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are already reserved for the state flag of the republic of belarus . there are many economic processes, let's say, that are mutually beneficial. belarus shmat prostrate can be joked by throwing here is a ball in the lake for a non-random name the wok of god, in spite of the lake, it ripped off the wild one with its ripples, and they guess the wolf in maya lake is the correct form and the circle doesn’t change for a long time, i eat on the far side, that

the wok sews behind the right of people from heaven and shmat them such fire chandeliers in belarus throwing a blue chignezaire to the sky early, that in the rules of the racing forest in greaves, the eyes of the creatures take off. yes, the shrine is removed. the skies

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hello , you are watching the program, say, don’t be silent at the studio victoria popova and tatyana shcherbina and today our guest is the artist, honored worker of arts of belarus and also the beloved former director of the national art museum vladimir ivanovich prokoptsov. good afternoon. and also an anniversary. you had an anniversary on august 8th. a very beautiful figure of 70 years. congratulations to you, of course, in the first lines and we want to ask what kind of age it is. well, this is such an average age, especially for a creative person. i'll be honest, so here's this figure. although, she is very serious in the passport. i have something like this. i don’t feel it, but because perpetual motion was and remains all of this, so for me, of course, this is just such a date in my biography. i would say so, you look and you want to be equal to vladimir

ivanovich and nothing is scary. if i may, to have such a shape for 70 years, then still let 's live, we'll break through, as you say, and on the same day , your personal exhibition under the sign of infinity opened at the national art museum. let's listen. how did you imagine it. for me, this is to say so, uh, my philosophical expansions, like a master. that's what we mean, who we are belarusians. and, of course, i have leather bridges, a lot to show my dimming on the third stroke of life, so i and all our belarusian masters dashed to show with my tail, native belarusian nature. here is this piece our regions. well, the female buddha insanely carried her bochkovsky house, and the landing party bochkovsky, livelier. my mother moria andreevna is here,

so here, uh. this is not related to my main creativity by the kings of belarus, the exhibition will be located until the tenth version of the xv vera with her. she moves to the uvidevsky museum, and the back of her head to the gomel e-e v moskvevich, but we noticed that the central exhibit of your exhibition was a portrait of a dedication to your wife. vera pavlovna, prokoptsova worked on this parquet for a long time. i worked on this parquet. more than half a year. and i wrote it right in the office, or rather in the next office. here i have often used ethnic for the last two or three years. there is an easel and due to the fact that my work schedule was very busy, they even came on saturday and sunday. uh, some delegations are very important, but that's why i always tried to receive these delegations myself. and since having

a workshop even a creative day developed so much, that's why i used it. even after work , the employees left after 6 o'clock. and i went on for about hours until 10:00 to write. and this answer of faith is called full of earthly and heavenly souls. i wrote it in the museum in the office for about 7-8 months i wrote. e, and i described the staff, my museum artists came, some of them made comments to me for a long time, i suffered there, like the royal here. i really wanted one like we have at home, and then i decided a little bit different. everything changed there, that's why this process was observed even by the museum staff, they came. and they even suggested something to me, a cup of coffee. i had a complete poured, coffee is like that for me there. my friend, the artist vasya, said that it was wrong for the cup to have at least an outflow of coffee,

so i reduced the coffee, there for this cup, so i kind of took into account all the wishes of my colleagues. and of course, now i'm really behind the big picture. we are her personal exhibitions, as if such a dominant. here, she's moving somewhere. september university of culture there is made such a memorial corner of vera full, and there she works to remind our viewers. uh, over 40 years old culture is very much like so far. i read such reviews that her students cannot recover from the loss of love or her there at the university, and yours is nothing to say, yes, vladimir ivanovich , how much you have gone through together we have been for more than 40 years. and, of course, for us, too, for the family such a loss, but life, as it were, goes on, but i would like to leave such a memory to my spouses. as a husband, an artist, who took place and a book, that was written last year, was

published, dedicated to hmm, so to speak, verimpami you and your spouse. and as far as we know komsomol, uh, you are nostalgic for the ussr, it was a very good time, a time that made it possible to show and, of course, this is our acquaintance at the institute of folklore. when i studied there, at first it was there, she was also a graduate student studied. we were there, uh, working as junior employees. and, of course, the komsomol i think i gave a lot in general for education, and many of the same things have passed today and use this and all these developments and today's successors of the komsomol bcm, and even in terms of creativity. i speak in terms of the nature of patriotic education in including, it means building nearby. take these all-union construction projects novopolotsk, the city was built, in fact, by the komsomol

members there, but bam, the belarusians showed themselves in this way, and in a creative way, but komsomolsk is creative, these are our communications of creative unions that brought up young people. and then, of course, creative meetings. these were komsomol seminars for creative youth from creative youth, and today there are many creatively famous people. he take the vector shnip take our artists, who today are classics. they then started as such, uh, young, novice artists, therefore, i think that this is also very important and masters. here is even for times year man. here he came. eh, i remember these meetings. i was even delegated to him somehow, and he, by the way, told a lot of things there, the same ivan-greens maxim tank, and nilgelevich, uh, so many of our artists mikhail savitsky

, by the way, were brought up that there were rallies and now i’m just i remember the forms of communication in modern youth or team building there, all these gatherings. they also pass somewhere in nature with tents. that is, we want again unite not separate. yes, and moreover, to communicate, moreover, the seminars of creative young people, which were held under the pattern of the central committee of the komsomol and i was , uh, the first to start the culture of the komsomol church, so to speak, this also gave me a lot for my upbringing in terms of contacts. moreover, with the creative intelligentsia, but this form of creative youth rallies, these creative youth, which took place in different places in belarus, they united creative youth, and then the artists went to concerts as well as copyright copyright concepts of composers went to exhibitions. or the writers at the exhibition, that is, they were friends together. and this is the older generation, the generation that

they have inherited. this is what they became friends with, in fact, for the rest of their lives. and i like that there was still curiosity. thirst to learn and be the first, eh, barsey, so that somehow you need to return to this form, and firstly, but education. eh why? because did the masters pass on their experience? i remember in korolishevichi it meant the house of creativity of the white union of writers, and now we came with ivan gorillas than the first, and there from all over belarus came novice correspondents from the districts of newspapers. that's how victor means others. yes, danovich , who is today a professor, means oles in writing , yes, perchatkovites and they were told neither levich reborn, borodulin, how to write the tops, how were they under patronage, you understand?

today it is very important to eat and they do not go young, but in the performance, for example, of their colleagues, which is also always surprising for me. i don’t understand all the time why there are no directors or composers in the hall, can’t you it is interesting to watch the premiere to find out what modern dramatists think there or assets to help educate it in the right direction too. why because in part she is given to herself something in the workshops someone draws something there, right? well, actors are still such a profession. there is a collective director, so i think the uniform is necessary, and the former komsomol is to work. yes, inevitably sooner or later. i would like to return to your current exhibition, or rather i don’t know its name very precisely, did you come up with it yourself or who? firstly, we came up with the idea together with the museum staff so when we were preparing, we are very grateful to our girls who

worked on this exhibition as a curator on the screen, we show, in general, footage from the museum. and this is not from the exhibition, which was already headed by yes, 25 years in this regard, i wonder how many years you fought to ensure that we still have the museum quarter in minsk, belarus. well, you know , the foundation was laid as soon as we opened an extension to the museum in 2006, which we did for uh, uh, 6 years, and it was first hmm, it was laid at the foundation level and there was no funding for 7 years. and then i had to somehow show such intrigue and invite through one of my acquaintances. by the way, and the komsomols who worked along the komsomol line, and the komsomols. when friends stay, and he worked as deputy

head of the presidential administration, and through him he organized the visit of the head of state and alexander grigorievich then, firstly, decided to transfer the building to us, the neighboring appetizingly evicted the geo-service institute. that's when the idea of ​​the museum quarter was born. mm. uh, what's at 25 years. i came as the director of the museum. it was just crowded there was no place to even turn around. i can’t even imagine if this hadn’t happened, and every year now it’s more difficult to take these buildings. yes, here, uh, so thanks to the president's support. eh, it all started, and in the tenth year, when we still took, and the hostel of the belarusian state university at karl marx 24 alexandrovich visited the exhibition land under white wings. everyone was convinced of this idea that the museum quarter is needed, and it will be, and today, a year ago, we have already opened half museum quarter. this is the bsu dormitory on karl marx today it has become a modern

building. and there the infrastructure is not appropriate there and the kiosk. now there will be a museum in a cafe and there will be an exhibition four halls, a chic kiosk, but this is not a kiosk teller, yes to our viewers, but a wonderful store, very good books, literature on art have opened a resource center 14 modern workshops with a perfect building . so i think a colleague is the main restorer of the titik gallery, and a pigeon means, uh. he said it's like almost like we had the tretyakov gallery for the last time at an exhibition in your new hall, and how the paintings of russia played, which were buried gathering dust, let's say deteriorated. this work is for restoration in the hermitage, and the tretyakov gallery paid money to our

russian colleagues, but over the years we have brought up our restorers, we sent them for internships in the hermitage in the russian museums, the tretyakov gallery. we have experience at the level of even employees of restorers, they have their own contacts, their friends. and today the restoration center is more than that, we even we take works of art for restoration, what is called the salt of the people, any people who wish to possess the icons of babushkina talked. yes, they say appraisers are only in nhm, meaning more in the country. of course not, which is why today the national art museum is gaining momentum. indeed, this is a renaissance thanks to the support of the head of state. this is not just a museum. this is the main scientific and educational center. i would say so. everything is there, and, of course, the main thing is his mission. this is education. it is not only aesthetic patriotic, but also of course, when communicating with our treasures, including white. and in general , a chic exposure, they will be expanded.

that's why i say vladimir ivanovich under the sign of infinity - this is the most accurate name for your personal exhibition, because whatever happens, the quarter already has everything. and that after all there were some obstacles, there were obstacles , obstacles. e that helped here all these years to know. this is what i kind of inherited from elena vasilievna ladova. yes, i didn't know her. unfortunately, from mine predecessors to the director, who laid the foundation for mikhalav nikolay prokopevich, worked. unfortunately, 2 years before the war, by the way, the ninth to the forty-first year. if there had been no war, i think he would have worked for 20 years like ours. eh, so to speak the first passes. what is called the first is always more difficult after the war at 33, they worked on the signal of hell in 44, as soon as belarus was liberated from the german fascist invaders, she immediately arrived and began to form a museum already. here's first. there in the house that's the unions then, then, uh moved built a building from the fifty

-fourth to the fifty-seventh year, and here is the current building of the main building. so it would seem that minsk was still in ruins, housing was not for everyone. yes, and the government took care and built a museum. and of course, here, yes, and what a museum, then a collection of russian art gathered wonderful belarusian art. and when i came, i'll tell you , uh, i said it many times when i was offered, when irina alexandrovich karachun left, i was afraid of these museum directors. although i was 44 years old. i worked for the marriage council ministers is such a nomenklatura position in the rank of deputy minister, he said so, if it's time for us to judge, i took it and come to the museum, although i'm a hare with culture sosnovskiy, vladimir vasilyevich and the deputy minister is mikhail you are a member because of the artists candidates. you have, so to speak, work experience. what are you afraid of? go, well, but i doubted, because i had not worked in the museum for a single day, i was afraid

of responsibility. well, when the chief custodian nikolay mikhailovich bagranovsky called me, he said, we are self-nominated to the museum for the director's post, we would like you to be the director earlier, but this inspired me with wings. that there might be a dozen people behind me, that they put themselves in the director's chair. yes, and i came and, of course , these authorities that she looked at me from above, mikhaladova, karachu, they pledged. i couldn't let you down, so i took the first job even for 5 years without holidays, let me go i sat in the office. and, of course, i had to move the museum to move the museum. and with these we will speak, uh, non-standard solutions at the level at the level i will tell you the risk very big and then, uh, you invite either alexandrovich in 999. for the first time in the tenth year with these buildings. well, the risk is connected with the fact that i will explain to our viewers that you had to without prior agreements. if you just

take a step towards the president and make this word with the first one yourself, there was a big conversation. here in the nineteenth year, but with the head of the state. i was invited to this big talk. i asked there, to be honest , journalists, for which the head of state was asked questions only about economics and politics. i say ask a question alexander ivanovich has built a new theater and ballet , reconstructed yanka kupala you know the question. by quarter by quarter, why is it taking a long time to build alexandrovich he will see me and lift me up. i 'll tell him. so they say no. here he says, you yourself will become and ask i say. well, how can i tell the president that this is bad, yes, but then it just turned out very well, somewhere towards the end of the meeting aleksandrovich walked through the culture. something we don’t have for a long time normal films, where in august forty-fourth is such

a film where we have a sniper why do we have a long a quarter is being built, but i wanted to say something else, and the microphone lay for me , i got up and said that aleksandrovich is in such a situation that for 4 years in a row they give only one and a half million rubles and the head of state ordered that you know the money and immediately give 10 million, that is, five million dollars. yes, and then everything went right away. and today we are open. first fourth line. so, here are the exhibition halls and the resource center, there is the library, there are the depositories. and if i hadn’t got up, then even now, probably, nothing would have happened and undoubtedly. i think it was a risk. and of course, i think that many officials who sat in the hall and outside the hall, to be honest, probably did not like it. tell me, were you ready for the fact that you will be replaced by a young ambitious artist in june anna no, i was not ready, to be honest, i learned about it literally 2 days before

the performance. i didn't even know who it was. who will be my consistent so, therefore , if such a choice was made and there is a desire to move the museum further, and i, in my word , mean, when the minister presented, uh, it means anna vladimirovna, so i granted her success, but also moving forward in the museum. why because the museum is such an institution that can not, so stop by its parent, the more it has already been asked. temp means done no. you know there wasn't much of a blow. well, i'll say, so just uh, sooner or later 25 years. this is a long time. i didn’t do a lot of things for myself , i didn’t defend books, i didn’t write, but only as babies, these little books. well, a few rudders broke through. well, then,

to be honest, and after the departure of vera complete and health, a little start. something like that, so i have risen to this point philosophically, especially since hmm i have one life. if there were five of them, then he gave one to the museum, the second one was looking for paintings there, so the soldier's. in general, we accepted it all with dignity. and i hope that here we are, hmm, we are these four directors, who, with my oldest colleagues, who laid the foundation there, each laid the foundation of the museum. come on helena arsenal yes post-war medical he is. therefore , god forbid that the museum develops further, but not god forbid, did not stay. in its development in various areas of exhibition projects. we had crazy projects that you came to the museum every weekday and even

the weekend, there was some kind of office left there, no , i'm leaving. i didn't stay and no adviser. it’s true that the employees handed me at the farewell, so to speak, uh collection of certificates the scientific secret of the honorary director general of the national art museum. so, since he worked for such a long time, but there are no offices there, wow. here are none these same no no, there are no cabinets. moreover, you know, now the museum is growing and progressing beautifully. and, of course, offices are needed. i'll tell you this for various forms of museum work, so i'm hmm, so to speak, a person, i don't relate to him in this regard. uh, and not for branding himself commensurate with elena by the senate. for me, this is such an authority

, but with my speech, oh, by the way, i installed busts for all the directors of the directors for sponsorship money and mihallap, elena alla come on and yulia alexandrovich kruchunov. yes your followers of something from this will take some experience. in the meantime, we will interrupt for a while, i remind you, we have a telegram channel. say don't be silent. subscribe ask questions and suggest guests. we are in touch and today our guest is an artist, honored artist, former general director of the national art museum. vladimir prokoptsov is no longer a director, so we can drop the conventions and tell us how you created the current collection in nhm. in particular. i remember how you are off the air

they said that they found a work of art. in some abandoned buildings in sanatoriums. so i once went to the logoisk district, vologoisk, and there i found it in a village club. so two portraits. they were damaged. naturally, when that is, uh, in the seventies. i even found a document that many paintings from the collection of the national art museum were distributed to the cultural institutions of the region. and i returned then somewhere to order and work from above. here are our restorers of this steel somewhere in the order of eight works. i found then. we returned to sanatorium, when i was here after an illness, so i also look, there are two works, so, uh, and i went to the head doctor, we agreed, and they he gave us these works of our contemporary belarusian artists went bankrupt. plant minsk e, porcelain

factory. here, and there is a chic collection of belarusian porcelain, and with such well-known names as ours. and so, through my acquaintance, i contacted the director through the artist. it was some friend of his there, and we took more than 1,000 pieces of porcelain to the collection of the art museum, and in the basement in garbage found a large mihalap vase. this is the first director who was congratulated by comrade stalin on the occasion of his seventieth birthday. it is now on permanent display and has been washed away. and why didn't she go to the birthday boy , by the way, to moscow cream, because there is a defect on the lid, and today it adorns our permanent exhibition when the bank was spinning hmm borisov crystal factory. and we are not derzhinsky. we, too, so i made an effort to ensure that there are the best exhibits of

crystal glass, these are about 900 copies. we also got free. here is recently handed over to us in the end. even though they asked for big money. for us to pay the works of confession have worked so far. yes, it means a good sponsor, who in switzerland gave us a small collection of artists of the paris school, and we have a small collection of artists of the paris school, and there are other artists, therefore, of course, every director of each director, and he tried to grow with works. well, of course, and squares, so i believe that for these 25 years. we have taken the issue very seriously and steam collection to expand it. that’s how it means, e development of the material and technical base as a whole, therefore, but this is the most important thing, i think the director’s mission is not to sit still belarusians, as a rule, are modest people

never make a fuss when they even know that they have they took something illegally, stole something. but besides this swiss case, you know, we also have this topic of return. we are also engaged in many pre-war things that left, they returned, but this is only a small part today, so this edition is being prepared with us, but unfortunately, many works have not been digitized and photographed. yes, here, they are only later or for hay lada, according to some recollections, and he, yes, yes, therefore, what is with the numbers. uh, the minsk art gallery, of course, returns. well, gifts yes , the swiss, in my opinion, philanthropist mentioned this. yes, yes, it seems to me, and yes, and many things, yes, and including our contemporary belarusian artists. i mean from the decorative arts. well, then we try, when we

make exhibitions in the museum, copyright exhibitions, then the artist donates the work chosen by the employees of our museum, from his exhibition we buy one work through the ministry of culture, therefore we also try to replenish our funds, modern ones have not been of help to you all this time. here, well, i mean, there are avant-garde artists there. we have large collections, there are private ones. well, you know collectors. unfortunately, belarusian means, well, let's say, there we are, and the russian collector alone presented the work of byalynitsky. bulya so when we did the exhibition, but the belarusian collectors. to unfortunately, they haven't realized yet. that's the importance. yes, yes, so that, well , everyone can collect some things for themselves, and from them they have a complete collection of artists. yes? well, for some reason they do not share, especially since the main thing is that what is in a pleasant collection. this is one thing when it is in the collection of the national art museum

of the main museum of the country from the other and the status and status. well, probably wake up our collectors. still, it's fashionable. yes, here we tried ourselves from different sides to come in and try to make exhibitions even with the collection here. well, i think maybe it's still like this in our country. hmm, somehow this whole process is going slower than it happens in other countries. but i think that when they see, probably, the museum quarter is completely completed. so i saw these chic halls. today, of course, we do not have enough e and constantly exposition of arts and crafts . we have a chic collection of abundance. nafta is both modern belarusian and also an exhibition of permanent porcelain glass. i i think that our collector will now hear from me. here is an example you will be given by such vladyka filaret when he somehow came to him to congratulate him on his birthday. i always

went to see him on the twenty-first of march. ah, he had large crystal vases. that's how i'm in vladyka's mouth, it would be necessary to somehow donate to the museum. this is a museum value, especially since large vases are no longer made in crystal. take it from him earlier, then he gave his straw miter, which is now on permanent display. by the way, like vases. and why did i ask her for the metro, so we have the royal gates, there is a collection of ancient belarusian art and the exposition is constantly there there are gates, and the carved ones, so to speak, are presented in the exposition. there is a salt cellar gate, which is located at the branch of the sarapul museum. and so we already planned, when the museum catalog is completed , the exposition will be the royal gates of the 18th century. yes, vladyka philaret's emitter on the sea, where vladyka of the 20th century served. moreover, we found even the author of this meter salty. we have it in the rest of the position, so

here is an example, take the sadyka filarety, which he presented to the museum with a work that belonged to him. yes, as they say, a landmark city. it can be said at one time that you graduated from the vitebsk art graph, from where the biography of many others actually began. other artists today. among them is the elisitz mark yes. then kazimir malevich scattered suprematist confetti around the city, but in your work you did not pick up the revolutionary idea of ​​the promoters of the new art. you have your own philosophy, your idols. well, you know repeat your own. eh, it means that somehow there are no idols very good. you have to find your way in art. yes, you really see, for me it is called belarusian paris; for me, the city of my student youth is this one really couple only there aura is a walker. malevich flies the city is really

saturated with this art, even today it is felt. i'm happy that that's where i studied and of course, of course, er. well, i found my way. as every artist is looking for his own way in art. here. well, and that's what concerns here, and even ties with vitebsk i have one work in vitebsk moroi about paris vitebsk dreams. show her. yes , when we were students, we dreamed of becoming famous as marshal, that's all there , this idea is crazy. well, you didn't reject. yes, these artists are not sick, and i think that they had a great influence on world art in general, but, of course , we should have our own style with these authors in our belarusian, of course, this is the same. uh, that’s what ’s beautiful about mixed herbs in a meadow, when there are many different flowers and we have a small collection, and the parisian artists schools in vitebsk only walked in the museum, if

the graphic canvases of the brand walked. yes, but there is not a single work of painting, and there the aura is saturated. in these twenties, you always feel embarrassed. no, you're going to the chagall museum. i will say, if there was a full-fledged one here, there was an idea, so, er, lenin , here is our famous architect, to make such a metochion here. pokrovka is there, yes in recreating this old jewish quarter like this, and imagine that if today there were this quarter, it was like this, but it was a picturesque collection artists of the paris school, including the pacing and essence. she is there, yes, even though he is here from near minsk. yes, it doesn’t matter, i would say that people would come there, even from france, e. uh, so viewers visit or so because, vitebsk today, but it is akin to paris, and even more so, considering. by the way, these are local

features. here they would have made such a jewish cuisine infrastructure there. yes yes absolutely right. and today is not enough. you see, pskov well, vitebsk, uh, so to speak, the city certainly has a rich history. i even in my time, when 2 years old back i was awarded an honorary. anya is a professor at vitebsk university and the leadership of the city of vitebsk was present there . by the way, she is also a graduate of vitebsk university. i said it is necessary to revive vitebsk somehow. return the inkwell. vitebsk was there in its time, the facade of the building was painted inky, but at one time the tank, when it starts yes, yes, yes, the inkwell among the people, and you know, they returned the inkwell like this, yes, but it would be necessary to return this one, expand it here, e, vitebsk to return

to the twentieth saturating. there are swamp expositions works, of course, first of all, therefore, i think it is very important that these works be there exactly, and then tourists will also be drawn there. i think that ours are all ours, which means that the belarusians who live there in israel, for example, yes, would have flown in with their families on airplane crews, it was possible to have an airport with me there. yes, the work of a beloved crew could just reconstruct the picture of the plot with the icon of the crew. well, that is , children in general easter yes, not only one, the slavic bazaar should be present annually there in vitebsk, but also, uh, of course, in first of all, but about the fact that this is a city of chagalls. uh, another question that was asked by artists 100 years ago, the same representatives of many, for example, do the party of art need a party, like a political one? i don't think it's necessary. and here's the creative team. yes, look at the artists, and in

the xix early xx they united according to their interests. now i'll say it. well, we have the creative union of artists, the 19th creative confederation, which united nikolai nikolayevich eremenko, our well-known figures, people's artist, a wonderful person in difficult times. the times when it was called a union retained creative unions, made a confederation of creative unions. and today , uh, two cadences. you headed the confederation for 10 years. and of course, each creative union does a lot of things in its work. you just need to put them together somehow. and the mission of the confederation's mission is just such a main task, therefore , there must certainly be some kind of unifying union, and so, well, it does not forbid anyone. e any member of the creative convocation to be a member of a particular party. but you know also, what is important here is vladimir ivanovich's authority, because the same eremenko

, like you, was not afraid of illness, of a knife. he came at the head of the state, so he is also on the verge. you know, well, i know him very well and, uh, we knew him well. and somehow we even seem to be somehow in this zeal, not sparing ourselves. he, too, was devoted to the inferior man of art. he did not spare himself his health and so on, so i treat this with great reverence and so on. i was given such an honorable mission to lead confederation. i am very pleased, and we even celebrated his anniversary, we issued an envelope with a stamp, and so on, so there must certainly be a unifying moment today, including for the eastvol intelligentsia. you need to talk to her, you need to communicate with her, and to meet so you know her problems. so why, because this part of our society and there is no getting away from it, yes, they are ambitious creative people, including myself

. if it were not ambitious, i also had to do this quarter. i will tell you i like. i will honestly tell you that i did not have an ideal relationship with any minister of culture. why because not because i didn't respect them there? no, by my actions somewhere, maybe even provoked some things for the museum. and yes, we call all the time, you need something as much as possible, therefore, therefore, creative intelligentsia. you have to work with her all the time. all the more so today, this especially acquires, and of particular importance. moreover, i was the initiator of even meetings. uh, in 2003, in my opinion, it was last meeting of the head of state. 20 years have passed since the creative intelligentsia. a lot of questions have accumulated, you understand, and on the one hand and on the other hand , questions and these questions have accumulated. we need to somehow voice

them to solve. do you now see such a figure equal to you, equal to nikolai eremenko , such a leader who was ready to take the creative intelligentsia with him and not be afraid to risk asking uncomfortable questions. well, i, as it were, do not exclude myself from the creative intelligentsia either. i remained her honorary chairman of the polish confidation unions, and i have good relations with our russian colleagues, by the way, directors of russian museums call me, so, of course, we need to work in this regard. moreover, we will be presented with such events ahead . uh, so, that's why we need to unite people. uh, under some general actions under some general ones, so you understand the projects, the same exhibitions, the same some forums. that's creative, and it could have been done. and with young young creative intelligentsia and meter in our invite. but, in general, the country needs to work, uh, everyone, everyone, work

in their place. why? because in order for us to somehow save our country, so that it means moving forward, it must work, not only the grain grower today would be on arable land, when choosing a crop or at machine tool factories, well , everyone should work in their places on their faithfully honestly. so, i also tried to work as a director, but also unconditionally. your intelligentsia should contribute to the development of the country. moreover, we are rich, look at talents. which is to bring our masters schemilov kishchenko vashchenko savitsky what masters? yes, today he is a depleted century, what puppies of alexander mikhailovich no one can make such a jubilee was, and we did it and it is necessary. for example , it is interesting to raise these young people, we have young people, but i say the problem is that no one sees them. and no one hears. unfortunately, no one meets him. and you need to talk to them. do you understand? they have questions to answer. we hope

to hear from you. and we'll take a break for now. uh, after that we'll go back to this studio again, bye subscribe to our telegram channel. say, do not be silent, look for all our releases on the youtube channel belarus 1. on the air say again, do not be silent, and vladimir prokoptsov is our guest. you like to repeat vladimir ivanovich that your hairstyle, famous for the whole e, the city of minsk, was inherited from your mother maria andreevna and i saw unique shots to prepare for this program. let's see them, and mom and tattoo. here, my mother, i had such a hairstyle. eh, so i got everything to sleep everything from my mother. and, of course, my tatyki makes me look so strict flame, and we are ready to kiss the pitches on the selection, lifted the cow, gave the lord the arch

of fucking spring. we ourselves there and a garden, uh, and went to the forest, and so on, so i left a tough lad, well, here is the bread of the people's land and here. for some, on nostalgia, a cap like this is in their cottage cheese, or maybe, spinning in that period, e of their diatynstvo is not some such fantasy. i have pictures like this in the summer, a little steel in the garden of barrels. walk and hands. endure the same she and glory. god now lived. here is my recently traveled her 97th birthday was celebrated by her sons with anton and pal. well, thank god, thanks to my mother, i

took a lot of things from her in the plan. here are the two sisters. those places that youth passed there. it is very difficult for older people to part with them, they walked barefoot. here, i tell my mother, mother. you at least dress difficult here. she is there just a little grass - this is the most green of my months for a little and walks barefoot. it is powered by the earth, you know, and my colleague is a vasyuk. volodya says don't touch her. why because, on the contrary, these are native places, they fat these people, it's like bitches, so, of course, and we always come back. here is my native nest. here with the age of us youth.

we seem to be trying to fly out of the nests there to assert ourselves, somewhere by old age. we are returning. here it is on the table, which is also present in my works. let's get a look. yes, this is the work that i did in the third year. this was the production we were given, it was a dedicated work. my father is happy. so our cemetery is opposite belnitsky. yes such an imperialistic morning morning, and he also beat this. nevsky bureau. i was there on chaika very often came. eh, artists painted from nature with a harupa, where not only etanovich lived. this is also in picture f. a little bit of fanta fantasy is also our cemetery a little bit different. i made it. here, uh, it means that mom is leading me, as it were, or there my grandmother is leading me to carols at the temple for service. we don't have a temple there. this is called a picture of a presentation, which means that the present is not

certain once, which means that they burned down the satanists, set fire to the zaslavl church, and i when there was his lord philaret, he had such cards with these, and with this roof so burned, funds were collected. here i am , somehow, and at that time, so i created such a picture, i was so impressed by this one. this is the thing that the present is not certain, and this is called the origins, the origins of the big river begin. where does the origins of our statehood of our culture begin from a small stream. here is an architectural monument that is being restored, so here i am, i have a sketch. there, however, i am with a malbette on my shoulders. and behind me sketchbook. or rather, well, then i removed and here is such a philosophical reflection on our history , our culture, and in general about our belarus. that's exactly what it's called. in the end. what period in painting are you

going through now? oh well, period, i'll tell you. now i'm already a little bit. i have a different, already becoming more free manner. now the time and opportunity has just appeared to devote more to art criticism of painting. now i need to write a book about nikolai kazakevich , the gomel artist of my fellow countryman. that's all whistle-blowers. and, of course, i'm thinking of writing a book about my fate in the museum. well , please, without a cut it is very interesting vladimir ivanovich obeys all this. i will keep this book worthy. i'm sure the order went to my colleagues. so i'll try not to forget anything. write everything down for your birthday by august 8th. looking forward to this book. i also wanted to show one of your paintings of young may, i really like it. why because it's a fantasy picture to me, so it's a natural house. it's just a newbie. you see, there is a lampshade on the veranda. here's to he came like a muse to an artist. they were sitting,

you see the glasses are standing. there , morning came on the edge, the artist, tired asleep, tired and sperm with the rays of the sun, the muse leaves the master’s workshop, which means that the artist’s day will pass, he will gain strength. so he wakes up from e, when it is already evening , the moon will set for him for five, another question will come to the master, the most important achievement. we believe that you have returned visitors. we remember the time when there were no people at all, and now , during the night, museums of the same action during opening of interesting exhibitions. there is a real movement of space for inspiration and creativity and young people for children even yes. we even made thursday a little bit like this. uh, this thing works at the museum until 21 o'clock, so that people who can't weekends can come on weekdays. it's more of

a celebration of the soul. that's what so many lives there and so many pleasant employees there today, indeed. here we felt that this renaissance is called and everyone tries to do it. working in the museum, their work is of very high quality. yes high professional. yes, i believe that today the museum is developing, thanks to the support of the leadership of our country, as a whole. ah, museum work. a new museum grows every year. this is very important in terms of education, and the aesthetic test of patriotic education is a museum like no other institution. she is on her most important mission. i do not beg the role there, so to speak, but of other cultural institutions, but the museum business. i think this is the most important and right thing that the state does not spare this means. and here is the development our museum quarter. we vladimir ivanovich is grateful. once again, your selfless work, of course, we wish

you to find inspiration. in your incarnation, i am sure that you will not sit at home and be sad, but lived, yes, because looking back at the past is not in your style and you only look forward, and we are reaching for you because you are the highest example, as in figuratively and in the truest sense of the word. thank you for today's meeting tatyana shcherbina victoria popova we say goodbye to you today. goodbye. goodbye. and now says vladimir prokoptsov. i would like to wish everyone good health and prosperity.

and, of course, success , uh, in the work for the good of native belarus what secrets are hidden by the greatest shrines of christianity, all the shrines on the territory of the grand duke, when on the territory of sujas and so belarus itself what were the name of st. michael the archangel all this such. well, i don't think that in spiritual terms it can be a coincidence on the character and destiny of a person. that is why the bible calls to be joyful sometimes earthly joy, it is so sometimes it passes very quickly, and the joy that a person receives from communion with god in the church, then this is joy, well, somehow it turns out that fills his

life every day. why do they ring bells? it is known that the bells yes, it was the form of the bells that came to us more western, as it were, traditions from the catholic one, that in the orthodox, as it were, the performance was called, from which plates were also beaten from the same departure materials, but they were beaten by answers to these and others questions in spiritual and educational projects on belarus 24 tv channel. the heroes of this project oh you alas for them, these are people with a lot of ideas and creative thoughts. i am a very person of this kind and mobile in terms of, uh, some of my own inventions. for me it's interesting. and so my first production began of a fireplace for our individual. well, what kind of bricks do you need to work well or not take on this work, so we usually have a well-organized,

thuja-like, what else can not help dreaming of making the largest icon in the world. this is primarily the zhirovichi cone, but which would glorify our blue beloved belarus. it can develop indefinitely, therefore, if you do not take the material component who is it? you get the same energy from it, even in the morning just drink coffee with a fresh croissant , look out the window at the river at the lake. and it’s cool to see the project belarusians on our tv channel. walls of belorussia with shmatvek history we can be younger than orthodox architecture near this period. now round less often faithful characteristically they floated away on formation economic centers of ukraine and live all the wonderful people. some place glasses cities were significant young. eh, outbursts. the ring race takes place almost

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