there they shoot her along the embankment. do not stop this people, do not forget everything. we have already seen everything, both the death of our children and the death of our husbands, the death of our grandparents. we have already seen everything. we've already finished it. it is a matter of contrast between war and the norm. you understand, only where there is no need to think about where you can’t go, that you need to give in to the grass. only after seeing it. you never know petals or unexploded cassette, which in some areas without bulletproof vests. it’s better not to meddle, but leave the cartoons at home so that they don’t serve a trigger for shelling enemy drones that are actively patrolling the surrounding area. gonchan, please understand how it all works when you hear an exit at one end of town. and then the arrival - this means that our drone is standing and watching. where is the exit there in donetsk after donetsk, he sees

the exit, he sees a flash. there are guys standing there all day on observation, and they just have to correct themselves. he immediately corrects himself a little and immediately lets go there. where did the exit just come from, and the arrival that you hear is those shells, those missiles that you hear from their side from the occupied territory, that is, ukrainian intelligence officers claim that ukraine is only returning fire. the so-called counter-battle suppresses the enemy. but how will he explain the arrivals of cassettes, scattered petals, anti-move mines into ordinary civilians. the area where people die not a bit, not related to military affairs , most often bystanders, this can only be explained by the fact that donetsk is purposefully intimidated by killing innocent people today. i met a man who protects the sky over donetsk from enemy

drones aleksey hello a. tell me how the work of defense is going today. there was no donetsk. what are your functions and how does the detachment perform its tasks in general. well, our main function, of course, is that we ourselves fly, but there are also mobile groups that consist of air defense crews with electronic optical surveillance equipment. and yet, that is, i will not disclose. what devices do we detect, that is, drones. that is, those that are mainly covered by air defense units precisely at the entrance to the goh, that is, groups that specifically control to ensure that drones do not enter populated areas, that is, they do not carry out defeats. well, just like that, let's say this moment about cluster munitions , for an exemplary population, this is done so that, well, people begin to criticize the russian government. that is, that they are being shot at and that’s all, that is, this was done

specifically in order to demoralize the civilian population so that it starts pumping. here they do it all the time, but fortunately, by the air defense forces of our brigade, these moments are drones are stopped, because in any case , confirmation of the implementation of these are the activities, that is, uh, we are coping with this task. tell us about the activity of the enemy today. and how active is he in the sky and what does he do in order to demoralize the population again, and again, what kind of fire is fired against you by the density of , say, drones. they have increased increases. why? well, once again, because, firstly, the weather is constant. secondly, they have a constant supply, they are given money elementary that is, they are bought from them by these take quadrocopters. uh, countless. that is, they do not consider them at all. that is, you can put him in the next ones, and already, roughly speaking, production

happened. that is, they also have such shot down repeatedly. here they are more and more often, because they also do. it is clear that the emphasis on technical means of intelligence is very much worth it. we're fighting this, we're fighting this. and it's very powerful. that is , let's say, the greater their loss was, the less shelling will be in any case, that is, both the civilian population and the military. in in any case, the infrastructure will not be hit. this, of course, is that without an eye nothing will come of the fact that they are only fighting a counter-battery fight and responding only to fire, but at the same time we are faced with the fact that they are shelling the civilian population, including cassettes, including drones work. here's how you can comment on this situation. well, let's say this is a standard excuse for them, that is, in no case will you see anywhere, even that artillery

was towed, drove through settlements. this is strictly prohibited. that is, it did not meet such us here is in the fields masked. let's say. yes counter battery fight. they also have it working, but uh , shooting at populated areas, living areas - i say it again, it's just a cover, they come up with. they don't know, but they won't say that we're just shooting at the world. no, they'll say it's counter battery fighting or something, so it's all nonsense. and then you yourself know, here, not far from the city, there was shelling, where there the artillery was there. she's out of here even why am i shooting this stupid. it is their excuse that the steel is tempered in the window, the people of donbass today is the steel that, in spite of everything, will only become stronger, and believe me, you will not intimidate these people. they know whose earth this is and for whom they must save it. what will never

be understood, sold to the west by the nazi non -human regime of zelensky but for them, probably, this is different, but i was with you ksenia lebedeva see you in the next program. state security committee belarus, together with the tv news agency belteleradiocompany, presents a project of 11 belarusian people during the great patriotic war. the khodynka tragedy, we have been breaking sealing wax from archival

documents for so many years, we could tell the truth, which in fact was information , has been closed to white spots today. no, what happened in the forest village 80 years ago? man gumno, where the location is, the inhabitants of the village

of khatyn, so the translator of the battalion, lukovich, an easel machine gun was installed opposite the door, behind which it is not a pity to trick even then people began to beat and shoot at the running out of the 80th anniversary of the tragedy documentary from the series without a statute of limitations, they burned the huts. watch right now. hundreds of volumes of criminal cases, which reveal the details of the tragedy in khatyn, testimonies of the victims with a questionnaire of those arrested, protocols of interrogation of witnesses, accused confrontations, examinations, tens of thousands of documents, the result of investigative activities of employees

of the state security committee of the bssr, the cases are stored in the central archive of the kgb belong to state secrets. belarus came as an employee archive and got acquainted with archival funds. ours introduced me. uh, veteran, drew attention to a very large criminal case. it took up more than an entire shelf in the vault. and then i asked. and what kind of interesting thing is this, that is, all the cases, there are several boxes there, well, there are five or six at most, he told them in a capacious word. this is a hut. and when he asked me do you know who burned you? well, as far as you can see, but i know, of course, the germans burned. huts, he said, no, it was not the germans who burned the first punishers from the ukrainian company a special battalion from the derevanger involved in the destruction of the inhabitants of the village of khatyn was arrested back in the early sixties of the last century. and when i read and saw that they

were ukrainians, and there were all ukrainians both by birth and by nationality. i asked him. why aren't they telling us about it? there were never ukrainians anywhere during interrogation back in the sixty-first, iosif kamensky said the only adult who managed to escape from a burning barn, but ukraine was one of the 15 fraternal union republics, a neighbor close sister country slav, so the first company secretaries of belarus and ukraine decided not to pedal the situation. for a long time we did not open our archives, and we did not give these materials, that is, the information was closed for today e blank spots. there is no one of the volumes of the criminal case number 26 615 on charges, my dear. vasily andreevich, seventy-fifth

. for 48 years now, a phonogram of a confrontation with a wax seal, sensational footage. we break the sealing wax, open the folder and open the x-files. my last name is the formation in question 118 ukrainian battalion the security police, it was he who destroyed khatyn, the nazi unit was created in kiev in august, 42. in december

42, the unit was sent to belarus to guard various objects of the occupation administration in the fight against partisans, which assumed a punitive function during the war. destruction of villages it was from the side of the occupying troops. their daily , well, let's say in quotation marks work. the most famous action of the 118th battalion was the destruction of the village of khatyn on march 22, 1943, this operation did not was developed in advance and not included in the plans, the decision was taken spontaneously acted from the place. the tragedy of khatyn began a few kilometers from the village

at the turn. the partisans cut the communication wires and waited for the repair team, set up an ambush in a convenient place. on the hill, when the first car appeared, they opened fire. as it turned out later, the chief of the first company, 118th police battalion hans wölke , the olympic champion of the thirty-sixth year in shot put, was driving in it, and vasily meleshko at that time near the place of partizanskaya ambushes. there were residents of the trump village whom the occupying authorities sent to cut down the forest, it was necessary to clear 50 m, forest belts next to the road so that the partizans could not get close to the highway. kozyrev loggers became the first victims of the khatyn tragedy. they laid them on the asphalt. they all leaked, they beat them on the go, and my brother, well, from the gorge lay the oldest four bullets hit , 24 civilians of the kozyrevsk

lumberjack were killed, some still managed to escape. they were able to escape into the forest. it was on the morning of march 22, 1943. the partisans who set up an ambush, retreated to khatyn for reprisal by the inhabitants of khatyn, 118, a police battalion, departed from the shoulders no, as the connection was damaged and the unit did not know what happened on the road only after the return of the wounded cutie. personality. the squad was put on alert. it happened at about 13:00 , the partisans went in pursuit in full force and with heavy weapons. with the help of the ukrainian police battalion 118 , a ukrainian platoon was sent from laguisk. the ss-derlander battalion surrounded the village on the right and on the left, the first and third companies, 118 battalions in the center of the esovtse. we played in the street, and then pobeda came or went out into the street and started shooting, as they started shooting. so here we have bullets flying around us

very hard, the team of the cammer, the battalion chief, shot very hard. followed by a company of brotherly people from the houses and carried to the center of the village there was such a barn when i came to the barn. there were already 10 citizens there, including my family, i also asked why they were not dressed, what my wife adele was moving towards they answered that their punishers divided the people, continued to herd them into this shed, and after a short time it was completely filled, that it was even impossible to raise your hands, the size of the shed was 12 by 6. the translator of the battalion , lukovich, leaves western ukraine

. barn, when the team shouted there, it means that everyone who was given the command was to shoot from a machine gun. people doomed to death , including me and my family members, cried a lot , shouted when they opened the door to the barn, the punishers began to shoot machine guns from machine guns and other weapons of citizens, but the shooting was almost not heard because of the strong screaming howl of people. my 15-year-old son adam and i ended up near the wall. killed citizens. people who were still alive fell on me, rushing about, in general, the crowd, like waves, poured blood from the wounded and killed , the burnt roof collapsed, the terrible wild scream of people. even intensified. beneath it

, people who had been burned alive were screaming and tossing and turning so that the roof was actually spinning. the flame was great, it was i who set fire to their hotel for hours, than in the evening it was already darker and the galoshes were screaming and crying. everything was scary, like mother's day. something. i’ve been there since the morning, i’ve been saying a lot of fish, it seems that the sister of joseph kamensky is trying to become a mass grave for all the inhabitants of the village, the oldest joseph rudak was 69 years old, the youngest tolik yatskevich. only 7 weeks from the hospital. he burned down along with his mother ; the eldest daughter of minsk yadviga was most likely in the last month of pregnancy. shoot, well, then after that, who else

fired these and automation from the cops. where did it end. instead of khatyn executioners left the ashes in a few evening hours of a terrible march monday, the punishers were burned alive 149 people, 75, of which children under 16 years old was another victim of khatyn earlier unknown girl from a neighboring village it's about a kilometer and a half or two from khatyn today there is a forest here, and at 43 the field was wet, when they heard the shots they began to run into the forest. not on belyakov, in some way inexplicable today, turned out to be on field with water fedoras. where or where did she rush them from? today, no one will tell the girl

was killed by a random bullet. she became the first and at the same time 150 victims of khatyn. in addition to the 56-year-old blacksmith joseph kamensky , several more children became alive. after all , his mother had already covered lapkovich with her body, volodya yaskevich was hiding in the potato pit, his sister sonya in the cellar. they were my peers. covered with boards , they told about what the german had discovered. the board, and the kids are sitting there, and he waved his finger. and closed. i had a burnt back of the body and arms of my son. adam , who was lying about three meters away from me, called me to him to pull him out of the puddle.

i crawled up and lifted him, but i saw that he was cut in half by bullets, my son adam still had time to ask if his mother came to life and immediately died. i myself got up and could not move, but soon my brother-in-law, eskevich iosif antonovich, who lived on a farm about one and a half kilometers from the village of khatyn, came up to me and took me to his home. or rather, almost carried it. the village of khatyn was already completely burning down. on the farm bogdanovka honored bssr doctor maria anisimova, an underground worker who worked as a surgeon at the logoisk hospital, and on the third day after the tragedy, the inhabitants of khatyn were buried by the inhabitants of the surrounding villages. the men slitted on the pony and drove off, it was already dark

, we went to look. yes, there they slept everything, but the people were located here, burnt , and alive, alive. nobody stayed there. they were buried there, in that place the investigators of the criminal investigative committee of the grodno region came to the executioners of khatyn in the seventies. they were investigating crimes, the nazis of those who did the same gallery and killed people, 118 ukrainian the battalion in 1944 was stationed on the territory of the grodno region. inquiries were sent from grodno to several regions of ukraine and the baltic states. the first to reach lacoste , he lived in donetsk, he was arrested on april 1 , 1973. on the same day at 12:30. the first interrogation began, then he was transported to grodno , and four more were gradually brought here, accused before trial. they were in the grodno prison number one. today it is difficult to say by accident or

intentionally, but the case against the punishers of khatyn was opened on the thirtieth anniversary of the tragedy on march 21 1973, a native of the chernivtsi region of ukraine grigory lakusta worked in the dough, donetsk miner, he led the team of carpenters. a team of 35 people. he coached the management football team, which took first place in the local regional competitions for the children's football team. the lacusta had two daughters. nadezhda worked as a dispatcher for the city gas company in the city of dokuchaevsk, and lyudmila was a student at donetsk university. a young girl, dad, jumps up to our office. where were you during the war? and i still didn't know that you served with the nazis. he is silent. she shook her head, she turned alone from the table and to

the window and tried to rush down. the second took the jacket lived at home in the village of velikaya gorozhanka. lviv region worked on a collective farm. he had two children, a son and a daughter, four brothers, one of whom ivan was a security guard at the opera and ballet theater in lvov , two sisters should not be completing paperwork by the end, and he says, let him get up this steel. let it go to belozinsky lived in the lviv region. drying in kuibyshev, everyone was taken to grodno, the investigation continued until december 29, 73 years old. of the five accused, only lapusta was taken to khatyn, 73 years old, the memorial is already in operation, but for the duration of the investigative experiment, the complex was

closed on the site of the former village of lakusta . the rest of the employees of the 118th ukrainian police battalion, the last time when the defendant was here, he heard screams, the executioner of people and machine gun fire in the seventy-third year. every 30 seconds. the silence was broken by the sound the bells of lacusta did not utter a word to the plasinians. yes, the service of the 118 ukrainian police battalion were civilians or the case was considered by the grozny regional court, the verdicts were announced on march 15, 1974. the regional court sentenced. they were all shot, and then the supreme court replaced it, left it higher , probably, the punishment was only for the commander

, deputy commander of the wife of pushkin. 74, due to newly discovered circumstances , a criminal case was opened against meleshko, commander , platoon, 118 battalion. don't think that they it's so easy to tell. it all needs to be pulled out. this is the interrogation of such people, this is very. well, hard work. you see, when they have already begun to speak, there is no need to interrupt. even to say the criminal case 26.615 on the charges of the little one consists of 12 volumes, which is interesting for the witness in the case to pass attention from the story of the commander of the battalion smovsky to me. it is known that the policemen of our battalion participated in the execution and destruction of the citizens of the village of khatyn. i did not take part in this operation. and details. i do not know the company commander. vinnitsky said that in this massacre

, the darling lukovich lakusta especially distinguished themselves, why are they safe there? one sadistic act, these ruthlessness of sadism was expressed in the destruction of the civilian population of the doomed, driven into a barn and set on fire. and when people began to scream and tried to run out of the barn, they were shot from all types of weapons. military tribunal of the belarusian military district may 22, 19 72 vasily meleshko capital punishment by shooting sentence was carried out on december 22 seventy fifth year of the kiev region 11 years after the execution of mishka although back in the seventies they planned to bring him to justice, but on december 31, 74

production. pavlov was discontinued due to the circumstances. and in terms of toughness and sadism and dexterity in solving or a trick to avoid responsibility. here is a remarkable person, with such features. vasyora was first arrested in march 1952, sentenced to 25 years, but released under an amnesty in 1955 again, the criminal case against novoser was opened on march 27, 1986, 24 april 1986. that's what we detained him bronchial. and when we allow it, it has already been delivered more. yes, he asked the boys,

wait, let me catch my breath, but we stopped. they waited, then again the punisher was taken to grodno and kept in a pre-trial detention center on the territory of the prison. extremely reluctant. he testified to the last did not confess to the crimes. as for khatyn, he called it that way, he was immediately forced to name khotareevich there somewhere, in short, he even changed the name when he was pressed by other testimony. yes, i forgot that called the village. she was just so called the usual bring. in the morning, then they take him back for lunch and after lunch again he brought him for the first time, he says, i won’t go to lunch. why because if i dine? i'm suffocating, i can't speak. it means he brought with him two sweets caramel and two pieces of black bread smeared with something. well, maybe the margarine is something thin of its own,

well, we already made tea for him from the places of detention in belarus, dried chickens were delivered, as they arranged face-to-face meetings at the pilozinsky bets traveled to crime scenes. he was brought to want vasiru. the latter denied his participation in the destruction of khatyn, insisted that he was in lithuania, was looking for his family , recognized only some episodes. the interrogations did not stop. he was transferred to minsk to the kgb detention center. he was alone. food was prepared for him alone, he alone went for a walk. he could, uh, dare to say that the weather is bad today. i don't want to go for a walk today, 26613 on charges. grigory nikitovich. compiled 17 volumes as a result ended on

september 3, 1986. in general. uh said the words at the trial. yes it's me ha! ha was not so no, and he until the end of the main to him specifically proved by the witnesses of the action about the thirty indictment vasyura's sentence amounted to about 150 pages of the military tribunal of the belarusian military district, on december 26, eighty-sixth sentenced you to death. when you ura heard that capital punishment his reaction, what was it? on october 13, 1987, the head of the bureau of the civil registry office of brovarsky a notice was sent to the district executive committee of the kiev region. i ask you to register the death of the convicted vasyura. grigory nikitovich date of death october 2, 1987. the commander

of the battalion snovsky escaped punishment, lived in the united states, the ukrainian commander died a natural death. the first company, vinnitsky lived in canada , headed the ukrainian diaspora , was not prosecuted in canada, but another executioner and the 118th battalion, volodymyr kryuk, settled. he was a beekeeper, that is , he bred bees, than we lived a reclusive lifestyle, she did not like to talk about the past. although they denied, and their participation in the transition to the side. and in germany, participation in the 118th battalion, the katyuka case was initiated in september 1987. soviet union and later , independent belarus repeatedly sent requests to canada to no avail. the evidence base, according to which kutu from his

atrocities was enough, why did the canadian government make such decisions at that time, uh? well, probably we all understand, it was more of a political moment, although here the conversation is purely about a criminal offense of the same as the hand and all the rest were sent copies of documents confirming that the detachment really participated in various operations directly in person. but canada seems to have agreed to take part in the investigation, but some obstacles were created. the last executioner of khatyn, vladimir katyuk, died at home in canada in 2015. he was 93 years old during his lifetime, he did not answer for a crime for which there is no statute of limitations. some legal possibilities posthumously

to recognize them guilty of direct participation in punitive actions. in killings e peaceful civilians, so it will probably be our moral duty to all those who died to recognize them guilty and condemn them even 80 years after the tragic events , the criminal case against the trick of vladimir konstantinovich, a native of the chernivtsi region of ukraine, has not been completed, it has been suspended.

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understand and feel. she needs to be seen with her own eyes. hello, you are watching the program, say, do not be silent in the studio, victoria popova and tatyana shcherbina and at a party. today we have a philosopher publicist writer alexei dermant. according to alexey yes, it is quite with such definitions wrote a new book until we saw in

the process. it is about how to create a new union union 2.0 well belarus russia with the closest environment with the strange post-soviet space. and maybe not only on advice. the union looks like something new, adapted to the conditions of the 21st century. lately. you noticed and wrote about it in your telegram channel that our opponents. such uh philosophers of journalists, uh, and their opinions and assessments. actually, after the events of the twentieth year, they began to sound distinctly in both belarusian and russian e, information space. eh, the enemy has decided. so you write that the enemy decided, uh, to pay attention to ideology and meanings, although

they constantly said that our ideology is emasculated so do we still have an ideology? ideology should generally live in some kind of such a flexible plastic form, yes in a living form, that is, it's not just some taldy and there with all due respect. this is not the activity of officials, because ideas, when they embrace the masses, when they really, well, come from life. on one side on the other side. they have certain depth of theory. and when they reflect a certain reality, yes, because you can’t come up with a beautiful idea if it doesn’t fall on what we see around us, therefore, the belarusian state has a certain practice in the economy in politics in some valuable things. yes, and this practice is already being comprehended by political scientists and philosophers by journalists. and this is, in my

opinion, a living ideology. yes, maybe sometimes there is a lack of some kind of brightness, some kind of beyond goals. yes, but we're all fine we understand that no super-goal will work. if, again, it does not rely on the base, if people do not share all these things, then i will say that yes, we have an ideology. it somehow took shape even in recent times, but it is not registered in the talmuds. and this is the best thing in my opinion, so that it does not really become emasculated and does not turn into a house. date unfortunately , communism is in the soviet union, but nevertheless we say that officials are already catching it. vyut officials they carry out public policy, yes, that is, they do, and certain yes and statements. but that's not their main job. they are not required. there are great ideas or meanings. the main thing is that, in my opinion, the official. yes, to here, but to ensure the work

of the state apparatus, then yes to that. here on a certain basis for practice it is wound up. ah already more such deep, ideology. yes, and that's where we 're going. and why are we doing this, and who are we in this world and with whom are we in this world, this is already work, probably ours. yes, that is , to imagine such a broader picture of the world, well , first of all, and with the same shield and ordinary people, to see themselves in this world. who we are for what we are where we are and tell alexei that our opponents and enemies have paid attention to the opinion of, uh, the leaders of public opinion. uh, just 3 years after the 2020 event. uh, why did they wait so long, that they used to think that it was so shaking the air and no one would hear our crowbars, you understand, i carefully followed their assessments. they thought that the belarusian state, apart from the president, has nothing else, no ideas, no ideology, and therefore they thought that

it would be easy to overthrow the government. well no deep foundations, in general, in order for the power to be stable after the twentieth year. yes, our information policy has changed a little and the voices of the people here, yes, who produce ideas and meanings. they became louder and there they saw aga. so it is no coincidence that this is a reflection of certain processes. that is, it means that these people these ideas are connected with the stability of the state. and if this is so, then you need to understand what kind of ideas are there, what kind of people they are in order to try to attack the semantic core next time, and not just the state there. system security officials or a number of officials there. they see that it is not only these two subjects. there is some other superstructure on all this, it has begun to work together and shows efficiency, so something needs to be done about it, and they, as they studied

the soviet union for a long time, allocated huge money for the existence of the institute. now they have decided to pay attention to us, it turns out that you are forming our opponents in parallel. well, what if they had naive ideas that everything and the head of state is made up? well, that's pretty naive. on my point of view. now you have expanded them, so to speak, optics. yes , the head of state, of course, expresses the quintessence of what our society is brewing . in a different sense, of course, he expresses, well , let's say a broader thing, but here's what he paid attention to. indeed, when they began to study there such things that just break their picture of the world. so i noticed that there was one article dedicated to me. and they say here derman promotes the eurasian worldview there, sees belarus eurasia and denies that europe is the center of civilization. listen, well, here's a man. i just can’t imagine what’s going on in his head if for him only europe is the center of civilization, a flowering garden of barrels. well , actually, civilization is older than europe, it is

much older in china and india. secondly, they are now coming out on top. and thirdly. so, when you are infected there with some kind of eurocentrism or western centrism, and you don’t have any doubts at all. or maybe, well, somehow the picture of the world is different, because europe is also yes, why is it exceptional? why can't it consider? just like the western peninsula of eurasia yes, special. well, india has its own civilization there, the peninsula is also china , russia is average. well, europe is somewhere nearby, that is, it is one of, and not super. there's something exceptional and so i saw this for the case. yes, how is it? that is. uh, a blow, you can say, i dealt a picture of the world. yes , the worldview has broken so it cannot be , despite the fact that i do not deny it. yes, technological development is different and 500 years old, it was, but again, let's be honest. why did europe get ahead? here are the last 500 years. all

now this is already being questioned by yulia childhood. yes, because the age of colonialism began, and all the resources of the whole world, they pulled together and well, they lived at this expense. as a matter of fact, the robbery of india, china , america, africa, and our part of the continent also took place, and, well, no matter how it is customary to talk about it. this is what this barrel garden is based on. yes, where the roots go, it is accepted, of course, that this public plane is still not recognized. yes, if in america this theme is somehow expressed a little more. yes, what an idea there and then, what is it to capture? yes, france is in europe in general. in my opinion, they approached the discussion of these issues, that they continue to carry out this one. well, yes, let's see what is happening in africa, yes, that is, the rebellion against, uh, the french authorities in nigeria, yes, that is, specifically people. they say, we are against france siphoning off resources

for nothing. and france and britain, in many ways, after the forty-fifth year, when clanialism collapsed, they did an upgrade of their colonial system gently, yes, that is, we do not directly control, we do not send colonial troops, but we buy up the regimes, bribe their resources , send them cheaper to us and continue to live at their expense. formal independence was to donate. yes. yes, yes, the puppets are standing. naturally. and now, this colonial movement, which began in soviet times. and now, in general, it does not go anywhere, it has a basis, because at the basis of this they are not equal. not an equivalent exchange. when here you give resources, and you have some dachas, but in development you are still restrained. you can't jump out of this rut started, and you will not be able to do this without changing this colonial regime. well, it's a very interesting process. yes, what has now started everything in africa and i think it will continue. and i think your

european colleagues, the generation warned the most european officials about this. and that this is inevitable, but we are interested, of course, in what is happening in belarus. alexey, we are entering such a phase. yes , we are preparing for active election campaigns and there are two points of view on this matter, either everything will pass quietly, or much worse than in 1920. you which one do you keep? mm? i am rather the second one, because, knowing so colleagues from the other side, they act according to the template, if the color revolution took place, but in certain countries, but here this mechanism broke down. they will look for new ones. it worked for some time, they constantly used it everywhere, the so-called non-violent resistance. that is, you bring out a lot of people so that they psychologically or otherwise put pressure on the authorities, but the authorities, as it were, left, yes , more or less peacefully, but we see that hmm,

this mechanism has broken down on us. we have seen that in ukraine, they have already begun to use military methods. maidan execution there of this hundreds of heavenly so-called. that is, we see that some of their manuals do not work recipes. yes, they will look for new ones. what are these, judging by the situation in the world around us, i don’t want to scare anyone, but they will already bet on some kind of sessional actions of radicalization radicalization. hmm such manifestations extremists are terrorists. unfortunately, according to their logic, it would be logical, by the way. tykki with victims, yes victims with panic in order to scare people, they say, the authorities are not able to cope with these challenges. but we understand this very well, and we are also preparing for this plus. well, you need to understand that the main campaign is electoral, still presidential. they

will try to do something to train. here in the parliamentary elections in the elections. uh, local councils, um, but the main thing, of course, is the presidential election. well, in any case, it is important to understand that they will be looking for other methods that are not the same as before. well, from your point of view, it has already passed. here are 3 years. yes, on your opinion, what you observe psychologically, our people have become more stable. i think yes, for the most part, and even those who were then involved in these protests. well , those who live here, after all, well, there is some kind of enlightenment. this is good. on the other hand, a certain part appeared, well , which basically left, and there is already self-radicalization, that is, they are cut off from their homeland, this is a feeling of resentment and, well, such a restlessness. and then they are immediately taken into circulation. yes, if you are more or less worth something, you are involved in activities the opposition is either extremists or political

structures, information structures, but they are already sending them to fight against us. here are those who get emigration there - this is bad. yes, there they lose touch. well, it’s real with the motherland that they already have a different world in their heads , a world that was created by western propaganda or western curators who are trying to make them fanatics fanatics who must complete the task. and what task will sooner or later send everyone again to try to storm ours, and in one way or another, therefore here i would relatives. people, and maybe these people , who have a normal idea in their heads to still come back here, and here only antis can be, in my opinion, they can live in some kind of worthy world. well, i don’t know how to implement it in an impregnable way, because there they will even be forced to do something bad.

well, what do you think, when will we again be stormed by new ones at all will they recruit leaders or will they try, uh, to take advantage of those whom they are already feeding? well, i think this woman, of course, they will use it to the end for them as a political symbol, but all sorts of militant leaders have appeared there, who, by the way, do not respect her. they don’t listen to her orders, as she is convenient as this puppeteer because she herself doesn’t know anything , so they will tell her what they write to her, she is predictable and she is predictable, but she performs political tasks, contacts with the leaders of western countries knock out what - the means. well, the most dangerous thing is these militants. yes, and there are some public faces there, which, in principle, i think, they definitely don’t directly obey her there, but they can perform some vile tasks

that they can put either in ukraine or in poland somewhere. yes, that is, these groups, there thugs there are completely people who are financially dependent in any way and you can do anything with them. and go anywhere for any action. yes? before no less, no lines of red. unfortunately. you give advice. for those who decide to leave? where to run. you say not to lithuania or more, if you have already chosen europe it is better to go to the old part of germany france italy uh, why do you think? it's better, after all, it's still strange in any of the ones you listed. they will be people far from the first class. why do you even give advice ran? well, from time to time i have a discussion with different people. and i still went there, saw something, just, uh, poland lithuania - this is the cutting edge. yes, we can say that the line is such a front, and there they are simply looked at as cannon fodder in any capacity, whoever they are, because the governments themselves are tough, yes, and they

treat belarusians, but we see how there in lithuania is even already trying to expel. there are more of them that interfere there, which means that by their appearance in lithuania, the poles take them into circulation and begin to train them to narrow down and engage in, including some kind of extremist activity. no, well, there are people who left. and i. why did i give such advice just to fly in germany, france or italy, if here is a russian-speaking person, he can get there, he has a chance to get into a more or less normal environment. among those. sofa or italians, which will explain, my friend, that's all yours frenzied hatred of belarus or russia - this is complete nonsense. we generally have a normal attitude here, our government is completely controlled by the americans. here we do not share his goals. come on, better. that will be a normal person here, do not engage in nonsense. and maybe you will take root here, because

there are a lot of such sentiments in europe, especially in the west, especially there in italy, the french are dissatisfied with this macron line for arming ukraine , so maybe the local residents of this person who got there with some strange ideas, and in poland in the face. unfortunately, the opposite is true. he will come down even more. all this opinion is also written in social networks. eh, your colleagues, that in five, or maybe 10 years, belarus will be recognized as the most democratic country in europe, you support this idea, i am not promoting democracy. yes, that is, what is democracy, if we understand it, as a feeling and an opportunity to live according to our own laws and rules, as the majority in our country decided. yes, uphold your values ​​and not succumb to the pressure of some external forces it means that this is democracy, this is the power of the people, who decided and governs this way.