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tv viewers on the tv channel belarus 24 watch us every day witches do, belarus is closer. hello to belarus 1 to belarus 24 editors club program, as always we are discussing in this studio 600 on the street bakarenko, 9, the most important theme of the outgoing e, seven days, well, according to the already established tradition. allow me to introduce the guests who came to our program today dmitry alexandrovich zhuk head of the security council holding for belarus today marat markov chairman of the board of the zoo of the second national tv channel alexander pokovsky director of the information and educational institution

actual concept political scientist. and vladimir kornilov political scientist historian publicist journalists. good evening. thank you very much for coming to our studio. how many it is written in ukraine vladimirovich so that there is no ukraine or russia for the editor, i will choose russia of course, russia uh, russia well, uh, we haven’t been discussing here for the past few years. so anyway ukraine yes, that's all, get used to it, because it is important for us to worry about words, and that's it. this is probably also the majority of the time. our program will be dedicated to this topic. although we will touch on them, the president of belarus gave an interview yesterday to ukrainian journalist diana panchenko, i don’t know at this hour. how many 12 hours of the day is already more than a million on different viewing platforms, well, a huge number of, uh, views is not surprising, but the topic, first of all, worries everyone not only belarus

russia ukraine europe and i'm not afraid of the word on the rest of the continent. secondly, the president of belarus was involved and is now involved in these events. and, of course, we are interested in finding out some details, head of state. in detail, as far as i understand, he can reveal some things about the current situation. he expressed his opinion about the reason for which all this happened. such were made, and the mistakes of hello sheva to the fact that it all did not end, er, peacefully. i'm negotiating who's to blame. we can already draw our own conclusions. yes, on the basis of these stories and other information that came to us, how things are now at the front. what is the prospect of ukraine if there is such a prospect? now it is difficult to talk about it, but the forecasts are more and more tragic about the fate of this country. i don’t know, so i don’t believe, and the president spoke about this again, and we talked a lot about this, that ukraine had some plans to seize

ukraine, then belarus, you know, like the baltic states later. and then berlin is where you need it, but i weakly believe in it. i think you all do too. we remember maidan 2014. we reminisced before the program and then i watched in real time for hours. it’s just that sometimes at night the future even at the olympics in sochi at some point is absolutely some kind of nazi character, an anti-stress character took on the development of events on e, maidan and an anti-maidan appeared. i remember that, yes, the bus from the crimea went beaten people were killed were then they themselves were confused about their heavenly hundred, well, such and such a frank anti-russia was built , at least, but about the nazi regimes. this , of course, peered into the issue of crimea. yes, a decision was made on the entry of crimea into the russian federation well, firstly, historical lands. secondly, uh, russian people live there, but thirdly, this rhetoric. it seems to me that she pushed aside all the red lines, if the russian

leadership had them, it is absolutely right, they had in that situation as in my opinion. uh, to make a decision that they made, i can’t understand one thing, here vladimir vladimirovich to you. i want to turn to ukraine for a long time you lived and you are from the donbass, we all the time speak western. i'm still here, uh. let's, like a person who lived in ukraine well , at least one reason was for a simple ukrainian to behave in this way in relation to the russian federation, to the russian people, to the russian language, so that this would lead to such tragic. eh, economic political historical mental events. how could one succumb that's all and thus bring the situation to the present. well you know ordinary ukrainians. by and large, they did not participate in all this, if you look at sociology, even that period at the height of the maidan, most ukrainians did not support this maidan, that is, the same at the height of the maidan

, yanukovych was still in the first place in opinion polls in terms of rating, that is many ordinary ukrainians decided that this was not their war, not their conflict, that somewhere in kiev someone was fighting for power and nothing more, then these stories about the freedom-loving cities of the ukrainian people, it turns out a myth, if the majority was against why such a majority were silent , you still know that this is not their war, that, in principle, all this is developing next. maidan, you know, he was not alone, then all this will settle down. but when it finally came, the war came to them, when in the end they began to kill on their streets. why, how did the rioters come to odessa and set fire to people, right? and so on. here it began to dawn on many that this was it. this concerns them directly, but this anti- russian russophobic technology was launched in ukraine a very long time ago, long before the maidan about this

indeed, they warned both russia and the ukrainian leadership at various times. many played along. many did not believe that something could get out of control. and in russia, to be honest, for a very long time there was such an attitude to the fact that yes. well, well, well, the economy will take everything out, that is, there will be economic ties accordingly. and ideology is all secondary, tertiary. uh, and it was voiced after all, uh, at a high level, so to speak, and not in vain , alexander grigorievich said about this interview that everyone and russia and ukraine are to blame and belarus, that is, respectively, just like that, we all allowed all this, that is, at all. a big fault, but e technology was launched competently and was promoted for a long time scrupulously. and that's what you can't refuse ukrainian nationalists. well, and, accordingly, those who fed them. it's in the system. they have been moving towards this for a long time since

the 1980s, when they let all this diaspora, who were holed up in munich, into ukraine , they let it into its power, and so on. it all started all from the project, anti-russia. uh, got absolute support. that is, each pursued his goals, it turns out that those emotionalistic forces that were underground gained power. it was advantageous to get access to financial resources and so on, and the united states is there, i don't know, let's put it this way, but rudely. here the president has been talking all the time lately, only talking about them, that they receive the main benefits or received anti-russia in order to further collapse. i do not know, but in russia china and so on just as. she was definitely against the soviet union at first , later generally against, let's say, and some our common common civilizational interests, because ukraine, belarus and russia constitute, among themselves, the space

of east slavic civilization. here, in my opinion, the ukrainian ideology of ukrainian nationalism is a battering ram against this single civilizational code. and if we turn to the events of 2014, they were in kiev at that time and i can say that not only the rest of ukraine , but in general and the vast majority of the inhabitants of the ukrainian capital. they introduced absolutely law-abiding habitual image life. as far as in ukraine it was then possible to argue the category of law, and the coup was carried out by the hands of a socially active politicized reduction, the driving forces of which were ukrainian nationalist detachments, but it was not the nationalists who came to power. representatives of the oligarchic contrador, and the ruling sloyka of ukraine, came who simply adopted these ideas for themselves. uh, because in this way they demonstrated their loyalty to the states. well, objectively speaking, we understand that neither yatsenyuk nor poroshenko nor the current leader of ukraine zelensky in

the classical sense of the word, the adherents of ukrainian nationalism are not ideological people. that is exactly the same foam at the mouth. they could also implement another ideology. if they had some financial motives for this, i don’t know the motives there, for example, recruitment. i apologize for this word. yes. there may be a mental other of some kind of zelensky by representatives of the western politicians, but in all likelihood it is screwed up. he's pretty tight. that's because he sang completely opposite theses. than those that he expressed during his election campaign in 2019. remember, he was russian-speaking there and he guaranteed about you, respectively, he promised to kneel before the president of russia only for the sake of making peace, but then he turned around 180 °. why , by the way, was preceded by a series of meetings with the leaders of british intelligence, this, without going into conspiracy theories, these are absolutely known facts available from open sources. uh-huh well, everyone had their own interests, these are obtained in this situation. here parallels must be drawn. in the end. uh, it's always an active minority one way or

another with passive inactivity. yes, uh, the majority of the population, it implements its plans. and very much here. well, in my opinion two things need to be remembered, history shows how it was. this was in 1917, the same 240.000 great centuries. yes, at that time it turned over 200 million russia, no matter how it was. and that in belarus there was a different attempt to do the same thing, they gathered here with the help of these 100,000 million, as they call them, and half of who have just left, and the other half is here now, uh, repents on camera, and in fact, we are talking about those notorious three percent that they drew for us, and now, it turns out now uh. the fact that we are lucky, because in addition to the fact that the minority must be active, yes, that is , its presence is necessary to turn the country around, but there must also be a leader , so we had a leader thanks to which this did not happen in belarus, and now today we talked with vladimir vladimirovich yes.

uh, well, in ukraine it happened because there were no leaders who would be able to think about the consequences of what will happen in the country, and this moment is actually very important, because , uh, you must always calculate the situation in advance, and we talked many times in this studio that rocket when it flies into the house. she doesn't understand. who are you, a military commander, yes or a third-party authority, it arrives and destroys everything and the most important thing is, in principle, what the president spoke about yesterday, uh, in an interview in such a way that conditions were created for this in ukraine, and yanukovych did not understand this at the time. c did not understand what this weakness of power, which he allowed, would lead to. unfortunately, he allowed this as a result , hundreds of thousands of dead ukrainians correctly said about the conditions, but in ukraine there were conditions initially, because the most effective mechanism

for destabilizing any society. this is an internal split. there have always been conditions for an internal split in ukraine, and this is the division into eastern and western ukrainians. it took place and why it was from there that anti-russia began. yes, everything is very. it's just that i can tell from my personal experience that i would be a schoolboy back in the days of the soviet union in the early eighties. we often went on railway excursions , including in western ukraine lviv mukachevo uzhgorod so at that time, if you spoke russian, everyone could refuse the kid, yes, in the service in the store, as soon as you started speaking belarusian, the situation changed , that is, precisely anti-russia. they are some kind of ukrainian superiority on something, and it already existed then and it was competently used later, when with emigration they really returned those ukrainians who fled from soviet power and who fell into power. yes. let's

talk much earlier than 1956, when our policemen were amnestied , the ukrainian banderists returned these people to society. and these people raised their children. uh-huh well, somehow it was. but look what happened next, if in our belarusian mentality, certain actions are unacceptable, because it cannot be. i mean the memory of the war, yes, and the erasure of memory. yes, we probably have. more than 30% of the population was simply slaughtered. yes, they were cut during the war. there are not only germans, including the same bandera. yes and here is the return, and the ideology of the policemen belarusian society. it was impossible because of this, then in ukraine unfortunately, locally in the west, these things became an opportunity and began. all when in the fourth year i do not get tired. this is repeated in the third illegal round , yushchenko was elected president, in fact, having committed coup and with its help they made

shukhevych and bandera a hero of ukraine. this is what turned society upside down and gave beacons to the younger generation of ukrainians. in fact, they were told, you can zigger, you know, i 'll bet a little here, of course, it has begun. it's much earlier. i to you i have kept at home. sometimes he brought online directly showed on tv screens a textbook that, uh, launched, uh, in the early nineties. uh, they were published thanks to the money of, uh, the canadian ukrainian deaspora. yes, in ukraine as a guide for primary school children, where already there were muscovites ruins there, these yuri dolgoruky with these long arms, which are still stretching from russia to our present-day ukraine . this, of course, was launched much earlier. that is, yushchenko has already come to e, determined on the prepared ground. yes, but uh and uh with the children of the policemen, it’s also not so easy

to understand that there were bandera people. yes indeed returned, but eh! their descendants are a small part of ukrainian society. they weren't popular. u, in the early nineties, and there in ukraine, somewhere in western ukraine, especially in rovno, let's say, where they hated bandera, remembering how they massacred them. ah, ukrainian villages. yes, there w- you understand most of all, there, most of all, bandera killed the melnikovites and bandera ukrainians, but uh or look yes zelensky then to uh, a red army soldier uh, yushchenko there, then, then to uh, a prisoner and so on. well, not the cops. yes, they all came from the superimposed e, friendship with russia of the people of the world. we have two pro-western presidents. after all, they just won. yes, in fact, uh, and they

won thanks to the maidan coups. i i mean, yunchenko and poroshenko and so everyone else came. the russian language is on a par with ukrainian friendship with russia , including zelensky, of course, first of all zelensky well, first of all. i would point out that it is still here. uh, let's just say, of course, collective guilt is present for everyone, because we allowed these disassemblies inside our house, that is , inside this community, which i immediately called the being a slavic civilization, but first of all, of course, those ukrainian leaders who either they had a certain subjectivity, like a godfather, or they should have had all the opportunities to show subjectivity, like yanukovych, but here the situation differs radically from the belarusian one in that other motives were put at the forefront. here, uh, remember, uh, our well-known medieval author mikola vysotsky has a song about bison. yes, before the riches of earthly happiness

, he constantly held on to the spiritual wealth of the golden power. that is, first of all guided by interesting states. lukashenka is leading you. yes, it's not that every sandpiper there praises his swamp. but this is true, no matter how much you look for it. uh, let's say the western intelligence services, which have colossal intelligence capabilities , some money. yes, the president's families are all laughing, they didn't find anything. but here the situation was completely different. here, vladimir knows well why leonid danilovich kuchma , at one time, agreed to this shameful third round, that is, the succession of power. after all, in ukraine it looked in such a way that but the ukrainian statehood planned after all, what is taken from viktor yanukovych, he won the elections, but by organizing mass demonstrations of street pressure and , in parallel, the diplomatic pressure of the policy of diplomatic pressure of western countries. here is the ukrainian state. kushva agreed to hold the third round and it was clear that there they would lose material reasons related to close

relatives, the presence of compromising materials from western special services regarding ukrainian leaders. yakovlevich same all people in ukraine are aware that for the last two weeks of the existence of this regime, proxies, yanukovych around the world have been withdrawing money. he was getting ready to run and in this situation berkut simply performed the function, let's say. so e detachment, which the cap did not steal, colleagues came up with stealing did not steal. yes, you understand the question right there, not even in his past, his past was already crossed out by this fact that the ukrainian people elected him to the post of president in this situation as well. he had to behave as he should behave himself a state leader, elected by the people , the majority of the people were loyal to him, the people demanded to restore order, the people, maybe they were not organized into some kind of independent, that means, structures to save the ukrainian state. although there was an anti-mayd movement there, which, by the way, the authorities periodically muffled, by the way,

but it was not organized. why because they did not believe that the orthodox bodies were able to maintain order and i can tell you that law enforcement agencies. ukraine if there were no political factor betrayals were able to localize these riots, and they cleared this square more than once, but in the evening, let's say, in the evening. they take away the most active troublemakers, hooligans, bandits of those who resisted and who offered armed resistance to the employees of the passage of organs, and in the morning an order comes to release them and all this is everything, this is the band of the formation. again, it turns out to be on the square. you understand what a devaluation of power took place, 16 police officers were killed. now everyone has forgotten about it, and this the first heroes who fell here for ukraine and how can there not be a valuation of power, when in that other case the interference of external non-ukrainian special services is obvious. well, tell us what they will act in the interests of ukraine ukrainian citizens of the people. no, of course, they will act in the interests

of these countries, which they serve, and ukrainian , let's say this platform. for them, it was only a field for achieving the results of their employers, that's all, and there is no need to let yourself be deceived here, that the ukrainian people. in this case, could change the situation absolutely correctly refracting these ukrainian situation to belarus e, as for me, belarus is an attack on ukraine that did not take place? now, if we want to know, uh, what was it that you can see, because in fact it’s excellent, a bit not only in ukraine are extremely nationalists. eh, nurtured prospered. believe me, we had enough and until now they are being cleaned out and such specimens have escaped there , of course, the criminal code, uh , the so-called belarusian nationalism, written out in the cradle, is crying, which means that the german abbler is later than the cia and mi-6 is just a junior brother, ukrainian nationalism and

cia documents that are gradually being declassified. it's just that once again we are told about this by a specific analytical note by an officer. a group, in my opinion, of the fifty-fourth year, which says that yes, of course, we cannot say that belarusian nationalism is an equally strong developed ideology in ukrainian, but due to the military-strategic significance of this republic in the defense system soviet union we will cultivate this nationalism in every possible way in 1954 there is an opinion in munich that changes memory appeared the belarusian edition of radio liberty still exists with a new eye. more and more facts are becoming known about the events. belarus of the twentieth year. uh, well, many eyes open. you remember strikes. yes, the whole country was on strike here. uh, we have here some kind of national national strike committee, in general, this man with a dubious appearance headed him then , look, he gave an interview the other day to an extremist publication, it’s not clear that the idea of ​​​​a hunger striker failed. he speaks for bridges. the whole country. yes, she remained, and then the males

were introduced in relation to the enterprise, allegedly at the enterprises they suppressed the people, saying that 10-30% of all workers of the country participated in the strike. that the numbers are highly inflated admitted? years later, people just wanted to see. so they said that the workshop was standing, it turns out, just one team did not come out six people in your eyes, then everyone in the workshop did this in this way, this is a myth. yes remember with us, as i remember now the plate to the european union in minsk people gathered near stella 400,000 people came out. well, then they counted the pictures from above, there are 47 or how many it is together with journalists and security officials. the whole party justified all the enterprises became six people in the workshop. uh, it was like the whole plant stopped, then these six people left or left in relation to the enterprise , standard technology was introduced. as you understand , they were not invented in ukraine and belarus, that is, they are now remembering the fifty- fourth year. look here. yes, britain made a fuss about the declassification

documents. uh, 1953. they demand to recognize the role of mi-6 already. the organization of the coup in iran yes, the united states has already recognized that everything has been declassified, yes, yes, yes, yes, the americans organized the overthrow of the last democratically elected prime minister of iran, they imprisoned a bloody totalitarian regime yes, a lot of blood and so on. moreover, there is now a british surname, there they have declassified, comrades of the british, mishenka, who, seeing that the american path is failing, he went and paid for what we now call the maidan. i just organized people whom he brought together and who were presented as these crowds, on strike, who came out to overthrow. this gave rise to intervention and so on, the technology is as old as the world and, of course, they are also trying to test it on us. you just have to line up, responding to the disease. no, move without problems. i like that in general the collective west has already ceased to hide the fact that

they overthrew the most different states to the most different regimes. for a decade on various continents, they no longer hide this. do not think more honest steel. they they just thought they could afford it too. that's all. yes, but these technologies were tossed and turned in exactly the same way. why was there such a hype in the media yes, what is there 100500.000 that's all, you must be, how all the inner person is triggered by these six people. the whole enterprise, they had to encourage the rest, well, follow the example, therefore, this is a lie, yes , the technology is correct, but it works effectively. if you don’t resist her, i ’ll add that, let’s say these confessions, yes, in no way, but do not beg. uh, subservience to the collective west on the part of those of its adherents who continue, let's say, to follow the fading democracies. well, let's say the states supported the pinochs and cracked down hard on

the reeds, what they say, in this case, little more was needed. the same thing would have happened, god forbid, if we had a coup d'état or, as we say , ukraine - this is something that has already failed in belarus. look, uh, a strict regime of absolute suppression of any alternative points of view, moreover, extrajudicial gases. remember this the program they threw out a few days after the operation. if you heard about it about this program. yes, they then quickly rubbed it from the internet. here is a temporary so-called transitional government exit from all integration associations of the border with the russian federation cooperation with nato belarusian language. the only thing that means the ban on the russian language is the autocephalous church, that is, they then hasten to register all that hell that they would have expected from over the next e years, this is all now they are already do not hide, because now in order to stay in the mainstream. here, yes, it has faded into the background. they should make the most radical statement somehow in fact confirm, that is, because of this

, the documentation is merged with the ukrainian problem in order to receive it. at least some funding for their activities, all these headquarters are some kind of ushmau. experts don't understand it anymore. how many different kinds of alternative cabinets have been created there. but the point is that in any case, this cultivation of nationalism is of course the product of our opponents. here are the civilizational opponents who are trying to use these destructive ideologies in order to sow discord among us in the classical sense. you can't even call it nationalism. this is a national betrayal. honestly. well, here they are, by the way, here is our skill, another summary of some kind was there. uh, pasha performed with a hahachnik. where did azarov come from, which ones from baipal do you know, that is , they complained about the situation, basically the main topic was that there was no money and there were no fighters there anymore finances. it doesn't fund itself kinda what i think will hit. there, 30 thousand dollars were spent only on this round table meeting. uh, one day and comments. there, of course, you should have seen one of my favorites, if you see that

here the belarusian television is discussing in khanaka. what do you even what do you do so, but as there are little interesting ones, it was such an attractive or sought after event for even running. yes , about 10 people commented on it, yes there, yes, and there are 27. how many thousand views in total, if there are also guys, journalists , who watched the broadcast. this is the impression that they all sat with smartphones in this very place in russia, there is the same structure outside the white and blue flag, such cases are going to . with the same goals. well, a single center will work. well, the message was very important from my point of view for understanding the results, no, because there is no money. yes, it's been listening to this for years. give me a penny. tomorrow i will use that later all these

tikhonov, but i would be here in the context of the information war. i would also add an informational confrontation, but according to the speech of this delevsky, in his own may not be conscious of stupidity , he revealed some cards. why are they saying that we had 100500 million. why is the cognitive construct being used already? note. they never write opposition supporters or protesters no belarusians hmm minskers in order to cover everyone up with this one world. this is the standard cognitive construct that should affect the human psyche. what is there, like everything else? uh-huh dynamo running and i'm running, that's what they mean. this is to ensure that our viewers are never deceived. yes, here aside for many years on the famous portal of three letters. well, yes, after 3 years, some details are partially revealed, which turn out that almost everything we talked about, for example, in this studio confirms and for a long time before that, the same thing. as for the ukrainian events, i ’m always interested in the question could we have avoided

and or now. that's also finished. in sense or here self-identification? yes, there, from russia , this terminology came, there the cycling position was fulfilled in relation to itself. yes, the creative class are people with bright faces, in general, what makes you think that your faces are bright, there, uh, angry citizens are not 3 1/2 clowns uh-huh, but some kind of angry city, for example, moscow or st. petersburg is a member of the commission on the return, citizens who want to return, and there are e not only bright faces, believe me, at least disclose this details, but sometimes collect our protests according to the data of the ministry of internal affairs of the order of 15%, e, the detainees were previously not brought to administrative criminal responsibility. many have repeatedly this issue with bright probably in ukraine the president spoke about how events are developing. let's listen and discuss. do you remember the moment when we agreed that

the ukrainian constitution would be amended with some kind of special status; regions, donetsk luhansk region, and then came to the fact that local elections were to be held there. this is what stuck in my memory. here i tell you absolutely frankly, what you do not know, no one has heard. we discussed these issues poroshenko with putin well, not the three of us, but separately, but i remember the conversation with putin. i tell him, listen to a good option. and why not, so that gradually over the course of a year, two or three, this territory would not be there. disputed and so on, as it was. option? well bring these choices. why are you talking to me poroshenko? you know, i'll bring the elections, they will be held under

the control of russia, i tell him to peter well , this year, supposedly they will be held under the control of russia, we can agree to speak, as i suggested to them. i will hold elections there, i will do as you agree. putin poroshenko and i will see you off. how do you decide. refused no poroshenko refused putin agreed to everything. and why did it end for me, then i thought so. listen well, this year, well, will lead the election, the second year the third year. what is an election? do you already know in ukraine? and calmly quietly, the ukrainian hryvnia will go there. uh, you will control this territory 400 km of the border will be ukraine in order to actually go to ukraine , but he was afraid that children would be chosen there, well, i frankly say that there

was such a conversation, well, not those this year, but you are closing here border. it's all inside ukraine not those chosen. people have chosen, next year they will choose. this is how the conversation went and then it was necessary to decide this issue is even more so in minsk, uh, agreements here. we agreed on everything. but we agreed, it was necessary to comply with these minsk agreements, but they were not observed, and i understand that no one was going to comply with them. i was going to fulfill the minsk agreement 100%. i so poroshenko refused. why not well, it’s clear that ukraine wasn’t going to hold elections in the donbass why not donbass held their elections it’s clear that no one recognized poroshenko, but you understand, could it have been possible to avoid, uh,

there were theoretically such opportunities for hostilities a huge number, since the ninety -first year, repeatedly, and russia had the opportunity to correct e, so let's say the policy of ukraine in ukraine was massively opportunities. some of them. e, alexandrovich recalled just in this interview. uh, in the nineties and then, that is , yanukovych had the opportunity not to bring the maidan to this, and even more so, such bloody events were massively possible, you understand? today i was just discussing , uh, with marat sergeevich, the events of the maidan and i say that yes, for example, yanukovych i could probably announce. and then the anti-terrorist operation and conduct it in lviv, in fact, he was already trying to announce this very thing, then already in the midst of the maidan and then the war, probably, would have been in western ukraine, they would have bombed lviv,

donetsk yes, but you know what the most amazing and we have to admit this with you, we would not have supported him. yeah, we, of course, would never have believed that these bright people with bright faces, timoshenko powders, who could they think of bombing at all, donbass donbass would did not support him. it's in hindsight now. of course, we all understand it was necessary. yes, of course, now i would give a lot to the donbass so that the war goes there, and not in the east in the west of ukraine, so that it finds its feet, you see, nevertheless, despite the fact that many were warned both in moscow and in kiev that such scenarios are likely to suit him exactly. unfortunately, the west is pushing ukraine, but they did not heed much and did not take into account, did not foresee the danger of such a scene. in my opinion, apart from how to unleash a conflict between ukraine and russia on other goals? it's just that in this situation, i just don't see, well, because it was possible

to resolve this issue several times, but a simple formula. the president says, well , you lose the first election, you win the second with competent work. but secondly, you win the third border control. i understand that this is probably not the best option for the population of donbass. gave boundaries. yes, this is not the best option and blockade yes, it would be a blockade, but in general , poroshenko e did not want even such an option. uh, it's obvious to discuss, but i got it. well look what what this is my personal opinion. come on, that's what we see today as a result, whether decisiveness, or not decisiveness, but the ukrainian authorities and the current head of the ukrainian state of the previous one , which turned out to be some kind of big one. the group formed their personal personal ambitions, and for the sake of these personal ambitions , some kind of line of behavior was developed. yes, perhaps it was developed under dictation. west it is not excluded, but they

saw themselves as arbiters, yes, and those individuals who make decisions. and what is the result here it is personal that prevailed over the state, what the president was talking about when the conflict in ukraine began on your territory. volodymyr is at war stop the killing of citizens of ukraine yes, and so today , for these ambitions, the ukrainian people pay with their lives and their sons. that's where the disaster is. it seems to me that poroshenko was not really going to do this, he needed it, apparently a pause in order to put it mildly, to correct these positions, which at that time were clearly losing the ukrainian army in the first place. and zelensky when he walked to the elections. yes, this is peaceful anti-war rhetoric. uh, promises to end the war in the donbass, promises of peace he's also talking about the russian language. naturally, he spoke exclusively in such a way that the second half of ukraine, which was russian-speaking. he just needed to win

the election. the only thing i can disagree with is that they had more personal ambitions, maybe not. they certainly were only that to a lesser extent, however , i'm more inclined. well, this is also my personal opinion. i'm more inclined to zelensky absolutely. here he is an actor from this film, but about the president, who is absolutely nothing of himself, as a person he does not represent initially. here is even a trip about which alexander nikolaevich remembered. uh, to bow to the head of the intelligence service of great britain, when the president of a sovereign country travels, he only speaks to the office. yes , he doesn’t invite him to his place, he goes there to coordinate positions or receive instructions, that’s what he says. only about how initially, that this personality. she could not and was not able to stop this war and make some decisions. he, most likely, would have simply been destroyed, as, uh, a creature that did not fulfill the instructions to which he was taken, to which

he was promoted, but on the other hand. uh, if he really was a person and put himself on the altar. yes, he could have died, yes, but then hundreds of thousands of ukrainians would have been alive, and then, in any case, a situation could have arisen that this would not have happened, and even when putin was literally there in a couple of months. uh, the ultimatum put forward to the west that when fulfilling the conditions of russia 's guarantee of security, yes, well, we remember very well that this moment was probably the last moment when it was still possible to stop the war, but they could have stopped it. in my opinion, ukrainians are no longer exclusively back statement. zelensky that they are going to demonstrate the budapest agreements, yes, which means an opportunity. e introduction of nuclear weapons on the territory of ukraine by that time by that time ukraine had already gone so far it was like a locomotive that is picking up speed it is no longer possible

stop and the only engine of this locomotive was the west and it was the west that determined the policy. uh, first of all, the ukrainian president and the entire ukrainian government, which ultimately led to these consequences. but here once, which i would like to see again, as always, the whole situation of the president about this is not fully calculated. yesterday. talked about what would happen next, where the border would actually be. what areas will eventually enter russia in the end, because let's still, kiev is the mother of russian cities yes, odessa is russian, the city of nikolaev is also not to mention kherson and speaking of kharkiv, and so on, dnepropetrovsk, which is now the dnieper, because how the situation will develop further. and what are the boundaries of this. we can only speculate now, but i am sure that the westerners did not calculate this issue either. i would like to say that, well, of course, regarding the role of the west in instigating the ukrainian war

, i certainly fully agree that zelensky and other, uh, top officials of ukraine are behind it. uh, western instructors. here is the statement you spoke about in the denunciation of the budapest memorandum. well, how could the man who goes to bow to the trout, the office, make such a statement on his own, which means that he was told that you are moving further along the path of escalation of the conflict. that is, there was the possibility of this war. after all, he did not ask to stop putin to place russian bases, the military in mexico is speech. it was about that let's move the military potentials as of the ninety- seventh year not to 1989, but to 97. let's ukraine, uh, will assume obligations from her status of not joining military blocs, and we will act as international guarantors, because what ukrainians are dying for now. uh, i do n't think private mikola understands in the trenches. and what, then, did not hear that he was dying for the right to enter into nature. is it really such a blessing? yes? that is, it is clear that it is not their

interests. this is someone else's interests, which they blindly fulfill. it is also important here that the president drew attention to when diana panchenko asked him a question with reference to on the prevailing ukrainian public argument that zelensky defended kiev and ukraine organized near kiev and won some kind of victory. the president said that listen , russian troops could, most likely ukraine could, and by the way, i am also convinced of this. i also heard about it and read and analyzed these events. in my opinion military prerequisites. there were no troops to withdraw. that is why the russian negotiators became practically, and the political ones were colonel-general fomin, you want to see, but about putin’s reasoning eh, let's listen. they say they lead out on the streets with direct fire, an ersazo gun. anti-aircraft guns are not only there, tanks are hiding behind kindergartens and hospitals. as he says to fight, uh, according to the military with them. here also

speaks, we carry out precisely operation. we are on the outskirts of kiev, we cannot beat them indiscriminately . that is, he was worried that he would have to fight there. so there won't be anything left where the school is, because they hide behind the school behind the hospital. and the truth is, it was then i will not talk about the reasons there. you probably know the russian troops that were the guards left from there and no zelensky was reflected there, putin then withdrew these troops. well, you just said sensational things, because i know very well. the mood in ukraine is the basis of zelensky’s main propaganda now that he was the first not to run away from yanukovych, and repelled the second from russia. uh, the russian attack and another very important issue at that time diana zelensky yours was sitting in the cellar at that time. he did not

reflect anything, but the military saw how it would end? you understand the situation there were two scenarios, apparently, the scenario of the first deception of russia in the negotiation process. why did the russian leader, who until the last wished to avoid bloodshed, decide to withdraw troops, and the military man, i have already said colonel-general fomin , the deputy minister of defense of the russian federation looked at the negotiations, at least dropped the folder with documents excited, that is, the military was understood from their military logic that we are leaving the building of early occupied vantage points, we are losing offensive power, but there were political agreements. the president. hints have already said the jews, that is, his israel poles so and these were probably the guarantees of israel to the vatican and turkey, they all acted as an intermediary in these negotiations. the talks apparently assumed the fulfillment of russian conditions, subject to the curtailment of offensive operations. yes, and russia dropped its part. the west, as usual, is not, but here

you understand to condemn putin in that he sought to avoid the big one. but it is unlikely that someone will say it seriously, so someone will decide to do it all smart in hindsight. that's for sure just as many now condemn stalin for not taking into account the reports of the intelligence services on the impending attack of nazi germany and everyone forgets that there was a huge amount of other information that said that perhaps this was all a provocation with the goal of germany's pushing the soviet union uh-huh, you understand exactly the same here, of course , uh, the russian leadership until the last hoped that it was possible, at the cost of a little bloody demonstration of force, to convince ukraine to return to normality. this, unfortunately, is not happened did not happen, because the position of ukraine was very seriously influenced by certain people. uh, the then leaders of the collective west well, now who is he there colonism of the british tabloid, it seems that daily we write the ukrainian topic, in my opinion, there. and why is everything uninteresting? here was the column he interpreted, uh, the barbie movie

means, and the last one. it was wonderful that he was forbidden to dig a pool in his yard, because some rare species of newts was found there, you know, what did the politician we lost understand? mikhalych you head of e media holding. yes, in the literal sense, we understand that we are working on the content that is interesting to the public in britain, this is elevated to the absolute because these are all commercial enterprises, the public is not interested in johnson writing about ukraine , the british public is interested in johnson writing about losing weight. you see, because the perception of ukrainians and ukraine is somewhere far away in the barbaric historical world, not in ours nor within our western civilization and duda , which, by the way, polyakov is also perceived there in dudo. after all, he strives look more civilized, yes, then in front of the finder. what that he is, what he said is a cheap way for the united states of america

for the anglo-saxons to wage war. these papuans are fighting, but it was a catastrophic statement. probably all of you chile truthful die. it is cheap that keeps people from russia. american soldiers do not fight, and in poland they still do not understand. why are they outraged in ukraine? that is , everything was said right now, yes, they told the truth, but diana panchenko’s words were interesting that zelensky was like a true the actor after he came into conflict with alexander lukashenko was upset. eh, here, this is luba curious information. this is another confirmation. she would assure that she knows exactly and reliable sources. and once a person spoiled the relationship, they themselves were upset. this once again confirms that he was forced. and this is taking steps, and again, from which ukraine is indignant all the time that russian troops entered from the territory of belarus . the print said that you started a war. you remember, there was no closing already. how much about this was spoken of and the abduction of both people and

material things. values, but each maidan from 2014 maidan what belarusians were on the maidan and supported it under what flags all the extremists who were here belarusians went there, and then joined the formation killed people in the donbass colleagues the first mass noticeable riots in the republic of belarus that were accompanied by acts of violence attacks by protesters against law enforcement officers. there is a noticeable large-scale occurred memory does not change in the ninety-sixth year, those who wish can now see just like that on the internet a sufficient number of photographs, just standing there was a witness and even a participant on the other side. see the flags. yes. i remember militants from ukraine many of them the consequences were delayed. our militia received sentences connected with deprivation of liberty. that is, it has always been a factor. threats of the state occurred in ukraine, this is our history. although

more, of course, we are talking about the conflict you confront russia ukraine but this is absolutely our belarusian history nationalist circles are very closely connected with the ukrainian ones and uh, the famous video. do you remember when on august 8, the day before the elections, a plane flies from kiev, 3 identical young people and one woman journalist get out of it , who later said that when they were outraged in ukraine, the plane was returned back. she says that you are indignant, i flew with them and the militants flew. uh, in fact , listen to the belarusian maidan, we all know this, moreover, on the eve of these events, here, uh, the ukrainian special services. here are the active ones. by the way, they were detained here under journalistic cover, respectively, here is the embassy, ​​in principle, after the start of a special military operation, despite the fact that we should have understood that we are closely watching them, it turned into a recruiting center for sending our citizens to the appropriate bank to form our let's not forget that participation in hostilities on the territory

of a foreign state of belarus is interpreted as mercenary activity. didn't go to violate our legislation reasons, uh, let's just say to express a claim to the ukrainian regime , we have a huge mass, and yet. yes, we did not enter the war, but we will never betray our allies to the russian federation, as defense minister makei, the minister of foreign affairs, calmly put it. i'm sorry. he said that yes, we are not at war, but we are not traitors. uh-huh that's a very important statement. uh-huh well, nothing interesting is involved. he mikhailovich and those events that i recalled when he co-existed with other camps for the training of militants who went out to the square on december 10 of the year. we remember all this, yes, but our citizens have forgotten about all this. and this is the big problem. ours from the doctors. i'm sure now is the time. this is all history in some way through books through something else to show the society, maybe through a film. this is a very important moment. why it is very important

the fact is that i am talking about the ukrainian people absolutely normal classroom our brothers. yes , we have always had a very good relationship with them. yes, not besson well, what didn’t happen, but after the change of power in ukraine, and now those events that took place in the post-perestroika period. there , a base for training extremists clearly began to form as a platform, who could operate on the territory of states beyond ukraine , primarily belarus and russia, of course, of course, of russia, and this activity. it could not take place without the support of the central power. in kiev, it was supported by the central government. in kiev , even by turning a blind eye to their existence. it already has support. and we need to understand this and what we are being told it all started there, but with

the help of special services, work was carried out here. citizens who were invited there, who were trained, who worked with us. i told vladimir vladimirovich before the broadcast. what kind of work is completely open no need for any special services to connect the proposal were made open. choose we need to change one message in our minds is very important. we are trying to look at this situation from our point of view. here are some existence rules of moral and ethical standards. from that point of view this is nothing. no, we are an object that needs to be destroyed, therefore no norms and rules of international law, no morality exist. we, in their eyes, must become the target and the victim. that's all we need to say about it today, at least to pronounce it like that. well, let's move on, the president, by the way, said that to some extent there may be a little bit of an image of what goals from his own . at the moment, it may even be that a decision has been reached, probably, there is

no immediate military goals . the president suggested that ukraine after how is she? well still, let's admit i got a sick blow. but how many people were killed, the equipment of the selected territories was destroyed, you would never again behave like this in relation to the russian federation, perhaps this or only later in demilitarization, as we see it goes on all the time. yes, that is, if you remember what the ukrainian army was at the beginning, then there is nothing of its own there, there is nothing left. everything else western we see it and the destruction of manpower . if you'll excuse me, now they are interviewing the new york times, there and other western published by ukrainian warriors, and they say that we have upgraded our unit there by 300%. that is, you understand, that is, it means several times, yes. this entire unit has already been completely destroyed. and new ones are thrown and thrown. that is, well, in the end we understand that all the same, until the goal of complete demilitarization

of the neutral status of ukraine is achieved, where? indication of ukraine, the operation will not be completed. and when we remembered here. what proposals did russia give at the beginning, in fact, well it was enough to recognize what had already been lost, the crimea of ​​the dpr of the lpr. uh, not as part of ukraine, and to carry out these steps to demilitarize . if you don’t go for it now , zakharova made a statement almost on a daily basis. i also remember the minister of foreign affairs. every day did not say that let's stop, because every next day is only to tighten yours. uh, not only militarization is going on. i agreed that ukrainian equipment has already lost many times more and rso and tanks and vehicles and artillery systems than she had at the time of the start

of the war, that is, they and here the pumping of equipment took place, if not 300, then 400%. at least twice, but denazification is also taking place, and the president spoke about it yesterday, be that as it may, but the most nationalist-minded, the most combat-ready, let's say. so, uh, parts, including, let's speak directly, the same azov and the same right sector, they suffered colossal losses. uh, for these one and a half years, and anyway, this goal of denazification, and they were primarily supporters. this idea, it is also being implemented. even if by such methods. well, unfortunately, this is a defect, so this moment should also be discussed now, and the president spoke about it yesterday. now there is actually a set. these 300% that military units come here are due to these mikols, which are simply enough on the street. these are people ideologically not e, coached to the extent that it was e brought up all

the basic or right sector throughout. here to say these dozens are untrained, but practice has shown that nato instructors trained the first few waves in such a way that it would be better not to teach? it seems to me that those people who in ukraine were sitting in the trenches of the fourteenth year know much more than those instructors who were used to first somewhere in syria, uh, cover the uh city with carpet bombardment, and then enter there on armor. yes, the ukrainians complained that what their instructors taught them. what to do with russian minefields so a good soviet in all seriousness to jump over and in this regard. yes, indeed, that is what western instructors teach. we see that they themselves do not know in sovremennik all their combat experience comes down exclusively to the fight against the peasants. there afghanistan with disparate gangs. and so on it turns out, in fact, the ukrainian state and authorities have already lost the war today with russia, they are fighting with the forces of ukrainian

citizens. western equipment and let's continue now published the same photo. yes, where already, without hiding, ukrainian generals are standing over the map, or something, and nato instructors are already standing nearby. generally. yes no one is nothing mocks. you know, this is a caricature, reminded me that here is an old joke, remember the classic one. yes, my chickens are dying there, and you sprinkle there, uh, all around, and here are a few more , all all the chickens have died. uh, i still had so many options. that's about the way there are still a lot of ukrainians. yes, somewhere in the west of ukraine they are sitting, uh, warm and let people in , but the western press touches me. you remembered the new york times. and, of course, we discussed a lot here. today i will no longer give you these headlines, uh, programs editorial all the time we monitor. this is how they provide information. remember at the beginning of the counteroffensive the bravado headlines of the past program. i gave a dozen headlines there and how

they convinced people over the past year and a half that if saratov we allocate money with nato equipment to enter ukraine, then everyone will just be a khan. and i just see the shock of recent weeks this week. i don’t know how, in my opinion, the american publication was outraged that under some settlement 31 units of wrecked western equipment were burned and culture shock. just people who for a year and a half. they read it all, now they can’t understand why this is happening? let's, let's speak frankly no wunderwaffe. the west did not have or not. here again, it is argued in terms of implementation. here is our civilization, the russian orthodox civilization is conditionally german. they beat me more than once in the middle ages and ending with our day. that's why it's all in our history. we have already passed not our technique. not our soldiers, at least, no worse, as a maximum. better than that perhaps this war has such a protracted and stubborn character, because in the sense of it is civil, from the other side it is intoxicated, exactly the same, our brothers are somewhere

simply on the other side of the enemy. firmware in enemy interests on enemy armor is here, and they themselves are perceived here , remembering this statement by ben wallace. i never get tired of bringing it up, because you need to convey it to everyone that the outgoing british minister of defense said. soon, probably, he will also become a colonist of some newspaper, what is ukraine beta lebronders, combat laboratory where we test the latest weapons technology and prepare for war, 21 british official. ukraine at least thought of saying, unfortunately, it turned out that way, even he understands what it is, unfortunately. and when the minister of defense of ukraine reznik speaks with quite admiration. yes , please make of us, as if he said yes. these are laboratories, he says, i don’t conditionally quote, they bring very great benefits, because yes, we take the current, we make mistakes , we die, that is, in thousands, then these mistakes. the west will take into account the development.

what is the situation? reznikov. why are you so pleased with dani? all the rest, kuleba and so on, they are not in the role of guinea pigs in this laboratory , like citizens of ukraine. food is brought , you understand, something is a pocket just like that, therefore, why not traitors a little time. it remains to talk about beloved poland , uh, the baltic countries are not going to close the border with belarus from the baltic states. lithuania closed two checkpoints. well, there was a lot of discussion about this topic here. i think confirm said several times when all this was brewing that the ultimate goal would be to close the border, of course, er, with the republic of belarus and myself. it seems to me that they will bring it to the end, because it is primarily beneficial to their main owners, the united states of america

. goals were not achieved . i won't reach. let's speak the truth in eyes. and europe well, the gas pipeline was blown up. okay, yes, the sholi is silent there, but we know the willpower of this great politician, the same as e macron, but imagine the transit with the russian federation of which is still closed, but from china and e, swallowed by the people's republic will be silent, and with us this is also if the expression in dollars is billions of dollars. they are also transit countries. that is, it will be bent to hell, the final port and riga will be bent, but they don’t argue in these categories there. you see, there, you are right, biopolitics are being implemented. so they have a second wind, if it opens, which will receive warships with a much more powerful, let's say, deep draft. they see their future there today. unfortunately, the future in society is built on the basis of militarization. contact

borders is what ivan mikhailovich repeated many times in the program. look, they will completely close the border. this is an obvious fact. again, this is technology. e, which is no longer used for information for us of his society. the so-called delayed decision is a delayed decision. i think the decision was made a long time ago and was not made by the balts and poles. the question is different, so that this decision does not cause. shock in their societies, therefore , like this, blocking individual transitions. they will gradually come to the result yes, the iron curtain will come. it seems to me from the other side, well, it is being built at an accelerated pace. this moment is all the basic decision that in my opinion has provoked such steps. it was without visas. uh-huh what goals others can to persecute the same poles or turkey is good,

yes, what is the motivation? they say that wagner, uh, belarus has entered, so we have to close. yes, there are horror stories three wagner nuclear weapons migration border here helps from nuclear weapons. yes , talking about this was very strongly stopped by high migrants. they are only through checkpoints. yes, that's why we will be a soviet intelligence officer here, only powder stretching along the ground. let's just say more than 600,000 have already visited without a visa, yes and well i mean this year and these hundreds of thousands. these are the lithuanians who we shoot them ourselves. we are showing. we show real people who clearly go to see that here, uh, as a result of the union with russia and

belarus, uh, russian bears did not come along with the wagnerites, they don’t walk the streets, that here food is cheaper than gasoline, people live with bright faces. and we just remembered here in an interview today. uh, less often it goes that at one time, when two american citizens came to me, and to the studio. they but one of them was defending his dissertation in america at the new york institute on a topic that suggested that the west was taking revenge on belarus for this good, beautiful light one. an example of life without value without western values ​​is precisely for this we are being avenged. listen, well, everyone knows this story of the velichinska family, yes, which sought to save their children, the so-called lgbt and tried to escape belarus. their children were taken away by the spouses themselves in the pre-trial detention center and such cases. there are a lot in lithuania and i must say that they are still in what they are convinced, firstly,

that the people live without these deviant attitudes, they are convinced that the propaganda of the lithuanian attitude of belarus is completely false. they look at what and towards the lithuanians. basically, lithuanians. it's just that most of the people who come are friendly, no one from under means , uh, jumps out of the forest in a hat. uh, with the inscription kgb and they say, listen to the quince and us yes, tell us where your missiles are not happening. we are in general. e always e our state was guided by this formula, which was given by the president of the neighbors from god even sometimes. so i caught myself thinking that i would like us to respond somehow tougher, and lukashenka, why is he wise with the experience of politics on the breed of fever, it is easy to destroy ties, how does he do it? the same ukraine or the baltics are easy to burn. all bridges no problem. uh, exchange unpleasant remarks with each other, but we will live with these neighbors. our children will be like this there will be centuries more while there will be life on planet earth, and of course, in this situation we respond asymmetrically, trying to keep

some channels open, but for them and for their owners. naturally, every person who has visited belarus and is convinced of the lies and meanness of their own propaganda is already a threat to the political regime, he comes and says something is wrong here. and, if it’s not like that here, then maybe, and everywhere it’s not like this situation in poland, it still leaves an imprint in poland, the election campaign, there is 30 30, 3% yes, or how much it’s gaining now, uh, described. this is clearly fair, for the sake of it , it must be said that, nevertheless, of all the groups that visit belarus the least lithuanians are coming. well, what about writing? well, my personal opinion. here are no global changes, let's say in the event of the defeat of this party, it is not yet a fact that they will not lose without the government. even if they lose it's not a fact that they, uh, the fact is that there is one polyakov. the reasons that probably affect the number of poles coming to belarus and the polish authorities do not

stand on ceremony with people who show at least some loyalty to belarus , the census also speaks about this. yes , when e to the west or rather in the eastern regions. uh, more than 350,000 belarusians lived there at first, yes, who officially recognized themselves as belarusians, and according to the last 50,000, where did they go. they haven't really disappeared. they just forced them to stay away, there are no other options, and when poland creates an iron curtain between belarus, speaking, and poland, and they say that here almost the security forces are pushing refugees along with them, so we are destroying the refugees. they are meant there by the hundreds at their border, so we don't let human rights activists or journalists into this zone. this you need to somehow protect, including information, therefore. every pole who travels to belarus is a potential enemy of the country, you understand in your mouth sergeevich well , in fact, that's what you told

350 and 50,000 about. yes, in białystok there was a very simple mechanism. if you register yourself as belarusians, and that’s what you have most that you are belarus, you can’t hold any position that is financed from the state budget, you won’t be a teacher at school, you won’t be a police fireman, and so on. everything is closed for you future. you can now cultivate some allotment of land. well, in the best case of the crypt , a shop is open. yes and everything is to trade, that is, it is closed for you and for your children. this is the future. here's the mechanism. what is this here? what is the segregation of signaling about the fact that in fact there is a big difference between tula or pisas for us, that is, it is clear to go there is a consensus, right? and the sail-phobic policy and so on, but you understand, uh, what is uniquely

good about this situation in poland. when we we can get a suspended parliament there, when we really see the intensity of passions, it goes off scale. i think it will continue to grow when there is a march of millions being prepared and so on. listen, they have cracks in society. yes, it's clear that after the elections, whoever wins there, they will try to somehow bury these cracks, but in conditions when they openly unleashed a war against all of us. yes, you understand, well, this is the old one. uh, logic, the old tactics of war support a friend and keep opponents unstable. that there is, here, if pegs are now beaten into these cracks. right now, without waiting for the elections, we need to work, and quite rightly so. well, today i already cited this old magical formula sdd eat each other. so let them devour each other and remember how the soviet union sometimes,

not always, but sometimes skillfully used such friction in certain countries here. unfortunately, this whole situation goes much further than just talking in poland. we know that they initiated the introduction of many restrictive measures, that is, sanctions against regarding belarus, they invent these fakes with helicopters that allegedly fly over. through e, the border of poland is being returned back, while no data of objective control can confirm there a huge number of troops right on the border at the fence, which is fraught with provocations, not necessarily from the armed forces of poland, and even more so , there are enough corpses of crazy and interested belarus almost in live thrown over the fence. territories of the republic of belarus of the body, you probably too saw these shots. therefore, if they only chatted there in warsaw behind the stands, it might not be so sad, but here, of course, we have such a crazy person at our side. i'm talking about the state, they are not very much about the nationality.

yes. that is why it is necessary to support the tendencies that are now developing there within this state and not give them the opportunity to stop only at the elections. here let focus. they now have a new enemy germany, you know, for the last week and a half they have had the truth there, in general, about germany's intervention elections. now, even if now it directs, it is necessary to urgently throw the cry of the main threat from germany urgently transfer troops from this borch, released material we, in my opinion, have a fragment about the fact that it is described that the start of a campaign against german interference by the polish holidays has already been announced as agents should. well, not the kremlin, and now, yes , not on a german leash, that is, here. and i really read their comments about them there now . yes, russia and belarus have somehow been forgotten there. these are all the higher activities already all germans, tusk is a german agent and so on. that is, here, redirect this negative

energy in the right direction and, please, for the sake of justice, here on this anti-german mare. uh peace have been driving for quite some time and past the presidential elections. they used the german factor, that is , it works for them. yes? well, of course, but for them it is one of the factors afraid of the mobilization of society. you see, here is the nationalist ideology. she gives simple answers to uh, that's enough. deep difficult questions. who is to blame russian? yes, the germans and so on. it's easier in total, there was a lot of talk about the reasons for what is happening, but it's one thing, when it's always empty from ours, it always sounds interesting when it's western politics. let the former talk about it or reporters recently fortunately. i don’t know if you notice any trend or not, it’s getting louder and louder. on the other hand, they are talking about the reasons for what happened here in the east of ukraine yes, in general, eastern europe, douglas mcgregor, you know this, yes , this week trump’s adviser expressed such an interesting long, but interesting thought,

let's listen. the area of ​​globalist elites is ruling in europe as they are here and they all got their way with huge amounts of money because the people who control your financial markets and financial institutions the people who control your mainstream media now control your governments and they don't represent interests of none of the europeans. not i would say most americans, they represent their own interests and their agenda is to destroy russia and why but they would like to replace putin because putin is in charge of europe's last major power and this part of europe that has a national identity, a national language , a national culture that rests on the foundation of orthodox christianity. this makes russia an enemy of the globalists. they flooded our countries

with non-europeans for the specific purpose of diluting and weakening us. destroy our national identity, eliminate our national culture and, of course, destroy any remaining power that christianity could would have culturally in the west and they want to do that with russia because russia has huge resources mineral resources agricultural resources and obviously oil gas and many other rare metals these things are also at the top of the agenda. so if you can destroy the russian government, if you can take putin out if you can enter russia, you can deprive her of resources and enrich herself much more than you have already done with your behavior in recent years. several decades. here is where we are. and that's why russia must go, but russia is holding on. no one hides anything about identity anymore. he says that she kept a little bit of what i remember. i told how the americans came here and said, well , take our russian film. take away our

shows and let's say so in your mornings. e in english. let famous people read poems to children, they say, in ukraine, klitschko and poroshenko are read here. well , why crashed into my memory? i say well there are no questions, well, on american television then in the morning in belarusian. ah, a new land. got the boys, agreed on equal terms them. of course he doesn't want to work , or at all. eh, the other one. well, in principle , probably everything that they wanted. we discussed more material again with us for an hour 15 was ukraine but such is, and such is the fate, that is, i wanted to say ours, but such is its fate, while sad we will hope that this is all. it barks, although it goes in truth . very hard to expect. yes one or two against fifty-two - this is such an unequal fight, but i think that in every sense

the word will be victory. e is behind us, because it seems to me, no matter how propagandistic, not pretentious. eh, the truth sounded behind us and in our transmission. we, probably, have already shown hundreds of examples of revelations of correspondence of plums and so on on this occasion, which confirm. here, uh, this thesis. so for now , thank you very much for coming to our studio today . it was. well editors, see you next friday. right here. belarus shmatem prostrate, you can tell by those who threw in there is a spherical lake behind the non-random name of god's wok, the lake was called torn off with its obrysam.

what kind of wolf in maya lake is the correct form and the circle does not change for a long time, there is a long distance, that the wok sews people from heaven behind the right and shmat their such choral chandeliers in belarus the tv news agency begins information broadcasting in the studio olga medved see this issue.