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for corrections of some states, watch the popular science project science nearby on our tv channel. you dated the walls of belarus with a shmatvek history, defensive doyledism, we can budge from orthodox architecture and near this period, jasu round veilma is characteristic of them sailed away to form economical centers of ukraine and live all overpriced people, some at the skirmish of the city and ikeaniya were significant depur. uh, the lunges of the ringer go through the case almost far. played their meaning. it was an assembled revolution. cast iron. changed new cultural svedensky project architecture of belarus and the soviet period or the great polka from e. the temple lost its bearing value by the 50s of what late stalinist classicism, and the belarusians recognized that it didn’t fall out before
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coming to our capital excuse the scientists. you soul what it is on our tv channel?
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editors club, i would like to propose a legal word regarding western countries to stop
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using. these people robbed for 300 years, where possible, the tactics of glass booze in exchange for gold and oil are still in effect nothing has changed expert from diplomats begins teaching and will listen 80 years ago your ancestors came home to the land and killed 3 million people here. so far , i haven't really apologized for this. well, it was a long time ago they were nazis, these nazis had a nationality. there is no europe, it is under the feet of the united states , it is possible and necessary to negotiate with partners. it is not possible to destroy to the ground, no matter how bad it sounds, and creating something in this form will never work. naimana doesn't want to kick the run and bugger, supposedly for the rain. whisper, the leaves are shining, the sun is shining. i would like
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to have a closer look at this world. and every day to discover something new she is in it so. 'cause we cut it out with love. love to belarus hello, you are watching the program, say, do not be silent in the studio victoria popova and tatyana shcherbina and visiting. today we have a philosopher publicist writer alexei lermont. according to
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alexei yes , they wrote a new book with such definitions, until we saw in the process. it is about how to create a new union union 2.0 well belarus russia with the nearest environment with strange post-soviet space, and maybe not only in the soviet ussr 2.0 something new adapted to the conditions of the xxi century. lately. you noticed and wrote about it in your telegram channel that our opponents. such uh philosophers of journalists, uh, and their opinions and assessments. actually, after the events of the twentieth year, they began to sound distinctly both in the belarusian and russian e, information space. eh, the enemy
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has decided. here you write that the enemy decided, uh, to pay attention to ideology and meanings, although they constantly said that our ideology is emasculated, so do we still have an ideology, ideology should generally live in some kind of such a flexible plastic form, yes, in a living form, that is, it’s not just some taldy and there with all due respect. this is not the activity of officials, because when ideas embrace the masses, when they really, well, come from life. on one side on the other side. they have a certain depth of theory. and when they reflect a certain reality, yes, because you can't come up with a beautiful idea, if it does not fall on what we see around us, therefore, the belarusian state has a certain practice in the economy in politics in some valuable things. yes, and this practice is
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already being comprehended by political scientists and philosophers by journalists. and this is, in my opinion, a living ideology. yes, maybe sometimes there is a lack of some kind of brightness, some kind of beyond goals. yes, but we all understand perfectly well that no super-goal will work. if, again, it does not rely on the base, if people do not share all these things, therefore i will say that yes, we have an ideology. it somehow took shape even in recent times, but it is not registered in the talmuds. and this is the best thing in my opinion, so that it does not really become emasculated and does not turn into a house. date unfortunately , communism is in the soviet union, but nevertheless we are talking about the fact that officials are already under it . officials are under it, they are pursuing state policy. yes, that is, they do, and certain yes, and statements. but that's not their main job. they are not
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required. there great ideas or meaning. the main thing is that, in my opinion, he is very official. yes, to here, but to ensure the work of the state apparatus, then yes to that. here on a certain basis for practice it is wound up. ah already more such deep, ideology. yes, and that's where we 're going. and why are we doing this, and who are we in this world and with whom are we in this world, this is already work, probably ours. yes, that is , to imagine such a broader picture of the world, well , first of all, to the same officials and ordinary people, so that they see themselves in this world. who are we for what are we where are we and tell alex then that our opponents and enemies have paid attention to the opinion of uh, opinion leaders. uh, just 3 years after the 2020 event. uh, why did they wait so long, that they used to think that it was so shaking the air and no one would hear our crowbars, you understand, i carefully followed their assessments. they thought that the belarusian state, apart from the president,
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has nothing else, no ideas, no ideology, and therefore they thought that it would be easy to overthrow the government. well, there is no deep reason, in general, in order to power was steady after the twentieth year. yes, our information policy has changed a little and the voices of the people here, yes, who produce ideas and meanings. they became louder and there they saw aga. so it is no coincidence that this is a reflection of certain processes. that is, these people, these ideas are connected with the stability of the state. and if this is so, then you need to understand what kind of ideas are there, what kind of people they are in order to try to attack the semantic core next time, and not just the state there. the system of security forces or there are a number of officials, they see that it is not only these two subjects. there is some other superstructure on all this, it has begun to work together and shows
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efficiency, so something needs to be done about it, and they, as they studied the soviet union for a long time, allocated huge money for the existence of the institute. now they have decided to pay attention to us, it turns out that you are forming our opponents in parallel. well, what if they had naive ideas that everything and the head of state is made up? well, that's pretty naive. in my opinion point of view. you are now you expanded, so to speak, optics. yes, the head of state, of course, expresses the quintessence of what we have about society brewed. in a different sense, of course, he expresses, well, let's say a broader thing, but here's what he paid attention to. indeed, when they began to study there such things that just break their picture of the world. so i noticed that there was one article dedicated to me. and they say here derman, there he promotes the eurasian worldview, sees belarus and denies that europe is the center of civilization. listen, well, here's a man. i i just can’t imagine
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what’s going on in his head, if for him only europe is the center of civilization, a flowering garden of barrels, well , actually, civilization is older than europe, it is much older in china and india. secondly, they are now coming out on top. and thirdly. so, when you are infected there with some kind of eurocentrism or western centrism, and you don’t have any doubts at all. or maybe, well, somehow the picture of the world is different, because europe is also yes, why is it exceptional? why can't it be considered? just like the western peninsula eurasia yes special. well, india has its own civilization there, the peninsula is also china , russia is average. well, europe is somewhere nearby. that is, this is one of them super there exclusively, that something, and so i saw this for the cause. yes , how is it? that is. uh, a blow, you can say, i dealt a picture of the world. yes , the worldview has broken so it cannot be , despite the fact that i do not deny it. yes, technological development is different and 500 years old, it was,
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but again, let's be honest. why did europe get ahead? here are the last 500 years. all now it is already being questioned by her leadership. yes, because the age of colonialism began, and all the resources of the whole world, they pulled together and well, they lived at this expense. as a matter of fact, the robbery of india, china , america, africa, and our part of the continent also took place, and, well, no matter how it is customary to talk about it. this is what this barrel garden is based on. yes, where the roots go is customary. they still don't recognize it. this is a public plane. yes, if in america a little more this topic is somehow bewitched. yes, that the indian is there and that it is a zahar, yes, france is in europe in general. in my opinion, they approached the discussion of these issues and continue to conduct this one. well, yes, let's see what 's going on in africa, yes, that is, the revolt against, uh, the french authorities in the same nigeria
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yes, well, that is, specifically people. they say that we are against pumping out resources for nothing, france and france and britain largely after the forty-fifth year, when colonialism collapsed, they upgraded their colonial system gently, yes, that is, we do not control directly, we do not send colonial troops, but we redeem modes, we bribe their resources, send them cheaper to ourselves and continue to live at their expense. formal independence was to donate. yes. yes, yes, the puppets stood. naturally. and now, this colonial movement, which their soviet era began. and now, in general, it does not go anywhere, it has a basis, because at the basis of this they are not equal. not an equivalent exchange. when here you give resources, and you have some dachas, but in development you are still restrained. you can't jump out of this rut . colonial regime you won't be able to do that. well, it's a very interesting process.
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yes, what has now started everything in africa and i think it will continue. and i think your european colleagues, the generation warned the most european officials about this. and that this is inevitable, but we are interested, of course, in what is happening in belarus . alexey is entering such a phase. yes , we are preparing for active election campaigns and there are two points of view on this matter, either everything will pass quietly, or much worse than in 1920. what do you keep? i rather the second, because, knowing so colleagues from the other side, they act according to the template, if the color revolution took place, but in certain countries, and here this mechanism broke down. they will look for a new one here. it worked for some time, they constantly used it everywhere, the so -called non-violent resistance. that is, you bring out a lot of people so that they psychologically or otherwise put pressure
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on the authorities, but the authorities, as it were, left, yes , more or less peacefully, but we see that hmm, this mechanism has broken down on us. we have seen that in ukraine, they have already begun to use military methods. maidan execution there of this hundreds of heavenly so-called. that is, we see that some of their manuals do not work recipes. yes, they will look for new ones. what are these, judging by the situation in the world around us, i don’t want to scare anyone, but they will already bet on some kind of sessional actions of radicalization radicalization. hmm such manifestations extremists are terrorists. unfortunately. uh, according to their logic, it would be logical from victims yes victims with panic in order to scare people, they say, the authorities are not able to meet these challenges. but we understand this very well, and we are also
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preparing for this plus. well, you need to understand that the main campaign is electoral, still presidential. they will try to do something to train. here in the parliamentary elections in the elections. uh, local councils, um, but the main thing, of course, is the presidential election. well, in any case, it is important to understand that they will be looking for other methods that are not the same as before. well, from your point of view, it has already passed. here are 3 years. yes, in your opinion, what you observe psychologically our people became more stable. i think yes, for the most part, and even those who were then involved in these protests. well, those who live here, after all, well, there is some kind of enlightenment. this is good. on the other hand, a certain part appeared, well, which basically left, and there is already self-radicalization, that is, they are cut off from their homeland, this is a feeling of resentment and, well, such a restlessness. and then they are immediately taken into
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circulation. yes, if you are more or less worth something, you are involved in the activities of the opposition either by extremists or political structures are informational structures, but they are already directing them to fight against us. here are those who get emigration there - this is bad. yes, there they lose touch. well, it’s real with the motherland that they already have a different world in their heads , a world that was created by western propaganda or western curators who are trying to make them fanatics fanatics who must complete the task. and what task will sooner or later send everyone again to try to storm ours, and in one way or another, therefore , i would like relatives. people, and maybe these people, who have everything in their heads, have some kind of normal idea to return here, and here only antis can be , in my opinion, in some worthy world they can live, i don’t know, realize themselves in an impregnable
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way, because there they will even be forced to do something bad. well, what do you think, when will we again be stormed by new ones at all will they recruit leaders or will they try, uh, to take advantage of those whom they are already feeding? well, i think that this woman, of course, they will use to the end for them as a political symbol, but all sorts of militant leaders have appeared there, who, by the way, do not respect her. they don’t listen to her orders, like she does, and that’s why it’s convenient with this puppeteer that she herself doesn’t know anything, so they’ll say what they write to her, she ’s predictable and she’s predictable, but she fulfills political tasks, contacts with the leaders of western countries are knocked out there some means. well, the most dangerous thing is these militants. yes, and there are some public persons there, who, in principle, i think, are definitely not
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directly subordinate to her there, but they can perform some vile tasks that can be set either in ukraine or in poland somewhere. yes, that is, these groups, there thugs there are completely people who are financially dependent in any way and you can do anything with them. and go anywhere for any action. yes? before no less, no lines of red. unfortunately. well, you give advice. for those who decide to leave? where to run. you say not to lithuania or more, if you have already chosen europe it is better to go to the old part of germany france italy uh why in your opinion? it is better, after all, it's still strange in any of the ones you listed. they will be people far from the first class. why do you even give advice ran? well , from time to time i have discussions with different people, and i still went there and saw something, just, uh, poland lithuania - this is the cutting edge. yes, we can say that the line is such a front, and there they are simply
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looked at as cannon fodder in any capacity , whoever they are, because the governments themselves are tough, yes, and they treat belarusians, but we see how there in lithuania even already trying expel. there are more of them that interfere there, which means that by their appearance in lithuania, the poles take them into circulation and begin to train them to narrow down and engage in, among other things, some kind of extremist activity. no, well, there are people who left. and i. why did i give such advice just to fly in germany, france or italy, if here is a russian-speaking person, he can get there, he has a chance to get into a more or less normal environment. among those. sofa or italians, which will explain, my friend, that's all your frantic hatred of belarus or russia - this is complete nonsense. we in general, we have a normal attitude here, our government is completely controlled by the americans. here we do not share his goals. come on, better. that will be a normal
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person here, do not engage in nonsense. and maybe you will take root here, because there are a lot of such sentiments in europe, especially in the west, especially there in italy, the french are dissatisfied with this macron line for arming ukraine, so maybe the locals of this man who got there with some strange ideas, and in poland in a liter. unfortunately, vice versa. he will go even more crazy. all this opinion is also written in social networks. eh, your colleagues, that in five or maybe 10 years, belarus will be recognized as the most democratic country in europe, you support this idea. i don't favor democracy. yes, that is , what is democracy, if we understand it, as a feeling and an opportunity to live according to our own laws and rules, as the majority in our country decided. yes, to defend your values ​​​​and not succumb to the pressure of some external forces
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, this means that this is democracy, this is power people who have decided so and are governed as they see fit in this sense. yes , i believe that compared to western europe or most western countries. we really have the opportunity so to manage ourselves, deciding how we want in western europe, democracy has become a fiction. well, look who chooses the european commission. well, these are not ordinary people there , a system of indirect elections. uh, outcast officials who really govern the eu and create a directive national government. they are not legitimate vision of normal democracy. if people do not agree with the course, for example, in relation to family values ​​​​in relations with russia with the east, they hold demonstrations, everyone spit on them, well, or beat them up and say this is some marginal or bought by russia or, in general , crazy ultra-right trolls.
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there they will come up with a bunch of labels, and they will say no, here they are against democracy, and we, whom no one has elected and who distribute bundles of directives to everyone, are cut off not only from their own people, but also from the land. they are often natives even you are not even a citizen. yes, on the example of my sandu think this video. well, my sandu yes, but this is already a complete periphery when they take it, so i take some kind of fund of holes or a furrow? yes, this is an appointed system , no one voted for it, neither in germany nor in spain, that is, they did not go through the electoral system. yes, there is the european parliament, where 700 are there , politicians are constantly hammering something, but it does not affect anything. well, yes, the budget can accept to listen to some alternative opinion. this is why he was created, to merge here steam on the whistle. yes, one such alternative performance, some kind of irishman he was, you know
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, showing off like this, but a new opinion. no, there are, of course, people who sympathize and we are interested in listening to them. well, there are percent of them, well, 10-15 maximum, but they still make the decision of the system, which, too. well, it's very interesting there. she's cleverly crafted. here in the european union - this is such a system. where it seems that this is european democracy, everything has been created to push this away and here is the power. uh, there, well, shadow structures of clan corporations lobbying groups, uh, realize here a subspecies that this is an achievement of greater europe, i'm against illusions better to be honest. yes, again, i will say that i am critical of western democracy. if we have our own model, some kind of historical one, if it is effective in our country and helps the state to live , develop and people. in general, we agree with this, then we must say that this system is for us, it is for us, we consider it
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suitable, as it is called democracy. there is democracy in the veche system, i don’t know there. eh, even though the prince. leader. i don't care. the main thing is that it works and meets our interests, and we must protect it, because it is ours, not imposed by anything, and this is a value, because, well, it’s better to have our own. yes, we can borrow some elements , take something from the party system. let's see how it works for us, but the main thing is not outwardly. these checkers, yes, the main thing is to go. you just , in my opinion, the ideology of the idea. yes, they formulated their own better. yes, better. we 'll take a short break, i remind you. we have a telegram channel, say, don't be silent. subscribe ask questions and suggest guests we are in touch. on the air
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say it again, don't be silent. and today our guest is philosopher publicist writer political scientist alexei german alexei you have already mentioned the baltics in our conversation. here they are called in the emirates, not otherwise recently in our part of the world, in your opinion, what is, uh, a historical failure in the baltics in general when they broke. well, in my opinion, they broke down recently back in the days of the grand duchy of lithuania. the lithuanian nobility of the elite chose the wrong path, although the princes also had the opportunity the same vitavto. yes, after all, to bet on the eastern slavs on the orthodox faith, and maybe even lithuania at that time would have become a collector of russian lands, if it had received a mandate from the metropolis from byzantium, if it was the intellectuals of the orthodox slavic
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belarusian yes origin that came to the fore, but, apparently, they feared the assimilation of dissolution. here in our east slavic sea, therefore , the choice was made for catholicism, and then for poland they eventually lost virtually all their influence, turned into poles or a path of ballian lithuanian origin. then it led to conflicts with the russian part of the state. this, if we talk about ancient history in the twentieth century, is also, in general, the wrong choice they constantly made, that is, the interwar regime in lithuania under a dictator from medoni. well, in fact , it was about fascists. and just like in latvia, ah, while the soviet era, the unprecedented demographic growth for them is the main problem - these are two small peoples who naturally preserved the baldic languages. they are very ancient archaic, but it was in soviet times when
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communism, which they hate so much. here is an unprecedented growth of ethnic lithuanians and latvians, yes. and then they ran to the eu in nato, and this is already some kind of fatal decision. yes, because, well, it seems that demography should have blossomed even more , even more culture, there are dances, which they have always been famous for, there is the soviet era, and then it turned out that it’s tough under capitalism yes , when the western empire and if it’s the empire’s center, this is brussels or germany, the developed regions of western europe, for them all this is not interesting. what dances? which hierarchical languages, you your industry will be destroyed because you are competitors your workforce will be needed in our place to replace some arabs or, well, just take the best that you have in terms of demographics. and you get up. well, agrosay farms, a resort,
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and there for the germans of the baltic sea, they love it all, that is, in fact. this is such a fake statehood, right? when there is no real industrial power, when there is no e something of a real domestic state, so that you can say? i am sovereign, i have this and that and i can defend my interests. no interests. they do not fully support the sale of handouts from the eu or the usa for what they are told to be militarized, because this is the only thing they can still sell fear and threats, that is, fear of the threat to the east. which means we will defend them there to the last. that's what they live on, but, in fact. these are the constant unsuccessful strategic decisions. elites led to deterioration and deterioration. these states, including the people and the state themselves , were recognized on the eve of our events in the twentieth year, which, thanks to the belarusians, in including the ability to boost the economy. yes, we
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at least keep it, we began to travel and made up the bulk of the non-germans, by the way. well, yes, yes, but was there a choice in these small countries and small peoples, if they decided to refuse to turn their backs on the soviet union and russia, but then they were forced to look at these protectorates. well, yes, they had a little historical varnish. yes, after the collapse of the soviet union and there, before joining the eu in nato, there were discussions there, and they also went in poland. well, the so-called third road is there is neither west nor east bridge yes bridge which does not oppose itself to one side eastern or russian, but tries to trade there to live somehow here by balancing, without entering into a rigid alliance a anti-russian. well, first of all, there was such a chance. yes, he was small. there were forces, and even in poland, who
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advocated for this, but here , of course, the americans and europeans have already worked, who said no, guys, this is the game. i like her. you must become the front line of the struggle and begin to bring to power those politicians who defend it rigidly the pro-western atlantic line, and all the other margines, or, like, uh, andrzej leper mysteriously dies. yes, this politician. he was very popular, especially among. these are the polish agrarians, he was even called the polish lukashenka at one time, but now he died incomprehensibly, how orlando spak with the plum, which we impeached. there on charges of connection with russian business. well , that is, absolutely illegal, absolutely illegal things, sometimes even criminal ones, about which we will only find out later how the americans clean it up. here are all their satellites of eastern europe. this is sometimes very hard. and in this situation, of course, there were no chances, and
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russia was not yet strong enough to play. well, let's say for some of our own, or at least for some neutral politicians, and all the time is lost. this is already such a tough nato flank. and now we have what we have. well, now lithuania was on the border with belarus and put signs on which it says do not risk your safety. do not go to belarus, you may never return. them we may, we may like it very much. well, firstly, they will see that the picture that paints them propaganda is not true. people calmly walk the streets, live and rejoice. we do not have some kind of militaristic hysteria, which they can constantly meet on the streets. there , some green men are caught during exercises in the city, they can do it, which is why it’s a plus. of course yes. here are the economic reasons for fuel. e is much cheaper, so the poles and lithuanians go with pleasure. that is, here they are trying to build an iron curtain.
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here they notice before. everything was blamed on the soviet union. there, the totalitarian slender lets the people go anywhere there to look at the blooming garden. but not now. this is correct. we still learn from mistakes. you don't have to close. let them come and see, buy our goods and tell their families and not only. what about the belarusians and why we are not their enemies, in fact soft power? yes, this is how estonian teachers work, they are waiting for mass layoffs. our colleagues from tv news agencies, let's see the story. turn around the new school year in estonia there in the fall in educational institutions will begin to pass the language test of the school, where teachers do not know the national language well. i will fine 10,000 euros, and the number of teachers who do not speak estonian in the right world. may exceed 2.500 press reports experts predict that this will lead to the fact that in order to save
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educational institutions will be forced to start layoffs as a result of the number of qualified teachers. in estonia shrink even more. what are you predicting? as an expert for sure? how can this end up with the fact that they are sucking up russian-speaking education, only those who know these local languages ​​will remain. moreover, they are not easy to learn at all. well, that is, in fact. these are not fathers, ethnic estonians, latvians, lithuanians, who know how to speak, will remain. there, these kome. all the rest will be deprived of either the opportunity to get an education or a job, that is, this is the transformation of the gcd into mono-ethnic or, as they call it, nakrati, yes, and this is even more radicalization and a split in society, that is, there will be those ethnic citizens who have all the rights and opportunities
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to work, receive education, medical care will appear, because they will be fined, then doctors who do not know the state language and the only one there and transformation. here in absolutely, and the other part of society, which will be russian-speaking people, is struck in the rights. they just really push it out. they can't build concentration camps now. well, after all , the nazisation of europe has not yet reached such degree. there will be, let's say, against it. but squeezing is also soft. but this is hmm, this is a process already. it was launched when the russian-language school was banned in latvia, and now they will squeeze everyone else out with such laws, language inspectorates, either put up and be second-class, or leave. that's what in fact, what an alternative and economic demographic and political. it's not an effective
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strategy. this is an ineffective strategy if we consider society and the state in some kind of unity. but as i said, there is the top, yes, the ruling one, which sells a threat to fear, and for them this is another product. look how we dealt with the russians. well, give us more money so that we can continue this business. and in principle, five percent, probably, the population really has a bonus from this. here is such a trade in fears of enmity, and all the rest, well, they obey , resign themselves, and i who do not agree with their rice. terrorizes on a crate and so on. hmm the same nationalism. yes, and before nazism, in general, not far and half a century ago in august 1973. series 17 aired for the first time moments of spring. and now, then no one imagined that the idea of ​​​​the renaissance of nazism, voiced by muller performed by leonid
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bronevoy, would turn out to be prophetic 50 years later. let's remind. thousands of intellectuals who, over time, will understand that there is no other way in the world, except for the national one, with its appeal to our children to those who are three months old today. those who are now 10 do not need us, neither we nor our ideas. they will not forgive us hunger and bombing. but those who now still do not understand anything, they will speak. does the legend need to be fed? it is necessary to create those storytellers who will put our words in a different way, one that will live for humanity in 20 years. as soon as anywhere.
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instead of the word hello, someone's personal address. you know, they are waiting for us from there, we will begin our great revival well, in ukraine, in fact, they actually waited . yes, these ideas of nazism were hammered into the brains of the younger generation of ukrainians. uh now it will take well years, yes to reformat their minds to return to them the thoughts that we should live, they should live in a tripartite alliance, russia belarus ukraine e. do you have any thoughts how to change the consciousness of these people, how soon there, how much time it will take. here , too, you need to be honest with yourself that without a military defeat. the ukrainian state in its current form is impossible, because denocification, perhaps, when the backbone of this nazi state of the nazi system is broken. it was in germany as well. this can also be recalled in relation to japan the americans did it in their own way,
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therefore, without a military defeat. i don’t know what form it will take. hmm , the complete collapse of the ukrainian state, or a partial partition, but we can’t say this, because nazism is, in principle, about the right of the strong, who declared himself to be such to rule all the rest and for now, uh, another force you can’t oppose it, it’s impossible to talk. then, when a certain sobering comes from the shock there. yes, in response, that you do not think that we will put up with such a build with such ideas. many they are already beginning to somehow come to their senses with these people, they have to work, in general denociation. this is a very serious program with a very serious problem. and just like that, uh, you don’t need to do it with the usual methods, yes, and youth
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and the humanities. here. he didn't talk about storytellers for nothing. that is, this is what we started with, these are the people who come up with meanings. not fairy tales, really. well, one can say creates myths, someone speaks ideas best when the idea is based on some truth on such a consistent basis. well nazism, what is attractive to many they say, here you are the chosen ones you are the best race all the rest are slaves. all other serfs and subhumans, you have to manage them, and, uh, it’s very easy to get the dark masses into this, especially when they are drugged, when they don’t see any other alternatives, that a person, in principle, is like this. a high rank in general, yes, and that we are all one human race, even despite the difference in religion in skin color, but we have a human
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in that we can treat each other like caviar on mine as worthy and therefore we not a beast, but an ideology. that brings back something so animalistic to the human, that is , the tails of rashi of all who are not like you, subjugating them, and therefore you will live well. this is a dangerous virus, it penetrates into the dark mass of educated people and uneducated people there. here sits something human in a man. it doesn't matter from the animal, but here are the religions of the ideology that elevate him like communism or christianity there. they say you should still educate the human, not the animals. she keeps saying no we all remove barriers you be here a superbeast and a superman, and then you will be happy, here. you can fight the core of this worldview. not just there with attributes, yes, symbolism can be easily removed. this is what needs to be removed. here is a worldview
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that penetrates can penetrate. here even to us we see that the ukrainians are part of our civilization. here's what happened to them. it would turn out that they, as descendants of the winners , should have immunity, but no, these guys here, yes, not the helplessness of structures, uh, and bandera, which were preserved in the west and neo-nazi money. this is how they started the process. unfortunately, we also launched the treatment of this process. well, it seems to me that it’s still on the ground alexei well , you know that the nazis marked the ukrainians with the letters y during the great patriotic war well, they were different. recently, documents have surfaced, for example, and part of the nazis there rosenberg is their ideologist. he believed that in order to fight
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russia, one should bet on the ukrainian nationalism. they, uh, ukrainian nationalists will share this slavic unity. well, then he will send them to fight the russians, others recently. documents of the conversation of the romanian dictator antonescu surfaced. and hitler's internet, says no slavs, in principle, a problem for all of us real europeans. no rights, even ukrainians should not be given, the slavs must be destroyed. i agree with you slavs. this is not an ideological issue. this is a biological problem. they need to be destroyed by everyone, including ukrainians. that is, you see, anyway they are talking cynically. and these were all games with this ukrainian nationalism just to use them. use as a battering ram yes, at some time well, and then until the last ukrainian. but how does this phrase respond today, how does it come up again? yes, if we talk with a philosopher today, then everything repeats itself. all these events were launched on the technically still progress yes, and now we are experiencing it again. here
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, from this point of view, alexey, when we are talking about the change of elites well, just some globally what to expect? uh, someone predicts splitting up. yes, e society final someone says that anyway, well, he will win. uh, biden's team is probation. yes, there is at least some lunatic, but the conservatives will be the helm of the republic, and we need to proceed. here is from my own vision. i always criticize, especially russian colleagues, when they come here, trump will change there, we will agree with them. i believe that this is one of the reasons for some secondary even ours. stop watching. who will come to them. they have no strategic direction. will change. as a result of this, a process has been launched that is much more important than the fact that right now in ukraine there is a change in the balance of power, as it were in the world.
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yes, this is it, but because the west why is it behaving like this he feels that he is losing his dominance of power, and therefore he needs to weaken russia put pressure on china to use ukraine as a means to continue this wonderful life for themselves when they control everything, and this one is launched and the world began to watch. yes , americans are not all dollar-capable. need to replace with national currencies, china, uh, whoever says what they say, but he really supports russia. let not by public methods, but they stand back to back, and china, of course, in this situation supports russia, like russia china, in a future confrontation with america, it will inevitably support russia. our task is to make this process irreversible in terms of the fact that the west will no longer be able to single-handedly manage everything in the world, so that we become stronger in our alliances, and so that we could really offer the world a different
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agenda. this is important. this is more important than trump or biden. in america, what matters is how we fit into this new world. how will we emerge from these tragic events? i think we'll come out better and stronger, because it's still me or us. uh, because here, well, russia was not ready for these events in everything. but what is happening in russian society, in my opinion. this is recovery. and yet time will pass, and we will see the fruits , new politicians, public figures will come, who helped volunteers at the front there and so on. it's all going to come up. overcoming the legacy of the nineties renaissance to some extent. yes, i said, i would say that this is a cleansing and getting rid of this secondary nature from pro-westernness from some corrupt elites who will either leave voluntarily or be demolished, because
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the country that is at war there cannot tolerate some of the elites it’s great because when i i read political scientists, those who say that russia will have to restore ukraine. who else? well, as if real, who still living? yes, of course, and we'll take a short break. after a short pause, we will return to this studio, while subscribe to our telegram channel. that's what it's called. say don't be silent. leave your comments. offer us guests, and look for all our releases on the youtube channel in belarus alone. on the air again, say, do not be silent, and we have a guest alexei dismant alexei would like to discuss with you. why are we so friendly in such an unfriendly world. does this policy harm us? well, all the real threats. we still answer, that is, not we are so friendly that
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we answer some blows, but we do not. here's some extra effort to escalate. that is, so there is a lot of it around, everyone is raising the stakes, pumping up and, probably, someone should be. well, perhaps more so peace-loving and, uh, with a proposal for peace. yes, this is absolutely such an anti-peace trip. well, we have such a specificity, firstly, this is written in our anthem. yes, after all, our symbols are not accidental, if we say sing so that the belarusians are peaceful people, probably in this there is something deep, because wars constantly passed through us and it would be stupid, well , to engage in some kind of militarism. here, especially the country is relatively small and maybe our role. if we are at the epicenter just the same, here's how to balance interests and reduce. a degree of tension, when possible, but again, our opponents very often take this for weakness, which is why we are not pursuing
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an aggressive policy. this means that aggression can be projected onto us, but this is not the whole story. we showed it. just us we say, here, let's still have a peaceful agenda. don’t wake us up, don’t, it’s in belarusians to awaken this gene that awakens and then it won’t seem to anyone. i mean the aggressor. so far , they have not heard us, but i think that this is still a winning position for the future. we will have to talk about the world at some point, and we are here with our proposals with our own specifics. we can play an important role so that this world finally comes. and on what site you can talk about the world, i am far from thinking that on the site you can talk about it, especially at the osce site. yes. i think it shouldn't be such openly western venues or discredited ones. most likely something neutral neutral. i
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mean, not only switzerland, it has already discredited itself too. we tried to do this several times after the minsk agreements began in belarus, but the west forced ukraine to refuse. they didn't need it at all for us to participate there. now he is trying turks arabs african countries, if it is some asian country, for example, it would be. in general, it's okay. yes, but the main thing, in my opinion, is to participate in these negotiations. we are also a subject. that is, not just there again behind his back, someone decides something. no, i think that belarus has every right, but full-fledged participation in these negotiations about the region, about ukraine and so on. and what result of these negotiations will suit all parties and russia and ukraine and belarus well, all this is unlikely to suit, but i would say this is the minimum program for us from the belarusian point of view. this is a neutral ukraine which is not
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represents neither for belarus nor for russia any, neither military nor political threat. the maximum program is the union ukraine , which is part of the union state, russia , belarus and ukraine, given by the lord of the committee. i would also like to show our viewers more than 110,000 citizens. ukraine arrived on the territory of belarus on february 24, 22. that is, in this way we again demonstrate our friendliness and focus on the world, but these data speak for themselves. that after all, not all ukrainians managed to be drugged and eat the hope that among those people who remained in ukraine there are also people with common sense. i think so, although we all understand that in reality ukrainian society is split. several million have left for the west . several million have gone to russia . only remains in ukraine for various reasons. someone can not leave someone there for other
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reasons. someone simply does not want to leave the motherland there, yes, for various reasons, but ukrainian society is split, at least. here are three e groups, yes and these groups. they are also divided among themselves. well, we all understand that those who left for russia. they also have relatives in ukraine and probably the mood there is not in favor, zelensky is there and here is the regime that grinds just ukrainians, as in this war, therefore, but for now, there is a hard press here. propaganda and power within ukraine , it is difficult to talk about politics about expressing these sentiments, while it is impossible. but i think, of course, there are a lot of our people there, but when you predict alexey, i hear this union 2.0 as part of it and ukraine. to me it seems that you, of course, are a storyteller in the first place, because you know that these are good fairy tales. it's not muller's fairy tales so, oh well.
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well give, you what term for such architecture. well, look, everything depends, of course, on the exodus . if the freeze is on the current line of the conflict, well, ukraine will not even be neutral, it will still be prepared for a further attack on russia, let's say. if , nevertheless, the russian army achieves some other results or the regime in kiev changes in some way, mm. now we can to say something, that is, the regime in kiev. again, not about bandera, but already some more neutral one, then we can talk about establishing normal relations with ukraine , including allied ones, if it comes to this, but i think it can reach, but again , colleagues, there are philosophers and publicists who are in touch with you now, or is it impossible. yes, it is possible, i voice it so as not to set it up. of course they are , despite the fact that you also need to be frank part of them, she slipped into her nazism part in
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part of the underground traveled to russia, those who are underground, indeed they cannot be called, but they, of course, exist, and i do not expect release. they are waiting for belarus to play its role in the peace settlement and liberation. this is from this moron. well, that's why i'm still an optimist, simply because, despite this, a terrible experiment was done with the ukrainians. it's still the people of our root of our civilization, and i'm convinced. that we can free them? from this plague, but if we ourselves, uh, free ourselves from this naivete with which we started i remember how they wrote letters to angela merkel so that she would save the belarusians, and well, how funny it looked then, but today, 3 years later, it’s completely. really well, even the facts are not simple facts, they divide people, if a person has some kind of consciousness, his own , he can admit mistakes to correct them, but
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if a person is addicted, like a drug , it’s difficult for certain information channels there, it’s necessary. that's how a drug addict gets off these drugs to explain that there is an alternative point of view to show that here are his ideas. for what they can lead if they are brought to the end and that is why we do not want to let this happen . alexei you were very glad to see you again in our studio, how to drink pure spring water and talk with you. we want it to be easy for you. with your next book. well, the union let yourself not be long in coming, about which you are warming. we tatyana shcherbina victoria popova say goodbye to you today. goodbye. goodbye. and now aleksey dermant says, belarus has always shown itself as a country of common sense meaning. and this is our mission. it must be internal so that we all stay. here in such a healthy tone. and, of course, we need to help all our neighbors without aggression, peacefully and calmly explain our position.
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