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once otshuesh and do not get more nicole collected. hello greetings to all who are now with us are happy to see the guests of our today's studio. we are still waiting for the inclusion from moscow today, so we will start a lot with our updated law on citizenship, and there are several important points, for example, we must now weary about obtaining foreign citizenship of a residence permit, but the most resonant point of deprivation of citizenship for extremist crimes. the list is,

of course, not small. it turns out that nikolai evgenievich thinks about this , how timely it is, how relevantly fair it is. there is no doubt about fairness. this is true about the relevance of 2020 showed that among us there were those people who did not share our values ​​and our aspirations, respectively, they are at the same time, being the conductors of a foreign ideology in our society. they didn't create much. so let's say a good environment among of our people, and at the same time enjoyed all the benefits that our state gives, that is, there were enemy elements inside , let's call it that way , the time has come for society to realize that it is necessary today where we are moving. e, i realized the value of what we have and what we have, and probably found

the mechanism that allows us to differentiate people who are ready to live in this society, develop it and find new vectors of development. and that valve is the mechanism for protecting our society from external and internal influences, this is this law. probably it should be said, especially to those of our viewers. whoever watches us in russia outside of belarus did not delve into the clauses of this law there, that there is not an automatic deprivation, if the mechanism and notification are an opportunity to consider. yes, there is. the first is such a person who must live abroad for a long time, the second is those persons who, in principle, in legal terms , are cut off from our state. it is important to emphasize these people who have committed any destructive actions. uh, easier

say a crime against national security is a serious crime, and uh, acts of terrorism. this is mercenarism and this is the sovereign. this treason was encroached on the integrity of our state in a circle, constitutional construction projects, a call for sanctions, of course, and this mechanism will be quite serious, firstly, a necessary court decision. e in the court decision. of course , all the dots will already be dotted over and either this or that person will be recognized or not recognized. that's it. e in the commission of certain grave crimes against national security and the decision on deprivation of citizenship will be made by the head of state. yes indeed. uh, today a person who even received citizenship of the republic of belarus by birth. it can deprive him, but if you do not

respect your state, do not respect your constitution, do not comply with the laws of the country , you allow such actions to be illegal. well , it means you make your own choice. and, by the way, there is nothing new here because in many. countries , including democratic ones, as they call themselves, in european countries also have the possibility of deprivation of citizenship, for example, the same austria, germany, spain, deprive of citizenship. if you work in another state in the public service or military service , such a person is already automatically deprived of citizenship and there is nothing to worry about. we just set the accents, but for us today it is important that we form a civil society in this difficult time. and it is important for us that this civil society be healthy, that our citizens , the state and civil society. well, that is, citizens every citizen were protected, so that our state really develops steadily and there is stability. for this we do. i understand that i

understand, having looked at the points of this law, that in general you need to try hard. that's hard, just like that, kicking the lord so that they start you. in general, the process of depriving you of citizenship is unconditional. this will not really be put on stream on the conveyor. you rightly said, it is very much necessary to spoil. here is the same tsekhanovskaya, right? tell us, let's say, what mercy even in general was from our state to her allowed to leave after what she basically did here in august. twentieth year. well, sit and be quiet, tell me. well, if you don't thank me, then at least just keep quiet. yes, i understand that this is a talking head. i understand that she does not mean anything, but at the same time, if you opened your mouth, so you must understand the consequences of your statements against the state of o kolyanovsky, yes, that she understands that the citizens are not complicated. the first committed a crime the court decision entered into force. we offer you to come, fulfilling the judicial solutions. you are a citizen. you have not only

rights, but also obligations, the obligation to comply with the decision of a lawful court, did not come here and refused to comply with the decision. we are depriving you of everything, why are we depriving you, why do we need a leaf, for example, which has been for several years already how many three years? soon in the gabile of his country. at first they called for means to rob a socially unprotected group to impose sanctions. now they are calling to shoot, that is, to bomb, the city of minsk . that does not call on their own country to attack the drg, sabotage reconnaissance groups, or bomb our capital. well, what are we going to do with them? why do we need such people, for example , to include in the political process. but when, as a deputy in parliament, they would also consider a bill. yes, here are the changes that we are discussing with you now. here is the internal what motivation, it is understandable, so that you pass through yourself to analyze the facts and ask yourself a question. why right now these changes must be you know i would i wanted to draw attention, including to our

viewers, to the accuracy of the wording, there is not deprivation of citizenship, but loss of citizenship . this is a completely different and legal and indeed meaning, that is, a person with his active anti-state actions and actions. anything directed against the belarusian people leads to the fact that such decisions will be made against them. yes, this entry into force of a court verdict is also important. that is, this is a criminal investigation. it's a lawsuit entry. eh, in force. uh, the court's decision is a court verdict against this citizen being abroad, or either the enormous harm that he causes. uh, the republic of belarus as well. it also contains the norms of the law that if a person is in military service, occupies a state position, some state position in a foreign state, then this

is also the basis for the loss of citizenship. but it is natural that this addition to this law will be discussed in the working groups and in the oval hall. we said it will be more procedure. exactly how this loss uh, procedurally will be carried out. we have a commission on citizenship issues under the president of the republic of belarus, where, accordingly, documents are prepared and a commission is prepared with the participation of representatives, e and heads of the presidential administration of ministries of departments of the deputies, the whole composition is indicated by the president, before submitting to the decision of the head of state there will be all these grounds filter again check again. it's like granting citizenship such loss of citizenship, because which, in my opinion, is more than detailed. we talked about this further, who are interested can read the laws. although i believe that this law is narrowly special, it is only for those who really tried very hard

to harm the state. so he needs to study this law for all other citizens to live in peace, you are not even interested. this topic. she's definitely not right for you. the topic of security, let's talk about it globally. moreover, in this sense, a lot of things threaten us. it is, of course, launched in the nato summit in vilnius was some kind of unhealthy hype, this time they began to talk about it for a long time somewhere absolutely objectively. it deserves to be screwed up somewhere. well , for example, why doesn't he tell us about this? if perishing as something, well, too close to us. it is no coincidence that vadim chose several aspects closer to the borders of the union state. first, it means that they naturally show that we are here nearby asking for a permanent deployment, not a rotational official deployment, reinforced groups, troops, a nation at our borders. it's on purpose shows we are here we are near we are near and they,

but at the same time scary, judging by the way vilnius guarded. how many typewriters are ready to lock everyone up, you understand, they are there on the outskirts, it is clear that they are not spending in the very center. so, in essence, the first issue here is the membership of ukraine is speculation. i just want to understand that everything is happening separately, let's talk, but so that what is happening regarding this issue, no one plans to do it, so to speak, because no one is interested in ukraine, so to speak. these military actions demonstrate to us that they will nevertheless, no matter how much we would like to bring. this special us military provocation in europe is at least 24 years old before the political processes in the russian federation. why it doesn’t supply weapons that’s what nato is discussing completely and quickly, they need to fill up this porridge, the boiler, to keep the fire going so that it doesn’t boil away, it’s not even profitable for them , so that it’s not russia or ukraine that won the decisive victory because it’s, well, on

some battlefields , because it forced to sit down at the negotiating table. and they need to destabilize the region. it is natural to understand that this is a threat and both. our answer yeah , asymmetric, but understand that we will be destroyed from within in uh. well, let's talk about nato in more detail, we'll discuss it very close to us. and we are one way or another, then the whole world is involved in what they were discussing there yesterday, firstly, it’s not like a man, and secondly, zelensky was then offended and vilnius was not with his foot, but he arrived, although already before the start . it is clear that they do not take even before the meeting nato members. german publications reported that the united states and germany blocked ukraine's entry into nato, that is, first they inspired zelensky , then they land him on the other side. didn’t he understand that no one takes or where he got it from ? this is the idea that this topic can be relevant at all, why it arose nikolaevich zelensky is a wonderful manipulator and a very good actor, i have already

spoken on this topic more than once, but the ability to use any informational occasion of their interests. he has it very well it turns out to be himself. if he outplayed, he would be sure that his bet would play out. what a player who clearly understood that at the moment he is a real tool in the hands of the euro-atlantic union to weaken russia to destabilize the situation in this region and he had many advantages, because well, everything he asked for was what he demanded they gave him everything. pay attention to weapons of various types, starting there from javelins, ending with aircraft. we have discussed before. in this same studio, a year ago, somewhere, it was asked question. will the planes be given them and in the near future there will be more of them

. this is not the point. the fact is that the reorganization of the world is underway, there is a real process of restoring a multipolar world, and ukraine has been chosen as a tool by the west in order to prevent this from happening today, the reality is this. and zelensky believed in his, so to speak, exclusivity that he can, and he knows how to manipulate, certain hmm information flows, and to some extent zelensky, practically convinced himself and convinced a large piece of people or society that including foreign society, that without him anywhere and this allowed him, among other things, to convince himself that he will achieve this decision within the framework of nato from interesting and at the same time disturbing messages on the eve of the macron said that the bet decided to transfer long-range missiles to ukraine actions for, as he again explained, the support for the offensive of the armed forces in

the kremlin reacted to peskov's quote. naturally. this will force us to take countermeasures. this topic has already been discussed several times; first , the uk spoke about it and gave the same missiles such but yes, yes it is in its range in its characteristics. they are comparable. after that, france took the same step . not because she wants this for the macron, it is necessary to show its importance in europe, it must show that it is no worse than great britain here. mm struggle for power in european. uh, let's say in the theater that it is stronger than germany , including france is fighting germany for leadership and so on, but this is nothing more. how , again, is the information stuffing on this wave to show how great we are, that we ready to go to the end and so on. no more than that, they will give rockets, we will already talk about this and dali and they will give and give everything that is possible, including everything that shoots everything that brings the peak will be when there is some kind of

hacking of the situation in russia, it will be as soon as it will stagger. if this is what it is, it is clear that if russia now inflicted a crushing defeat, what alexander grigoryevich e spoke about during the counterattack , you laid down these main divisions there, which are still in reserve. of course it would, uh, forced kiev would go to negotiations and not the fact that after reaching an agreement. it would not restart the situation after some time, but at the current moment they are waiting for the x hour when the maximum impact. but if now they are probing for a breach in the defense, and here are these uh cluster munitions that will be transferred by the united states. america , we'll probably talk about it later. this is how and why in the first place to break through the defense. yes, here is a military military commissariat. in this case, he, if you read his telegram channel, referring to the guys who are on the front line there claiming to be hit by those most powerful cluster bombs already. i mean, they're already there. if you believe the people who are there with ivanovich how do you look at the threats that increased after that vilnius itself

knowingly gave him and were afraid, how do you evaluate or overheated? i think that what is the complexity of the situation for nato and why were there such expectations from the summit on the part of ukraine because yes, zelensky is an actor, but the most important thing in his position is not acting, but pure business, so he, uh, besides the fact that he is an actor and a businessman says a million, but he does business on politics. and what is the policy of ukraine, it is a weapon and a spearhead against russia, namely the west, what is the precariousness of nato’s position now it needs to make such decisions so as not to get into trouble and i consciously say this word not to get into the third world war and continue the fire. it is precisely the confrontation with russia in the form of a special military operation and hostilities in ukraine, so ukraine needs support. in order for this escalation and then it continued and continued in the right direction.

yes, there were hopes that there would be a counteroffensive, there would be some successes , there are no successes, except for the seven villages there, which they uh liberated according to them, oh, which actually do not exist, which are in a vulnerable position. eh, because they captured the lowlands. they are just settlements of the square, and now the war is not for the square, therefore, the program, uh, the maximum of the west which one is to destroy russia and right? the point of view was said here that it is necessary to create conditions for the internal collapse of russia and when the events happened, uh, on the twenty- third. e june, yes, then there were certain hopes that it had begun, but they simply did not have time to very quickly, it was all localized, therefore, in essence. what is now, what happened and is happening now a little over a year ago, when we introduced a visa-free regime in uh, the baltic states, uh, after a while poland i quoted here

the words of a simple citizen of lithuania who is by nationality. well, someone from belarus was born there, and he said. what is the difference, uh, the situation in the west in lithuania from belarus, he says that in belarus you are trying to make a person out of any fool here. in our country, on the contrary, it makes a fool out of a person. what is the point of vilnius itself , that they made a fool out of ukraine, not only from ukraine, i, as an anecdote, will cite what is happening on those themselves, which means that local residents in lithuania noticed that with the streets of vilnius disappeared old trolleybuses 160 still of czechoslovak production in the eighties appeared on the streets like this, but still in this way. i wanted to show that the country is still ok a new technique has appeared, but they themselves are outraged by such show-off a couple of examples of what and how they think about this, please, and why should we hide that we are a poor

country, and the grass will be painted ashamed, even while reading why hide what is ordinary why you need to look better prettier than you really are. you think that no one knows anything, that the world's millionaires do not know how lithuanians live. what a terrible backwardness everywhere is a disgrace. so close pensioners with the poor, otherwise it will ruin image. well, right away when you look at this, the picture is set on his complex. the main thing is that the canoe should like it, probably, you know such logic as complexes. maybe he is a modest person, but i would like to say that he is there, you know that he probably turned out with his colleague. zelensky showed everything here and asked for money, but they wear it like this in this way. yes , behind such a facade hides a really real problem from the outside. and we know that if your for this , a lot of people do not have enough jobs with the economy is not doing well, maybe

you should have thought about your citizens to show problems to focus on with you. of course, of course, they now have a completely different problem. they e through their binoculars see the enemy of the union state. for them, we are enemies. although historically. we have always lived nearby and could be great neighbors, yes, russia and so on. well, we'll live and see. but if we talk more about ourselves, if you let me hmm well , after all, somewhere it warmed the soul so much that it was written in the commentary that, and today the alliance does not seek confrontation with russia it also seems to me such a signal that the third world war. we do not want we are not idiots. uh, vadim said that they didn’t want negotiations, yes, that is, they can’t allow negotiations between russia and ukraine, you know who knows him? look today, no matter how the counter-offensive is, it, well, it doesn’t have

the obvious results that the alliance was waiting for from ukraine, they don’t exist, what will happen? tomorrow we don't know, uh, i'm certainly not a military expert but analyzing the opinion of military experts. i don't think that's it long-range weapons, which have already been additionally provided to france , are not cluster weapons. ah, ammo. they won't decide anything on the battlefield. yes, there will simply be more victims, there will be more trouble today. uh, maybe, uh, the united states of america wants to save face somewhere. you understand, if suddenly russia wins, but suddenly who loses america and not, there are two options for ukraine to win today, either we play for a long time, and then we'll see, or before the twenty-fourth year. still, you need to think and come up with some kind of option. in america get out of this situation. still , it’s more beautiful, it seems, not a loser and

at the same time, in order to somehow change this situation a little, but let's live and see. after all, what does the president say today that let's sit down at the negotiating table. and even in principle, it assumes that such negotiations between russia and ukraine will be possible. in autumn, i would very much like it to be the first, of course, i am outside the positions of alexander lukashenko from the first day, we are supporters of the negotiations. but i i want to tell you so, any military specialist to tell you, uh, and any such project, which was being prepared for more than one, not one year. there are several scenarios, practically there are, scenario, cover-ups and so on. and russian american geologists are ready to justify everything with them. if it is necessary to explain any event, they have already learned how to manipulate the mass consciousness from all sides, so let's get down to business. now what will happen? as i think, naturally, we will facilitate the negotiations as much as possible; the question is, what is the contractual position

parties, if your contractual position is e, unbalanced and one of the parties will be dissatisfied. they will leave you a minus of the windward action. well, that's right, the sooner we sit down and stop the b- collision. it will be better anyway, but the task, in my opinion, of the united states of america, we should not join nato and unite this entire group of more than thirty states, as one whole these are different groups. there are major interests. this is the united states, their allies, canada, which means, uh. well, they are and respectively great britain. here they are there on this now. warm handles. there is an impact force. ukraine has a reserve. this is primarily in poland in the first place. poland is the one who pays the bills, it's europe that pays for this whole concert not the us pays europe and the us is interested in giving the appearance that they are interested in stabilizing this situation. once again i say to drag out the conflict, at least until the political company of 24 years in russia pump the situation from the inside, not a single country in the world

can be indefinitely in state of constant mobilization. now they are none. they for uh first their task. look at 58% of the world's reserves in the dollar indirect direct calculations 88% of the world's calculations in the dollar. and they kept all this. thanks to this military operation, they took control of the energy of the european union, which are not idiots, or what? why stop it? therefore, they will only stop if they see an immediate threat. i have been saying all this for a year and a half, until they feel threatened. they will here tilt europe and push e ukraine into ashes of war. unfortunately, and we have to do everything to ensure that what my colleague says about following the negotiating table, the more time passes we see, it's really impossible to disagree with you with what we see in all the hmm action of the west and shipments of cluster munitions prior to that. this is with combined uranium and so on and so forth, they need ukraine as a military base under the guise of the state to double assistance. now let's listen to

the president. the further, the further this situation goes, the less promising becomes a discussion about the world for ukraine , the president spoke about it. foreign journalists asked him questions about this. as you can see the situation, here is a small fragment of what the president answered today from ukraine, you can talk and reach some kind of peace agreements. i mean, not so much belarus e as russia, she will talk after the so-called counteroffensive. the situation will change and whether they want to talk to you zelensky reinforced concretely declared, we will support you, we will arm, we will give we will never give up as much money as we need, and then the woman's wings appeared, he flew. what's going on? now he finally understood that he would not win this

war. at different paths of the country on local tragedies and feats, remember ah the viaras and the heroes this month of the maton, the kirana took the children, took them away from the nobles who were not attached. even the wise yanas are shackled from the old man's truth and sheathing the vorta, they tell the memory of the usens, also hacked from bronze and they died, the eternal clock starts up the stairs. you rebuff that you could be so yourself extraordinary, i'll have an idea. rather, a good implemented complex with the improvement

of belarus documentary. cycle the memory of my land on the tv channel belarus 204 our land through the eyes of foreigners, i came to belarus from sunny from dagestan to study and get a higher education. i have been working for 19 years. and here at the enterprise. we manufacture various wall walls for construction. how did they end up in our country and why did they stay here to live, and i listened to my uncle’s advice, and he told me that belarus is a beautiful country, minsk in general, one city the best. that's education. there one of the best culture of nature. everything is beautiful here. everything is. that's true, and me. for this, i personally arrange everything. watch in the program a look at

belarus on our tv channel. there is still a nato summit, it is being discussed now. we will soon know what happened there today, but the situation. in another, i personally, as a person who deals, in general, with geopolitical geostatic issues , was very much hurt by the topic of the escalation of tension. it can be seen in all decisions, especially in the joint nato decision please note that today they are no longer talking about europe or the north atlantic space. they talk about world space and as one of their prospects, let's say, er. the opponents are called china and china is completely on the other side. so let's say our large

eurasian continent. what this means is that no one is going to, uh, stop using the force factor in political battles. this is the first second moment. e clearly in the nato joint statement there is a paragraph stating that it supports the option of getting out of the political situation, proposed by ukraine, that it says this will return everything to normal again and next to the russian federation there will be an e nato member with appropriate infrastructure, appropriate training, which will continue to pursue this policy, expansion and the destruction of everything russian that has been throughout all these years. the third point, as for, again , no one is talking about the prospects for the near future, oh, how

we are now discussing the issue precisely negotiation process, peace process. they don't talk about it. they condemn belarus and russia for hosting nuclear weapons. they talk about the need to go back to before everything that has long been lost. sorry to everyone they say they need to be concerned about what's going on here, but no one talks about we stop supplying arms. this is the main point that should be discussed today. even if they already have enough. well, his stocks are small, in fact, compared to what they were. were sure that this would be enough to bring russia to its knees in order to destabilize the situation in russia and for russia to once again destroy its state by an internal coup. and this was the main calculation and is not removed. he continues the issue of the game in a long

year for them - it's called pah. this is a very short conversation about the five-year period, maybe for decades they are ready for this, because as soon as the ukrainian events end. god forbid, in their opinion, in the interests of russia russia will solve its strategic tasks. everything will fall down the whole world based on the rules. they know about it, they connect topics, but against all this background, if we touched on fragments of the press conference. it doesn't even look ridiculous when a foreign journalist talks about the last dictator again during an interview. on the road. reuters journalists. it's so tempting to ask, are you kidding or something, one goes to john's concert when paris is on fire, the other endlessly freaks out publicly experiencing dementia. here it is again. let's see the canoe for klinilo, if you're interested in what they kick. i'm kicking the stands is not working.

how about that ? we have to change today before me no. dictator and if the dictator is not the last, well, while we are hiding all this from the biden, the old macron trolleybus, he himself hiding from the anger of the people, he is lukashenka in the workshops of mogilev left-handed and talking about earthly things about the development of production markets. that is turns out that's exactly what he meant. here is vladimir alexandrovich alexander lukashenko when he said that life without war is the result of painstaking daily work. firstly, lukashenka does not reign according to the dictator. he serves the people and the country. this is proved by the results of the 29-year term that he received the country 29 years ago, when law enforcement agencies wiped their feet. in the center of the capital , the palace of the republic stood under a collapsed fence, next to it

, the kupalovsky theater collapsed, economy on the shoulder blades , pensioners queuing for groceries. and today we are on a variety of indices. he is the world's first minimal child maternal death natures best access to health education. uh, the minimum gap in the cis countries between the upper strata of society, so to speak , the wealthy and the less wealthy, then all questions of national security and stability. so that's the kind of country we are building power is based on the following principles. it is money and resources is power. and this is consent in society, social stability, for which lukashenka says that we want peace, let's get a quality job if we don't have a strong economy. we will not have the funds to buy the necessary or produce the necessary resources. we will not have the means to provide and support the power bloc and we will not have the means to maintain socio-political stability, therefore

the belarusians. we keep the world lukashenka's power. they will do everything that two comparisons can even before their eyes. we've discussed this before. and now we are discussing what is happening with us. we see that he is there. collects himself here. the nato team is hiding the old trolleybuses instead of dealing with problems here. after all, we, too , could write off a lot of internal issues to the fact that we really need to spend more on the army to ensure security . sorry guys. now it’s not up to this and the president would have been sitting. there, from morning to evening , somewhere in the headquarters and dealt with the situation to the national groups. and that's it. it ca n't even be discussed. not everything is with them, of course. why are you here, so that citizens understand, we introduce tactical separate weapons were introduced here , among other things, in order to spend less money on confidential weapons, that is, we can deliver an asymmetric response and, uh, this allows us to stretch out in time. uh, the rearmament of our armed forces, the strengthening

of our grouping, but they know that it is impossible to climb here today. we have such a weapon that can inflict a serious area on them in terms of our security. we are talking about ours, we have kept the peace on the belarusian lands, not a single belarusian soldier has set foot on someone else's during the time of independence earth. uh, it was for waging war for peacekeeping functions that injections were also made to kazakhstan, as uh, uh, a member of the csto uh, we went out and assisted, but we see that what is the essence of these decisions that nato made, they made a decision regarding ukraine what are all the decisions against us? against us, they decided to increase there by half. uh, military assistance in the supply of weapons. it plays against us. they shortened the path to nato for ukraine. and most importantly, they decided that they would accept ukraine into nato when the fighting ended. actions when the fighting is going on. we

are not interested in this, and russia is also not interested in fighting. and when we agree, well, russia will agree , and there will be a truce with ukraine, it will become a nato country, this also plays against us, that is, not a single decision regarding us and the union state of belarus and russia, uh, in. nato is not accepted, that is, they are working for escalation, so what is important for us to ensure our national security in all areas, including the economic one, and why the president now and mogilev the elevator, uh, visits both the fields and the farm, because we are export -oriented , the state will not be economic with vadim rightly said we will not have everything else, so we not only have to support our economy, but we must also support and develop opportunities for growth not only economically and politically and culturally and as a nation. we must develop we have achieved a lot in e. during our

independence, we built a sovereign country and the main task in the message is clearly formulated to preserve the sovereignty and independence of the belarusian state and to do something for this. we e need to do. we all understand, we know it is necessary to make sure that there is stability in society, so that we develop further, so that, as a nation, we improve. we have everything for this, we have a nuclear power plant, we have space, we flew. we have something to be proud of, but we must continue to develop. they hide in the buses of no one. nothing. look, the formula sounded in mogilev from the president is the lack of discipline. about what alexandrova says the lack of discipline is a failure a failure this is a war. everything starts with the economy, so nato nato needs to learn about its own tasks, as this is a formula that the president proposed or announced. she, in principle, has been voiced by him for a decade. pay attention. you watch the president's speech. for at least the last 5 years.

before that, maybe 10 years. after all, this is the main thing if there is stability, if there is. e understanding if there is responsibility at any level from the lowest to the highest. eat the state, if there is a state, there are appropriate forces to ensure national security, appropriate resources for the development and formation and, probably, stable stable development of the state. and here i would like to draw attention to another phrase. after all, the president to speak depends on everyone not only national security, but also the development of the country. this corresponds to reality in our people. the state is a powerful spike of power and people, so we are still alive and developing, and i would to this, such, probably, not a thesis, but a postulate added to them. if we weren't interfered with, we would

not know at what level of development belarus would be if we weren't forced to turn to incomprehensible neighbors at nato who are constantly rattling their weapons. and all this resource was directed to the development of the state. today we have here no worse than it was in the emirates. or maybe better marina alexandrovna yes, you know, i'll hold nikolai ognevich, indeed the president speaks about this clearly and understandably. and you can even bring a couple of his such, uh, capacious statements, and stop there. here is his favorite. get undressed and work, work, do everything, and give me the economy everything else. i will do for you. he really stressed that the economy is very important , it will develop, we will have everything and we will have a pension, we will have, uh, wages. oh, our country will develop. you know, despite all the difficulties that we face today, despite the unprecedented ones. uh, sanctions pressure. i,

unfortunately, forgot. and whose was it statistics, but the statistics were foreign and belarus got into the top 10 countries, and yes, the top 10 countries for hmm yes, moving from life, you understand among the british world among canada, i just wanted to emphasize what kind of frontier statistics, so we are doing everything right , but of course we must go ahead and work and understand that we must and it is very important to do this. and of course, do not relax today is the time. thank you very much for, uh, participation in our program in general, the program itself is still going on in a couple of minutes, another interlocutor. we have today russian political scientist sergei mikheev so see you. thank you very much , the russian political scientist sergey mikheev

sergey alexandrovich is in touch with us. hello which apparently , foreign journalists recently tried to torture the belarusian president by placing tactical nuclear weapons in belarus. well , in general, alexander lukashenko said everything about the interests of our country, but what tasks does russia solve in this way? well, as far as i see it. yes, i cannot answer, so to speak, for the whole of russia , the russian authorities. but as far as i can see it is, in general, a necessary measure. yes, that is , uh, here to think, uh, what is it? uh, it means that moscow has dreamed of placing nuclear weapons there in belarus and moving them to the territory, so to speak, to another state. well, somehow naive, it is clear that this measure is forced to be connected. she, uh, with the pressure that nato puts on both russia and belarus on the allied states. uh, and this is a measure that should apparently give a signal that, in principle, russia is ready for the

toughest measures. she pushes her most. e, it means that the most serious powerful forces, as it were, are pushing closer to the borders. that is , it is a measure of containment of nato, that's actually and that's it. yes, this is the first second, i think that we are showing nato that in the event of aggression against belarus, russia will defend this territory, among other things. because nuclear weapons are deployed here, that is, uh, if uh, well, the enemy, uh, let's call it directly , decide, for example, let's say from belarus to do about the same thing as with ukraine and even move closer to the borders of russia there for a couple there for a couple of thousand kilometers, yes or for a couple of hundred kilometers, yes , then russia, uh, including poets, for a reason, will react as harshly as possible, that is, the first is the containment of nato the second is an unequivocal hmm signal that that against belarus any actions. yes, russia will be regarded as practically aggression

against russia, and it will, uh, react harshly to this. and so, in general, and in general, of course, everything, this is not from a good life. yes, and naturally. everyone would like to live peacefully, so to speak. here with each other so to speak trading and all that is easier, but in general, in fact, of course, this is all from the realm of illusions. so uh, like this, like this, like this, it's sweet, as if it had never been smooth, and apparently it never will be. the fact of moving tactical nuclear weapons is in itself such a symbol of trust and mutual support. and that means a very definite signal, which they will also receive there. trust. yes, of course, this is a very serious trust here, to be honest, more serious measures of trust cannot even be invented, because in fact we show that president lukashenko and his team of the belarusian people. we trust the keys, including those of our own destiny. that's what is important, yes, that is, a little. neither less nor more nor less. i think that here, er, there can be no two opinions, this factor of having these weapons

on our territory can give such a long-term effect, but the impact on the enemy. well, it’s hard to say here, because here exactly such is the situation in which the war that russia is waging e yes this conflict that russia is waging with ukraine and in fact with nato that ukraine is using as consumables. she goes in such a rather specific style that raises questions. well, including me, for example, yes, you know some kind of such an infantry war using conventional weapons, and that's it. this made it possible for our adversaries to believe that nuclear weapons could never be used. i think that such a delivery of the question is not profitable. not to us, and not to belarus, to anyone. yes, i think that our adversary must understand that nuclear weapons would not be desirable this has ever been applied, but what is it, can be approximately applied, and let 's hope that this step in relation to belarus yes will make them think about this topic.

although, again, as for me, the operation in ukraine, of course, should move more paradoxical for opponents , less predictable, less calculated, plus there is a poland factor. more, of course, i decided that she caught it here, which means some chance for her uh to your luck, a chance to build some kind of huge huge zone of polish influence. i don't say i won't talk about the commonwealth because, as for me. e, to be honest, the polish elite e cannot even manage ukraine, so even if it suddenly gets, so to speak, such such such opportunities, one of the problems in the polish elite is historical. this is her inner malice. if you like, yes extreme and polish nationalism, in fact, like any other extreme nationalist. he always narrows , uh, the scale of decision-making, that is, on the one hand. he. maybe, uh, so at the same time somewhere in a limited area limited, so to speak, time to give, but a certain effect, but in general. uh, the radical nationalist elites have never been capable of building such large

, large and viable hmm political projects. this is one of the reasons why polish projects fail, as it were, from century to century, they seem to have something. then, once again, everything starts to fall apart. yes? it seems to me that this is from some kind of internal inferiority, to be honest, here, but now it seems to the poles that they can manage ukraine, they can get up there the main ones. in this case, they can increase their role, er, in their own in europe and here, of course, in belarus is a potential target for aggression. let's be honest, yes, it's not for nothing that they have been talking about you for so many years. so, the molotov-ribbentrop pact and that's it. consider offended for good reason. they support the belarusian position and everything connected with it, and now they are also asking the americans to place nuclear weapons on the territory of poland. so i think that, of course, these are also signals to the poles, whether they can again so here's to your question about whether they can realize it. uh, well, i think that uh should be, but maybe we're a bit lacking in toughness, so to speak, sharpness and, uh, unpredictability. e in your actions. but this is my personal opinion. yes, i think that we

act too predictably too linearly and sometimes our moves, as it were, and our motives, so to speak. they overcalculate the enemies, in general, all these games of gentlemen. here, as for me. we must finish. well, you touched on the topic that the polish authorities are trying to convince older fans to host nuclear weapons according to the principle that moscow-minsk is handing over and now we also need it, but another question. here, will they give them this weapon? here's your version will go to this west well, let's still rearrange these positions a little here, but in fact the poles. about and before russia accepted. this is the decision such conversations were made by the poles asking for a serious increase in the military in the presence of the americans on the territory of poland, yes, as it were, building a whole system of military bases there and everything else, and to a certain extent , the decision on the russian metro weapons of belarus was the answer to precisely these things . yes, so the question here is what it meant, the first chicken or what, it is important in

my opinion. yes, but all the same, these retaliatory measures are, once again, rather big risks for russia. yes, and therefore she went for these things, as it were, yes, because the dangers of the danger are quite serious indeed, there are quite serious ones. will the americans? this is a weapon for the poles, i think not. by the way, this is also interesting. i think that moscow trusts minsk much more than washington trusts warsaw, that's all. yes, including, because once again i repeat the polish elite is stricken with some kind of illness, you know, so to speak. here is such an inner malice. and by the way, ukrainian nationalism in a strange way. e seems to be like being, uh, it means that he adopted a lot as a counterweight there or, let's say, an antagonist to polish nationalism. eh, hell. uh, and even in the worst form of polish nationalism. this is an incredible limitation. so to speak. sometimes absolutely stupid malice. here is the readiness to take the most absurd steps there. even though it might be, if

you count ahead, it will, uh, become a problem there. well, i, for example, let's say directly, as it were , yes, but they refer to the eve of the second world war, so to speak, the great patriotic war, when well, poland played a serious role. e is what happened is what happened in the end. the first agreement similar to the fact of a molvindrop was concluded by the poles. uh, with hitler, as it were, yes, and not at all the soviet union of warsaw did it with berlin, that's why. eh, going back to your question, so to speak. i very much doubt that the americans went for it. these are too big risks, too big risks, especially against the backdrop of ambition, meanwhile, in general , escalation is observed in other areas. we see that from a fresh macron said that paris has decided to give ukraine a-a long-range missiles. for, as he said, support for the offensive of the armed forces in the kremlin on the eve of peskov reacted naturally. this will force us, uh, to take countermeasures. and here

the question really arises. how to answer here in the telegram they have already begun to joke that, maybe it's time for the french rebels in paris to get support in the form of manpads and grenade launchers, but it's actually not funny in this situation. here, how do you see it? well, these are missiles for trying to strike deep into russian territory, in my opinion. uh macron. uh, like many other european, so to speak, current politicians allow e great stupidity, because france will not receive from this, absolutely nothing to the question, what does it get europe from the fact that she plays these games, absolutely nothing, yes, the americans, uh, achieve certain goals. and here you can argue, yes, but the europeans only lose, because they are getting closer and closer to expose the situation. it's a big war in europe i hope it doesn't happen because it's one thing to send it there. so to say, weapons and ammunition to ukraine is another thing to directly participate themselves, but er,

that way they really make the situation. more and more dangerous. it really is. although, i think that we are here i am leading the russian side. of course, we spoiled them a little in this sense, because if more resolute ones had acted unequivocally from the very beginning , a special operation might have been on its course. others from the very beginning. i think it was necessary to act more decisively in relation to the political leadership. uh, that means u ukraine yes, and now what we will introduce ourselves, you know, again, somehow we all play such gentleman's games, like, well, we are there, somewhere there, which means we are fighting in the east of ukraine actions and all the rest can feel safe. yes, zelensky goes wherever he wants, so to speak, the macron, that he wants to allocate europeans to the americans. uh, so, uh don't feel any problem with everything that 's happened, it gives them a sense of permissiveness. well, what, let's put more such missiles, but russia hasn't done anything specifically to us. let's put these. russia has also done nothing in this sense. uh, the only, by the way, in my opinion, really serious step

is just this moving part of our weapons in belarus are nato themselves in vilnius, and kiev, as we saw, was very prepared, and it was like that, you know, and the multi-genre performance is a bit of a thriller when they pumped up the theme of strikes on a nuclear power plant a little. tragicomedies, when zelensky promised not to come if the partners, well, they don’t show themselves like a man, they won’t accept him into nato, but we see that, in principle, they are not expected there. first, the american edition, even earlier forino, the feuer conveys hmm the general mood that reigns in the west, and it wrote that the united states needs to close the nato door to ukraine because the risks are higher than the benefits. well, then the bild just mercilessly hits the forehead when it publishes that the united states germany has blocked ukraine's entry into nato well, it seems that zelensky does not give up, firstly, people come from where such sergey aleksandrovich is all the excitement around the current meeting. nato does not have the feeling that we are talking about some kind of decisive stakes. first, yes,

with regard to the admission of ukraine to nato in my opinion. uh, now they are linking this issue with the success or failure of the ukrainian counteroffensive, in my opinion. ukraine nato would not have been taken in any case not in any case not in any other case not in the case. quiet not in case of no success. it's a game. now they will design a pr-scheme. this pr-scheme will be the first two things, indeed, a real increase in new packages. arms is to build such a pr scheme, so to speak. for example, there is the council of ukraine council of ukraine of nato, what will mean, so to speak, in reality, what powers it will have is not at all clear. yes? there will probably be some. well, in short, green i must apologize to bring to kiev, uh, it means almost that nato almost accepted our victory , so the kuleba says this, here. and how can you prove it, so to speak, because we almost have to accept it, and then he says to list all these pr, so to speak , constructions that he now has ukraine's

nato advice to him, that is, some kind of simplified procedure there. although so far, too, it is clear. and why it will stand is a simplified procedure. and when will it become possible? yes, i think such a thing, looking around. that's all those topics that we discussed with you belarus russia here is what we need to focus attention on now first of all? sovereignty sovereignty in everything e yes, firstly, the sovereignty of thought. yes, you need to unlearn, in the end, constantly compare your actions, your way of life , your way of thinking with someone out there who is, as it were, somewhere behind the cordon, because in your opinion it is not sovereignty. e thoughts. uh, the russian political elite in the first place. yes, to a large extent.