uh, well, i think that we should
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, in theory, but maybe we lack a little bit of toughness, so to speak, sharpness and unpredictability in our actions. but this is my personal opinion. yes, i think that we act too predictably too linear sometimes our moves, as it were, and our motives, so to speak. they're too calculating enemy, in general, all these games in gentlemen. here, as for me. yes, we must finish. well, you touched on the topic that the polish authorities are trying to convince older fans to host nuclear weapons on the principle that moscow is handing over minsk and now we also need it, but another question. here, will they give them this weapon? here's your version will go to this west well, let's still rearrange these positions a little here, but in fact the poles. about and before russia accepted. this is the decision such conversations went around colleagues asked about serious an increase in the american military presence on the territory of poland yes, as it were, the construction of a whole system of military bases there and all that , and to a certain extent, the answers
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to precisely these things were the decision on the russian metro weapons of belarus yes, so the question here is what it meant , the first chicken or egg, he is important in my opinion. yes, but all the same, these measures are retaliatory in nature , i say again, quite big risks for russia yes, and therefore she went for these things, as it were, yes, because there are really dangers the dangers are serious. there are quite serious dangers. will the americans give nuclear weapons to the poles? i think no. by the way, this is also interesting. i think that moscow trusts minsk much more than washington trusts warsaw. here, in fact, that's all. yes, including, because once again i was appointed by the polish elite. the elite is stricken with some kind of illness, you know, so to speak. such is the inner malice. and by the way, speaking ukrainian nationalism in a strange way. e, it seems, as being, uh, it means that he took over as a counterweight there or, let's say, an antagonist to polish nationalism so many. eh, hell. uh, and even in the worst form of polish nationalism. this
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is an incredible limitation. so to speak. sometimes absolutely stupid malice. here is the readiness to take the most absurd steps there. even though it might be, if you count ahead, it will, uh, become a problem there. well, i, for example, let's say directly, as it were, before but they refer to the eve of the second world war, so to speak, the great patriotic war, when poland played a serious role. uh what's up what's up, what's up eventually. the first agreement is similar to the fact of a hammer or bendrop. it was the poles who concluded. uh, with hitler, as it were, yes, and not at all the soviet union of warsaw did it with berlin, therefore. eh, going back to your question, so to speak. i very much doubt that the americans went for it. these are too big risks, too big risks, especially against the backdrop of ambition, meanwhile, in general , escalation is observed in other areas. long range missiles. for, as he
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said, support for the offensive of the armed forces in the kremlin on the eve of peskov reacted naturally. this will force us, uh, to take countermeasures. and here the question really arises. how to answer here in the telegram they have already begun to joke that, maybe it's time for the french rebels in paris to get support in the form of manpads and grenade launchers, but it's actually not funny in this situation. here, how do you see it? well, these are missiles for trying to strike deep into russian territory, in my opinion. uh macron. eh, like many other european, so to speak, current politicians allow e great stupidity, because france will not get anything from this , absolutely nothing, so to the question, what does europe get from the fact that she plays these games, absolutely nothing, yes, americans, uh, achieve certain goals. and here you can argue, yes, but the europeans only lose, because they are getting closer and closer to expose the situation. it's a big war in europe i hope it doesn't happen because
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it's one thing to send it there. so to say, weapons and ammunition to ukraine is another matter. directly participate themselves, but uh, that way they really make the situation. more and more dangerous. it really is. although, i believe that we and i are leading the russian side. of course, we spoiled them a little in this sense, because if more resolute ones acted unequivocally from the very beginning , a special operation might have been on its course. others from the very beginning. it seems to me that we should have been more resolute in regard to political leadership. uh, it means uh ukraine yes, and now you know what we will introduce ourselves, again but somehow we all play such gentlemanly games, like, well, we are there , somewhere there, which means we are fighting in the east of ukraine, and everyone else can feel safe. yes, zelensky travels wherever he wants, so to speak, the macron, that he wants to allocate europeans to the americans. uh, so, uh don't feel any problems from everything that happened, it gives them a sense of permissiveness. well, let's
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well, first, yes, with regard to the admission of ukraine to nato in my opinion. uh, now they are linking this issue with the success or failure of the ukrainian counteroffensive, in my opinion. nato would not have taken ukraine in any case not in one case not in another case not in the case. success, not in case of failure. this is a game. now they will design a pr scheme. this pr-scheme two things will be the first. the correct increase in all new weapons packages, how would it be to build such a say pr scheme. for example, there is the council of ukraine council of ukraine of nato, what will mean, so to speak, in reality, what powers it will have is not at all clear. yes? there will probably be some. well, in short, zelensky needs to be brought from vilnius to kiev, which means almost that nato almost accepted our victory, which is why the kuleba says it like this.
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and how can you prove it, so to speak, because we have almost accepted it, and then he will list in all these pr structures, so to speak, that he now has in the city there advice. uh, nato ukraine, that is, some kind of simplified procedure there. although it is also clear. why it will stand is a simplified procedure. and when will it become possible? yes, i think such a thing, summing up, looking around. here are all the topics that we discussed with you belarus russia here is what we need to focus attention on now first of all? sovereignty sovereignty in everything yes, first of all, the sovereignty of thought. yes, you need to unlearn, in the end, constantly compare your actions , your lifestyle, your way of thinking with someone there who is, as it were, somewhere beyond the cordon, because in my opinion it is not the sovereignty of the thought of the russian political elite in the first place. yes, to a large extent, it led to the situation in which we find ourselves in the second sovereignty of the economy. we need to learn to either reproduce what was once or
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learn to do from scratch. uh, strategically important. this is, so to speak, yes to things, and machines, equipment, aircraft, so to speak, cars and so on. uh, become as sovereign as possible in this develop your own production. we need to be sovereign in politics. we need to be sovereign in terms of self-sufficient defense , this is something that will undoubtedly be very relevant throughout the 21st century. we need to be ourselves feel like a civilization of self-sufficiency. accurate while being open where needed, but not allowing you to ride on your neck. that's what is important to do is to draw very serious conclusions from the thirty soviet years and seriously change. yes, change in the direction of civilizational identity, and therefore strength. thanks a lot for participating in our program russian political scientist sergei mikheev was with you e. well, as an ellipsis, two events
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of the week, as if from a different universe. although geographically within easy reach, the kiev region, armed with sledgehammers and gas canisters by bulgarians, the demons continued to squeeze out orthodox possessions, this time the transfiguration cathedral of the white church. at the same time, at the competition in holland, the title of miss netherlands goes to a man for the first time. yes, you heard right guys. now also a bottom 22-year-old transgender. valery kale, now imagine the netherlands in the miss universe pageant when i look at these two events. it’s already you who tell me many others, for example, sweden’s burning pencil, i can’t these ones from the thought that we all cheated humanity, infected with tolerance, which in fact turned out to be a trojan stone. now we see how it
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works. give us your shrines, and in return , beauty queens and converted men. they will save ukraine to the last ukrainians, because they need this state for today everything is happy. each of the heroes of the new people project chose their own road and achieved the first big success. he is very tenacious, grasping, thanks to these character traits, he achieves what he achieves talented and brave people are always ready to learn something new, they really work, because here are tears of pain, but at the same time she understood that she would get up in the morning, everything would be
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fine. she will come out beautifully on the stage will receive positive energy to go to the competition, he organized an exhibition and performed there and put it as a dj in the center of the exhibition hall, and closed the fishing tent in it and from there played music. it was, well, such a provocation. i also want to ask you a question. here, as he sees, this is the most beautiful thing. probably it is necessary to love the belarusians. watch on belarus
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