yes, andrey petrovich, the final word of today's program, as we said, the head of state is still open to the whole world. and this, probably, is our strong side , the one who, sometime in the twentieth year, tried to carry out a coup d'état, acted very recklessly. today is approaching, the elections are 24 years old. already in february in the twenty-fifth. it will be a presidential election. and for sure. all this picture, which is created by poland , the baltic states, ukraine, it was created primarily in order to form in the future namely, the loosening of the situation in the course of this election and the election campaign. i think that today the west is preparing for this more than ever, because in 1920 it broke its teeth in belarus. and what i would like to note today is this vector, which was inside the country at one time, was born in the twentieth year, and begins to shift beyond the borders of our state. that is, today look at all the structures created outside the republic of belarus and these structures

will not necessarily work. otherwise, the money invested by the capitalists will not find their way out and against the backdrop of everything that is happening, units are being prepared that will most likely try to undermine the situation on the principle of how it was in bryansk and e, in the belgorod regions. i want to say that they will not succeed. we know, indeed, we know every step, approximately every person who is involved in this, and we are ready for such a development of events, but our citizens should sleep in peace and think, we need, first of all, their political stability and the reliability of the border. i think the military politicians are brilliant at this task. thank you very much, we put an end to this. this is a wonderful finale. it seems to me that despite all the horror that is happening in the world in the end. i would like to remind you that prisons. what weapon is the fruit of the imperfection of human nature. people haven't learned yet. to get rid of those instincts and inclinations that

make one resort to terrible warnings in order to protect the freedom and rights of some from the encroachments of others - this is the essence of politics, nuclear, the containment of which has been forced to resort to recently and republic of belarus and how can one not recall the words of the us vice president of the late seventies , walter monteil. there will be no world war iii veterans. thanks it was the program sas is empowered to state. for the sake of its security, belarus is forced to demonstrate readiness for war, persuasion no longer works.

hello, i'm on the air program, say , don't be silent in the studio of svetlana smolonskaya, and tatyana shcherbina and today political scientist pyotr petrovsky is our guest hello pyotr hello pyotr, we are very glad to see you in our studio. hey, we hope you do too.

gladly came to visit us. well, let's start. we will not start with happy news, but we will talk about aggressive striving. at first, poland was told that they were gathering a thousand military men to our borders, then two, then 10, which means that poland is preparing to invade belarus, because something similar. yes, the accumulation of e-weapons and e-military personnel took place in 1941. but back then, they didn't pay much attention to it. here is a very curious moment. i would still not say that this cluster does more. how much more sovereign independent state. let's see, yes, 70% of gdp is more, right? a foreign company is generally 70% larger in the economy, that is , let's take the largest of them, the holdings of an enterprise, for example, oil chemistry, like the orlen company. yeah, or we'll take, uh uh,

a non-ferrous metal mining company. yes, copper, all these companies do not belong to polish capital. it's all foreign capital. there are two main mainstream parties. yes, this is right and fair. and this is a civilian platform. if we look. uh, who funds law and justice we see anglo-american business, if we look at the civilian platform, then we will see there , first of all, business, er, german and, more broadly , esau. uh, the polish business itself is a sovereign polish business. uh occupies a small part of the polish economy and finances other political forces that do not have such influence, and here the question arises. and why is it profitable for poland at all, with the polish national interest, to engage in such

militarization along the e eastern guns hmm let's say straight out that poland receives a huge amount of funds from transit. so, from west to east from east to west, it is clear that in this logistical geo-economic situation, polish national interests are a national interest, which , on the contrary, should demilitarize , strengthen transit flows of cooperation, including from belarus and with russia and the west, that is be such a bridge, but nevertheless, they close the transition arises, what is the reason? why and not close and here the answer is very simple on the eighth of august. e, 2023 president anzhi and duda signed a decree on the start of a parliamentary election campaign rating the ruling party's right and

justice, to put it mildly. such a task is worth it. uh, keep the one-party government as much as possible, which is what they're starting to do. for the whole month of july, they were engaged in the fact that from belarus the belarusian state and belarusians, sculpted the image of the enemy, that we are like that, we want to almost attack, to occupy the dump corridor, but, that is, they demonstrated that we are enemies , existential enemies. uh, polish states and the result is, by the way, unfortunately, that is, it begins to believe in it and consolidate around writings. well, by 5% per month, the rating of pisas increased, that is. and this is what the elite says, this is a bell. so we must continue. so you need to pump more. and how do you pump up if you

don’t transfer tanks and so on, so they start pumping up. this is one internal political problem. uh, moreover, supported by negative trends in the economy last year -2.4% of gdp, falling inflation of 18.4% this year, although inflation slowed down a bit, but the national bank of poland predicts that it will be by the end of the year 13.4 dash there up to 16%. here is the corridor of economic growth, there will be no attention from the growth of discontent that exists in society. this is one moment, the second moment, we looked at ourselves at this ourselves, something was very curious. and i'm surprised by some experts around the world who do not notice this, what he was or be, firstly , that the united states of america clearly

defined allies for itself and its satellites. those frameworks of geopolitical struggle those, the red line, which, in their opinion , cannot be crossed. and this nuclear conflict was clearly stated that the countries on whose territory there are nuclear weapons of various kinds against them, their direct military confrontation by nato should not take place, that is, we read between the lines that belarus on whose territory there is a tactical nuclear weapon against belarus cannot take place directly, but there is an invasion and conflict by nato here, and i remind you that the polish leadership was considered by the polish military, in the best way

preventing the so-called e-svalk corridor, and cutting off the western grouping of troops with pincers from the lithuanian side of the ukrainian side and the belarusian side in order to turn brest into boilers in grodno and prevent it. here is assistance to the kaliningrad region, this is the main strategy. now you need to completely replay. uh, all their uh, strategy regarding the suwalki corridor, and what do we see, but the accumulation of the maximum polish troops on the borders of the western ones for what so that we could not provide assistance to the kaliningrad region? and i want emphasize that the poles believe. is it possible to carry out a conventional, that is, non-nuclear war in relation to the kaliningrad region? why did they and the lithuanians already rename kaliningrad koenigsberg, i

’m king there, because they have a claim to these lands to squeeze russia out of the baltic from this territory. well, they also have claims and a for the intention to take away. eh, eastern rats, that is, western rats , one thing must be said about this separately. and how to do it? eh, you must not let the western grouping of troops of the allied state, apparently the army of belarus , could not come to the rescue for the defense of the kaliningrad region. uh, the methods are the ones they suggested the best way in their opinion. uh, defense is offensive. yes, rear support. uh for his army search here, uh it didn't work. they refused that they do they brigade. ah, the sapper brigade. the suwalki corridor throws to the suwalki why to mine from the uaz corridor their point of view is that let's create a conditional maginot line while we deal with

kaliningrad region. here is their redistribution by this strategy from the other side. they are not satisfied with the position of the united states, which put up these red lines. they sell the west a threat. and then they say, we must limit ourselves, we must observe these limits, they begin to militarize and begin to say to their american ally no, look, the threat is growing worse and worse. worse, the results themselves do not satisfy us. let's get more and more here. well, there is one more. cause. few people notice this at all, the most beautiful us ambassador in warsaw, son brzezinski, who was already known to have gone to the other world with bignivo-rzezinski marks, began a mass meeting with the opposition in poland on a civil platform. first of all, with what it is connected with the fact that the party is right and

justice. it has always been republican oriented. and it does not suit the democrats in terms of values ​​and in the strategy of this unpredictable chaotic bilitarization. eh, you have to understand that the western world is not like that either. that's what the americans said, everyone should have answered. there are britons who are just the opposite they are interested in the escalation of the conflict both in ukraine and in uh in eastern europe, even before the expansion of the conflict, this is going on and, uh, today the letter focuses on the british, who have tactical differences with the americans to contain russia and here the americans are betting on competitors ps here, and the situation we see is complicated, moreover, the americans see that the poles are sometimes unpredictable and they blackmail with this threat washington and

the american democrats choose someone looking to the east, tested in the cold the war is not enough for the germans, who sees the germans. uh, first of all, they were lowered when the northern streams exploded. they have become very accommodating and practically ruins their own economy while american interests, but on the other hand. they do not shout, do not yell and do not blackmail washington most and most importantly, but the entire infrastructure of the cold war in germany built all the bases of the command posts. nato has everything, nothing. no need to create. why invest in some unpredictable poland to create infrastructure from scratch? if the infrastructure is already there a long time ago, the european union , which today has ceased to be a subject, which is completely becoming a satellite of the united states, it is beneficial to them, and not just to split it up, and all these contradictions set them up and makes

, uh, the modern regime of the dudemarovedian fidget, get scared and nervous. because of this, their entire information policy. and in general, the whole policy is so militaristic, so aggressive, frightening, and i would say even infantile. eh, all because of weakness. does this mean that in poland there are forces in the ruling circles who are not anti-russian and anti-belarusian. i would not say that they are not anti-russian. not anti belarusian. i would say that there is a conditional part of the polish society and polish. a view that examines and analyzes and sees poland as a national sovereign independent state. it is clear that they will not pursue a pro-russian pro-belarusian policy. and this is logical. and that's okay.

here, too, the most important point is that it is at least in the belarusian national interest that poland really sovereignized actually pursued a sovereign independent policy. this is indeed a fact. and that's what we really want to see. today, there is such a political force, including, for example, e, gaining a rating that has tripled. uh, a bloc of confederations that connects free marketers. uh, the nationalists of the polish national democrats are wrong to say and the catholics of the traditionalists are more than 15. cents of votes, what they say is a more sovereign policy towards both brussels and washington, that is such a simulation of poland, uh, the poles speak directly. look at turkey's sovereign policy, despite the fact that

hungary is pursuing nato and nato and the eu also a sovereign policy. why can't my poles protect their national producer? we cannot protect our companies, including from transnational capital that has come there, and they offer them a program. uh, this is zero problems with neighbors. that is, see leader of the french patriot party, and florian. philipon wrote. poland just announced that they will send 10,000 soldiers against belarus of madness. remember that all this is because of nato and the eu. if it goes to war, we will have to follow it crazy people want a third world war. let's stop this. if the hope that he listens or maybe after the elections on october 15, then he will not support it. poland's militaristic demands how many nato countries have carried out military operations outside of nato? the same france in

raspberry remember when the presidency of åland they conducted a special operation was not the same the fifth article of the charter is involved. nato is not. let's remember just recently, turkey's operation olive branch. it also produced in syria, no articles were involved, yes, and in the end , turkey’s northern cyprus is actually under control, yes, but this was done without nato yes, it was done without nato, that is, uh, i see that poland is being prepared, if they are preparing, then as a sacred sacrifice of such a hybrid nature. i do not believe that poland will even join the rats in the skhodnya and i can explain to you why explain because poland does not want to give away polish passports and gives belarusians and ukrainians the same rights as themselves. they still consider us serfs. uh, yes, arrogance is present

moreover in the polish establishment. there are two points of view and they are tied to what part of the polish society. these are the people from the crosses who left after 45 years kachinsky from under the baranamich, the former president of the ant also came here to belarus. komarovsky is also a lithuanian belarusian border guard to snevski, too , duda well, from the territory inhabited by ukrainians the former, yes, that is, these are rats who have a certain complex in their heads, and for example, for donald, whose tusk in general his grandfather was a citizen of the third reich and who fought, uh, in the wehrmacht and who is closer to german culture, he is generally ethnic uh, interests, some kind of cross-gangway, uh, which are separated somewhere and part of some kind of bledgement is crying that they have estates there? someone took him away, not

interested. that's why he is about the german orientation, because he has such a german culture under, in fact, he from under the free city of danzig. uh, his mouth was coming out, that is. e, unfortunately, the poles are very retrograde. hmm, how to say e , retrospective thinking, and because of this they are stuck and tied up in their historical complexes. and since poland until the eighteenth year was actually divided between three states between germany and russia and austria-hungary. because of this, in these parts of poland, people think completely differently, and for example, the deep krakowiaks from near krakow, they hmm , austria-hungary is closer to them, and they will never say that this is a bad country, that e caesar , e, the austrian emperors. uh was some kind of

horror and reptiles. no, they are very good about austria-hungary and this big hungarian-slovak czech austrian. uh, conglomerate, then earth or cultures. it's part of them they were raised in it. and now it's all rushing inside poland . moreover, i remind you that for some reason we forget about it. and who took the polish people's republic. these are the people who have always had sentiment within polish culture, uh, towards belarusians, and ukrainians and russians and it didn't go anywhere. and, of course, it is being reborn today in a new form. but it's all there. it's just why we don't work. we don't have enough soft power, it doesn't exist at all. let's say. yes, extremist telegram channels and tv and radio companies work for us from poland , but we do not carry anything there in polish. well, we would like to carry, but because they will let us do it, and we should not ask, who

gave them to do it? yes, someone made a promise to them , they just need to, well, today, instin internet let's understand that the poles in telegrams do not are sitting. it is necessary to study where they sit. they sit on twitter on facebook, you need to work on these sites. we need to work on them, including youtube, uh, space. it's all possible. we have. 300,000 ethnic poles and this is our capital for working with poland . they tried to get bored. e these ethnic poles are here to make inter-ethnic conflict. for us, this is our national capital. that's why i tell everyone, don't be afraid of ethnic order. ethnic poles in belarus are our soft power in poland, that is, we need to work like a bridge, uh, with uh, that part of e polish society, which is ready, and believe me, there are quite a lot of them , this is a part of polish civil society, which should help strengthen polish sovereignty. i would say that our

ethnic poles are part of our civil society. and they have those nationally oriented. uh, part of the elite that is ready to work with us despite the sanctions that exist and there are at least 20 such, according to various estimates. believe me, 20% of the population 20% in the elections. this is at least the party must be in coalition and should influence the decision within the polish state and society to politka, uh, external. poland was more balanced. we are not saying that poland should leave the european union. and nato is an internal matter. poland, but we are talking about the fact that poland should pursue a more pragmatic sovereign policy towards its own neighbors and not use its compatriots for destructive extremist purposes. let's think about all this in a pause, i remind you of our telegram channel. say don't be silent.

subscribe suggest us guests and ask your questions. we are in touch. be quiet. and today our guest is a political scientist. pyotr petrovsky pyotr ukraine is building strongholds of the armed forces of ukraine on the border with belarus, volyn region, and the photo was published by the commander of the combined forces of the armed forces nive. what are they preparing for? we declare and say everywhere that we are not going to attack in fact. we must understand the logic of the kiev regime and understand its structure. many say, here it is consolidated and other actually different services various. persons inside the kiev regime, they are lobbying someone's interests, someone's internal yes, there or graphic, but the majority, especially in the power bloc, are tied to uh, there are

american intelligence services. british intelligence services, there are others. and it all depends on what they are doing today . the strategic task of the kiev regime is to prevent the northern front. in fact, and all these fortifications are an attempt to create this defensive zone, but you need to understand that inside the kiev regime there is a for example, and the lobbyists of british interests, and the british are also interested in the field of teams. it is interesting, by the way, that in relation to belarus, uh, from the side of the kiev regime, some kind of hybrid attack attacks took place. well, remember, uh, the minister of defense of belarus and the secretary of the security council of belarus here they are together, in my opinion, a year ago, the chairman of the state security committee. they told all these

plans. that is, supposedly some kind of belarusian regiment there. yes, he enters, taking part of the territory , and announces that he is not. here the government in exile, western countries give them embassies and consulates. well, the scenario is famous, but the kiev regime is acting against it. why? because it needs those who the poles or the british want there , to send belarusian fugitive trains to the belarusian direction, they need to go to the south . uh, they plug the holes, that is, uh, today the kiev regime. there is a military shortage. the forces are going total totalitarian , i would even say mobilization, and this is a contradiction, including in belarus, which is strategic. eh, that's actually uh rips the pussies off mode it uh worsens his

relationship with britain. with poland the same, including for us, this is a plus why . because we have time to prepare the army for special forces of the militia to prepare, because we also do not sit, even our hands do nothing. we are preparing for possible similar provocations. but before that we talked about poland. that is why i say that poland, if it does something, it will be a hybrid method, because it will not contradict the results themselves, and secondly, it will try your best. this is a case from someone else's territory, in order not to take on the maximum responsibility, they are satisfied with the use of the kiev regime and the bridgeheads of ukraine for various kinds of provocations. what will happen, we do not yet know, why is

it that, well, elections in poland and such a suspended state of the kiev regime, because disappointment is gradually growing. this is goebel’s propaganda doesn’t work like that anymore, it seems to be constantly. this is the total corruptness of everything, this also sucks, of course, we’ll see recently, zelensky made an appeal, and that all military commissars will be fired is to the question of corruption that is missing. as a matter of fact, a mobilization resource. let's hear what he has to say to the u.s. attorney. nazyka nabu combs for pigeons 102 criminal failures even before sadeevsky mother 33 dollars niva region incons, bowls, district against word thrower chewing areas of donetsk

poltava detachable cats inappropriately. benefit from the illegal transportation of viscose knitted wool, cordon, our decisions are green for all regional military commissariats, in your opinion, is it really a fight against corruption or such an old trick to throw rebellious citizens to massacre the hated boyars. and so look, uh, before the kitsky regime, there is a real problem, and the military assistance that the west offers them. well, look at the result yourself, you need 25 leopard tanks alone. i am silent about the level of these tanks, this is the level of the fifties of technology, moreover, the volume battle of kursk on each side under 2.5 to 30.500 tanks. right now, here is 25, what

remains to be done is plugging with manpower, just plugging up, go fight. there were so many stories that people were not even prepared and thrown to the front out of fifty people, three remained alive at best, partial mobilization does not work, total mobilization already remains that let's row everyone. and now they are trying to change the work in the military registration and enlistment office in order to row. everything is clear that corruption only 9 million people left ukraine yes how many dead we do not know by numbers, but we can analyze? how much is the data. how many puts were made 200.000? there are sociological studies. yes , even before the so-called counteroffensive from may 25

to june 4, the kiev international institute of sociology conducted a study. they asked a simple question. how many relatives, if you have close relatives who died 63% answered that, yes, this is a huge figure. that is, we see that there is a shortage of military manpower. even a tank, you need to to plant someone, there is a howitzer, so that someone controls them, and in such a situation, they are left with this. this is hysteria. uh, in order to get something as grippy as possible, how much they will defeat corruption, and we saw the results of nato ourselves, too, in ukraine. yes, these rules for joining nato, common to ukraine, were supplemented by the fight against corruption, but in fact, external control is already real external. they have

such a body, few of us talk about it in english, the national anti- corruption agency in ukraine and this agency actually formed by the americans, and today it meets the off-screen policy. remember winter personnel. what were the drastic layoffs? yes, that is, management through personnel policy from the outside and they are told that you should be managed, then reform. you must sell everything to western companies, because you are your oligarchs and corrupt officials. here it is their oligarchy of corruption, yes. then uh, you must uh change the control system, we will manage you. yes? uh, such requirements that never were for joining nato well, of course, to defeat russia, which in general, uh, the united states of america, which cannot fulfill not what ukraine does. yes, and so we must proceed. from this from that since those

realities, the kiev regime is probably the most carumped regime. i would even say not in eurosia, we can compare all latin american there with african ones, but nevertheless, why, let’s say, in ukraine , it’s customary to chase this momentary benefit for some, maybe even, there is glory with golden mountains for yourself, but not to think about the importance of the strategic future of the country. there remained at all. these are, let's say , principled honest people, honest people remained on the question, where did they leave the money not in power. here. ah, the second moment, yes , she has always been present in ukrainian society. let's just say that too. it comes from the history of such anarchic behavior, than it is connected with historical upheavals in the formation of the ukrainian people, that is, uh. let's see what a zaporozhian candle is. these are runaway peasants, and not only

from the northern parts there from the belarusian parts. there, with poland, they fled from hungary, they fled there with turkey, they fled from russia, they fled. that is, those who wanted to voluntarily? yes, they are forever later, uh , few people remember, but ukraine was that territory. where the fugitives from the ottoman empire were resettled in the russian empire , such an entity as the new slavic serbia, serbia, that is, eternal people, such free- spirited makhnomas. we remember, well, we can remember the wedding of malinovka, that is, there was always a mental spirit that was there for himself . what is there behind the fence somehow does not care, that is, it always took place to be even in soviet

ukraine, this is mela the place to be. well, plus port culture. uh, after all, uh, see odessa nikolaev other. these are the ports. port culture is always tax avoidance. always a gray black economy contract smuggling was everything and when in the nineties they had the choice to follow the belarusian path or the elite in another way, uh, first of all, the dnepropetrovsk so-called elite clan is the strongest, by the way, in the ussr, i remind you that and brezhnev was from there not propetrovsky ruled the soviet union. and during the time of kuchma, he created the oligarchs and privatized this entire scheme. which, again , use the state for its own enrichment. well, a simple citizen looks at it all. well, if yulia vladimirovna tymoshenko is either kolomoisky or poroshenko or there, i still don’t know who can

do this? why can't i do this? at least it turned out the traffic police of ukraine, they just all thought that she should milk everyone who drives on the roads of her brothers, i’m waiting for this gray black economy. for seb, this is where the state institution is, how a burden it took place, by the way, today that's why we say that the ukrainian state is after the soviet one, the type that we see as a failed state, because uh, this is all fake . ah, the state. uh, when society thinks how to chop the state, and the state? to chop society, that is, playing such cat and mouse, it blew up this state like a soap bubble. well, look then in 2014 . we remember, uh, victoria nuland with her cookies. yes, on the maidan, and the ukrainians

were promised mountains of gold. eh, and, but still. we all see that these promises are not kept. they will never be fulfilled. we remember how in 1920 people also went around here saying that you would live in the new belarus belarus of the future. eh, everything will be beautifully chic and so on, nevertheless. here the ukrainians believed in it, how to protect others from this, including the belarusians first. if you are told that someone will bring something from abroad. there we must understand what it is lie. no one will just produce and distribute cookies in the geopolitical interests of rais besa. well, they handed out cookies. yes, but cookies. yes, this is a one-time action , is this what to prick the state? so why not take a grant somewhere and stab the state, because we have the same, in principle, the nature of those who in the twentieth year were the core of those protests. yes

, they wanted the state e not to be held accountable to the state by impaling the state give the right. i prick state. some called it that in our country it is even impossible to steal in a normal way. so it is in ukraine and bloody. yes, it is a dictatorship. i advise the bloody regime, then, who is interested in seeing such a blogger, there is burenok about ukrainians all over the world , he has a very good heading ukrainians, which are many. reached in various countries. eh, the west and returned to ukraine and asked why, for example, germany, but their legislation is so bureaucratized that they need a certificate here and there, and vaccinations, and other and other laws, that governs everything. this is how you can regulate everything. why do we need this regulation? and now, if you look, this is what ordinary ukrainians say, and this is not some kind of kremlin propaganda. this is a person who makes

a ukrainian himself a citizen of ukraine and does not share pro-russian views. eh, that's definitely a cut. it's a definite cancer of society. uh, this is a demonstration of how this post-soviet perestroika consciousness can be, and naive bey is infantile and you are not mature. here we see it, that is, if you want to cheat if you don't understand the value of the institution. strike, that is, the level of your consciousness in terms of. eh, the organization of society is the level of a farm, utorian consciousness and nothing more, that is, you don’t see behind your fence that the road needs to be built, too, and in order to build it, you need to pay taxes, and you need to hire specialists, the state must be strong in order to e to prevent theft. here is that money. well, look. now i constantly give them financial support from this west. and

help they wonder who will return this money? it's all credit funds. if they knew, if they thought, they would not take these loans today. but the loan is given for what the entire state is given for all enterprises for all the infrastructure, that is, with what we will give in kind we will give, that is, with lands by the governments that will appoint us. yes, er, here, here is the peculiarity, and in the public mind. propaganda e consolidates people around the image of the enemy, reading around the fight against russia and belarus, that is. here, let's remember germany is the same. here is the forty-fifth year of april. uh, a month yes, well-known shots when hitler well, already there, the nazi military enlistment offices no longer knew who were already 14-15-year-old children.

and they are ideological with a fuse in the eye, that something is worth going and fighting, because, if you ask, here are those who volunteer to fight for the kiev regime for what they are fighting for this freedom and for that system what to grab for samba, so that they gave us here on our piece of land grabbed for the seba, of course, the krusty fish to steal. yes, they are thinking. unfortunately, such categories they are geopolitical categories, i don’t think that the americans will create nuclear gold for them. so that they can grab for themselves here on this piece of land, and they do not understand that now there is a general redistribution of the world, that the chinese will come and show from everyone that you are generally, uh, an effective society. why do the chinese do a rating system so that no one grabs the ideology of altruism for themselves? you must not like this. hmm one of our opposition members discussed with me what patriotism is? he says, well, the state should be uh, carry comfort to serve us

citizens, my dear, what is this level? e thinking that the state is there a beauty salon hypermarket, or something else. you take from the motherland all this is not patriotism. here is the same thing that you invested, because when you are born, the motherland invests in you , a person receives everything that the previous generation has accumulated, then he absorbs it , then you need to ask the person how you will develop it. bring something else. it's in society. it wasn't there. and here is this sick post-perestroika consciousness. uh. unfortunately, the most terrible tragedy of the ukrainian society of the ukrainian people dominates and is happening today. why because besides this from this logic of small shopkeepers? there is already an ideology

that justifies all this, that is, this practice is covered by bandera ideology and it cannot be said that it is a bandera case if they are non-state in ukraine, but not everyone supports it, not all ukrainians. we didn't say that in the third reich everyone supported hitlerism and fascism. in general, uh, i remind you. hmm, in the soviet union, here we began on the river forty-two, in my opinion, the year. he says, do not confuse fascism and the german people. do not confuse bandera and the ukrainian people that there is idiocy there at the state level. uh, the fact that the state has been captured by semi-puppets, well, semi -underdeveloped people who simply relay it, the appropriate memory is put up , the streets are being renamed and there is no need to say here that these are not the ideology of the state. well, yes, they didn’t write to the constitution. then they have bandera shukhevych, uh, heroes, yes, but, but along the streets

you will walk and you will already see the school, you will look, yes, and in the end. let's see, they banned education in all languages, except for ukrainian in all, that is, not only russians, hungarian romanian moldavian bulgarian gagauz language, this is a national, uh, ethnic minority, which compactly lives there by 200-300-500.000 of their population. that is, it is discrimination and, moreover, understandable discrimination. on what basis, on a linguistic, religious basis, these are the practices that were condemned at the nuremberg trials, in fact. and when we we say that how to solve the issue here ukrainian is a humanitarian way it needs to be solved, that is, to carry out a real denocification. there is no need to be afraid of this word, that there is someone

to put in a concentration camp decification - this is not a proconsul. these are changes in consciousness. this is the rehabilitation of an entire nation. and i think it will end up being just monuments. uh, banderi, there will be no shukhevych, and, uh, there will be other anti-fascist heroes, and we must remember that lviv in 1936 was the capital of the european anti-fascist congress. and what yaroslav galan was also an anti-fascist. he was a ukrainian from golytsya. they come from somewhere and there were a lot of them, so our task. here , uh, as they say, lend a helping hand to ukrainians, explain to them, including in ukrainian, and are not afraid to do this. our goal is to protect the ukrainian people, including from those. negligent rulers, who, by the way, unlike hitler

, deceived the ukrainian people, deceived them minorities. that is, he walked with some slogans . hitler did not interfere with such slogans. hitler walked with really chauvinistic militaristic slogans, and this was the fault of the german people. why was it recognized as wine, and we have another question here. but it is clear that there is such an expression. what kind what kind of people is this power? ah, but the question here is what arises, for me, but the question is that yes, maybe the ukrainians have such a trick there, but all the rulers of ukraine are independent , they all lied, just to their own people. they manipulated them. against the backdrop of ukraine, i 'll be honest, i hate one profession

of political technologists. these are liars who brainwash people so that those people do not vote for negligent people, for liars, for bandits, for thieves. in short, those of that part of society that should not be in power in ukraine in general, they turned out to be technologists such people. just to power. quite right. let's take a moment now. let's take a break. after a short pause, we will return to this studio, while subscribe to our telegram channel. it 's called say don't be silent, but all of our look for releases on the youtube channel of belarus 1. on the air again, say the program, do not be silent. we have a political scientist visiting us. pyotr petrovsky pyotr the leaders of twenty-three countries have declared their desire to join brix, there is still the sco eaeu, and these countries are very different in their political system , religions, different economies. they have a social

structure, culture, and so on, how strong and long-term these associations can be. here's a question to ask right now. what is this association? for what? were they created? the same brix yes originally. it's actually an abbreviation for countries that developed quite dynamically in the zero years. it was introduced by western economists. and uh, here is the connection of these countries , it gave rise to the fact that the leaders of these countries began to create an interest club after when it intensified. thai india when these countries began to pursue a more consolidated policy in defense of their own existence of sovereignty, this club became a symbol of those countries that do not quite like that unipolar western world that the united states

imposed and gradually brix gradually became an irritant and a symbol of multipolarity. and why there are many countries that want to join today. that's abrupt, of course, to enter there, and submit applications, because these countries choose a multipolar world. but they have one basic association. here they have this anti-colonialism and complete dissatisfaction. uh, that discriminatory policy from the west that they feel about themselves, that is, and the main point is the club of interests, so far there is such a set of countries that want a new multipolar more just world. it's more economic. uh, after all, hmm, it’s more political damn, in its structure it’s him plus the obse,

if you say in such places in terms what it is, and it has a fairly large perspective and an increase in interest in it. yes? uh, more than that, let's remember the initiative of the president of belarus , which he expressed last year. he was at the eu summit in bishkek, where he said that let's create a format. eu plus sco plus brix that is, this is such a general format for creating a collective east, what i call a collective east. is it correct speak? the east, after all, is also latin america. and that's why i call it the collective east, because traditionally in uh in cultural studies in the theory of civilization , geopolitics, the division into the collective west and the countries of the east and this is not a division according to a geographical principle. this is a division into metropolises and colonies according to the principle.

and today we live in that world, when the former colonies, or those countries that felt they were being discriminated against, they unite and try to emancipate themselves to free themselves from domination, the dominance of western countries of the collective west, that is, we see the second. a wave of decolonization by and large, only the first wave of decolonization took place according to a formal principle, well , they gave it strange, n-formal independence in the same nigeria yes, and all property belongs to french american corporations there. and whoever pays taxes calls the music. now, uh, this formal principle, that is, the provision of state instruments. he e begins to be supplemented by the principle. but the content is economic sovereignization and the creation of a new

geopolitical tools. e for the struggle for independence in order for the country to feel like an independent sovereign e, and we see why belarus is there and brazil is there and india and china iran and some other countries. uh, because we are all united. and not this multipolar more just world order, the reformatting of this world, which would really solve issues, and not just, as he said. uh, if you quote the minister of foreign affairs, india that, when problems concern, and the whole world, these west does not want to solve problems. and when problems concern the west, then the west believes that the whole world should solve these problems for it. here we are against this, we want everyone to be on

an equal footing, as far as this union can be, long-term, long-term and equal. i think that this will be a platform that will be an alternative to the un for the osce, and it will be more effective why because despite the difference of interests there is some understanding of the principles? pas, i.e. solidarity by the principles that the interests of one state must always to align with the interests of another state, and not in such a way as there is uncle sam and there are whipping boys, as the americans did, they demonstrated. here , yugoslavia, iraq, afghanistan, libya, they didn’t think about it, but they created an image for themselves, an image. uh, elephant country into utility shops and thought that the dishes can be beaten. eh, a lot of people didn't like it. at first they

looked closely, now they realized that it was time to consolidate and protect themselves and reformat the world peter thank you very much for the conversation, as always, we didn’t have time ask even half the questions. therefore, we will invite you again and again. well, we are very flattered that you sacrificed part of your well-deserved legal vacation and came to our studio and we wish you. spend it usefully gain strength and, as before, burn with your word. thanks a lot. we are tatyana shcherbina and svetlana smolonskaya. we say goodbye to you until the next broadcast. goodbye. goodbye. and now peter petrovsky says we now live in the most interesting era in the world. change, of course, is not always uh, easy but always interesting, so let's watch analyze. eh, to work with your head to think in order to understand where we are going, where

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