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, there is no irony here, i cannot but ask about something important for us. here, at a recent meeting with security officials, journalists , our president directly said that we have a single fatherland from brest to vladivostok, i was present at this meeting. he emphasized this thesis several times, while he emphasized that we are a sovereign country and independent, but in the united fatherland. here's to your point of view. and what is more important for russia, a strong and independent republic of the dash is a reliable ally or is a part of the russian world a little bit different from the sense in which one would like it to be, and is everyone in russia capable of assessing this correctly? and

i will answer immediately with first, here is the second part of the question. ah, in russia, of course, not all. we are able to correctly assess this, because this is a very complex issue. this is a question of how many have a head, and how their e, historical and political reflection is arranged both since the time of the soviet union and after the collapse of the soviet union in relation to belarus and so on. in this sense, i don't. eh, how are you they said, by the way, irony is a good story, even if it was irony , an authoritative russian. and that means there is a leader. i also went through these and different stages of perception, and then belarus and ukraine, because, of course, we all grew up in the soviet union and got used to perceive, because we alone are used to perceive it. like what it was, what it was, as we grew as well inseparable parts and

over time. yes, this is how it was perceived that it was for some such, well, by coincidence of a whole series historical. in general, in some tragic circumstances. we began to live separately, but as if there was such a long enough period, but this is all, as if not for real. well, you know, there is from the series of belarus well, how is it separately, belarus well, that is, you know , it seems that many had it, but someone left such that it’s all like this. well, here's a strange game that in the ninety-first year everything was broken. yes, of course, that in the ninety-first year it was all for fun, that it was a mistake. and that was largely a mistake. tragic is another matter that, well, as if minced meat is impossible to turn back and there is no subjunctive mood and so on and so forth and we now kind of have to agree or disagree that it was we should see. write to line up the most effective for us for all. well, how would the path be in the future, yes, and in fact, only

this will make us stronger, when we are already exactly the one about which your question is, when will we start thinking about it, and not reflecting? well , here it is, but how was it more correct, or before putin told me everything about this very correctly that he who does not regret about this, that, has no heart. and the one who wants to stick it together, as if he had no head to glue, as it was already impossible, therefore, we need to build something new now to the first part of this question, which is more important for us, firstly for me. this is not a thesis or an antithesis. this is not a contradiction, a separate independent, sovereign belarus and part of our common common house or a political science project and so on. i'll tell you more. i talked about it in my time. eh, even on the air even then many of my friends did not understand me, but i remained with this point of view. i just think that it is possible, for all of us together,

as for our here this unity of cultural historical mental against. first of all, we are being waged a mental war. this is what they are doing now with ukraine, this is, first of all, a mental war, because they were reflashed like this. belarus as we call it or belarus as it is officially called here, and which lives like a separate country while recognizing itself as part of our unity. i think that for us this is how to say it in a cultural historical, whatever geopolitical sense. this is a very important resource. i will explain why, because when in the ninety-first year our common project ended there , the soviet socialist and so on and so forth, there were several different options for getting out of this way out of this transition into

something else and russia chose or was forced to follow one path, belarus went the other way. and the results we have achieved today they give me reason to believe that much of what was done in belarus was a softer and more sparing way of the transition period and getting out of the fact that, that is, russia rushed or was abandoned. now we are not discussing this with our heads in this wild capitalism in the era of the initial accumulation of capital in the russian state. and this is all that we went through. a very sore subject. a very sore subject, belarus. not exactly, at some point, it moved away from this and went a different way, it has its advantages. he has

its cons. he has his own difficulties. it has its advantages and an alternative that you see before your eyes. it is always very important, when we have. here is russia with its pluses and minuses. here we have belarus with its pluses and minuses. and here we would also have ukraine with its pluses and minuses, based on the fact that we are all, as it were, one, but still some. well, let's just say the mentality, it's all the same in something. uh, it's not because we are russian belarusians and ukrainians there, listen, you come to penza areas. there are also some mental differences. yes, here and now belarus is coming, so you look at the path. yeah , this is what they have, uh, this is what they have, it’s cool interesting, yes, but a concrete example for you. i'm from the airport yesterday. i was driving at night , the driver tells me. and we're driving at night. and i say, what are we talking about at every traffic light

, and he says, and this is our red wave at night, not the green wave of traffic lights, but the red wave traffic light, i say, and why, so that they don’t drive you understand? that's what i immediately thought. same interesting approach. with us, on the contrary, it’s like it’s night, like time, let’s drive there, but here it’s not, so that they don’t drive. so good, let it be here, but it's very important that we be one with it, that, uh, we are communicating vessels. and when you have it here, you can also look about it there , it's different there, with privatization there, it's different with that there. well, these are all the differences it will be for guidance. this will be an indicator for each individual of our countries. oh look, it's theirs, and ours they also see. what is there so you understand, well, from a completely banal sphere. er, well, that's probably known to everyone here, but

still. for me, this is a very important example. and with what expression are the words belarusian products pronounced in russia, you know, delicious belarusian belarusian products are at the level of the practical result of the fact that at one time, belarus chose a little another way in something a little. in a way, they are a little. yes, and they are now what they are, right? and i remember that in some fifteenth or sixteenth year. and just when my wife and i, well, we were here in belarus, we stopped, so it’s in the populated area. well, and i'm called. well, it says it's included . oh, yes, so there is such a store there, i won't say its name on the air, otherwise i'll think that this advertisement came. here we are, well, we just had to eat, we bought bread and sausages. and uh, they cut it. well, they just started eating in the car and the wife said, listen, something is saying something, not that. i say

it is, of course not. it's real anyway , you understand, it's not what it smells like sausage. well, sausage, she is she is sausage. yes, you know, this is a very small banal example. we can expand a lot of them further, so i think that if we are a variety of approaches, and there are some options, if we can save it and use it as a resource in order to learn mutual lessons, this will certainly strengthen us . that's all, so for me a very important point. you told everything so beautifully , you know, i want to, however, with the rights of a person who runs this program. yes, you have i have the right to eat in moscow, i have it here for understanding. everything is very simple, if we are independent. telnye sovereign country we have enough mind. and i am sure that with our president it will always be enough for us.

i think they are becoming anti-russian. and accordingly, we will be able to be friends with each other , communicate, watch who has it better to share this and remain independent sovereigns at the same time. what else do we need? this is exactly what we need for you and us, despite the fact that we speak exactly the same language now yes i can not help but ask one question. you have, as we say, a contemporary of a professional person. here's how you watched our coup attempt in 2020 and why we didn't intervene , huh? you said the word how i observed, i did not observe, i ended up in the thick of these events, working where i

work, because, by the way, this is about the question of our uh that we are different countries, by the way , this is the idea that we have one people, but different countries, and to climb an elderberry in ukraine, he said the same thing in everyone. here is his books there is this here is the idea that the people are one, but the countries are different, someone argues with this. some people agree with this. so, since we still have one people and we perceive what is happening in our neighboring brotherly country as our own. for us , it was television then, too, of course, there was a very significant story and we practically only discussed it, while all this continued. and understanding that this is a story that takes place in belarus but this is a story that is separate. from what would it be called honed or practiced? that is, this is a model story that is applied there

some mechanisms. eh, they hone and work out. it's just that in ukraine they decided to work out one scenario. e to force. uh, including some historical prerequisites and so on and so forth, you understand, well , at least simply, because that's why the military scenario was rolled out there, well, bringing it to ukraine and here it, most likely, was not planned and not could. but because the belarusians did not swear allegiance to the nazi reich. it’s just that they didn’t take the oath, but the ukrainians. uh, many of this is a historical fact, we made a big mistake that at one time about the strength of historical reasons mental reasons and so on. there , this division was very clear east west , that is, very sharp in this sense, there is a completely different structure, and therefore, when recruitment was announced there in the division. ss there were people signing up voluntarily here it was not. we didn't have divisions, you certainly didn't have any divisions. and no one there burned khatyn, not belarusian policemen, and the ukrainian banderas have this, and this is also we in

the soviet union for the sake of friendship of peoples , we kind of forgot this a little. it is necessary was to be made thinner and smarter. we thought it would undermine. and we seem to be blind, but in the end , this is what i'm for, therefore, i worked out from belarus. here is this scenario through uh, the internet to the issues of mental warfare. that is, it was an attempt of such a more mental coup through the internet and so on and so forth, but i have a personal account, but i say this with a reasonable share and irony so that no one would attack there. i have a personal account of those who started all this, because i was pulled out of vacation for this business. i have me i usually plan my vacation for the second of august. that is the second of august, and then it went. and so i just started and then artyom grigorievich will be in the dark. come on, come, and here, please, the air is there. here is such a story. say that you have been invited to a wandering party. no, i already have to, i just like to talk so much that belarusian journalists have been replaced by russian ones right in the control rooms and studios. in general, i'm

being, working. uh, on channel one. in general , in a sense, uh, worked. practically discussing the belarusian events precisely because that for us these events were not strangers, not about strangers and not about something else, because we understood that the people who do this are the people who lead it. these are the people who pull the strings. these are the same people who pull. just different threads of other projects in ukraine, which are pulling the strings of other projects that we have. we understood that these were, uh, like threads of the same web that we tried. here, it means stretch, so i worked it all out live. i worked it all out, what is called in the daily mode. and i didn't just watch it. and i tracked it all every day, studied it, lived it through myself

, also because i understood that this scenario , uh, flashing the brains of people , primarily young people, is not uniquely belarusian, but it may be worked out in belarus because the country is smaller the population is less accessible more, which is roughly speaking, well, on a model situation , they work out, as it were, a broad one, what works, that all these mechanisms for collecting all these protesters, all these messengers. all of these here, uh, absolutely. that's exactly how i worked it out, realizing that this is not about any kind of freedom, there is no belarus about any kind of democracy in belarus, about any , just like we talked about ukrainians, about any not about belarusians not about such or not about such why didn't it happen? here you have drawn a conclusion for yourself. why didn’t you happen in belarus, as it didn’t happen in ukraine in belarus? as in ukraine and for reasons in my

opinion, e operational, because the country? uh, the population is smaller. and better handling mentality, and more such a weighted and the number of those who were able to reflash. or to fool it turned out to be below the threshold of the critical mass that could flood all this on the one hand, and on the other hand , what we are talking about the different paths we took. well, because the system of state administration, including the power, component, and so on in belarus is set up in this way and then, so that those who leave the edges, so that they do not leave the edges. someone may not like this, but if the country is focused on security, well there is such a thing as a social contract.

yes, so, here is the social contract in belarus such that, uh, stability, calmness , quality of life, and so on and so forth are provided and guaranteed. and in exchange for this, yes, there is a power component, there is a right , a legal law enforcement component. yes, not everyone likes it quite strongly in terms of stories about certain people. e stands for democratic rules and values. let these people try to go to europe and do something there that is not what they need stick their heads into the asphalt, because they simply never dreamed of, and even watching many are quite tough. eh, scenes then here in august of the twentieth year. i sort of understood and repeatedly demonstrated this, that if it seems to you that it is the belarusian security forces that are doing something so unimaginably incredible. as it was presented in the western press. take it later. actually, before that, there was a view, take any dispersal of a covid anti-covid rally. in