in a much more important and significant sense, they allow it all to be taken out and, in the material sense of the word, to steal. they pay for these loans that they were given money loans pay for them exactly with the goods under which they are given these loans. they are given loans for the product called you are making yourself anti-russian. you are outliving yourself everything, uh, culturally, but linguistically, and from the point of view of the faith , you are outliving, that is, roughly speaking, what they were contracted for by this today's project , by the fact that it refuses everything russian or east slavic, that it has it and it is needed, therefore this is retribution, that is, for the west this is a very successful project for the west, this, unfortunately, is enough for today. a successful project, and

in fact, and, uh, tearing it away from you, you understand that, well, uh, not yet today. but if, roughly speaking, as it is planned by the west for 10-15 years , people grow up within the framework of this incomprehensible one. uh, it is not clear what sect that they made instead of orthodoxy still arises. and it's uh, well, let's say it's this one a gap that will already be difficult to close with some. that is what they are paid for. they pay exactly this they are paid for tearing themselves out of our common space. artyom well, once we have already touched on the topic of children a little. yes, they are paid. i'm not talking about ukrainians. i'm talking about the current ukrainian project, which signed all this. i agree we touched on the topic of children a little. yes? here it is necessary to touch it a little deeper, because it is terrible, much

more terrible, maybe even than financial assets and, sorry, even spiritual values, because children are not just our future. yes, this is pompous, but we are always on this basis, we reflect very strongly. here, against the backdrop of the war, what is happening in a particular case , a freak was detained in ukraine who sold children for organs. but after all, we are also trying to shake this topic, but shake it. how exactly now in the international criminal court want to force to consider the topic, what about the children who come here from the new russian territories? yes, from the donbass of zaporozhye from the kherson region , they rest here on vacation. here two or three weeks from attacks and then come back to us that we belarusians are stealing these children. and now, we really

do kidnapping. yes, they are trying to blame us. okay tseptsov when they write about it. why is this nonsense in the heads of europeans, in general, in principle, possible. i am familiar with this topic because, by the way, i met a thalai in the donbass, and your paralympic athletes, whom i am so mine, are one of those to whom, uh, his foundation deals with his children’s recreation here. yes, he takes care of the kids. we know each other and communicate with him. and here in particular about this problem. i'm at my place. uh, so i understand perfectly well what is at stake here on a practical level, when you speak. eh, here's some some too. we have such not exactly a mistake, but maybe even our mistake. we have all done it at one time or another. you say that here, well, i understand when tsipzu. well, when europeans do you want to say that today's europe and today's europeans are something that in

the intellectual, spiritual, cultural sense, and in the humanistic sense, stands out? you you also believe in ordinary americans in one-story america whom you recognized. yes? i have practically nothing to do with them, it doesn’t depend on them or there is nothing left of them, because they are there and the same thing. i hope that there are thinking people in europe as well. there is one-storey europe, and there are thinking people. there are understanding people. there are people who understand what is happening there, of course there are, and they, because when i was talking about what they send me, for example, from italy, my friends, and there, well, they left ukraine back in the days of the ussr and so further. there with mariupol and so on, but they are sent all this and the italians, too, who are horrified by all this. yes, and very many of them in europe, of course, they begin to see clearly.

by the way, recently, literally in the last week, there has been a lot of such news that all of a sudden there is the administration of something there, something out there, and noted, what does it mean in ukraine many crimes are being committed against volunteers, humanitarian workers are arrested there which at last he received his sight. yes, at last he received his sight, there and that a crime is being committed against children, there and so on and so forth, that is. uh, the dialectical law is the transition of quantity into quality at the level of these thinking people. he, of course, is going on listen, well , the american senators about the fact that azov is a nazi organization in the seventeenth year. they understood everything perfectly, they understood everything, they described that they should not be given weapons. then it turned out that they could be given this, they already started taking them to their excursion. then, when it will be necessary to remember again that they considered the nazis. this do you understand. this is control, as it were, external control. it seems to be arranged in such a way that you need to see, and you need not to see, therefore the europeans, uh, who are still there. of course they see everything. of course, they understand everything in the same way as those very europeans in whom you believe and many

americans, in whom we also believe. hmm, they understand someone, and someone intuitively feels that, by and large, in our confrontation with so called today's europe, we are in many ways the bearers of european values, too, at least to talk about export. eh, these e spiritual relics, but you understand very well that there are already churches in europe. in which all this could be there in the churches already that in many bars there is a gym. i am not saying this over the internet. when i had the opportunity to ride, i saw it all. there's a bar , there's a restaurant, there's a gym, there's a disco, there's back and forth , and there are many europeans who, well, let's say, are so conservative. they are just in well in russia in the broadest sense of the word. they just see, here are european values, also their christian and family. and this is this and this

a very important substitution that when we talk about a conflict, e.g. russia or the russian world with europe, this is all presented as a conflict between european values ​​and anti-european values. this is the best substitute for this conflict, and it lies in the fact that there are already anti -european and anti -humanistic anti-christian values, which are, well, even now i don’t want to pronounce these words, than well , demonism, in short, here, and we are trying to resist this with our own names. we are trying to resist this. not being some are flawless. not being irreproachable with all your mistakes with all your own, uh , sins, and so on and so forth, but basic at this level. that's where the contradiction lies.

we follow the sports life of our country returned to the sector after a year-long break in the history of belarusian volleyball , the head coach of the main club of the country was appointed the women of marketa fan-rousheva, the winner of the wumbledon in women's singles in the final , the forty-second racket of the world outplayed the sixth world ranking number. he is with a jaber, we will find out how a new height of 24 has been reached for 17 years. i gave it to this sport, and i don't regret it a bit. you need to be emotional and restrain yourself at the same time, you need to win to win. at the same time, you must respect your opponent constantly, as we call him alive, when there is no auto without stopping. you have to accept yourself no one helps you and show you how to stay in shape. we gently roll our shoulders back. we make a full circle, we feel

how we are going. these exercises will help you to be cheerful and fill you with energy for the whole day. watch sports projects on belarus 24 tv channel. they are passionate about what they love and try to popularize it among the younger generation. here usually there is an egg of a kulik bird called a lapwing - this is a typical color of an egg, but we managed to find it. the nest, which had a unique white background , can only be envied by their broad outlook and inquisitive mind. i ’m walking along a defective road, the second road from the town of olshany was a kind of tread, at sharaze, there are no thirties and there will already be a duck

100 years. i've been here since the cob horses rode different waters. well, already almost any god can drive cars, people who live in the woods and do everything for the development of their little motherland. well, i think i don’t want to talk about it a little bit, so i myself want some of my own son for mercy. eh, such such e cuteness. i ain't no bam to the crazy capital, see draft policy. on channel belarus 24 as an authoritative presenter and a russian , believe me there is no irony here, i cannot

but ask about something important for us. here at the meeting with the security forces and journalists of the recent president, our president directly said that we have a single fatherland from brest to vladivostok, i was present at this meeting. he emphasized this thesis several times, while he emphasized that we are a sovereign country and independent, but in the united fatherland. here's to your point of view. and what is more important for russia, a strong and independent republic of a dash, a reliable ally , or a part of the russian world a little bit in the wrong sense, in which one would like, and is everyone in russia able to correctly assess this? a i will answer immediately with first, here is the second part

of the question. ah, in russia, of course, not all. we are able to correctly assess this, because this is a very complex issue. this is a question of how many have a head, and how their e, historical and political reflection is arranged, both since the time of the soviet union and after the collapse of the soviet union in relation to belarus, and so on. in this sense, i don't. uh, as they would say, by the way, irony is a good story, even if it was irony by an authoritative russian. and that means there is a leader. i also went through these and different stages of perception, and then belarus and ukraine because, of course, we all grew up in the soviet union and are accustomed to perceive, because we alone are accustomed to perceive it. like what it was, what it was, as we grew as well inseparable parts and over time. yes, this is how it was perceived that this is for some such, well, by coincidence of a number of

historical ones. in general, in some tragic circumstances. we began to live separately. well , as if there was such a long enough period, but this is all, as if not for real. well, you know there from a series of belarus well , how is it separately, belarus well, that is, you know, it seems that many had it, but someone left such that it’s all like this. well, here's a strange game that in the ninety-first year everything was broken. why, in the ninety- first year, everything was pretend, that it was a mistake. and this was in many ways a tragic mistake, it’s another matter that, well, it’s impossible to turn the stuffing back and there is no subjunctive mood, and so on and so forth, and now we kind of have to agree and disagree that it was we must see. live and build the most effective for us for all. well, how would the path be in the future, yes, and in fact, only this will make us stronger, when we are already

exactly the one about which your question is, when will we start thinking about it, and not reflecting? well, how was it right there, or like before me , putin said everything very correctly about this, that the one who does not regret about this, that one, has no heart, and the one who wants to glue it together, as if there is no way to glue the head together, as it was already impossible, therefore it is necessary to build something new now to the first part of this question, which is more important for us, firstly for me. this is not a thesis or an antithesis. this is not a contradiction, a separate independent sovereign belarus and part of our common common house or political science projects and so on. i'll tell you more. i spoke about this at one time, and even on the air even then many of my friends did not understand me, but i remained with this point of view. i just think that it is possible, for all of us together, as for our cultural unity historical mental vs.

first of all, we are being waged a mental war. this is what they are doing now with ukraine, this is, first of all, a mental war, because they were reflashed like this. belarus as we call it or belarus as it is officially called here, and which lives as a separate country while realizing itself as part of our unity. i think that for us this is how to say it in a cultural historical, whatever geopolitical sense. this is a very important resource. i'll explain why because when in the ninety-first year our common project ended there , the soviet socialist one, and so on and so forth, but there were several different options for getting out of this way out of this and moving into something else, and russia chose or was forced

to take one path, belarus went the other way. and the results that we have achieved to date , they give me reason to believe that much of what was done in belarus was a softer and more sparing way of the transition period and getting out of what, that is, russia rushed or was abandoned. now we are not discussing this with our heads in this wild capitalism in the era of the initial accumulation of capital in the russian state. well, this is all that we went through, a very sore subject , belarus. not exactly, at some point, moved away from this and went a different way, it has its advantages. he has his downsides. he has his own difficulties. it has its advantages and an alternative that you

see before your eyes. it is always very important, when we have. here is russia with its pluses and minuses. here we have belarus with its pros and cons. and here we would also have ukraine with its pluses and minuses, based on the fact that we are all, as it were, one, but still some. well, let's just say the mentality, it's all the same in something. eh, it's not because we are russian belarusians and ukrainians there. listen, you are coming to the penza region. there are also some mental differences. yes, here and now belarus is coming, so you look at the way and the horns. here they have it, uh, here they have it, it ’s cool interesting, yes, but a concrete example for you. i'm from the airport yesterday. rode the driver tells me at night. and we're driving at night. and i say, what are we talking about at every traffic light, and he says, and this is our red wave at night, not the green wave of traffic lights, but

the red wave traffic light, i say, and why and not to drive? you see, this is exactly what i thought. this is an interesting approach. we have, on the contrary, as it were, but it's like time, let 's drive there, but here it's not, so that they don't drive. so good, let it be here, but it's very important that we be united at the same time, that uh, we are communicating. vessels. and when you have it here, you can also look about it there, it 's different there, with privatization there, it's different with that there. well, these are all the differences it will be for guidance. this will be an indicator for each individual of our countries. oh, look, they have it, and ours also see it. what is there so you understand, well, from a completely banal sphere. well, this is probably known to everyone here, but nevertheless. for me, this is a very important example. and with what expression are the words belarusian products pronounced in russia,

you see, delicious belarusian belarusian products are at the practical level the result of the fact that at one time belarus chose a little bit another way in something a little bit. in a way, they are a little. yes, and they are now what they are, right? and i remember that year in some fifteenth or sixteenth. and just when my wife and i, well, we were here in belarus , we stopped, so there, in the populated area , well, i'm called. well, it’s written finds e yes, so there is such a store there, i won’t say its name on the air, otherwise to think what exactly the advertisement came here, it means that there we are, well, we just had to eat, we bought bread and sausages. and uh got cut in the car. they just started to eat and the wife says, listen to something says something, not that. i say it is, of course not. all the same , you understand the present, it is not something that

smells like sausage there. well, sausage, she is she is sausage. yes, you see, this is a very small banal example. you can deploy a lot of them further, so i consider the attention that if we are this diversity approaches, and some options there, if we can save it and use it as a resource in order to mutually learn lessons from this, this will definitely strengthen us. that's all, so for me a very important point. you told everything so beautifully , you know, i want to, however, with the rights of a person who runs this program. yes, you have such a right in moscow, i have it here for understanding. everything is very simple, if we are independent. e sovereign country we have enough mind. and i'm sure that with our president it will be we always have enough. i think they are becoming anti-russian.