[000:00:00;00] the politician was not in power for so long in the netherlands after 1945 for his ability to get away with scandals and rue crises, he was nicknamed teflon mark . applications for asylum in the netherlands can apply for about 70.000 mg, a record for the last 8 years, the number of new elections in the netherlands scheduled for november, mark rutte himself said that after the formation of a new cabinet in the autumn will leave politics forever on the eighties anniversary of the volyn slaughterhouse. poland adopted a resolution calling on ukraine to admit guilt for the actions of nationalists against civilians in the vote. 440 deputies took part. all of them supported the resolution

, which states that on july 11, 19. 43, the troops of the organization of ukrainian nationalists and the ukrainian insurgent army repeatedly, supported by the ukrainian civilian population, attacked 99 villages populated by poles in the decision of the volyn massacre called the genocide of the poles planned by the leaders of the organization of ukrainian nationalists , the topic of ethnic clean in western ukraine during the second world war remains one of the most problematic in relations between kiev and warsaw. ukraine stubbornly refuses to recognize the tragedy as the result of the planned actions of the banderists, in which the zelensky regime is now glorified sweden as nato secretary general and head of the european council. in front of us there, nato vilnius stoltenberg said this after negotiations, as he told reporters in exchange for membership,

sweden agreed to lobby for the expansion of the mummified union of turkey and the eu and negotiations on granting ankara a visa-free regime with the european union to support these promises. the head of the european council has already expressed it. charles michel stoltenberg. he clarified that he did not know. how long will it take to complete the process of admitting sweden to nato, it consists in ratification by the parliaments of turkey and hungary protocol of acceptance of that country. well, today's program is summing up , commenting and analyzing. the results of the nato summit in vilnius and i want to remind you that there is a meeting of the joint committee in the pentagon above the entrance to the premises. chiefs of staff, posted. the inscription planning is all plans. nothing by the north atlantic treaty organization in vilnius , some 200 km away, confirmed that the americans firmly follow this rule in the capital of lithuania, they threatened a lot. promises

destroyed the hopes and plans of those who took the risk build them without the consent of washington. we will talk about all this in detail, and nikolai evgenievich buzin is already present in the studio next to me, doctor of military sciences , professor, assistant chairman of the house of representatives of the national assembly of the republic of belarus hello, welcome to the studio of yevgeny semibratov, political scientist, deputy director of the institute for strategic research. vaniy forecasters from russia are pleased to welcome you to our studio and in addition, ukrainian military analyst expert yuriy dudkin is with us today, let us ties yuri i greet you from our studio. hello question traditionally the beginning of our discussion nato has grown stronger from the conflict in ukraine yuri want you to be the first to answer this question. well, nato

remained as it was, but only without ukraine , because it has been for decades. i will not be afraid of this word beyond promises ukraine is not accepted into nato and will never be accepted, confirmation, i agree. and what is an experienced politician compared to this carpeted parsley zelensky, so poroshenko and the diplomat, by the way, do not was able to register his presidency cadences to attract and mention ukraine as a nato member and everyone needs to be convinced that it should be in nato, therefore, mr. zelensky has no chance at all, and especially the europeans. i mean, the members of the euro-atlantic alliance understand perfectly well that becoming a member of nato is bad. nato ukraine in the first place.

nikolai evgenievich, your position, please, will become stronger in this bloc, a large-scale and full-scale war in europe. they have an additional resource to solve own tasks by others. and the second point, no matter what we say there, no matter how much we say that it is pouring in and this, by the way, was discussed, just a few years ago everything was going towards this and in all likelihood. today we would talk about the fact that e nato is slowly ending its existence, but it was the conflict in ukraine that made it possible to reanimate nato that made it possible to create not only the image of the enemy, but really restore the spirit of the cold war, let's call it that and transfer it to the hot phase themselves and created an antagonist. if i may. bring out, please, colleagues on the screen a map of nato expansion the stages of nato expansion yes we can comment on it and

talk about it in more detail, then everything went on before our eyes, starting from 1999 in stages russia first the soviet union in 1982, then russia was deceived and convinced that all this expansion is hmm they don’t threaten them with anything evgeny please, do you think she is so rep from the conflict in ukraine you brought this wonderful map to the point, which gives us a visual opportunity to see for ourselves the process of nato expansion which was both in the ninety-ninth and in 2004, when nato military infrastructure was getting closer and closer to the borders of russia and in the case of the crisis in ukraine we see one of the most important components, which is that ukraine has become very a profitable tool that provides the most important human resources for this. this

human resource. it is simply burned in the fight against russia of the end and edge. why is there a sin to conceal? well, unfortunately not yet. not visible at the same time nato is now very advantageous position, because, on the one hand, relations between the north atlantic alliance and ukraine are not systematized in any way. yes, they would now propose the format of the council of ukraine to nato, but we all understand very well that this is not a real tool, but ukraine's entry into nato is a kind of parking in front of the muzzle of osago , which needs to go further and thus the political combination that has developed most beneficial for the north of the atlantic alliance, you know ukraine with such charity and sacrifice a certain one is engaged in donating its territory, yes, the territory in fact and thousands of millions of lives of ordinary ukrainians in order

for nato to again such its own war. uh, belarus continued its resistance with the russian federation, also a republic, and nato in whom those at the summit in lithuania stated that they did not seek conflict with russia and did not pose a threat to it, well, they could not consider the russian federation their partner. nato wants to keep open channels of communication with moscow to reduce risks and prevent escalation, says document. well, probably for the sake of this, they were going to calm russia down but seriously, what other result could they expect in kiev when in power, well, it’s more like a team of losers who don’t know the history of the theory of international relations international law, when a country on whose territory between the great powers is being proxies have extended security guarantees , the point is that they resort to proxies when, for various reasons, they cannot or do not want to fight directly, but ukraine’s attempts to join the alliance in more detail, we look in our

story, the first talk about ukraine's entry into nato began back in 1994 at the first official. the appeal of the ukrainian government to the alliance was made only in 2008, at the same time, from the opposition of france to germany, kiev was refused, according to the french ex-premier , joining nato of this country could lead to a violation of the balance of influence between europe and russia since 2008, the alliance began to systematically feed ukraine with promises that they would fulfill certain requirements for certain circumstances. kiev will still get a place in the north atlantic alliance, 15 years have passed since that time. this question is still up in the air. although the promise is still heard. i proposed a three-point plan to bring ukraine closer. to nato, this is a multi-year support package to strengthen political ties through the consciousness of the ukraine nato council, as well as the abolition for ukraine of the need to fulfill the membership action plan. which will allow her

to shorten the process. despite all the plans and proposals from toltenberg, there is still no there was no official invitation. kiev to join the alliance, instead, the nato member countries offer ukraine alternative forms of interaction and assistance in order to somehow smooth out the refusal to fully participate in the organization. all this indicates that the nato countries are simply looking for an excuse not to take ukraine -firstly, it is now impossible to accurately determine the actual boundaries of the state, as well. secondly, ukraine's entry into the alliance obliges all other countries to intervene in their which as a result will lead to a full-scale war europe is not ready for this. western countries are supplying ukraine with air defense tanks and ammunition , everything the republic needs at the moment, and the entry of strange nato is now out of the question, another consolation prize will be the establishment of the council. ukraine nato

, according to stoltenberg, this council is designed to strengthen the political ties of the alliance with kiev . nato countries also promised to agree on a plan for many years. support of the armed forces of ukraine i i announce the next delivery of critical equipment. including artillery munitions, anti-tank systems and air surveillance radars to help protect the ukrainian people from aerial bombardment, essentially pumping weapons. the only thing that the nato countries have done for ukraine and , according to experts, it is much more profitable for the west to use ukraine as an instrument of war with russia as a training ground, while not fully engaging in open confrontation. how would you characterize the atmosphere that prevailed in vilnius on you, because we remember what kind of threats blackmail sounded from behind the lips, and ukraine in the person of vladimir zelensky and i think the result was completely unexpected

for his team, as many dreamed of. well, i don’t think that vladimir zelensky dreamed about this, but a certain group of outcasts, yes, some, and the ghostly membership in nato, she broke the situation. i would call it diverse and, to some extent , the loss of some kind of loss, as for zelensky, this is just a blow to his self-love and understanding of what is happening in the world. he is so convinced of his indispensability and that ukraine will get everything she wants and everything she needs , that this decision is a twofold decision, if it is the atlantic union at the moment, which has not ended, the invitation to nato for him is a serious blow like for a politician. well, he still considers himself a politician, and in all the media , it was stated in all on all platforms that we all

either won’t go, or we will go there as we say. on if we are not invited, but the option has come true, you have been clearly explained to him, until they invite you there about what i told my ukrainian colleague. this clearly confirms the words that were said that ukraine does not need to join nato, its resources are needed to fight russia, and i always try to rise above the problem, so to speak. sorry , no one needs ukraine today. this is one element. e strategic confrontation and the creation of a multi-polar world world today is the main major players. and so we don't say that the united states is not europe the united states russia and china are three really existing centers of power and a number of others that form

independently. many have noticed. yes, there is some kind of aloofness in the person of vladimir zelensky. and the atmosphere , of course, was appropriate because the western world is using ukraine exclusively in its own interests today in the pragmatic quite right and ukrainians. this is a huge tragedy for the ukrainian people. and there is still a chance, but i always remember it, but you know, looking at the photo, zelensky is so beautiful as an actor, which, in his expression the faces in the photographs are clear. and here's how not to recall an excerpt from the immortal creativity of elf and petrov. the great strategist could not understand in any way that resistance is useless . is sitting. he is pale triumphant and marathons no longer hustle around him, begging for a change for happiness

home, he will go on foot yuriy probably, this is the conclusion of the whole action. yes, i would like to turn attention and your viewers of our viewers and colleagues in the studio, touching on the issue of strengthening nato, that no strengthening , nevertheless, i insist on this thesis has not happened and will not happen, firstly, in military-technical terms , the countries emphasize. nato troops nato does not exist, i emphasize that there are no troops that are countries that are part of this bloc. basically, first of all, these are american troops that are in europe precisely from washington, which means that the nato bloc is funded by 2/3 by 2/3 - this is american money in the bloc nato and secondly, all the calls and urges that we will someday perceive

the nato bloc, meaning ukraine, which means that they are based primarily on the fact that ukraine , according to the plan of the same americans, has become anti-russia. and that's just on this basis. and these mockeries are taking place both over zelensky and over the ukrainian people as a whole. although incidentally. i want to point out one more thing to you , hope that for some reason everyone is talking about zelensky, yes, as a dictator, an already established dictator. do you understand that there is no opposition at all in ukraine . not right and neither left nor center-left. this is the first second, there are still those cells in ukraine, i emphasize the other ukraine and the other ukraine is already a generally recognized public organization under the leadership of viktor

medvedchuk, which is doing explanatory work among the ukrainian people among the ukrainian people about whether ukraine needs nato because there is no referendum zelensky therefore, the issue has not been and is not going to be held, and today, another ukraine is trying to make the ukrainian people understand through ideological messages that ukraine does not need this. this is her collapse. this is her downfall. and this is the testing ground for this, and the key is that the doors of nato for ukraine continue to be closed. let's hear a direct speech. nato secretary general jens stoltenberg i understand that zelensky is pushing for a clear timetable for joining nato at the same time, i believe that it is impossible to give a precise timeframe for when we are in the midst of a war. and i think that all allies will also make it very clear that the most

urgent task. now it is to ensure the victory of ukraine if we need to provide more military support, because if ukraine does not win, then there can be no question of any membership, because only a sovereign independent democratic ukraine can become a member of nato yes, nikolay mirkovich is in touch with us now head of an ngo, west-east, and a french analyst mr. mercury i am also very happy a lot. thank you for inviting me. skationfollowers after the nato summit in vilnius we can't note the growing rift between ukrainian leaders and western rits and both sides claim that misunderstandings have been ironed out, but i have reason to believe that the summit left many in kiev in deep despair, and they are suspicious of the real motives and intentions of the west regarding

the current war . do you expect zelensky and western leaders to be able to overcome this crisis of relations, this crisis should not be forgotten that the war is basically what nato has been training on the ukrainian army since 2014. we know they enjoy that ukraine uses. so nato is waging this war in ukraine and i want to say that zelensky will again be reminded of what his role is in this war, he is a puppet of the united states and i are not my words, this is nikolai azov, who was the prime minister, and ukraine he said that zelensky is a puppet of nato and his role in

being such a puppet is mr. zelensky and requires a lot, in particular, rapid integration. and why does he do it? because he receives, say , feedback, but from the military actually on front and things don't go the way he expects. and naturally, there is reason to believe that the russian defense is much stronger than the west believed and what zelensky believed, the military now in ukraine knows that this is the only hope for that. to change the course of the war, this is full integration into nato and the presence of nato troops on the front lines and more weapons from nato, but as we understand it, as we heard from the germans of stolberg. uh, the west is not ready for this right now . will inevitably happen if ukraine is

integrated into nato and of course ukraine is in frustration, but they will have to go through this, because zelensky a was a comedian and he served the people. now he is serving as president, but the us please be with us. i have one more question for you. please tell me, but based on the answers yes of our french guest and in general, based on rhetoric. west, we can say that in recent times it has changed a bit and has become softer in the relationship. and the russian federation and vice versa, this is it is beneficial for them to keep such zelensky, so that in case, and the search for certain points of contact says, yes, this is not mine. yes, these are ukrainians. here such here understand cannot be appeased. i would not say that the west has unilaterally become more accommodating. yes. let's first fast forward again to the vilnius summit if we look at the statement from

the outside. eh, the country, well, what, they said this to the next parties. e hmm nato weapons, another abstract, a guarantee of the fact that ukraine someday, maybe join nato and then unwittingly e in the head. uh, there comes a historical parallel with turkey's accession to the european union, which has been sitting in the dressing room for 50 years. for some reason, ukraine, at least, the ukrainian leadership does not like history as a subject and forgets that you can go to the library and open any textbook on the history of the 20th century and get acquainted with the fate of those countries on whose territory the confrontation of global centers of power. well, due to some kind of ignorance lack of education. we are seeing a similar reaction, and here are a few words about nato let's just wait a minute. i would like us, together with the audience, to pay attention to a quote from us

state department spokesman matthew miller, who said at a briefing that ukraine's entry into nato during the conflict would mean a war with russia let's hear a direct speech ukraine's entry into nato during the conflict would mean a us war with russia under president biden, this will not happen all clear. all clear. again we return to nato understands that it is globally continuing to solve the tasks that were laid down conceptually and in its essence. in 2022, a new concept or military doctrine of nato was adopted ; it spells out an adversary, the russian federation , possible, so to speak, promising, not a partner, but with those with whom china will have to fight and that’s it. this clearly fits into what is being done today, all the points are being fulfilled and it cannot be done so easily. and so it’s superficial

to treat the decisions that were made at the nato summit, because developers remain 300.000 grouping, which will be deployed on a permanent basis near our borders. so in passing. this is not counting this grouping plus the missiles that are already being delivered and allegedly ended today, they will launch the military industry, and it will continue to prepare and once again i return to the words of tangenberg, because, amazingly, we are at war today. not ukraine leads. we are at war today. and this is the main thing in what he said, they clearly understand. today they are howling with the hands of ukraine and preparing the entire nato alliance for a future war with russia. if it will not work with the hands of ukraine today, it will be poland, it will be other forces, but they are gaining time again and reformatting

their own industry, reformatting their own economy the minds of people who are scared of russia today god knows how and where the russians are today. let you confirm them abroad. how are russians treated? today they are lucky enough to be observers of a free conflict; they do not need to participate in it themselves. they themselves fight by proxy, using ammunition resources, which, in principle, need to be updated. it's lovely option to update your own. the system of the seventies of the eighties is what has already accumulated in warehouses and all this is to launch their own industry. and as and another small point, which for some reason, when we always click out of the decision, because it is clearly written there that africa, the eastern countries are now becoming a zone of their influence. plus, after all, china is inserted there again, china is why it is inserted . it is in the doctrine. and this task will be carried out, forces will be prepared for

further counteraction , the force will not leave politics. she is increasingly playing a role in coming run. if this continues, it is not known how. well, you see, you yourself say that the existential enemy for the united states of america today is primarily in china and sooner or later they will be forced to end this conflict and come to a certain agreement with the russian federation this is what the levels allowed and on what conditions they absolutely agree with you. let me address this question to our french guest mr. merkovich next years. united states and duerpin this year united states european union very interesting important the election is the election of the president of the united states and a. elections to the european parliament. will this lead to the fact that the western establishment will begin to move towards the end of the conflict in ukraine. no nato there made

me think otherwise of some really not planning to negotiate or escalate. why? this is so, aren't they afraid of the negative reaction of their voters ? no, they carry out the operation, then the operation is simply intuitive. it can be said it is not clear where this operation will go next, a new one appears plan to support ukraine because what was adopted in the previous month is simple. no one at work understands exactly what is going on there at all. and it's very scary. if you think about it, because you see how strong. uh, nato troops on paper, every month they have to revise the plan only. hmm regarding ukraine . this suggests that in fact it is necessary much weaker than we thought, and in fact, of course, in the west, there is a sensible policy

and now they would say that now good time to stop. we already have a huge number of hundreds of thousands of victims in ukraine, elections are coming soon, it would be nice to make peace, because there will be economic social political consequences of this war, when this is all over and these consequences will be around the world. and now is just a good moment to come to peace, the sooner the better, but this is not something that we are really shown taking very big risks, especially in conditions. elections, because we can hardly expect a quick victory, but they are counting on it very much, and they will try, but use their capabilities, the maximum results by the time of the elections may be even worse than we see now, again, here is the situation with the actions of the russian troops and there may be negative

consequences for the government for europe and for the united states for the allies, and they have already provided huge sums of money in military support to ukraine and may be in a very good position because we have very high inflation. we have a high level of social instability. did you see it in france? for so long we have had difficulties of an economic nature. we have a trade deficit of foreign trade and people ask. why don't we have money to support hospitals, to support schools , to support our own citizens. why do we instead supply weapons to ukraine, where there are no successes, and moreover, maybe russia will win this war in general. and what will be, then i see more and more people all over the west. they say it's time to stop this

war the problem is that the us to be honest, it's actually very good at influencing the political parties of the nato countries and the political elders. even it is an opposition party. there are so many western elites who think that nato is the key to protecting them and getting away from it. the west needs to vote for the leaders who will say. nato must come to an end, we do not understand why it should exist now, but historians of geopolitics. some politicians also talk about this and support this position. and i think that many people will watch very closely what will happen in washington in the coming elections, and it is by no means certain that aidan will win and the republican candidates include trump. they say it's

time to ahh put an end to this war and that could make a drastic difference. and he is nato racing against time, they are trying to push through this victory in the war, however, the political situation in their countries. uh, we are not contributing to this and most likely there will be a very strong negative reaction from people who do not want much from this war. thank you mr merkevich. could the situation change in the near future about this said during the recent big? conversation with representatives of foreign media belarusian leader alexander lukashenko let's hear the primorye speech. you have recently noticed the attack of actually vladimir zelensky against the powers that be, who will gather at the meeting in vilnius himself, he presented them with an ultimatum , in fact, like, i won’t go to the summit. if you don't do something there, listen to why

he behaves the way he does in the situation. this is very important point. especially for you and me for russia and belarus from the first maidan at home. if there had not been this preparation, there would have been no maidan, but they were preparing ukraine for this war, a war began. and do not think that zelensky ukrainian society, the leadership were fools did not understand. how it could end understood. but the united states, first of all, with the support of their thoughtless, e . we will give money as much as we need never quit, and then zelensky's wings appeared , he flew. and what is happening now? especially

since june 4-5, the so-called counter-offensive, he finally realized that he would not win this war, that this counter-attack would not end with anything for him, except for the death of thousands and thousands of people yuri please i want to hear your comment. and what do you think really counter come. here we, probably, hear the last six months and, frankly, all attempts. they are not crowned with success. and now the west is really in a position today intermediate observers. that is, they are waiting. yes, what kind of horse to put, that is, in fact , they put on zelensky. but if bolivar can’t stand two, then i think that they will change their position or turik and their position as a whole rather quickly. hope, they are already changing it, and they are changing me very quickly on the go, because indeed in europe and in particular in the united states they already understand

that zelensky is not the right figure, not the supreme commander with the help of western weapons, which can change in tactical and strategic position on the russian-ukrainian front. but it is already becoming. understandable even when you are europeans. i'll hold your foreign colleague, who, by the way, has already left. excuse me from the air, but in europe where i live now, yes, the situation is completely changing among ordinary voters, indeed, in the future elections of european elections in european states, the twenty-fourth year for elections, especially a record one. there will be generally unpredictable things traded between russia and the european union is still at a record level. here is for 2022. this is

absolutely open data, the trade turnover between russia and the european union amounted to 258 and 60 billion euros compared to 2014. it has grown many times, so eh yes , europe has certainly lost tens of billions of euros from sanctions, but , nevertheless, just take it and terminate all agreements between russia and the countries of the european union in terms of trade and economics, europe is not ready. well, of course, how things will go in ukraine and including in the war zone, does the loyalty of russia also depend on this or not? loyalty of europe europe does not want and emphasize does not want this military conflict to develop into a european conflict between europe and russia, so this is all very

serious. i remind you that on the air the program sas is authorized to announce summing up the results of the nato summit in lithuania evgeniy i think that we should sum up this event, how important it is and how much, as nikolai evgenievich says, we could read or detect all the key signals between the lines. and if we we are talking about here you know you can afford these. i think, in this case, such a term is about the hyenas of europe, poland, which is trying in every possible way. yes, but in a certain fight with the republic, belarus will enter and talk about the need to deploy nuclear weapons on its territory. how the overall mood and interaction between nato members will develop well, you really noted. eh, not a very small role of poland, but more claims to be

much larger. i would suggest one. this political science axiom of nato is written by the united states in mind, because, as nikolai evgenievich really says, nato is very conveniently using this moment. and so, uh, if we touched on the topic of the 2024 elections, then i would single out one election as the key ones, this is the election of the president of the united states of america and the biden administration , it is vital to get at least some success in ukraine, because now all politics administration is built on the success of the confrontation with russia, because now i will not quote one well-known american politician who dared to say that the best investment is in the murder of russian tape. graham said this during his visit to kiev and in the context of all these very targeted processes, which some tell us that there will be an escalation , others say that there will probably be

some kind of pacification. and i would remember that literally last week a very interesting statement came from germany as a theory, but from my point of view, from this statement. it already smacks of such feudalism of the xxi century, do not hesitate to say that, they say, let's take ukraine into nato in parts. and now, this is history. just fair enough. it seems to me that it will. if it happens, here i’ve made my own ukraine made such a detour to enter poland, which already without a twinge of conscience looks at both lviv and ivan frankivsk and other regions of western ukraine in the polish segment of the internet there are already jokes from the heading, we ask volyn lvov and that poland will become more active in this direction, it will do it. and at the same time she will do it hand in hand with the americans, because

that in europe there are two countries that behave in ukraine e. more aggressively than the americans do, these are the poles, who intend to take advantage of this crisis to establish their beloved great commonwealth and the second - these are the british, who, let's say, are the first to provide this or that type of weapon , be it shells with uranium. uh, the core will be rockets, what uh what storm shadow - it doesn't matter, as long as the british provide the americans are looking to see if another red line has been overcome. and now you understand that indeed, now we are in such a kind of political chaos, because there are too many signals that contradict each other. well, probably so historically , out of such chaos, sooner or later you will crystallize, a certain new system of international relations. i also want to draw attention, dear viewers, to our graph of the growth in defense spending of the member countries

of the alliance. which of them will be in 2020 the second year? spent the most money. well, among them are greece usa poland lithuania estonia and a lot others. in general, everyone is actively defending. yes, i can joke, of course, apparently, greece is preparing for the exit of turkey, so the truth is arming itself. yes, evgenievich can never give you the opportunity to analyze our graphical data. how much i have been dealing with this topic for more than a decade. um, i didn't . i'm so optimistic that this will eventually end, to be honest, that the us poland lithuania estonia will spend more and more. we predicted this a decade ago. this comes from the fact politics, because all this is determined by politics, the more unhealthy politicians are at

the head of the state, the more, uh, money is spent on armaments, this statistics clearly shows. yes, there are still those countries that still understand that the armed forces are not the most important thing in life. it doesn't matter how our president says the main economy, and it is a normal sane politician. he always says, first your own state, first your own people, and then all other issues. if it does, here's the main bet it is not done on this weapon, the main bet is on the fact that the russian federation will destroy itself from the inside, a lot of money has been pumped into it. and here are the events, including with pmc varner - this is one of the components of you. note that literally. well, for about the last 2 months there was a powerful information pump. informa- through all

channels that russia must collapse, scattering itself destroys. she loses. and this was invested not only by the international community, but also by the russians on them here, and a powerful impetus was needed. glory god that all this was neutralized. on time , and i had enough strength if i had gone in a different scenario, that's why the scenario was added more money of all kinds of freaks, added, and so on. it is not known how you ended up. we had russia in 1917, and they are trying to implement this scenario as soon as they can, and this and jezinsky and other political scientists. their goal is to destroy russia from the inside, there is no other way to topple russia. and they know it, so there will be a lot more money. downloaded. here the factor of strength becomes the main one and the factor of the unity of the nation

people in this situation, if this is implemented within the framework of the russian federation of the republic of belarus, we will expose, and not fall apart. well, i cannot but agree with you and i would like, of course, to draw attention to the position of hungary represented by mr. orban. you know such an island of adequacy in europe, urban criticized nato for conducting military operations on the territory of other countries. let's hear direct speech. we are in vilnius for two days. the most important topic of the nato summit is the russian-ukrainian conflict. the hungarian position remains unchanged and we will represent it instead of sending weapons to ukraine, we must bring peace, it is necessary to cease fire, and instead of war, as soon as possible, start peace negotiations, the position of hungary is clear. since the conflict is taking place in our neighborhood and tens of thousands of hungarian people are in immediate danger, because hungarians live in transcarpathia. hungary insists

that the alliance should not change its previous position nato is a military defense alliance. it was created to protect its participating countries, and not to conduct military operations on the territory of other countries. you can’t say better. quite right, yuriy. i know that you are now in germany. if i’m not mistaken, germany’s position today is maximally, honest and fairly accurate, and as we see from the statements of mr. history, how much he does not want to provide assistance to ukraine, because everyone understands perfectly well what the goal is death death again death, yes, well, again, about that notorious question of strengthening the bloc , you understand, well, what kind of strengthening can be bloc of nato if within nato in brussels itself there is a colossal disagreement

over ukraine and you correctly said that germany is also included, despite the fact that here, well, let's say, according to the privates themselves, there are none. e the german government is not quite adequate compared to the past e, means chancellor. as the minister of foreign affairs of germany , i remember the same general shire of the same kohl to angel merkel in the end. uh, all the same , the population of germany is generally perplexed as to how you can spend colossal money. just to throw them down the chimney just to satisfy the desire of the united states of america at the desire of the united states of america europe nato lose their sovereignty, especially the european states lose their sovereignty in all this, too, ordinary germans are outraged. it is clear that germany has been under occupation since 1945, the american occupation. i

say this quite boldly and the germans also understand very well, but nevertheless there is a limit to everything, as they say there were two germanys yes there were two germanys but east germany even no one i asked if she wants to join. she doesn't want to join. here you have all the democratic principles of europe taken united. and there, as you want your words. i would like to draw attention to the quote of the first nato secretary general, lord gassing from lionel. media please colleagues exist in order to perform three tasks in europe to keep the russians outside the americans inside, and the germans under control and here in english. it sounds even more beautiful

russians and down well, indeed, we are now faced with the fact that europe is losing the remnants of its sovereignty. moreover, this process began in the forty-fifth year. and if in the forty-fifth year we talked about the fact that germany lost its sovereignty, now the turn has come because of great britain for france. well, about other smaller countries in europe, they include the same big one here. unfortunately, there is no need to speak, in principle, i have already said the main idea in this direction, we are writing nato in our minds. and the united states of america the united states of america, due to political economic reasons, including their beloved state debt, which already there is an astronomical amount of even more than 33 million dollars. and it is clear that this financial bubble will burst sooner or later, plus. uh, if we're talking about global politics, we're abstracting it from the european

continent. we will compare the main doctrinal documents of nato and the united states of america, we will see, and two key thoughts, if there are now in nato, i will now say, roughly, as much as possible, so simplifying and exaggerating the enemy russia's number one enemy number two. china is in the american everything, on the contrary, well, as if today we already speak a little the language of arithmetic from a change in the places of the terms, the sum does not change. the most important thing is that the americans are really, and they are setting up for a global confrontation, but where will they promote it in the future, that is, it will be an escalation of war in ukraine to the last ukrainian, or it will involve the same poland what, uh, they are now talking frankly or, after all, the americans will decide to put out, freeze the conflict in ukraine and switch to taiwan one thing is clear, that two fronts. they, but frankly speaking , will not take out something, which is not yet clear

, a lot depends. including the successes, uh, of the armed forces of the russian federation directly in the zone of a special military operation and the failures of the armed forces of ukraine , something, probably, even depends on, uh , some elements of the obstinacy of european partners, what and what, i have in mind, nevertheless , we remember the frank political show that the germans staged when the issue of providing tanks to kiev was on the agenda, when scholz openly said that we would give a leopard only when the americans give abrams what happened, the leopards are on fire, but abram well, maybe, yes, the sovereignty of european states. today it is said that it is difficult, we are completing our unique evgenievich program in finality, dear colleagues. i am a supporter of the fact that one should not underestimate the enemy. this thesis is very important. today we are saying that

it did not work out at the summit, then it did not work out at the summit, but the summit did take place. eat decision they are all directed against russia belarus a union state and in the interests of, including the united states, including certain countries of the european union and the policy that is the basis for the existence of nato, it continues on it should have disappeared 10 years ago, it should not be, but it exists, and today nato has a target. why does it exist? he has an enemy again, he has the opportunity to use the resources of not only europe but also other states to solve not only his own problems. i liked it very much. uh, the quote is actually true. we write nato, we mean the united states, and until a definite decision is made in the united states, or they see that

investments do not pay off, and they threaten the existence of the united states, then an adequate decision will be made. and then we will be able to end this conflict as long as it exists, and it provides a danger from it. thank you very much yuri, i am grateful to you for participating in our 30 seconds program. i cannot but give you the right to the final word. thank you i hope colleague. i want to add the same thing that is really the enemy. she is the enemy of the entire slavic world, i emphasize the enemy, of course, cannot be underestimated, but victory will be ours. so thank you very much . everyone for today's interesting , extremely topical discussion, its main conclusion. nato has returned to what it was created for. to be a reliable and manageable instrument of american policy in europe

a return to the system of rivalry between the great powers leaves no other choice the time of playing for european autonomy multi-vector has passed about those who, like zelensky, decide to publicly buzz, quickly bring to their senses and show them their place, and how can one not remember the father of american great power, and president theodore roosevelt, who back in 1901 said our principle, speaks softly, but keep a big cudgel ready. thanks, that was the program. sasy is authorized to declare. nato is only interested in continuing the war at the hands of the ukrainians. everything that lives, modern, belarus today, watch on belarus 24 tv channel. this is the news of the country and

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