establish a communication channel with prigozhin and then, together with the vector of collections, they provided these guarantees that the situation would simply be rounded off, but the political assessment remained and all the people who saw it there. well, they, as it were, uh, this, of course, influenced the assessment of prigogine, who, let's say, houses zhar on the wave of victory at the battle of artyomovsk. that is, where was really one of the biggest wins in recent years. that is, of course, that's all. well, let's say, it destroyed a little bit of the halo. here is this winner that was created in the first place, rebellion. secondly, uh, the rebellion failed. and today, in addition to this, we will buy a lot of informal versions about death. and cool. what rating do you give? well, look from the point of view, of course, for people you can enter the speech of some kind of accident between was an obvious evil fiction. now various versions are being considered, that is, as the black boxes are studied, the analysis of the bodies of the dead. breaking into

an airplane god, well, the investigation into groups can. well, to determine a more accurate picture of the catastrophe, among the cause, whether it is external explosion impact. e explosive device on the plane. i think all these versions, of course, will be discussed, how officially and put forward, that is, there will certainly be a lot of conspiracy theories, which are, well, british tabloids. you know, they came out on the same day with the same headline that this is putin's revenge. in addition , it shows favorably that here is to cultivate some internal ones. well, internal contradictions are growing in russia, although putin, on the contrary, is unprofitable. that's it in this vein, as they say eliminate attached, because firstly, there are guarantees that were given on behalf of putin on behalf of president lukashenko, and now it turns out that they gave guarantees of guarantees, no matter how, well, so they yes , respectively, even from a political point of view, putin, as if it were completely useless. that is, on the contrary, to some, perhaps, e.g., forces that are well tuned to the destruction of the political system of russia. such is your

use of this situation with prigozhin, well, they could consider that, on the one hand, they are not removing the dangerous figure, on the other hand, will help to somehow cultivate some kind of internal contradictions within the military-political elite of russia, that is, uh, but again , it’s too early to talk about who exactly planned it and how. i think you will find out in time. well, those tasks that, as you beautifully call outsourced, pmcs are an important area, as they will be now. here's what you think about the prospects of this structure. well, also, if, that is, there are serious changes in the leadership of such a large structure that works for several continents. and in many countries. that is, of course, this, well, cannot but affect the quality of the implementation of these tasks at the moment. you surrender and belarus and in the king. in syria, there are still a number of countries where they are being carried out, that is, in the same volume and, in principle, at the political level. the countries

confirm that regardless of the fact that somehow the investigation will go on, that is, these countries. p are ready to continue cooperation in the same mode, whether it is the dude wagner or if there is a replacement contractor, because it is clear that in russia there are, as it were, other dudes, there is work through the ministry of defense. that is , yevkurov's recent visit to libya again shows that not only pmcs work there in africa, but this is precisely the future of the structure in the long term. it's pretty foggy right now. that is, i think that after it becomes more detailed the reasons for the death of yevgeny prigogine. and it will be possible already, according to the statements of other company officials, to roughly imagine which course the worm will choose important, probably in the future to be yes? will it be more closely affiliated with the state? or they will offer a case, similar to the same mode in the same format, that is, well, it again depends on the top managers of the company. which so far

too often statements do not please us. why are you actively interested in, uh, worrying about the poles for whom the presence of the wagner pmc on our territory was such a serious horror story in the election campaign, what will happen now? do you think again they enjoy the transfer of dude wagner to belarus when, again, some kind of russian anti-belarusian threats are blown up. uh, well, using it there, in the sense of pulling up additional forces, and on the suval market there and, well, and on the western borders of belarus but a person, probably, well, really does here , first of all, the task of training consultations with law enforcement agencies, belarus and heavy weapons that could be used by some kind of active action. in fact, they all remained on the territory, lc. somewhere there were field camps and they according to the description, they were even before sunset. belarus were transferred to the song of the ministry of defense. this applies to the sub-barreled artillery of tanks. e. there, in principle, but they stopped by in the main.

well, at best, with light weapons, this, of course, is not enough for some serious offensive actions, so well, with all the propaganda pictures that are being created in poland, it is obvious that at the level of the military general staff. well, no one believes the general staffs that sherokhovanov is going to attack poland there or lvov, that is, as if for it's just that there are no such resources, but nevertheless. once we've spoken. about poland, how do you explain this aggressive policy, warsaw, whose representatives are, in general , actively militarizing and, in fact, do not hide their intentions to create the strongest army in europe, but they always they create this army on credit, that is, they recruit loans, buying a large number of weapons in the united states in south korea there are still a number of countries. well, among the ambitions of poland, this is definitely the annexation of the western part. this part of the poles is not a big secret - this is let out from time to time. and well, the ministry of russia periodically publishes documents about the preparation of e conne. and three

or four regions of western ukrainian under the guise of help. well, the introduction of the polish-lithuanian corps through integration, well, poland and ukraine , and well, if we know these statements that there are no borders between ukraine and poland. well , in fact, the polish military personnel take an active part in the hostilities in ukraine , that is, according to various estimates. there's seven to 10,000 died during the war in ukraine, that is, and then, under the guise of volunteer mercenaries to us, nevertheless, poland is active, that is, in order to recoup these, well , the costs of loss, that is, they naturally count on certain territorial acquisitions during this war. that is, well, the most logical thing. this, of course, is western ukraine, but we see that threats are being voiced and this is a realistic scenario regarding belarus. do you think that the scenario emphasizes the fact of the transfer of nuclear weapons, because the threat of a conventional war without the use of weapons of mass destruction on the territory of belarus. it

is indeed a serious danger, because the army of belarus is, of course, smaller than the nato troops that are concentrated in, well, let's say , eastern europe that can be involved. let's say for aggression against belarus and a in the presence of nuclear weapons, of course, it is much more difficult to make such direct threats. that is, again, this is necessary. it's not an attack weapon. this weapon is precisely insuring, that is, so that i can avoid it. well, let's say it's especially cool hotheads in warsaw who think , let's now from the territory of ukraine from the territory of poland throw these e, militants swept with a red and white flag, which will imitate the creation of some there. well, they were. actually, as if belarus voiced all the time. these plans are hidden documents that they want to seize some kind of diet to raise the regional center to create some kind of democratic government there, which will be recognized there more by ukraine and the united states, and well, as a pretext for this, start pumping this region troops, well militants weapons and use to further.

against belarus, that is, there are plans and there are, you understand. the fact is that your speak should cool these hot heads, but we see that even the presence of tactical nuclear weapons did not stop the poles from continuing their territory. of course, they will build up, that is, plans for deployment over eastern europe, they imply a steady increase in the grouping, uh, in the baltic states in poland well, there in the czech republic because they have a plan to deploy on the territory of eastern europe near the borders of russia up to 300,000 people grouping. they are in their fifth year. yes, plus 10 people, there will have to be a corps somewhere up to fifty thousand. this is a rapid response corps, which can be quickly deployed to certain areas and conduct a fairly operational plank. what is is we see. yes, probably, the russian belarusian grouping has increased in belarus , nuclear weapons have appeared. in addition to this, a new leningrad military district is being created now. so, again, we see. members of our

groups in kaliningrad strengthening of our grouping on the border with the baltic states of finland that is, muma, how we ended up in situations like we already, well, someone older remembers the years of the cold war, when the two blocs had huge military resources concentrated opposite each other. but along the line of separation, just an iron curtain, in fact, well, new ones, and not created by us , formed. he passes. he is to the east. yes, again, this is the price of gorbachev's policy and, well , in short, yeltsin, who allowed all this, that is, we reap. including everything consequences. that's the kind of periodicity that they think that the west simply deceived them. well, they believe that gorbachev was originally, uh, traitors. well, i mean, well, the debate continues. well, as a fact, here we live in a world created by these people, that is, everyone thought that we would be happy to be friends. west everything will be europe from lisbon to vladivostok and in russia part of poli tycholit for a very long time

in the nineteenth year you did the exhibition, and for sobon da vladivostok russian inertia, that they thought that we made serious concessions there, that here we will now, no there will be no conflict in europe well, war in europe is impossible. eh, how about why? let's all be friends to trade, but then it turned out that russia is to the west, i saw some kind of partner is not particularly needed. it seems to me that it is also historically explainable. if you look at the spiral, which is always on the rise, again, russia was gaining power, it does not need strong competitors. that's all. yes, well , at the expense of including us, the paper was not pulled in. i mean, i'm kind of a building bomb. yes, she is the nord stream, you know, very serious. well yes, in fact, because russia worked out. she got the opportunity to trade. that is, it was a mutually beneficial deal for russia for germany, when now this war , that is, the americans, as they are solving the problem , that is, with the help of ukraine, i not only weaken them, russia, they are the european union they relax

very much, we see how it collapsed , and the economy of some of their countries generally fell into recession, although even germany was primerkel one of the locomotives of the european economy and people. yes, what's worse for you is better and people endure. russia based its expectations on the fact that nationally oriented elites will prevail in europe, which will be focused on improving the well-being of their own population, that is, on mutual trade cultural exchange. that is , they tried to build up with germany to the last. that is precisely this kind of relationship, as if on an equal footing, that is, but in the end it turned out that the atlantic elites, who frankly dominate the european union, let's say, well, this visit of the minister of defense in russia clearly follows the lead of the washington move and belarus yes, and the chances he recently had with us and washington does not have it reacted, threatened fingers and said that if only some help would not be slow, in the end. answers, what do you think in general about

the prospects for our military-technical cooperation with china, well, it will obviously develop, that is, just some info. i think, regardless of the name, that he was a party even before he began to travel abroad actively, that is , he was active in china, he directly, of course, does not supply any weapons. well, on the other on the other hand, china closes for the russian army a number of issues related to the same drones that you can safely buy, that is , no sanctions restrictions. there on many issues. no, russia allows. well , with the help of china, we can close some problematic moments, we see at a distance the number of rays, uh, and they will increase, and their number and size. a. that is, i think that the military technology for the production of individual e.g. weapons that will be used, including by russia, will also melt away. but from the point of view view of belarus then, again, this opens up the possibility of obtaining. well, since there are no direct sanctions there , especially to buy some interesting types of weapons.

high-tech, which, let’s say in the west, is now impossible to buy or difficult, well, which can be bought either in china or through china, given that i now understand that the cost of the armed forces will grow everywhere now and the requirements for the manufacturability of weapons are also growing. china - this is a very important partner. and was and will remain. well of course, them. of course, not everything is exhausted. that is, one should not think that there are such china who will help everyone, save everyone. no, this is wrong, that is, but china, just in case, when an important partner, as it were, naturally, russia in belarus has, as it were, its own interests, but now , since all three countries are in an acute stage of conflict, the united states is less chinese, but still they understand that the conflict over taiwan is a matter of time, moreover, there have recently been statements that the us is ready to hand over. ah, weapons. yes, the decision has already been made winged manpads tanks. that is, again, they, like in ukraine, they pump up taiwan at the right time. they are like that, that is, and when it is the most disadvantageous china, they will try to activate this one. it is clear that china would like to peacefully resolve the issue with

taiwan, but i think no one in washington will give them such gifts. and when the time comes, the conflict in taiwan will activate. and now we will briefly interrupt after a short pause, we will return to this studio again, while subscribe to our telegram channel, say, do not be silent, but look for all our releases on the youtube channel belarus 1. on the air say again, do not be silent, and our guest is military expert boris rozhin, boris here. look last year, joe biden said that the us will not leave the middle east and leave behind a vacuum that will be filled by china, russia or otherwise successes in the middle east here today later. a year after those statements. e what do you think? yes from or usa maintain leadership in the middle east well

, leadership as such is no longer there. we are seeing a steady erosion of us influence in the middle east. it has been going on since the beginning of the russian operation in syria, which reversed the trends that were formed there after the arab spring, that is, the united states, despite the presence of its troops in syria in iraq in a number of countries. they are nevertheless lost, influence. we see that in iraq they have reduced. the number of its military bases remaining are regularly attacked by iranian prox, that is, bases are being shelled, and attacks are on american logistics convoys, to the americans periodically. iranian proxies are being bombed there along with israel, but this does not help iran's influence much in iraq and syria, it only grows again, the main consequence of the arab spring for the entire region, that is, weakening the league of nation- states, destroying them or, uh, making them, well, weakly capable. they actually cleared the ground for iran, so a strategic land corridor emerged. tehran take, which goes through the hierarchy or

you, that is, the iranian received direct land access. to the mediterranean sea , iranian forces will be deployed near the border with israel, hasbula is at the peak of its military base now, if military capabilities are in syria. recruitment is ongoing. and naturally, pressure on american bases in syria is also growing, unknown, let's say local. and freedom fighters periodically attack american bases, that is, the shelling of american bases now is not something like that. not well, that it was impossible to even imagine before, that is, the zero years imagine that someone is shelling an american base. it’s like, well, some kind of oksimiron, yes, but now it’s already, in principle, everyone is used to it, but it’s quite a phenomenon by hand. that is, like here are some stories there with drones about the same as some kind of american bases in the middle east in general - this is the norm; moreover, you call it an attack on moscow city there as some kind of almost fake toy, of course. no, this is definitely not fake, that is, some damage is being done.

uh economic, that is, well anyway editions undertaking repair. ah, it is suspended, let's say the work of the airport is also money. that is, this is tens of hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage. that is, when the airport there does not work for several hours, that is , in any case, this is damage, that is, it is clear that from a military point of view, the average, that is, potential. as it were, well, for the main one as if it were about nothing, well, everything still has something. it is clear that the enemy uses this more for the purpose of the media. that is, when here i am, you cannot achieve serious military results on the offensive stalled. well , you can block these military failures with some of these drone attacks e. well, that is, this, in principle, from the point of view of informational psychological warfare - this is, in principle, quite. understandable operation. well, it’s terrible, what do you say boris that you can get used to this person on as they say, respect for a person is an adaptive animal, he gets used to everything, but, but it ’s clear not this situation itself, in any case , you can’t say that this is all normal. no it's not normal, that is, well, we kind of

got into such a reality, yes, that is, run around with hysterics, swing oh, the drone has arrived well, of course, if it doesn’t make sense , then what in this twisting of the spiral bothers me, but you can also give a nuclear action, because there is a constant escalation. it will, of course, as i said, that is, everything that goes below the threshold for the use of nuclear weapons can be used, that is, the risks increase accordingly, that is, well , we have already seen the warriors, this is the korean war where it all ended just before the threshold the use of nuclear weapons was the war between iran and iraq, which changed everything, including weapons of mass destruction. that is , saddam hussein used chemical warfare agents, that is, the conflict between india and pakistan , the conflict in general between two nuclear powers, which were made cashmere because of it. they periodically have military clashes there. that is, everything is the same there, somewhere it goes, but at some point, thanks to politics there , everything is somewhere up to this line that cannot be crossed, it is not crossed now will. well, now the risks of that are increasing. uh,

because, well, the stakes keep going up. next year. this will begin with the supply of combat aircraft. there are even more long-range missiles , respectively, risks, including some kind of provocations associated with undermining zaporizhzhya , everyone saw that kakhovka dirt can be undermined and create an ecological disaster there with consequences up to a decade. well, they blew it up, everyone saw that this is no longer something not so unthinkable, that is, the option of blowing up power to the zaporizhzhya npp is quite realistic, for example, a strike on a waste storage site, which, as i understand it, if the americans give the order, then this is really quite real, because they don’t care that europe will be polluted. well, well, yes, in essence, when they destroyed the fluorite warehouse, where there were british shells with a united iran, and there are these clouds. well, it went west to ukraine. there, in the direction of poland, that is, everything that they saw, well, it is clear that the americans are there in britain somehow absolutely. there they grabbed this wound

shells with combined uranium were used, that is, they, even in the west , various transparent environmental organizations said that well, this is generally already practically the level of use that allows substances there weapons of mass destruction. they say no. we do not think so, we will supply them, that is, they supplied them. uh, looked, then cluster supplies. it seems to me that this world has broken down, the following is already in the period when the old world order is falling apart, that is, we have seen that it was falling apart from old events in during the first world war, when the second world war drastically weakened the british empire, we already saw with the usa and the ussr that they finally became the only superpowers, and the british empire, following the results of the second world war, generally collapsed as one of the largest acts, that is, there are such periods. yes, that is, our generation has grown up, that here we lived for the second time in an era of great change. well, as they say in the chinese service, of course, to live in such an era, but we survived, uh, the collapse of the ussr, and

now we see birds, we see how the whole order is familiar to us. that is, it crumbles in belarus how many years was the last time i was in russia i came here at the age of 10 in the ninety-first year, when the ussr was already on the rise, i visited minsk well, so i play chess at the spartakiad of the peoples of the ussr just a cold mind . this is 60 chess refuses. yes, i have it very