[000:00:00;00] that he is the new bread of the grodno region and the leader. in terms of yield of almost 200,000 tons per threshed about garry, the gomel region is the second fastest harvesting region, 3.35% of the area is processed here . today's rainy day will slightly slow down the pace of farmers throughout the country . it is possible that the wind will increase to 20 m/s, and with this the orange level of danger was announced, but already with tomorrow and at the weekend in belarus it will be hot and rainless. new information from my

colleagues at 15:00 on our air. all the best. hello on the air program sasha is authorized to declare. i and the presenter nadezhda sas greet you and remind you. this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening and understand how these processes , events, people will affect the life of everyone and the life of the country, and the main events of world politics this week. let's tell you right now. spain found itself in a political stalemate as a result of snap elections one of the parties did not get an absolute majority the question of who can form a coalition remains open before the elections, almost all spanish media talked about the rise of the far-right

conservative party and its future coalition with the conservative people's party. however, as it turned out , half a million fewer spaniards voted for her. rather than in 2019 . this came as a big surprise, especially after in may, she showed excellent results in local elections. far-right leader santiago abascal blamed all the people's party, which, according to him , conducted a too successful election campaign, pulling the votes of the conservative and right-wing electorate. a conservative people's party. although it won the largest number of seats in the country's parameter, it is unlikely that prime minister pedro sánchez's ruling socialist workers' party will be able to easily form a kalitsa to a better result than predicted and he himself claims that no new elections will be needed. but it is still far from certain that it is not excluded that in order to get working government to the spaniards. we'll have

to go to the polls again. in st. petersburg, despite the active opposition of western countries , the second forum was successfully held. russia africa the event was attended by delegations from 49 countries of the continent 17. of these , the key issue of discussion was the food security of the russian president. vladimir putin promised to provide free grain to the sixth states of this continent, the rest were assured of russia's readiness against the backdrop of expected record harvest to compensate for the losses from the lack of ukrainian grain on the market, we will be ready in the next month in the next 3-4 months to provide burkinos with zimbali from somalia of the central african republic free of charge. here we will provide 25-50.000 tons of grain and free

delivery of these products to the consumer. in addition, putin promised to increase the number of scholarships for african students and to facilitate the opening of branches of russian universities in africa . also correspondent points of the main media separate topics have become the prospects of building up flights between moscow and the capitals of african states. chinese foreign minister qinggang was relieved of his post , the decision was made by the standing committee of the entire chinese people's congress of parliament. china 57-year-old qingan stayed. in this post, less than seven months, his removal from office was preceded by his long absence from the public space in the chinese foreign ministry , information about his whereabouts and state of health. prc, he held this position from march 2013 to

december 2022. the russian king and exemplary warrior frederick the great once noted the negotiations without weapons, that music without instruments today in our program we will talk about negotiations and peace and weapons of war, and even the musicians themselves will help me understand all this andrey petrovich bogadel . deputy head of the faculty of the general staff of the armed of all belarus, candidate of military sciences. hello. hello and native alexandrovna gevordian political scientist in astrakhavet from russia hello, a person of purely citizens and in addition, i would like to introduce our distinguished guests who joined our program via video link, people's deputy of ukraine of the ninth convocation oleg voloshin and military analyst military expert yuriy dudkin hello yuriy hello nadezhda well, according to tradition, our program, our discussion , we start to come true question. do you think

that poland's entry into the war in the region is a realistic scenario for today , andrey petrovich, you, as a military man , know more than many of my journalists colleagues, well, to say in general what this entry into the war means today, as if by and large everyone says there is no war , a special operation is being carried out, various actions are being carried out that are related to counteracting ukraine and the russian federation . it's still an armed confrontation. and, of course, it falls by and large under this terminology, that this is really a military conflict and, of course, for e. ukraine - this is a war of no doubt. poland's entry into this conflict today. i think it is still unlikely, for what reason, firstly, poland

is not ready for this war at the moment. it is carrying out rearmament, it is carrying out modernization, first of all, the armament of military equipment. and, of course, the structure itself is changing at the moment. she has only three battle-ready divisions, one more eighteenth is in a state of formation. the first one is still, in fact , only on paper, and another one is in the distant, distant plans so that in 2035 , as they said, to form two complete hull kits. well, apparently. of course, they will accelerate this process somewhat and most likely, since all the main doctrinal military documents are being adopted in 2030. i think, too, uh, it is poland that is planning to discuss the medium-term perspective there, we will clearly show our infographics maps of indigenous people, but

there is certainly an ambition to enter this battle. well, modern warfare is very specific in this regard , one could say that more is involved anyway. uh, at the ukrainian theater of the military action deed, since the so-called polish volunteers there pack, please, that is, here the question is in which parrots e count e a, as regards one small remark? i have great doubts about rearmament, given the devastation of nato arsenals and the impossibility of restarting the vc for the war with exactly the intensity of the production of weapons that is needed for the war, therefore, in a certain sense of the word. this i am now my thought behind the ring. and it seems that they will frighten us with what it means and show in every possible way that now more is being prepared and directly, tomorrow, either it will attack belarus, or it will lead troops

to western ukraine, either one or the other. but there is one thing, but they raise the stakes and can finish the game, thereby, because this is the very chekhov gun that should fire in the last act it will seem to them that they are playing a performance by raising the stakes, and as a result they can break fighting. and it seems that this is where their west is pushing, according to the scenario of saddam, hussein, whose americans once said, yes, go grab that hmm kuvei, right? well, again, we hear from the lips of many european politicians that if ukraine loses, then poland will certainly be forced to join . poland from the point of view. at least the fact that and today the ukrainian army and the army which is led by

the zelensky regime by a percentage, there 80-90 depends on the supplies of the west, and the main logistics haop of these supplies is is located on the territory of poland and even repair bases for military equipment are located in poland then from the point of view. now, if i'm wrong, you, dear military , will correct you, but i still think i'm right, in fact, more are already participating in these hostilities . just like uh, impossible, there uh to deny. and what about some other countries that we say? a-a, in one form or another, the actions of the russian federation in the supply of certain types of weapons, they can also be considered participants in the conflict, because they know exactly where these armaments from the pulse. well , of course, in fact, except for hungary, the european union the war is on the side of kiev today, the mood is e in ukraine , at least those that we hear are those that the censors miss. and what ukrainians allow themselves to express is not fear, but boils down to the fact that ukrainians are ready to accept help from anyone, but also because the losses

are colossal. and if more entered the war. unfortunately, we must admit that many of our compatriots. and they would, of course. we are glad to such an expansion of the conflict simply because, rather, to make compromises. most of them are not yet ready, unfortunately, at least again what we hear in the public space, and they don’t want a player either, and the losses are already too great, so the entry of the poles into the war is many. well, i would like to add a combination of historical claims of tightness of the european framework for the ambitions of a part of the elite, they are pushing modern poland onto the path of militarization and a sharp confrontation with the eastern neighbors of power, poland has done and is doing everything to draw the poles into the war with russia and belarus, despite to deep economic crisis in poland, the republican government began to buy weapons and military equipment for gigantic sums and take loans, thereby driving the country into

long-term debt, warsaw is preparing for war. in the east, this is evidence. many things. more detailed in our story is the activity of nato and with it the growing military threat. more and more moving east. we already have military equipment at our borders and thousands of alliance soldiers play a key role in this. poland, the ruling coalition wants independence and with it the power of everything this. in order to return speech to the commonwealth and become the new center of europe without looking back at the old world, these are precisely the ambitious plans. warsaw has recently become at the head of the country's domestic and foreign policy. poland is part of the largest and most important military alliance in the world's history of the north atlantic treaty organization. we consider this an essential guarantee of our security, poland's own defense is very important, therefore, in 2023. we want to increase our armed forces by at least 20,000 new soldiers and i'm not talking about territorial defense, while the regular

army. today, the polish armed forces are about 150,000 people, 30,000 of which are part of the new territorial defense forces. in addition, 4,000 nato military personnel are permanently stationed in the country , another 5,000 are sent under the pretext of a threat from russia and this is only a small part. in addition, some countries of the alliance are even ready to help more aspirations to seize. to europe, where the polish partners need support, they will receive it, they are our partners and reliable allies in nato so we can say with confidence that we are ready. however, warsaw's appetites continue to grow, according to experts. if earlier poland did not seek to end the ukrainian conflict in the hope of getting a notorious piece of a foreign country, now it has increased its military potential. she will try to play the same card in belarus about this. during negotiations with vladimir putin , alexander lukashenko told her, i specially brought you

a card about the transfer of the armed forces of the polish state. what did you say get ready let's say one of the leads. we stood at 500 km, transferred the map to 40 km, i’ll show you, we can see it all, and a little more than 100 km from grodno , the second brigade is being transferred, well, a division, but while the brigades approached, they opened it. they repair leopards. uh, the poles are on their territory and you live, the airfield where the americans are transferring equipment is activated, however, despite all attempts, any encroachments on our country will be suppressed , words of support and security guarantees for minsk were voiced by vladimir putin with regard to belarus, then this is part of the union state

and unleashing aggression against belarus will mean aggression against the russian federation, so we will respond with all the means at our disposal. yuri at the summit in vilnius, ukraine was quite openly frankly told that the country can still be forgotten about nato membership in the foreseeable future. please tell me, but such rather aggressive actions on the part of poland are coordinated with the same united states of america which play a key role in this alliance to the americans it’s beneficial to have this hyena of europe two years ago, uh, hope on ukrainian television and despite everyone, so to speak, the general opinion that ukraine is not ready for war, because we will never fight with russia, we ukrainian leadership must agree.

well, and so on and the like, i declare today and then. that a military clash between russia and poland will be when it is a matter of time, apparently, when poland invaded the territory of ukraine in its western regions, and possibly on the territory of belarus then the russian troops, together with the belarusian troops, will, uh, be in a combat clash with the polish army that poland i want to disappoint many supporters of the opinion that it is no longer ready for war, it is being transformed and so on. ukraine was also not ready for war, but sorry today. poland has full sovereignty over oil. she is under the complete influence of washington and brussels, so they say there,

how they give the go-ahead. in those, let's say, e decision-making centers, poland will be like that to act in relation to ukraine and in relation to belarus do you agree with yuri's opinion perhaps there are debatable points. i would just like to add. i agree that a certainly polyakov will be forced to fight. this is already becoming obvious. well, who is the question who is the subject who will force? these are the very unknown fathers of the transnational system of governance, which is run by the biden, and the ursulas of the fondyrlyans. uh, that poland is subordinate to brussels. what is brussels then you have to ask? this, as a matter of fact, is simple, and the occupation administration from the side. here, uh, the same forces that i mentioned. well, but when this happens, we need to discuss the timing here , the whole question is what exactly. where are the forces a in

the face of the old biden, but will fight in the twenty-fourth year for the presidency of the united states, that is, the front of the exchange of these same forces. this is a very important question. and you all know what is opposed to him, this is not our topic today and not the format to discuss it, and most likely these forces in order to raise the stakes and show the complexity of the situation, but on the world stage and the involvement of the united states itself. and in this situation, poland will be pushed just right. um, around twenty-four. that is, at the end of this year, at the beginning of the twenty- fourth, poland buys weapons. mostly in south korea because it is one of the few countries, and let's say allies, but the north atlantic alliance that

has. to ride us with energy generation and capacities for the production of intensive production of weapons and really a huge amount, if i'm not mistaken, 12, in my opinion billion, but for poland a huge 100%, and the money in the nightstand, that is, uh, respectively, the money is printed in the united states and understandable. by the way, poland is actually , uh, in relation to poland, the old powers of europe, as well as neighbors such as slovakia , czech republic, hungary, and so on. they are already looking at poland like wolves, because they do not understand that poland is going to start a huge chaos in the region and, well, in this interpretation such a phrase. i would like to say amazing . you see, there is some kind of political and historical matrix, they are all time they board that train that flies

the abyss, here they are with pride they believe in this train. and that he is flying into a bright future is amazingly perfect. that's how they are denied, and a sense of emotional self-preservation at such critical moments. there are such peoples, partly the people to which i belong ethnically belong to him. and oleg e, certainly indigenous alexandrovna said the elections in the united states of america in 2024, let's not forget about the elections that a are coming in the same poland today militant course is largely a reflection of the mood, the ruling nationalist nationalist correct. the very same party itself. pis their opponents. from the same team. donald. tuska also does not differ in constructive attitudes towards the republic of belarus towards the russian federation. e. well , at least they are not militarists and do not dream of a speech, the commonwealth from the sea home the sea. here are the chances there to see

a more moderate government in warsaw at the end of the elections. i think our viewers understand that, uh, poland is a historical society and uh, let's say a common anti-russian vector. and this is what unites them. and this , by the way, is something that was completely uncharacteristic of ukraine in general, except for the westernmost part, which, unfortunately, is a big challenge now, by the way, the most interesting thing. e. here. i think we will return to this in the discussions about poland and the russian federation in the republic of belarus . unfortunately, very often. e. here there is such a confusion of the concept when instead of talking. and so, as today you in the studio are absolutely right about the ambitious and adventurous and chief dependent on the washington regional committee. elite. poland begins to this simply anti-polish side. here i am, as it were, poles such and such. here

i am honored. in general, we, dear friend and colleague yuri dudkin, are engaged in the formation of a movement, another ukraine is , in fact, another poland and those poles who, in general, for various reasons, not sometimes not from great special love pragmatically do not share. the current course, mr. duda, well, let's say, uh, the third most popular political force in poland formal today. the ranationalist party is a confederation as well, which is in fact due to the fact that it is a true ethnic nationalist. the polish do not want to turn poland into a branch of the sandwich staff and perceive very negatively the appearance in poland of millions of ukrainian migrants, who, including western ukraine, who actually carry with them the ideology of bendery, they are supporters. uh, poland for the poles, and in this sense they are objective allies for both minsk and moscow, since, and the slogan more for the poles, uh, implies that warsaw should not flirt, eh? with those

forces in kiev that bandera generates and who in poland is considered a murderer and terrorists. that is, in this sense, when we begin to say all poles are bad, eh, but this is , to put it mildly, wrong, especially in the republic of belarus where i remind you. e. well, probably, every tenth can have belarusians if they have polish roots, and about 200,000 ethnic poles are loyal citizens of the republic of belarus and in this sense have always supported, and the president this is alexander lukashenko on the fact that belarus is a multinational state, where everyone is comfortable. by the way, i'm already a politician. excuse me, the military, if i were asked in the context of the upcoming elections, the party, white russia, i would even demonstrate that belarus is not an internt, far from modern poland, but a country where all nationalities in the party leadership are respected, belarus i would take one of the technical poles and make it so that in the new parliament of belarus and ethnic poles dealt with the issue, for example, of national minorities or some other such, to show that in fact no one in minsk is

anti-polish. there is a mood, uh, connected with the rejection of the course of the polish establishment, which is in power, but not an anti-polish mood at all, because the anti-polish mood in belarus . uh , after the russians yes, and more than that one, and the poles in belarus are well, ok, not the second but this is far from the twenty-fifth people, too, therefore i would warn some of my belarusian colleagues, especially political scientists, who confuse the courses of official warsaw with completely polish more polish is not equally bad oleg please. you know, i always make the same remarks, because only for one rukasovsky and the victims of the people's army. we do not have the right and our tongue does not turn. say it, let the poles know this, and, moreover, this is our fellow citizens, there are not a few of them, and in russia in belarus it goes without saying, but from my

point of view, we are talking only about the political elite establishment. just mention it every time. eh, you know, this first one is quite difficult. and the second is about the elections. most importantly, i would like to say that biden won by rigging. there will be the same fraud in poland and they will win, maybe the confederates would have lied more votes. i completely agree with you, but those who will not give them these votes and will appoint the one who needs it has already happened in several countries, this scenario has been worked out perfectly, including in eastern europe, for example, in slovakia, this is for me pretty good. it is known how mrs. chaputova became the president of the country, which no one knew at all. and suddenly it turned out that people voted for her, conducted research , asked who nobody voted, you understand , they will do nothing, they will draw. yes, andrey petrovich

, let's talk about the military component, according to the minister, of defense. poland, mariusz bleizchik, in august , a sapper battalion will be created in the suwalki corridor between the kaliningrad region and belarus. it will be another military unit built from scratch. at this junior. he assured that it would not be the last one, and let's pay attention to our table with plans to increase the polish armed forces. and i would like you to comment if the prerequisites for considering yes, in the foreseeable future, poland and within nato, on an equal footing with france and turkey , poland is not the country that is capable of defeating russia today, this must be clearly understood , she can only create for her the complexity of the geostrategic plan, which she successfully does. you see what the summit ended the summit decided the issue of not

joining the war more than the war on the creation of a coalition. and here it is clearly necessary to understand, not one. poland will act. and when ukraine loses, romania will also enter there. please, i believe that there will be an outbreak simultaneously in the transcaucasus and in central asia, that is, we will be perforated throughout central asia. the caucasus is the next place where all this will take place, so isolate poland from general events. it will be categorically wrong, well 150.000 for the russian federation, vladimir vladimirovich correctly said that as soon as you enter, where you enter, you will stay there. these are the most true words of existence in general more as such, which entered the war with russia all of a sudden. you understand this, this is maybe a watch. and maybe even minutes of the existence of this state, realizing what is the potential? yes? that is, there is no need to pull on whether the war is a special operation

taking place today in ukraine with the war that will need to be shown to russia in order to stop the entire bloc nato understand wet place. this is what should remain and what the head of state of the russian federation should show as the supreme commander-in-chief today we are right to say that poland is arming itself. she has a clear plan. moreover, this weaponry is on a global scale. you understand that the most important law, the law on the protection of the state, is being adopted. what does he say that, firstly, to significantly increase the budget to increase the armed forces to 300.250 - this is a professional army 50 - this is territorial defense, the purchase of weapons native alexander said correctly. today, nato does not even have the opportunity to fully arm poland alone, and therefore they are already starting to abandon the abrams for the apards and everything is in

favor of the newest second tanks that come from south from south korea perfectly, realizing that they do not have time for the thirtieth year to rearm even such a single country, where to get the money. let's look at poland from 2004 to 2004, the twenty-first year annually received from the budget 11 billion dollars, which is crazy money. and what is happening now, when it is being carried out? this one large-scale relocation from the budget is beginning to allocate about $ 33 billion annually, which is actually equal to the military budget. uh, this republic itself. and this money they where they come from is equal to the contributions that are paid there, germany and britain there are also taken. well , damn it, actually, germany has already become such a donor, but the lord once again said that we will help poland too. yes, and from this

donor is required. i believe that today poland cannot be called the hyena of europe, so as not to offend a real predator, which this parasitism on the body of europe and parasitism on the body of the same germany earns here, that 's what this poland is today, if we compare it with the capabilities of the same france look at the world today. well, there are literally four states that are completely self-sufficient militarily. this is the united states, russia, china and france are pulling up somewhere else. yes, britain has its tasks somewhere at the end of the tunnel, india is those states. well, early. vaughn is not yet self-sufficient in many matters. i'm talking about that who is working from space rocket technology. aircraft carriers, yes, and ending with boots and footcloths for a soldier. yes , it’s literally just these states andrey petrovich let’s also discuss the retaliatory measures that

the republic of belarus is taking and of course. i would like to hear the comments of president alexander lukashenko, which is associated with the placement of the wagner guy on the territory of the republic of belarus, please, to the west. let us, i tell you why go west there? well, i'm quiet. we are we control what is happening, well, let's go on a tour of warsaw and the housing department, but for them it is not acceptable when they fought under e., artyomovsk. uh, they know where the military equipment came from, and they have this one inside , it's a disaster, of ​​course, i keep them in the center. as you say from belarus, i would not like to relocate them there, because their mood is bad and it is necessary. yes, they should know what is happening around e union

state. after these words of the belarusian leader, many polish politicians were definitely nervous. i would also like to draw attention to the map of american bases in poland, native alexandrovna, many experts, based on the fact that the americans use poland as a battering ram, wanting to force the poles to drag chestnuts from the fire for them, however, the american military is growing in the presence in poland, and now, isn’t it the desire to form some specific kind of hybrid theater of operations, when the polish troops would fight on approximately the territory of ukraine, the nato you, and guarded yes, defended the territory of poland and, in fact, blocking poland, the americans. they limit for the same russia or belarus possible strikes on the same rear areas

to hit the americans. today, in fact, they don’t want to provoke certain actions either in america e, again, not in russia or in the republic of belarus we all talk about the third world war, but so far it still has a completely different form and we say that we hope that it will not happen in that terrifying format. i think that in general this whole numbering is flying tarta, because it is the format that we we have it today. remember how the bolsheviks used to be. they had a slogan of no peace, no war is obtained here, no peace, no war, or war. this is peace - this is war, in general, according to orwell. almost. let's take these definitions, they all have no semantic field. they emasculated it, and emptiness. but you know, even, looking at this map, i can say that the americans, especially since there is a small contingent of up to 1,000 people. uh, yes they add and so on. well

, sorry it's for the grad squad. actually they say it. this is the same well, what is a barrier squad? you can of course with negative connotations. but actually, this is the military police in ukraine now. it should be more popular as a military police. this is the first, the second, as i understand it , the americans will soon. well, this logic of events is also not our topic, they will leave europe and they will leave from there, in general, all these gestures today in order to poison the europeans and, first of all, the poles. and so that they turn out to be the cause of chaos on our borders , they won’t be enough for more, they really don’t have it resources. i this is absolutely not for complacency, because this grief will be hmm through the roof. as he says over the edge. but they will be forced to leave europe , you know, 900 bases around the world, by and

large, up to 90% of all this is leaving. e in this is a very high level of corruption 86% of the us naval forces. it just doesn't float at all and doesn't work. here they are now sent to south korea, yes , in order to demonstrate to north korea, yes, their aircraft carrier, such a magnificent one. excuse me, please, since they have five there, in my opinion, i can be mistaken aircraft carriers, but only two float. here is but deal even not only in this. just as they will, they cannot fight and weapons, they don’t have. and i say once again there is no drug generation for the production of weapons, so they will leave. e to australia in this acus. and most importantly, they now really grab it. uh, part of the e market on you in the asia-pacific region here from the chinese to intercept, why kisenger. actually traveled in china to the chinese

agree and they will agree, but this is not our topic, here. therefore, they will leave from here. anton, we are in a safari park, but you know, i imagined that a safari park was like this. we drive around in such open cars around the lions. do you have to say in belarus svetlana, do you know our belarusian park? i'm a little nervous. neither do i. neither do you. you can't be nervous. you will be driving. when you saw the largest concentration of animals here, when there are a lot of herds right here yes, when the deer forms so think, lick tell me weather conditions, when the season is here, in winter it does not work all the time. yes, even in winter when

it snows. cheers, watch the good morning show, rannitsa, belarus with svetlana borovskaya on belarus 24 tv channel, we will introduce you to the belarusians who deliberately exchanged the city for the village. and when it all started , remember, well, 10 years ago we dreamed of five hectares, we were told either 31 or nothing. and now there are 61 dictations. they will tell about life in the belarusian outback with fear, which was not there when i left the place, which works both in winter and summer in order to people had a job in the winter and summer of good people, you need to attract

the leaders to you. he will master a new occupation, unusual for a garage, and we must remove the old irrigation system in order to wash it in a solution on purpose . did it myself. watch the show i am from the village on our tv channel. i remind you that on the air the program sassu is authorized to declare, let's move on to the second block of our ghost program new polish-lithuanian commonwealth in march 2023, the polish ambassador to france, yana marie cross shefsky, made an unexpected statement. he said that if ukraine cannot contain the enemy, then more will also enter the war and a similar statement. in early june 2023 , a certain haley made an american politician of the republican party. she said that if ukraine loses, then there will be more next.

but the president of belarus alexander lukashenko, in negotiations with putin, said that the transfer of ukrainian lands to poland, which today many spoke in pro-government offices in ukraine and in poland, it is not acceptable if western ukraine asks for help, we will provide according to him. now there is a lot of talk about ukraine joining nato in parts, so that in this way. to tear off western ukraine we will hear a direct speech separation of western ukraine, the expansion of ukraine and the transfer of lands to poland is unacceptable, and if necessary, the western population of ukraine we , of course, will support them. i ask that you discuss and consider this matter. naturally. i would like in this regard you supported us, if there is such support and western ukraine asks for this help. of course, we will provide the western population in

ukraine with ukraine yes, if this is the case, we will support them in every possible way, as for the polish leaders, it is likely that they expect to form a kind of calicia with a nato umbrella. and directly intervene in the conflict in ukraine in order to then tear off a fatter piece for themselves and regain, as they consider their historical territories of today's western ukraine, what historical territories vladimir is talking about vladimirovich putin let's clearly demonstrate to our respected viewers a map of 1938, polish eastern ambitions looked exactly like this and western ukraine was certainly part of them oleg please tell me how, in general, in your opinion, today the ukrainian leader and his team regard such statements, because boundless love between poland and ukraine

said the polish leader and volodymyr zelensky is there a risk of such a scenario for ukraine joining nato in parts always say let's define the concepts. yes let's define terms. uh, this is very important, because of course the topic we are discussing today. it evokes a lively emotional response in the souls of both ukrainians and russians and belarusians, and is extremely important. and so it's very easy here. mix everything in the ukrainian authorities. naturally, there is no talk. the transfer of the territories of ukraine to poland, and we are talking about in one form or another, since nato really expected zelensky to be denied membership over the european union, this is generally some kind of hypothetical story, but oh, the formation of some kind of conditional union, uh, to, which will allow both political and economic and what is most important in military terms to unite the efforts of warsaw and kiev and in this sense, uh, for me, uh, remain big debatable issues. i would be very

grateful. so, dear belarusian colleague, belarusian colleague, if he told how it is in more detail or not in minsk and they very much, for example, understand how it is today, but if we are talking, for example, about the introduction of existing official documents on the territory of western ukraine many years of ukrainian-polish lithuanian and brigades like let's say official minsk or moscow can prevent this, because i remind you that on the territory of, say, the republic of belarus , this is absolutely a sovereign decision. at the invitation of the leadership of the republic of belarus, for example, russian divisions are located. that is, if we are talking about this, this is one story. and, if tomorrow, again, uh, the regime, of course, and so on mr. zelensky, well, let 's remember that in the nineteenth year it was he who won the elections, which were recognized by both the russian federation and the republic, belarus and therefore the legitimacy of zelensky a as president with all the same terrible course that is now taking place, we cannot deny, if tomorrow, uh, president zelensky is completely controlled by the absolutely obedient verkhovna

rada, the truth is that the polish troops on the territory of ukraine are voting, how can someone from the outside can prevent this , so me yes oleg thank you. thanks for your question. yes, andrey, you know, i want to answer with the words, again, of vladimir vladimirovich putin, which he said on february 24, 2022. if any of states, if a friend really wants to invade and intervene in this armed conflict, then for this state it will be a shock that it has not experienced, never in history, almost verbatim. i say this with regard to this brigade that we are talking about, it will simply be a legitimate target for destruction to destroy problems. there are none at all, that is, there is an armed conflict intervening in this armed conflict. uh, half a liter of hands, yes or ukrainian more, lithuania ukraine or lead gender ukr? does it matter what it's called? this brigade, which was created by the international somewhere in the early 2000s, can

be said, and i say again that such formations. they will be regarded as armed formations precisely opposing the armed forces of russia , no one, of course, can prevent them from invading the territory of ukraine. well, in this case , russia clearly determined that it would consider this side. oh, armed conflict, under what auspices this brigade will have to enter , i don’t know how the international police, who will give she is right, in the end, there is a clear setting of who can act in this situation. that is, this should take place under the auspices of the united nations, where it gives, first of all, a carte blanc that such actions are the result of a vote by the security council. i think apriori is known to everyone. today we see how russia is starting to act more actively. that is, what happened at the beginning of this armed conflict and the nomination of kiev to their kharkov and kherson, and then these istanbul agreements, which

suddenly came into agreement. yes here, as was correctly said by one of the russian military analysts konstantin sevkov. yes, a refined policy. everyone understands perfectly well what is there from the armed conflict. yes, there is very little you can learn and it’s just tactical actions, look. no operational tasks are being solved, no operational-strategic groupings are being formed, everything is being formed, as it began against the backdrop of the counter offensive, where the same brigades are actually fighting pain for a five-hat battle for northern mayorsk, any for the same cutting vermievsky ledge, that is, by and large . today, completely different tasks are being solved. ukraine is just a reagent in order to keep the fire in this furnace , where, against the backdrop of the redivision of the world, it is this military confrontation that clearly divided where the west is, where the east is. in all likelihood , it will soon divide where the north is. and where are the global ones. thank you very much oleg do you have something to answer, if possible a short comment

moving on? first, i would like to point out that in my understanding, let's say even not one person suffered in the mind. not wanting a nuclear war, because it will always obviously be the last war for all nations for our children. this is the first and naturally, if it is possible to avoid it in one way or another, then it is the duty of any politician. and i am primarily a politician diplomat. they are the military, this is the conflict they choose. secondly, as far as i understand, and i have reasons to think so, certain, and not in moscow, er, well, first of all, in moscow there are no apocalyptic moods. no, there are really adventurers out there in poland or in another country. fuck it, but they will resort to a direct invasion of the territory of the state. i think there is no need to argue here, everything is clear, yes, but the scale of the answers, but everything that concerns the territory. uh, actually the mai of the country in ukraine unfortunately, yes, which has become a platform for all kinds of political and military experiments, there is in general a wide

field for stamps and let's say. the surprise of the polish units, which in fact are already present in the form of so-called mercenaries, of course, there will be targets and this is logical for uh russian strikes, but on the scale as it is now is going to imagine a blow to warsaw for the fact that, at the invitation of zelensky, the polish belt brigade in lviv, i cannot be convinced that this will not happen yet, but i would like to talk about certain historical events and terrible countries that make you think about what is happening today hundreds, ruined with 1943 to 1944 villages. about a hundred thousand killed by nationalists bandera. the poles volyn massacre is among the most brutal crimes of world war ii. in a special capacity , responsibility for it even today is not recognizes the motherland of the main defendants of ukraine kiev is trying to convince historians around the world

to divide the blame into parts, taking into account the gibe. ukrainians at the hands of polyakov kalenda aleksandrovna but tell me, please, do these certain historical analogies work in building current alliances. do the poles really not have this resentment for these horrific crimes. or you know it, here are two sides of the same coin, that is, here we cooperate. and here we can also, and you can definitely hide the knife, you know, you can eat polish features, because i have a very a close school friend was polish, she spoke very ironically about them. but there is one feature that miraculously disappears and is undoubtedly valuable. the fact is that the reverse side of the polish ambition was the notion of chivalry after all. here is what is not there today, and what is leaving because, for example, this is russophobia, which

is being planted in poland. engaged in all the irons goes and so on. this is generally evidence of the disappearance of this spirit of chivalry, because i knew perfectly well that the always polish polish people are very skeptical about the leadership in the russian empire and in the soviet union but this has never been extended to personal relationships. on the contrary, it was very high and very considerate respect. this is terrible. i would like to say one thing. right here on this map, if lvov and let's make a project for today, but without lvov and this is the southern part, it was part of austria-hungary. and i must tell you that even today austria hungary slovakia and, perhaps, even the czech republic despite all these assurances that in friendship within nato that

they are all about the west, that they are europe, this is europe, and so on and so forth actually. here you asked me a question. this is hypocrisy on the part of the poles but this is also hypocrisy on the part of the neighbors of the poles, because under no circumstances. they are even if we have russia and belarus to turn their heads like an owl 360 °. and we will have different points where we will be strained, including, maybe even the far east. everything can be there. everything can be. here, even though. i just i believe that yes, a little bit, poland will spend their potential, but not on it. play a lot too. who wants to emphasize once again this is austria and e from insider information, which is not bad for me, but it is known that, for example, the attitude towards e, the poles

follows, of course. the vatican is not. divisions, as you remember, stalin asked how many divisions the pope had, but nevertheless, the influence being thrown off is not worth the bill, really. this is a rather specific order, if i may, so to speak, to a territorial state, which has a certain influence and weight in the world. so the mood is anti-polish, they are going wild just now and this is significant. this is very revealing. and i think it is no coincidence that the papal envoy came to his holiness the patriarch, and to cyril , these are the nuances. therefore, this is all very multi-step. and i see a lot of hypocrisy in it. with all that, i tell you with great respect for polish culture, and in everything in its entire spectrum, and for the very brave people, indeed, and you can learn a lot from him. here, suddenly manifests itself at critical moments in history

, manifests the erroneous behavior of the leadership, which you just don’t understand. and why every time on the same rake, but what is interesting is that they do not repeat the situation, they go down a level lower and here it is necessary, and it should be noted that they also gained experience. and we also know that suvorov said that in no case should you ever despise the enemy. here are our nicknames. let's not go along with them or mirror them about russophobia. yes, that's according to russophobia, but here we must understand that they also analyze their historical experience. this is not only what we do. it is not only we remind them, but they take into account their past mistakes. and maybe they will behave significantly because they are more cunning than it seems to us today, our program is nearing its end, and i would like you and me

to watch a scene from the polish historical film with fire and sword, shot by a famous director. i am hoffmann, which is based on the novel of the same name by the polish writer henry kosynkevich. the novel tells about dramatic events of the seventeenth century that took place in ukraine during the years of the nationwide uprising. under the leadership of bogdan khmelnytsky , which led to the reunification of ukraine and russia, attention was on the screen. where should i return, your grace? ukraine will hear us.

damn you yes, as it were, who did not try to rewrite history to smooth it out, but historical memory was and will be yuri please the final word of today's program. you very correctly chose this fragment from this film, because the polish society is really on present day. no matter how it seems to us, no matter how the media highlights it , polish society is not homogeneous. i emphasize. there are different moods there, of course, there is a massive

ideological propaganda that is anti-russian, first of all, that apart from russia as an enemy, poland has no one else, and ukraine is a friend and eternal brother. uh, including in polish society, there are citizens who think so, but still i communicate a lot with poles today polish uh, citizens remember beautiful is that volyn massacre, about which you mentioned that monument to the fall, which the current polish leadership is carrying out. with regard to the monuments that were erected by the soldiers of the soviet army who gave 600,000 lives for the liberation of poland and, of course, the general hatred of bandera. i emphasize in polish society. it exists on this too. in our ideological work

, a very big stake must be placed. today we had an extremely serious and in many ways disturbing discussion, because you are a little defusing atmosphere, ending with a musical joke by a famous american director. woody allen once upon a wit. i can't listen to wakner's work for too long, at some point there is an irresistible desire to conquer poland. thank you, it was a program. sasha is authorized to declare. in relations with poland, minsk began to follow the principle. if you want

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