many years. i think that polissya will exist and, probably, be reborn, and life will be life without a key here. this is a rich area here. i think it will breathe easily and freely.

good evening hello i am glad to welcome you. mutually, vladimir kornilov is a person known to our viewers more and more from russian programs. yes solovyov time will show 60 minutes and so on, where you can hear what you think, but not why do you think this is how our timing allows you to talk normally and find out both the first and second. here, let's start with

deficit. come on vladimir kornilov is a russian and ukrainian political scientist. well, at least that's what wikipedia says yes. before , both adjectives were comfortable. yes, but which one is closer now and why? well, uh, this is russian wikipedia quoting unconditionally ukrainian wikipedia specifically looked the other day that vladimir kornilov is a russian political scientist known for his ukraine fops statements. that is, as you understand the different interpretations, the most offensive thing was in general, when i was still a citizen of ukraine yes, exclusively. danin of ukraine russian wikipedia indicated the ukrainian political scientist, and the ukrainian one indicated the russian political scientist, that is, respectively, both of them did not consider their own. but uh, you know, even being, living in ukraine, being a citizen, again , exclusively of ukraine, i asked me to indicate in general in my book in my yes, the creators of the war were the whole to indicate me.

yes, no, political scientist. no, historian, historian, donbass and so on. that is, even then i did not associate myself with that state precisely as a state and, accordingly, all my life his consciously. in general, i fought for my homeland of donbass to return to my homeland of russia. so, that is, it was before the fourteenth year. it was, in fact, from the period when e became. it is clear that the branch will fall apart, the union will be since then. i’m afraid for this, i’m in 1989. in the year under the soviet union, already seeing, uh, the danger of where it all leads. together with my brother , we created an interview of donbass. colonels, what was her name? well, that is, i was a member of its central council, mind you, 89 years old, still quite young. i was then eh, but

nevertheless i already understood then that it would be a great tragedy. and you know, when my brother and i in 1991, under a referendum on december 1, 1991, and in ukraine , which took place about independence , published leaflets in the underground calling for voting against the only independence. by the way, who could do this in ukraine , such a free democratic referendum was. so we pointed out there, yes, why will result in ukraine's withdrawal from the composition well, separation from russia yes, it threatens economic collapse - it is a granite impoverishment of the people. it threatens. uh, the arrival of the nationalism of the renaissance of bandera and at the end there was a civil war. even our allies reproached us then. well, why are you so exaggerated? yes? well, what kind of war, maybe, well, that's all, unfortunately, in the end , all our forecasts and

warnings came true. 2014, crimea is returning to the south. and why then those, well, indeed, the regions inhabited by the russian population are different area, at that moment did not follow the example, why did not this happen? basically? well, how? well, in the donbass, there were attempts in the donbass - this happened, that is, the donbass, with arms in hand, defended this right. moreover, they also held a referendum and many have forgotten it, but i want to remind you immediately after the referendum, which took place in the donbass e. uh, the then head of the people's council of the donetsk people's republic, mr. pushilin , immediately the next day after the referendum , officially addressed moscow with a call to accept into the russian federation, but also odessa was kharkov kherson, we know how it was suppressed. do you remember, yes, there were power crackdowns in kharkov. after all, in principle,

the ukrainian nazis did not hide their plan then. first, they suppressed the anti-maidan in kiev, put everyone on the floor there. uh, then it means they had it planned that way, then they need kharkov, then they need to clean up odessa , then donbass, then crimea, that is, they simply intimidated, that is. well, not that they were intimidated somewhere, they just killed. you have started your career. uh-huh i aha i really like it i liked it because it fit. i , too, once did this from work as a turner, yes, well, at first there was a car mechanic then probably every turner is a car mechanic, yes, a little political scientist is sure of this, but not every current political scientist. yes, that's how life really led from a working absolutely working specialty, where first of all you work with your hands. to head work. well , what i agree with, any turner, of course , a philosopher, at least this is one, but everyone understands being a turner without philosophy,

it is simply impossible. here, but in general, uh, well, how am i finished school. i'm like you, and artyom sheinin told me. yes, he began by studying the history of diplomacy. yes, i read everything that could be the history of diplomacy, world history. eh, that's why everything related to politics from childhood i outlined what , by the way, the bbc and the voices of america silence my voices and so on. yes, i found it somewhere. yes, well, how, well, just listened, there and so on. that knew in the childhood of all e presidents of the capital e prime minister, where which party wins? where which one has been losing from school childhood, i say it again, well, not was then the specialty of political science. in our universities. by the way, i had my doubts. where should i go was a large selection of different ones, by the way, a military school, i thought about going and as

i remember now, when we were writing an essay there in the tenth grade. who will become who yes, and one of my classmates, even as i remember now, wrote that here is vladimir kornilov. i heard that a military school was going, but i was going to a specific military school. uh, here, uh, in krasnodar, which trained cryptographers, at least, at least a cryptographer. so he says, well, i don't i represent him in military uniform, they say he will be a political observer. here somewhere on television and so on. imagine, yes, this my classmate wrote, but i didn’t know where, uh, i decided everything in the army then they went all urgently the service was mandatory. so i’m going to the army and then we’ll decide, respectively, there is a small gap between the school and the army, i went to a specialty, which, by the way, is out of school in this, as it was called there, we have an increase. ah, professionalism. upc for sure

courses. i went to the same place where i did this practice, respectively , i worked for several months, and after the army, yes, there was no longer any doubt. i went to the faculty of history to study and was immediately actively involved in social and political life. actually further. i already told you. in fact, an excellent historical education, but now in my opinion. one of the most requested. yes, it helps a lot, it's great that it's really for you to understand. uh, modernity must necessarily understand the past to read his. e and, accordingly, the mistakes of the past to learn, so as to avoid the mistakes of the future what? unfortunately, we, i mean, all of us collectively often do not know how. well, you were born in lipetsk. also connected with the donbass. i was born in the city of lipetsk was not. there since 6 years. all i dream of is to go, at least remember something. but yes, that's it, i'm in the seventh generation of donetsk,

that is, all my ancestors. here the don donetsk basin was born. and? here is the most interesting both parents. yes, they are from the donetsk steppes, but in the rostov region on the territory rsfsr were born. here, uh, my older brother was born in donetsk let's say my parent graduated from the stalinist pedagogical institute. donetsk, respectively, so they returned, as if they brought me a little one to their native land, yes, from the first class. i went to a donetsk school, but my history education did not prevent my colleague from becoming at the age of 28, and the director of the trk ukraine is again in donetsk . yes, i'm not all that the rk of ukraine was the director of a creative association inside. yes, i created it. the point here is what became the trk of ukraine one of the most successful television projects in ukraine e, but, of course, i started

much earlier, that is, my first article. i wrote in 1989. this is how much i was 21 and the subject e ks was called that how does rukh begin and accordingly i immediately pointed out the danger, e, the collapse of the country, the danger of national ideology, nationalism, and all my life, from the age of 21, this was the choice. i have created a program of choice. by the way, very much in favor of elections. i mean, i was already doing it. not only that, i even became local deputies in my youth some authorities. and i also understood what to be, uh, a deputy. it's much more boring than doing deputies. here is create. yes, yes , alexander took up more pre-election technologies for studying implementation in practice. well, to the fact that e, the program of choice i created is very curious, then the program look was in vogue, if you remember, yes, uh, everyone there look everyone everyone quoted her. i thought about

creating a similar regional format and went to the first independent television in ukraine , as i remember now. she had a license number one in general throughout ukraine donetsk is such a 7x7 channel and, uh, with this idea. well, they say there, well, it's so not interesting right away, then we'll work on the news for now. ok then. i went with this project from donetsk , who was then practically unknown to anyone . well, he was quite influential then in donetsk, and now, probably, everyone already knows the name of nikolai yanchararov. well, we certainly talked. well then i say, he was unknown to anyone yet. affairs of donetsk here. i went to him with this project, knowing that it influences this channel i speak. here you will have an election. eh,

correspondence helps, then the channel director calls me, gives me my own paper written by me , says, look, here nikolay yang is something like this. well, something raw. and you just wanted something like that, and i take this one and criticize you for something not well, here, of course, something completely nonsense is written and so on. these are the ones who began to make a choice program, which then really became a breakthrough, the most popular in the donbass and, uh, played a lot, determining, well, a significant role, so to speak, let's say, in changing the political agenda there in the donbass. we even organized a referendum in 1994. and then donbass, thanks to this program, held a referendum in both donetsk and luhansk. by the way, where more than 90 percent. the population of the legal referendum on its decision was the soviets , that is, absolutely legally, where more than 90 percent voted for the official status of the russian language for the federal structure of ukraine for

the self-government of donbass if then these same donbass would have listened officials in kiev, you see, we didn’t bring all this to these terrible sad bloody ones. yes, but that's the point. and vladimir , here is the irony of fate, but we also had a program on the ont tv channel, choice in the tenth year. she ceased to exist. yes, because our talk show hosts. yes, he made a different choice and left, just to ukraine, then commenting repeatedly. as far as freedom of speech is more developed there than in our totalitarian or as a republic. that's what then you could have a debate. that's in those years you know that's when i was then in er in the first half of the nineties business. there was practically no censorship. well, there were very strong indignations of the nazis against the nationalists. they demanded to close.

eh, of course, for a very long time, they stubbornly came to rallies from lvov, stopped in at night, and so on, but in general, to say that someone strongly interfered in the revolutionary polina well, you know, she was still a freewoman since the ninety -fourth year. after kuchma came to power, they began to slowly turn off. us. as a result, it was forbidden to talk about bilingualism about federalism. the word federal structure was forbidden to be mentioned at all, and so for many years. it was all so driven out of 1994 and before. i mean, they demanded to close it before, but from the ninety-fourth. yes, it has already become such a common state policy, later. e, there were four or five years, when a bunch went for a second term, and when suddenly e, they began to remind, and he promised bilingualism and a federal structure, everyone was shocked that it turns out that someone else remembers this, and most of ukraine said in russian, so

and kuchma himself did not speak a word of ukrainian for a long time. and what was this zigzag towards the sale of an american newspaper, you know, after that i went to work in the press in print, but what was the print press in those eighties and nineties, that is, the party leadership disappeared, all the press knows what. in general, she seems to be earning. and how no one knows. and you know, there were always disputes, but they don’t have it like that, there were all sorts of courses. you probably also saw all these western quarrels came here. well, i tried. by the way, i remember that i took a lot of various courses, trainings and so on. i remember being on one of them. in the middle of the second half of the nineties, for the first time, he met belarusians with mogors. yes, so you have the right accent then. they were from magara. now they mostly run. not well, and i

remember back then, as i was shocked. they demanded to take courses with my brother and me somewhere in the czech republic in slovakia, and speak russian with us a little. e, speak ukrainian. you are from ukraine and this is the colonial past it's necessary, well, we switched to english with them . okay, to the working language of the conference . since it's like that, it suddenly happens a day later that they speak polish with the poles. i say wait, wait. yes, but what is it? again, the colonial past. but how did your belarusian figures omit everything. eh, the eyes of the dulu and switched to russian, who financed, in principle, always determined this, and in the end i went. i had the opportunity to go there for a year in america and i am there a lot. studied, including technologies of printing distribution technologies. uh, making seals and so on and then returned. e, he headed the regional project

, a very successful, by the way, business project, the salon of the don and the bass in donetsk was such and then became the editor-in-chief of the most widely circulated newspaper, already the kiev newspaper today. well, that is, it still came in handy more than i see, but if we talk about the starting point. yes, when , after all, freedom of the press in the same ukraine, yes, imaginary, but you yourself confirm this yes. that's when it split into before and after. well, for us it's 2014. well, no, of course not. it all started much earlier, that is, the introduction of the ideas of nationalism began in general from the eighties. uh, then the wildest theories already appeared that the russians were enemies and so on. this began to be introduced at the state level of ideology, of course, in the eighties. it all started from the end. for some reason, many simply believe that everything is after the collapse. there is no union. it also started in the late 80's. yes only it was, maybe from not so expressed. and

it seems to me that you know that no one has seen this in the donbass either. and here i come at the beginning ninety-first year, a few more months before the collapse of the union in lviv ternopil and already there in terno. stepan bandera avenue, that is, you represent the soviet union is still alive, and already , and already a soviet tank was removed from the monument from the pedestal, and already on may 9 , a tradition was started in lviv already two or three years, well, eighty-ninth year. it started. uh, beat the veteran on may 9, that is, these nazi thugs went to beat the veteran, the great patriotic war. all this was introduced gradually, many perceived. this is e. well, as some kind of private phenomenon, not worthy of attention to me you have no idea how much you heard it in moscow when we warned about the threats of all this both in donetsk and in kiev what yes, well, why are you exaggerating? why are you so

passionate about it? i have somewhere, by the way, a text message of one minister yanukovych is very influential, by the way, the ministers. uh, when i warned everyone in the thirteenth year in advance for a few. months, what will happen? maidan will be assaults will be camp? well, everything is somehow. well, that is definitely a must. e ready for it. this month wrote to me. well why are you like this? well, who are you forcing this on? who needs it? now somewhere in moscow hiding by itself you know, here, i often wondered. why in the fourteenth, but we thought that it brightly began in the fourteenth in such a short time even the russian-speaking part of the population. she began to hate russians so much, all russianness, russian culture , russian history. no, well, of course, even here it is not necessary to treat everyone with the same brush, of course we see how russian liberators meet in colors. many are clear. for many this nasty there, but no one

can simply express it. you understand what happens then to those who are killed somewhere out there simply, but there, who cannot escape, we will count. how many people are healthy now? hiding, my friend in the monasteries hid there until he was caught by a hut. now, behind the walls of an orthodox journalistic, good pressure is a patient. well, now he is being tortured there, we don’t know what they are doing to him, that is, a lot. of course, people do not support what the ukrainian authorities are doing. well, what about the masses this psychology was introduced for a long time. that's uh hmm you know the idea uh, the difference between russian ukrainians is the idea of ​​hatred for each other. it's true. it's a fact, isn't it? you won't believe what it was for. uh, to some absolutely animal instincts of dispersal of animal instincts, that is, let's say i took part in one tv program. well, about two years before

the maidans of all these on the tv and radio broadcasting company ukraine, the channel of the tatar renat akhmetov excuse me, he is the owner and discussed there, uh, dna that's how different dna russians and ukrainians have, and they came to conclusion based on some german swindler, there are conclusions that ukrainians are true aryans. and then i shout to them in the studio what you are doing. yes, you understand what this is leading to at all, for the sake of uh, hype, for the sake of some views, you are now dispersing what will underlie future bloodshed. yes, and what do you think events begin, and then 14 years old and here is one of the first one of the first interviews. e militants. uh, in my opinion, the right sector is prohibited in russia. i hope in belarus too, uh, that explain why they kill people. they are fighting there in mariupol, which means they are in the donbass

. he is not different from us, we are the dna of truth, they are not and refer to this program. that is , just imagine, yes, it worked. yes, it worked and very successfully, if i may say so. their passion and hobby is my favorite work credo who if not me, it seems to me that it makes me move forward when you come home in the evening and there is no such thing that there is an irritation feeling that you have done everything. here are all happy happy stand. and you well, there are many interesting stories behind the heroes. well, i never know who will come to us for an appointment, a deer can come to us. klasyonok stork is a directly defined milestone in my life number one, so that they, well, at least

live like a human. here, and they are here, when they arrive, they become other places i don’t know me, and so somehow it’s very inspiring to get to know them and leave a vivid impression. i am often asked questions. why are you here, why didn't you go somewhere? when you see your patients who are happy, who they run, and before that they could not walk, but , in my opinion, well, there is some relative happiness. i don’t know our family, we live like this, we love them, watch the project belarusians on fridays on belarus 24 tv channel. what is the impression of a person who visited our country for the first time, when i arrived in belarus, i saw that the sky is very strong and the water is very clean air the air is very good and the people are kind and that's all. very beautiful. i especially love

spring in belarus, when chestnuts are in bloom, when yellow rapeseed is blooming along the roads. and it's yellow sea. she is simply mesmerizing. i learned good teaching in belarus or that's why. i want to study here and after 3 years of living in minsk belarus the city of minsk for my family. almost home country. see in the project a look at the belarusians on our tv channel. look, they tried to impose on us for a long time that ideology is something caveman. yes. well, especially when the union collapsed, all the communist ideology was driven out, literally driven out, and then it’s just that without

time, on the soil that just the nationalist ones grew up in relation to ideology. but i myself, let's say, not in the past, but in the present, too, are an idiot. i understand perfectly well that more secure words have been found in the west. that is, they call it not ideology , they call it whatever you like democracy, yes, freedom, but one way or another, after all, ideological aspects in the west are being worked out, introduced and implanted. i would even say that not only that, but they do not hide what is at the forefront for them , that, as they say, democratic values, respectively, under these democratic values. you can kill by force rob doin shoot right, bomb the whole country, please, do you understand in the name of this ideology? vladimir vladimirovich, this is the informal title that i read you as an ideologist. donetsk people's republic is here for you. what is it about? well, i don’t consider myself as such, of course, i, well, there are those who

do. i really hope that my works of work were also useful, in any case, when the donetsk people's republic was proclaimed in donetsk, it was indicated in the declaration of entitlement that it is the successor of the cause of the donetsk krivoy rog the soviet republic which was established in the eighteenth year. and i’m the only one who studied this history and wrote, accordingly, long before these events, a book about the history of these events, i want to say forbidden stories , that is, if you look, yes, this topic was also banned in the soviet union in the ukrainian soviet socialist republic and that more in the independent in ukraine a. why in your opinion? the soviet union is coming. you know, now i’ll explain to me, by the way, dmitry tabaknik , the then minister of education of ukraine, he then at that moment was. when i found out i was writing, uh, a book on the subject. he was very surprised, he says, in our institute of history

at kiev university, the soviet account. ah, the institute of history. you know, it was possible to break through any topic, bandera there, skoropad eichman there, well, anything , clearly, in strict accordance with the ideology of the communist party, but nevertheless, you can afford to write something, one topic was banned. they couldn't write well. not good. it was impossible to mention the donetsk republic at all. a why i will explain to you, because when you study the history of that period, you involuntarily ask a question. how did it happen that such a vast russian -speaking region suddenly became part of the ukraine of soviet ukraine, yes. well, here it is, nonetheless. well, you involuntarily have to ask this question and answer it. well, like it or not, and then i remember how it turns out that in order to draw the donbass into the soviet ukraine, we were promised several bases. i

found from the original and documents. uh, handwritten including original and documents of that period. he was promised that ukraine would not be a national entity, respectively, the mov language would not be implanted and the russian language would be banned, that ukraine would be the federal republic of donbass and would have broad autonomy, you know, the minsk agreements provided for. you see why it was impossible to mention it not by chance. by the way, vladimir putin when he is often and before the start of special operations. after that, he turned to that period, recalling when the donbass became part of ukraine and he just this topic and i recalled how suddenly completely russian regions. that, not knowing, no one asked them about it, they became part of this very ukraine . that is why it was impossible to write about it. i wrote a book in the corresponding. yes , of course, i really hope that

your book will study it in the donbass. that's what she was called. yeah, uh, shot dream. story. yes, yes, the donetsk krivoy rog republic was shot. well, in it you explain why this region cannot be brought to its knees, even historically for those who have not yet read. why, uh, this firstly, because there is such a famous poem by our merciless donetsk citizen before the donbass, no one was forced to kneel and no one was allowed to put it written in 402, when we respectively were, and the occupation and fought for liberation. and secondly, yes, this is a very original region that did not take anything against us again, you know donetsk people, because they have always been famous for. that’s what they didn’t understand in kiev yes , that’s why, let’s say, the donetsk elite, when they arrived in kiev , they didn’t perceive it at all, because the phrase sorry, of course, this phrase donetsk is nowhere to go

you won't get it. the kid said, the kid did it. well , that is, if you shook hands and agreed, then this is already unshakable. yes, and in kiev they always believed that wait, like how it is, that is, it is necessary to deceive something by itself. how are you. you can conclude something without contracts, and so on, and donbass was a special region, of course, it did not fit into the ukrainian mentality in any way, into these ukrainian traditions, and so on. and when they tried to impose on the donbass, some kind of alien cadres, let's say some kind of alien line. he never does accepted. this is an organ. you know, after all, putin really in his speeches, only recently began to talk about these historical realities. why is this? withdrew. well, we were all embarrassed to talk about it before, that this is a russian region. russians live here russians live here. why were we so afraid of this, who were we afraid of offending, but putin began to mention this , uh, well, years. e. well, actually. i first, and then

the so-called after the fourteenth year. he mentioned many times. this one right here. uh, passage about how suddenly the donbass from chistaya ideological party considerations turned out to be part of ukraine. after all, they did not hide it. yes, why the proletarian donbass yes, in fact , they gave e needed in ukraine, and ukraine is such a petty-bourgeois rural country , a republic, and it must be added to it a conscious bolshevik powerful element. that's all. so here it is for the sake of party building. he became part of this state. well, why were you shy? and so, because we have developed such a practice, perhaps, unfortunately? big and still we can't from her, uh, often refuse. i mean, not only russia itself in the post-soviet space. but we must not interfere. this is the main thing, what is the gas here. uh, where will ukraine go? yes, and

at that time, the most russophobic projects were developing under his side. the russian language was banned when we raised the question, but about what needs to be linked, how does europe do it, how does it do it? the west is the very ideology with economic benefits. are you looking, yes, as they say to iran now, for example. well, this is one of the most recent examples. yes usa speaks. here you stop supporting russia. here you are curtailing programs with drones, and we will give you a little sanction with them. yes, the same is offered to everyone absolutely. here they have a very clear link. here is our ideological line for a world based on rules. you follow him at least a little, and here we are for you a little. we will single out a little bit of your money taken by us, uh. and we were always embarrassed about it. for some reason , we thought that ideology was a separate thing. no. no, in no case should the question

of cheap prices be confused with low gas prices. sorry means with these very questions the protection of the russian language in ukraine with the development of programs for the development of russian cultural history. it couldn't be tied together. it was officially announced, you know, and this, unfortunately, predetermined our dependence on the economy of a centric model, when ideology is something out there somewhere on the basis, and just think, it doesn’t affect anything that we should buy the ukrainian elite cheap gas, that's all. everything will go. well, you see, in many ways we are paying the price. it's true, and we are all i yes, ukraine is one of examples, but the most striking. and, of course, a question for a person who managed to work in a variety of forms, the media, and who, although they are afraid. well, let's just say you are quoted, including the western edition. that's why we've been seeing such a strong

out of sync in the western press lately. why do some have a ukrainian counter offensive? yes, this is a breakthrough and literally on the same day in another newspaper in another media is a failure. what is happening in general now is different. i've been really busy in recent years. hmm, analyzing most of the e western media mainstream about mainstream. different countries are researching, including the technology of elections in these countries and media technology in the first place. you know, it's just that different media in different countries play. uh, let's say a different role in relation to ukraine. i know some british newspapers. yes. uh, european ones, especially british ones, which are simple. their task is to participate in this information war. let's say the times newspaper yes, a once conservative newspaper, which it clearly has several full-time information provocateurs, so to speak,

working in the service of these same chicks, a their british ones. well, with the involvement, of course, of the ukrainians. and now their task is to throw in russophobic fakes to disperse these very anti-russian sentiments. in particular. they started doing this long before their own , i can assure you. and well, from them you will still hear attempts to prove it anyway. uh, tomorrow, if let's say, yes, the russian liberation, uh, troops, let's say, end up in uh, somewhere in the west of ukraine, yes, then they will still write about victory, that is, their task is the spirit, partners have a training front. them. you need to mind your own business. there are more honest reporters, so to speak, who get to the front line. and although they can't directly say that it is russia, it turns out that they are right, but, uh, they still really describe what they see. eh, let's say. just now

, an italian reporter visited kupinsky. yes , and he described that russian liberators were waiting there. uh, many left kupyansk with the russian army. and, of course, they dream of returning, that is, something like this breaks through. it's just, some newspapers have uh, different tasks, some are directly involved in the information war against russia for ukraine for ukrainian. this same army, and some do not. now, if you start from one of your books, how to win elections? yes, in the united states , great britain and the european union. yes, the analysis of these political technologies. yes, that's what you call it. very soon parliamentary elections in poland oh yes, then presidential elections in america russia and ukraine 25 elections in belarus i'm not talking about

the elections in georgia yes and so on. well, these are the main ones that end 23 start and in the middle of the twenty-fourth year, let's say behind the scenes, i was told that you really now began to deal very strongly with the polish theme. so now you have an analysis of new technologies. you know which will apply in these elections. and you know how these elections will affect you. uh, how can we say some paradox? well, in fact, such a thing is actually in some countries, in particular in poland . yes, i really am now very actively following what is happening there in connection with all traces of the upcoming elections there, yes, but very interesting development of the script. and by the way, i think that we should help our polish brothers. here, uh, they are now accusing that well, hello, well, kornilov is trying to interfere in the polish elections. yes , they just didn’t blame. when i lived in the netherlands, i did not hide the fact that i work for

the organization of the referendum, which means that in ukraine, the agreement, by the way, won them. uh, with opponents, then, uh, the accession of ukraine to the agreement of ukraine with the eu is reading a biography. i tried to understand what you were doing there for 4 years for four years, yes, indeed , this axis of the triangle has been built, so that ukraine russia the european union in order to somehow find consensus there. well, why and i was involved in a referendum , including, uh, and i, by the way, i read a lot about myself there in that dutch press, everyone tried to discuss it. who am i in the special services officially tried to buy my correspondence, which hackers hacked somewhere from a dutch newspaper, what she wrote about, in general, it was fun, but why and everywhere i really study election technologies. so here in poland now. uh, in my opinion, more of a return to such classic patriarchal technologies. you look now that's what

the pis referendum will involve. yes, that is a classic. excuse me, i mentioned mine from the elections in eighty there in 88-89, where i personally went to the polls once. eh, won them. e. in the first round, by a huge margin from the very serious use of technology, and so on, including using the local referendum, yes, that is, you yourself organized to evaluate the questions of the polish referendum. it's absolutely of course, the technology to raise the votes of the voters mobilize the voters squeak, anti-immigrant sentiment and so on. that is a fence question. it is not set by chance. no, of course, this is thought out exclusively for elections and for nothing this referendum by peace herself is not needed by and large, that is, new technologies were very actively involved during the election campaign of barack obama , then everyone was obsessed with these big bates, and the social network database use, but special

neuro-linguistic all kinds of e, criteria for selecting your target audience, respectively, targeting advertising it is for a specific small niche, yes , those votes that you want to get in ukraine, zelensky also hyped in the elections. well, there he has something else there, he is just on the general settings. he didn't use that much. uh, precision strike, but it's all technology. they cursed immediately after the victory of trump, who used these technologies very competently, including with the help of cambridge analytics. here is which then uh again cursed and banned just because trump used it. yes, and uh, now such a rollback has occurred, that is, it is considered, well, everyone is quietly using it somewhere, of course, this is targeting social networks, a database of social networks, but at least this does not stick out. yes , because again they can be punished to compare with

trump, and so on to the traditional ones in very many countries. yes, it's more traditional. now look at the us presidential election still only at the level of the primaries. and what about the primaries with only one party? yes and now, well, you see, all the candidates must have checked in at the fair. e cattle, damn it, you definitely had to wear jeans in this cowboy. hat to attend there and so on. well, well, everything, as in the classics, as in the good old days of the 19th century there, but of course, of course, they also use social networks, no one had a question. why is a referendum in poland - it's good, and in belarus when we held a referendum, it's bad, in general there is not even a parallel for an honest polish referendum was also condemned. you you understand the european stems, shmonton, because everything that they do works against pis, respectively. this is condemned a priori , that is, in the west this

referendum is very strongly condemned, but i look, you know, at what at, how now the same peace chooses its audience. here they have calculated, let's say it is necessary for the votes of farmers, the traditional base electorate. eh, cunt. uh, fight the ban on ukrainian grain from here. yes, a complete and total ban, in general, ukrainian agricultural products. they still hope part of the female electorate after all these. gave a part of the electorate back with a ban on abortions and so on. and what they will play now again it turned out that a significant part of the female audience, poland , are very strongly opposed to ukrainian migrants. eh, it turns out that these ukrainian women create e competition, as the newspaper wrote about it in the labor market, and it turns out that they also have such a market in the marriage market. here and uh, and here they

will play on it. and why do i say that it should be used? i don't feed no illusions about tusk. yes, we understand with you those who have a russophobic consensus, respectively revanchist imperial. if you like, if we are talking about the project, we are talking about the commonwealth. here, uh, they will be against belarus against russia a priori whoever wins, but there is such a golden formula. sdd you know, eat each other. now, if we remember there is such a classic, so, accordingly, this is what we should use, but in any case, is it possible to say that the united states stands behind the record and europe is behind the dull how correct this is, let's say the united states is also very careful about this. the united states generally believes that poland is their project. whoever wins there, they will support them. uh , the poles hope very much for us support . but the fact that tusk is unequivocally a european project

is a fact. of course, it works, in fact, for the same audience, but please note. yes, now in ukraine there is a hidden hope that tusk will come, that is, they cannot directly declare this, but this ban on ukrainian grain has hit very hard by not only economic interests, but in general by mentality. uh, the ukrainians, they considered the poles to be our best loyal loyal ally, yes and then the complete blockade and i don’t think now tusk will come. he is a european, well, accordingly, it is clear that he will not block. the decision of the european commission, as peace threatens. yes, what is he doing here? just the other day, he announces that he is taking the leader of the agricultural union of the very trade union that organized the developer when ukrainian grain is on the list, but ukraine forgets that in in principle, not only poland

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