and the elites, in order to restrain russia and belarus, are reviving and nurturing neo-nazi elements in order to use them as a tool to oppose our countries, and the renaissance is neo-nazism. they are possible, without the renaissance of the nazi and fascist ideology. cancellation of victory day inflammation of shukhevych. and bandera nazi slogans and symbols on the front. here are the edges. that is the whitest star. edelweiss, signed with hatred of the all, turn into one huge battalion named after the most terrible punishers, in whose captivity is the whole bratsk people to us. including this, the president will say this in a recent interview, which, with millions of views on various resources, scattered around the world like a hawk in the west. read in the united states of america you need to find it. and what about the slavic peoples fighting with each other. well,

let them kill each other. it is beneficial for them in this way weakened russia, let's get close to china from this side, this is how they argue zelensky is playing this game. but this one will end with the fact that the state of ukraine blooming, beautiful, richest in its natural resources, would cease to exist a dozen years ago, it was hard to imagine that everything would be exactly like this, that ukraine would become so different that in europe it would again spread over and the right free west would become one with them, neo-nazis, ideological romantics . maidan adventurers outcasts. it’s just that the bandits are an infernal brew of half a cauldron, from which the most fierce, most cruel over the dnieper battalions crawled out, aidar azov is necessary, but all the same, the unifying idea was for them nazi.

no, the idea of ​​​​racial superiority of both ukrainians over russians and correct ukrainians, that is, nationalists over the wrong ones, just as the ss in germany was once created on the principle of a kind of knightly order, so azov and others copied this scheme flags and chevrons with a swastika runes books and disks about hitler and bandera of such trophies from the base were shown a lot of nazi ideas rather quickly became the ideology of the entire ukrainian army, especially during the maidan and after when exactly the ultra-right and neo-nazi movements began strike force, but to participate and serve in their units. it quickly became prestigious, and so azov came and you are no longer anyone, but a warrior of light with a swastika, stuffed all over your back and you can torture everything to kill. what actually differed from the nazis. here is an example of a fighter. nazi captured concentration camp tattoo, young houseen on belly ss soldiers nazi cross on the foot of the rune gave the sign of the employees. ss office of race now imagine that there are hundreds of them and all with weapons and

are considered an official military unit such examples are huge. i think that in the near future we will see more so that the war against ukrainian nazism is not an abstract thing or a slogan. if you still don't agree with this, at least revisit this program happily. we continuously serve both at the green border and at checkpoints, thereby ensuring peace and creation for the citizens of the republic,

belarus i always knew that i would be a man in uniform. my dad is a border guard. i was always proud of him and you were always proud of this profession, so i also decided to go to serve in the border troops. i came to serve in the cynological center in 2003 and still heart and soul in this unit, because this is the best thing i could wish for myself and with the profession it was the work of a cynologist with a dog that i started, if i served with a service dog handler of a maternity ward. this is the most touching, perhaps. the place is a geological center, because puppies are intercourse with puppies. it is, of course, so much sweetness and kindness in this work. well, probably not anywhere else today. i am an officer of the department of professional learning. my most important task is also the training of young e, cynologists in the special service. this is a search for drugs or explosives.

one and a half they begin to overcome the obstacle course with us, that is, they are already engaged specifically, you understand that it’s not just like that. our cynological center can exist autonomously from the city, because everything necessary for instructors and service dogs is, in principle, in one place. we have a veterinary infirmary with very good dental equipment for dogs. uh, we have everything here in place during the service. i had two dogs. the first dog is named volcano labrador, black in color, and we worked with him to search for drugs. we worked together for 9 years. most importantly

, the cynologist must love this profession, that is , not just love dogs, but have a specific goal, uh, which he will strive to understand, this is the interaction of a tandem and go forward. don't let go. this is sometimes very, very difficult.

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the fiftieth year of what late stalinist classicism, and to disintegrate the belarusians, that it does not fall out, it was enough to come to our capital, forgive me. as if the soul is what it is on our tv channel. belarus is not obsessive foxes, blocky rivers and lakes , necronotous nature from which it is not maxim to tear off from the neck. but belarus is people. we open their ice for you, bring traditions of peace and change our views on the sound at once. and robing is the light of yakmakhalevshu.

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good evening hello, i am glad to welcome you. mutually, vladimir kornilov is a person known to our viewers more and more from russian programs. yes solovyov time will show 60 minutes and so on, where you can hear what you think, but not why do you think this is how our timing allows you to talk normally and find out both the first and second. let's start with the girl. come on vladimir kornilov is a russian and ukrainian political scientist. well, at least that's what wikipedia writes. yes, both used to be comfortable. adjectives. yes, but which one is closer now and why? well, uh, this russian wikipedia

quotes unconditionally ukrainian wikipedia specifically looked the other day that vladimir kornilov is a russian political scientist known for his ukrainian fop statements. that is, as you understand the different interpretations, the most offensive thing was in general, when i was still a citizen of ukraine yes , to exclude danilo of ukraine , the russian wikipedia indicated a ukrainian political scientist, and the ukrainian one indicated a russian political scientist, that is, respectively, both of them did not consider their own. but uh, you know, even while living in ukraine and being a citizen again exclusively of ukraine, i asked me to indicate in general in my book in my book before the creators of the war was the whole to indicate to me danetsky, political scientist, danetsky, historian, historian, donbass and etc. that is, even then i did not associate myself with that state precisely as a state and, accordingly , consciously all my life. in general, i fought

for my homeland donbass to return to my homeland of russia. so, that is, this was before the fourteenth year. it was, in fact, from the period when e became. it is clear that the branch will fall apart, the union will be since then. i’m afraid for this, i’m in 1989. in the year under the soviet union, already seeing , uh, the danger of where it all leads . together with my brother, we created an interview of donbass . what was her name? well, that is, i was a member of its central council, mind you, 89 years old, still quite young. i was then uh, but nevertheless i already then knew it would be a great tragedy. and you know, when my brother and i in 1991 under the referendum on december 1, 1991, and in ukraine, which took place about

independence , published underground leaflets calling for voting against the only independence. by the way, who could do this in ukraine was such a free democratic referent. so we pointed out there, yes, what the withdrawal of ukraine from the composition will lead to. well, separation from russia. yes, this threatens economic collapse - this is granite impoverishment of the people. it threatens. uh, coming nationalism of the renaissance of bandera and at the end there was a civil war. even our allies reproached us then. well, why are you so exaggerated? yes? well, what kind of war, maybe, well, that's all, unfortunately, in the end, all our forecasts and warnings came true. 2014, the wheel of the south returns to crimea. and why then those, well , indeed, other regions inhabited by the russian population at that moment did not follow the example, why did this not

happen? basically? no, how? well, in the donbass, there were attempts in the donbass happened, that is, the donbass, with arms in hand , defended this right. moreover, they also held a referendum and many have forgotten it, but i want to remind you immediately after the referendum, which took place in the donbass e. uh, the then head of the people's council of the donetsk people's republic, mr. pushilin, immediately the next day after the referendum, officially addressed moscow with a call to accept kherson into the russian federation, but there was also odessa kharkiv kherson, we know how it was suppressed, you remember, yes, there, yes, in kharkov there were power crackdowns. after all, in principle, ukrainian nazis did not hide their plan then. first, they suppressed the anti-maidan in kiev, put everyone on the floor there. uh, then it means they had it planned that way, then they need kharkov, then they need to clean up odessa , then donbass, then crimea, that is, they simply

intimidated, that is. well, not that they were intimidated somewhere, they just killed. you have started your career. uh-huh i yeah, i really liked it, because it coincided. i, too , once did this from work as a turner, yes, well, at first there was a car dealership, only then. probably every turner is a car mechanic, yes, a little political scientist is sure of this, but not every political scientist is a turner, yes, that's how life really led from a working absolutely working specialty, where first of all you work with your hands. to head work. well, what i agree with, any turner, of course , a philosopher, at least. it is definitely impossible to be a turner without philosophy. here, but in general, uh, well, how i finished school. this is how artyom sheinin told you. what did he start by studying the history of diplomacy? yes, yes, i read everything that could be history

diplomacy, world history, and therefore everything related to politics from childhood i outlined what, by the way, the bbc and the voices of america silenced mine, and so on. yes , i found it somewhere. yes, well, like, well, well, in short, here i knew in my childhood all the presidents of the capital, the prime minister, where which party wins? which one loses school years since childhood, i say again, well, there was no specialty political scientist then. in our universities. by the way, i had my doubts. where should i go was a large selection of different, by the way, a military school, i thought to go and how i remember now when we were writing an essay there in the tenth grade. who will become who yes, and one of my classmates, even as i remember now, wrote that here is vladimir kornilov. i heard that a military school was going, but i

was going to a specific military school. uh, here, uh, in krasnodar, which trained cryptographers, at least, at least a cryptographer. so he says, well, i don’t represent him in military uniform, they say he will definitely be a political observer. here somewhere on television and so on. imagine, yes, this one wrote mine classmate, but i didn’t know where, uh, i decided. well, all the same, everyone went to the army, then everything came urgently. the service was necessarily. i’m going to the army and then we’ll decide, respectively , there is a small gap between the school and the army, i went to my specialty, which, by the way, in this non-school, as it was called we have a promotion. uh, the professionalism of the cpc is definitely yes, uh courses. i went to the same place where i did this practice, respectively , i worked for several months, and after the army , yes, there was no longer any doubt. i went to study at the faculty of history and immediately became actively involved in

social and political life. actually further. i already told you. in fact , an excellent historical education, but now in my opinion. one of the most requested. yes, it helps a lot, it's great that it's really for you to understand. eh, modernity must necessarily understand the past to read it. e and, accordingly , the mistakes of the past to learn, so as to avoid the mistakes of the future what? unfortunately, we, i mean, all of us collectively often do not know how. well put it in lipetsk also connected with the donbass. i was born in the city of lipetsk was not. there since 6 years. all i dream of is to go, at least remember something. here well, yes, that's it, i'm in the seventh generation of donetsk, that is, all my ancestors. here the don donetsk basin was born. and? here is the most interesting both parents. yes, they are from the donetsk steppes, but they were born in the rostov region on the territory of the rsfsr. here, uh, my

older brother was born in donetsk let's say my parent graduated from the stalinist pedagogical institute. donetsk, respectively, here they are returned, as if they brought me to their native land, a little one, yes, from the first class. i went to a donetsk school, but my history education did not prevent my colleague from becoming at the age of 28, and the director of the trk ukraine is again in donetsk . yes, i'm not all that the rk of ukraine was the director of a creative association inside. yes, i created it. the thing is that trk of ukraine has become one of the most successful television projects in ukraine, but, of course, i started much earlier, that is, my first article. i wrote in 1989. this is how old i was 21 and the topic e ks was called how does rukh begin and, accordingly, i immediately pointed out the danger, e, the collapse of the country, the danger of national ideology, nationalism, and all my life, since the

age of 21, this has been the choice. i have created a program of choice. by the way, very much in favor of elections. i mean, i was already doing it. not only that, i even became, in my youth, deputies of some local authorities. and i also understood what to be, uh, a deputy. it's much more boring than doing deputies. here is create. yes, yes, he was more engaged in pre-election technologies study of implementation in practice. well, in addition to the fact that uh, the selection program i created is very curious, then the look program was in vogue, if you remember, yes, uh, everyone there look everyone everyone quoted her. i thought about creating a similar regional format and went to the first independent television in ukraine , as i remember now. she had the number one license in general throughout ukraine, donetsk, such a 7x7 channel and, uh, with this idea. well, they

say there, well, it's so not interesting right away, then we'll work on the news for now. ok then. i went with this project since then practically unknown to anyone donetsk well , as the sports farm was then called actively, yes , the figure is the director of no e. well, he was quite influential then in donetsk, and now, probably, everyone already knows the name of nikolai yancharov. well, we certainly talked. well then i say, he was unknown to anyone yet. affairs of donetsk here. i went to him with this project, knowing that he influences this channel i speak. here you will have an election. eh, correspondence helps, then the director of the channel calls me, gives me my own paper written by me , says, look, here nikolai yan is something like this such. well, something raw. and you just wanted something like that, and i take this one and criticize it. are you not? well, here, of course,

something completely full of nonsense is written and so on. these are the people who began to make a program of choice, which then became really a breakthrough, the most popular in the donbass, and, uh , played a large role, determining, well, a significant role, so to speak, in changing the political agenda there in the donbass. we even organized a referendum in 1994. and then donbass thanks, including this program held a referendum in donetsk and luhansk by the way, where more than 90 percent. the population has a legal referendum by the decision of the regional councils, that is, absolutely legally, where more than 90 percent voted for the official status of the russian language for the federal structure of ukraine for the self-government of donbass, if then these same officials in kiev would have listened to donbass. we didn't bring it all to these terrible sad bloody ones. yes, but that's the point vladimirovich

, here's the irony of fate, but on our nt channel also had a program, choice in the tenth year. she ceased to exist. yes, because our presenters just. yes, he made a different choice and left, just to ukraine, then commenting repeatedly. as far as freedom of speech is more developed there than in our totalitarian or as a republic. that's what then you could have a debate. that's in those years, you know, that's when i was then in the first half of the nineties. there was practically no censorship. well, there were very strong indignations of the nazis against the nationalists. they demanded to close. uh, that's a very long time stubbornly came, rallied from lvov , stopped by at night, and so on, but in general, to say that someone strongly interfered with the editorial polina . after

kuchma came to power, they began to slowly turn off. us. as a result, it was forbidden to talk about bilingualism and federalism. the word federal structure was forbidden to be mentioned at all, and so for many years. it was all so driven out of 1994 and before. i mean, they demanded to close before, but here ninety-four. yes, it has already become such a common state policy, later. e, there were four or five years, when a bunch went for a second term, and when suddenly e, they began to remind, and he promised bilingualism and a federal structure, everyone was shocked that it turns out that someone else remembers this, and most of ukraine said in russian, and kuchma himself did not speak a word of ukrainian for a long time. and what was this zigzag towards the sale of an american newspaper, you know, after that i went to work in the press in print, but what the print press was like

in those eighties and nineties, that is, the party leadership disappeared, all the press knows what. in general, she seems to be earning. and how no one knows. and you know, there were always disputes, but they don’t have it like that, there were all sorts of courses. you probably also saw that all these western quarrels came here. well, i tried. by the way, i remember that i went through a lot of various courses, trainings and so on. i remember being on one of them. in the middle of the second half of the nineties, i met for the first time with belarusian wavers. yes, so you have the right accent then. they were from magara. now they mostly run. no, well, i remember back then, as i was shocked. he and my brother, somewhere in the czech republic in slovakia , demanded that they take courses there, and speak russian with us a little. e, speak ukrainian. you are from ukraine and this

colonial past is necessary, well, we switched to english with them . okay, the working language of the conference . i i say wait, wait. yes, but what is it? again, the colonial past. but how did your belarusian figures omit everything, uh, your eyes were blown and they switched to russian, who financed, in principle, always determined this, and in the end i went. i had the opportunity to go to america for a year and i've been there a lot. studied, including technologies of printing distribution technologies. uh, making seals and so on and then came back. uh, he headed the regional project, very successful, by the way, the don and bass salon business project in donetsk was such and then became the editor-in-chief of the most widely circulated newspaper of the kiev newspaper today. well, that is, it still came in handy more than i see, but if we talk about the starting point.

yes, when, after all, freedom of the press in the same ukraine, yes, imaginary, but you yourself confirm? yes, but when it was divided into before and after , well, for us it is 2014. well, no, of course, it all started much earlier, that is, the introduction of the ideas of nationalism began in general from the eighties. uh, then there were already the wildest theories that the russians enemies and so on. this began to be introduced at the state level of ideology, of course, in the eighties. it all started from the end. for some reason, many simply believe that everything after the collapse of their own does not exist. it also started in the late 80's. yes, but it was. maybe that's how it's expressed. and it seems to me that you know that no one has seen this in the donbass either. but i come at the beginning of the ninety -first year, a few more months before the collapse of the union, to lviv ternopil and already there in terno. on stepan bandera avenue, that is, you represent the soviet union is still alive, and already,

and already a soviet tank was removed from the pedestal into the monument, and already on may 9 , a tradition started in lvov. already, moreover, two or three years, well, the eighty-ninth year. it started, and beat the veteran on may 9, that is, these nazi thugs were going to beat the veterans of the great patriotic war. all this was introduced gradually, many perceived. this is e. well, as some kind of private phenomenon that does not deserve attention. oh, you can’t imagine how much you heard it in moscow when we warned about the threats of all this both in donetsk and kiev what yes, well, why are you are you exaggerating? why are you so passionate about it? i have somewhere, by the way, a text message of one minister and yanukovych is very influential. by the way, ministers. uh, when i warned everyone in the thirteenth year in advance for a few. months, what will happen? maidan assaults will be in secret? well, everything is somehow.

well, that is definitely a must. eh, ready for it. this miss wrote to me. why are you like this? well, who are you, why are you pushing? who needs it? now somewhere in moscow hiding by itself you know, here, i often wondered. why in the fourteenth? well, we thought that it brightly began in the fourteenth, in such a short time, even the russian-speaking part of the population. she began to hate russian culture and russian history so much. no, well, of course, even here it is not necessary to treat everyone with the same brush, of course we see how russian liberators meet in colors. many clearly for many it is nasty there, but simply express it no one can be. you understand what happens then to those who are killed somewhere, just, yes, there, who cannot escape we will represent. how many people are healthy now? hiding, my friend in the monasteries hid there until he was caught

by a hut. now behind the walls of the orthodox journalistic there is a good patient pressure. well, now he is being tortured there, we don’t know what they are doing to him, that is, a lot. of course, people do not support what the ukrainian authorities are doing. well, the fact that this psychology was introduced into the masses for a long time. that's uh hmm you know the idea uh difference between russian ukrainians the idea of ​​hatred for each other. it's true. it's a fact, isn't it? you won't believe what for it came to some absolutely animal instincts of dispersal of animal instincts, that is, let's say i took part in one tv program. well, about two years before the maidan, all these on the trc ukraine channel of the tatar rinat akhmetov excuse me, he is the owner and discussed there , uh, dna that's how different the dna is between russians and ukrainians, and they came to the conclusion based on some german swindler, there conclusions

that ukrainians this is the true aryans. and then i shout to them in the studio what you are doing. yes , you understand what this leads to at all. now these here for the sake of uh, hype, for the sake of some views there, you are now dispersing what will underlie the future bloodshed. yes, and what do you think events begin, and then 14 years old and here is one of the first one of the first interviews. e militants. uh, in my opinion, the right sector is banned in russia, i hope they are also here in belarus, uh, which explain why they kill people. they are fighting there in mariupol, which means they are in the donbass . he is not different from us, we have dna, but not, and they refer to this program. that is , just imagine, yes, it worked yes it worked, and very well, if i may say so. every week, the heroes of the project

go in search of adventure, do not be surprised at the next task that brought me here to the thicket. they don't even realize. where will their fate take them this time. today you are leaving. in osipovich, mogilev region, you can imagine how historical this city is for the first time in written sources. it is mentioned on february 25, 1593 . together with them we will explore interesting places and sights of belarus . there was a hill from which a stunning view opens up exactly here the two rivers merge, the svisloch and the berezina, this is god's chair. and it grants wishes. someone sees on the stone. the face of the mother of god with

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the main air, watch belarus 24 tv channel. they tried to impose on us for a long time that ideology. it's cave stuff. yes. well, especially when the union collapsed everything, the ideology, the communist one, was driven out, literally driven out. and then it's just this , without time, on the basis of which just the nationalists have grown in relation to ideology. but i myself, let's say, not in the past, but in the present, too, are an idiot. i understand perfectly well that more secure words have been found in the west. that is, they don’t call ideology whatever they call democracy, yes, freedom, but one way or another, after all, ideological aspects in the west are being worked out, introduced and are planted. i would even say, of course, not only that, but they do not hide what is at

the forefront for them, that, as they say , democratic values, respectively, under these democratic values. you can kill , rape, rob, distribute, do you do the right thing, bomb the whole country, please, that's all in the name of this ideology, you understand? vladimir vladimirovich, this is the informal title that i read you as an ideologist. donetsk people's republic is here for you. what is it about? well, i'm not myself i think, of course, i, uh, but there are those who think. i really hope that my works of work were also useful, in any case , when the donetsk people's republic was proclaimed in donetsk , it was indicated in the declaration of the proclamation that it was the successor of the cause of the donetsk kryvyi rih soviet republic, which was created in the eighteenth year. and i am the only one who studied this history and wrote, accordingly , long before these events, a book about the history of these

events, i want to say forbidden stories, that is. uh, if you search, yes, this topic was also banned in the soviet union in the ukrainian soviet socialist republic and even more so in independent ukraine a. why in your opinion? the children's union is coming. you know, now i will explain to me, by the way, dmitry tabaknik was the then minister of education of ukraine, he was then at that moment. when i found out i was writing, uh, a book on the subject. he was very surprised, he says, in our institute of history at kiev university , the soviet account. ah, the institute of history. you know, it was possible to break through any topic, bandera there skoropadsky etymon there. well, everything anything. clearly in strict accordance with the ideology of the communist party, but nevertheless, you can afford to write something one topic was banned. they couldn't write well. not good. it was impossible to mention the donetsk republic at all. and why i will explain to you, because

when you study the history of that period, you involuntarily ask a question. how did it happen that such a vast russian -speaking region suddenly became part of the ukraine of soviet ukraine, yes. well, nevertheless turned out. well, you involuntarily have to ask this question and answer it. well, if you like it or not , then you remember how it turns out that in order to draw the donbass into the soviet ukraine, he was promised several basic ones. i found from the original and documents. uh, handwritten. including the original documents of that period, he was promised that ukraine would not be a national entity, respectively, the mov language would not be planted and the russian language would be banned, that ukraine would be the federal republic of donbass would have wide autonomy, because what the minsk agreements envisaged. you see why it was impossible to mention it not by chance. by the way, vladimir putin when he is

often and before the start of special operations. after that, he turned to that period, remembering when the donbass became part of ukraine, and he just remembered this topic, when suddenly completely russian regions. that, not knowing, no one asked them about it, they became part of this very ukraine. that is why it was impossible to write about it. i wrote a book in the corresponding. yes, of course, i really hope that it will be studied in donbass by your the book was just as it was called. yeah, uh, shot dream. story. yes, yes, the donetsk krivoy rog republic was shot for eternal dreams. well, in it you explain why this region cannot be brought to its knees, even historically for those who have not yet read. why, well, uh, this is in the first place, because there is such a poem from our famous merciless donbass from donetsk, no one put on his knees and no one was given to put it written in the forty

-second year, when we were, respectively, and in occupation and fought for liberation. a secondly, yes, this is a very original region that did not take anything against us again, you know donets people, because they have always been famous for. that's what they didn't understand in kiev yes , that's why, let's say, the donetsk elite, when they arrived in kiev , they didn't perceive it at all, because the phrase sorry, of course, this donetsk phrase is not going anywhere. the kid said, the kid did it. well, that is, if you shook hands and agreed, then this is already unshakable. yes, but in kiev they always believed that wait, how it is, yes, that is, it is necessary to deceive something by itself. and how can you conclude something without agreements , and so on, and the donbass was a special region, of course, it did not fit into the ukrainian mentality in any way, into these ukrainian traditions, and so on. and when they tried to impose on the donbass,

some kind of alien cadres, let's say some kind of alien line. he never accepted it and guessed it. so, you know, all of putin is really in his speeches, only recently he began to talk about these historical realities. why is this? they were embarrassed. well, we were all embarrassed to talk about it before, that's this is a russian region. russians live here russians live here. why are we so afraid of this? whom we were afraid to offend, but putin - he began to mention this, well, years. e. well, actually. i first, and then the so-called after the fourteenth year. he mentioned many times. this one right here. uh, passage about how suddenly the donbass turned out to be part of ukraine out of pure ideological party considerations. this was not hidden. yes, why donbass is proletarian yes, in fact, they gave e needed in ukraine, and ukraine has a petty bourgeois such a rural the country is a republic and it must be added to it a conscious bolshevik, powerful element or

element. that's all. so here it is for the sake of the party structure. yes, he turned out to be a part of this state, well, but why were they embarrassed, and so, because we have developed such a practice, or what, unfortunately? to a large extent, and still we cannot, uh, often refuse it. i mean, not only russia, of course, in the post-soviet space. but we must not interfere. this is the main thing, what is the gas here. uh, where will ukraine go yes, and at this time the most russophobic projects developed under his side, the russian language was banned, when we raised the question, but about what needs to be linked, how does europe do it, how does it do it? the west is the same ideology with the economic one. are you looking, yes, as they say to iran now, for example. well, this is one of the most recent examples. yes, the us says. here you stop supporting russia. curl programs with drones. and we are a little

male to you with them. yes, the same is offered to everyone absolutely. here they have a very clear link. here our ideological line is a world based on rules. you follow him at least a little, and here we are for you a little. we will single out a little bit of your money taken by us, uh. and we were always embarrassed about it. for some reason , we thought that ideology was a separate thing. no. no, in no case should the question of cheap prices be confused with low gas prices. excuse me, then with these same questions, the protection of the russian language in ukraine with the development of programs for the development of russian history and culture. it couldn't be tied together. it was officially announced, you know, and this, unfortunately, predetermined our dependence on the economy of a centric model, when ideology is something superficial somewhere, and just think, it doesn’t

affect anything, that it’s for us to buy the ukrainian elite with cheap gas, and that’s it. everything will go. well, you see, in many ways we are paying the price. it's true, and we all, yes, ukraine is one of the examples, but the most striking one. and, of course, a question for a person who has worked in a variety of ways. the media and which, though afraid. well let's just say you are being quoted, in fact including western buildings. that's why we've been seeing such a strong out of sync in the western press lately. why do some ukrainian counters have an offensive? yes, this is a breakthrough and literally on the same day in another newspaper in another. the media is a failure, what is happening in general is different now. i've been really busy in recent years. hmm, analysis of most of the western media , mainstream near mainstream in different countries. including the election technology of these countries and media technology in

the first place. you know, just different media play in different countries. uh, let's say a different role in relation to ukraine. i know some british newspapers. yes. uh, european ones, especially british ones, which are simple. they have tasks e to participate in this information war. let's say the times is a once conservative newspaper that clearly has several full-time information provocateurs, so to speak, working in the service of these very chicks, and their british ones. well, with the involvement, of course, of the ukrainians. and now their task is to throw in russophobic fakes to disperse these very anti-russian moods. in particular. they started doing this long before i can assure you. and well, from them you will still hear attempts to prove it anyway. uh, tomorrow, if let's say, yes, the russian

liberation troops, let's say, end up in uh, somewhere in the west of ukraine, yes, then they will still write about victory, that is, their task is to have a front in the spirit of a partner. they need to mind their own business. there are more honest reporters, so to speak, who get to the front line. and although they cannot directly say that this is russia, it turns out that they are right. but uh, still really describe what they see. eh, let's say. right now, an italian reporter has visited kupinsk. yes, and he described that russian liberators were waiting there. uh, many left kupyansk with the russian army. and, of course, they dream of returning, that is, something like this breaks through. it's just that some newspapers have, uh, different tasks , some are directly involved in the information war against russia for ukraine for the ukrainian one. this same army, and some do not. here, if

you start from one of your books, how win elections? yes, in the united states, great britain and the european union. yes, the analysis of these political technologies. yes, that's what you call it. very soon parliamentary elections in poland oh yes, then presidential elections in america russia and ukraine 25 elections in belarus i 'm not talking about the elections in georgia yes and so on. well, these are the main ones, which are the end of 23, the beginning and the middle of the twenty-fourth year , let's say so behind the scenes, they told me that you really now began to search for topics very much. so here you have there is now an analysis of new technologies. you know which will apply in these elections. and you know how these elections will affect yours. uh, how can you say some paradox? well, in fact, such a thing is actually in some countries, in particular in poland

. yes, i am really now very actively following what is happening there in connection with us, all traces are approaching, if there are elections, yes, but a very interesting development of the scenario. and by the way, i think that we should help our polish brothers. here, uh, you are now accused of being well, hello, well kornilov is trying to interfere in the polish elections. yes, just do not blame. when i lived in the netherlands, i did not hide the fact that i work for the organization of the referendum, which means that in ukraine, the agreement, by the way, won them. uh, with opponents. so, e accession of ukraine, to the agreement of ukraine is here reading a biography. i tried to understand what you were doing there for 4 years, not four years of building. yes, indeed, this axis is a triangle, so that ukraine russia the european union in order to somehow find consensus there. well, what did i do a referendum, including, uh, and i like that, by the way,

i read a lot about myself there in that dutch press , everyone tried to discuss it. who am i in the special services officially tried to buy my correspondence , which hackers hacked somewhere from a dutch newspaper, what she wrote about, in general, it was fun, but why and everywhere i really study election technologies. so now in poland. uh, in my opinion, more of a return to such classic patriarchal technologies. you look now that's what kind of a pis referendum is in effect. yes, that is classic. excuse me, i mentioned mine from the elections in eighty there in 88-89, where i personally went to the polls once. eh, won them. uh, in the first round, by a huge margin from very serious use, and so on, including using the local referendum. yes, that is, you organized yourself and evaluate the questions of the polish referendum. this is absolutely, of course, a technique for raising the votes

of the voters of mobilizing the voters of peace anti-migrant sentiment and so on. that is a fence question. it is not set by chance. absolutely not, of course, this is thought out exclusively for elections and for nothing this referendum by peace itself is not needed, by and large, that is, new technologies were very actively involved during the election campaign. barack obama, then everyone was obsessed with these big dates, and the database of the social network of use, and all kinds of special neuro-linguistic e, criteria for selecting their target audience, respectively , targeting advertising it is for a specific small niche, yes, those voices that you want get in ukraine zelensky also hyped up in the elections. well, there he has something else there, he is just on the general settings. he didn't use that much. uh, precision strike, but it's all technology. cursed immediately after trump's victory