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different people, but they are united by one thing: love for belarus belarus 24 information analytical project current microphone on air on the belarusian radio tv channel belarus 24 with you presenter andrei sych our guests are journalist diana shukovskaya and conversation analyst alexei donin. we are already in many ways accustomed to the fact that there are attacks by drones and unmanned aerial vehicles on russian regions. but this night there was a massive attack, unprecedented in many ways, which caused a really wide discussion both in the russian public and in the belarusian one. but there is a lot of analytical data that,

after all, such attacks do not have any real military benefit for ukraine. official kiev and i would like to clarify alexey tell us in your opinion. for what purpose do they still occur? this is an attempt to create some kind of panic in public opinion. you know, we have already discussed more than once, within the framework of our various programs on belarusian television and on belarusian radio, the root causes, yes , the philosophy these are the actions on the part of ukraine that were cited, in principle, this is the technology. uh, the technology for creating an extreme camp. it was first described in 2008 by siptalibam in his book. uh, black swan and which just talks about the creation of the so- called. and uh, a certain state of chaos, yes, or they call it the tyranny of the random, but in reality, this purposeful action is the use of modern technologies with the west for the buildup, uh, of any state for the buildup of any society, and

is aimed at predicting strikes. yes, they seem to be small, they are, uh, in some plans they are not insignificant, yes, but in reality they divert enormous resources, and they create a fortune. surprises, uh, forms, uh, some tension. and, of course, we must understand that it does not achieve any military strategic goals, but creates a certain psychological state of society and such information tension. and this topic is constantly discussed and it is still the most important aspect that we must touch upon in that that ukraine is not doing this on its own. this is done exclusively, and the countries of the collective west, the nato countries that guide these uavs , know completely, uh, all the intelligence

data on airfields on objects. where to go apply? uh, strikes or uh, how to plan the flight of these uavs, uh, and we, well , we understand perfectly well that the west is now leading uh. eh, already an open war against. list of the federation and we see that the war is already, and according to the philosophy of the ideology of the west, it should be transferred to the territory. there are many experts in the russian federation. this is precisely how these attacks by drones and unmanned aerial vehicles on the territory of the russian federation are linked with major problems on the line of contact directly with the difficulties that arise in the notorious contrast. and this is such an attempt by kyiv demonstrate at least some victories and achievements on the front line. diana what do you think about this, and i want to remind you that there really is a war that

is going on now, and this war is primarily of drones and unmanned aerial vehicles. that is, you need to be prepared for this because, in general, attacks are carried out precisely with the help of these technical means. so i want to remind, perhaps, those who do not know where they arrived. yes today uh these attacks are a. in total , 10 drones arrived at pskovsky airport. e, bryansk region, three aircraft-type drones, the oryol region was shot down by two drones, the kaluga region, one drone was destroyed, uh, and the second hit an empty tank. e for petroleum products in the ryazan region was carried out in 1.5 hours, two uavs were also destroyed and one in the moscow region. drone well, also in the black sea. uh, four high-speed boats were detained, s. e. hmm in total , there are about 50 troops. but, by the way, i was talking with candles, in general,

how do you feel about the fact that drones are flying in? and moscow city, if you remember, it was also yes , the situation, in principle, is panic, uh, no one has this does not cause artillery, it works perfectly and it should be noted that the russians also made retaliatory strikes this night, as well as. uh, there were also uh, explosions. here in odessa, uh and uh, well, in a number of regions. it’s hard not to remember now. uh, therefore, in principle, an exchange of blows took place, we see , uh, a certain tension in ukrainian society , these shortcomings at the front, because society was really overheated with promises that this counter-offensive would lead to the end of the war. uh, literally until the end of the year. this promise was heard from almost all broadcasts from all tv channels. uh, to the territory of ukraine, but now everything

is open. they say that these expectations will not be met, and ukrainian society is probably even more concerned not about victory, but about the end of this conflict , you know. and we, of course, did not discuss or criticize our opponents, our nato enemies, ah, but you need to understand that uh , under nato, uh, there are uh, the most powerful institutions that are engaged in, and carrying out planning, carrying out and evaluating, and psychological operations and for them, uh, ukrainian society. e, in the period of preparation for war and during the war, it is considered as a laboratory, and one is a laboratory for testing weapons of military equipment, the modern other is a test, and various political technologies of information propaganda technologies are e. here. e. any, well, a society, yes, or a community of people and we see very well, and

what methods they are now using. uh , uh, this expectation of a counterattack, and uh, some successes. this is such a technology dream management, and that’s what it’s called. that is, this, and the formation of the necessary, beautiful picture that people begin to believe in, but then at some point everyone understands, well, something went wrong, but the most important thing is different, and that at this stage the necessary the forces have already earned a huge amount of money. they made money on the supply of weapons, and on the supply of food supplies of ammunition, and the fact that it failed there. well, in principle, no one cares anymore, because millions, or even billions of dollars have already been earned. herself the goal in itself of this counter-offensive. e k does not lie in some success or in some. uh, you know, uh, preparing uh, ukraine, for defeat or preparing ukraine? to victory? no,

the thing is that there may be many such counterattacks, but because the west and western corporations have now chosen the most important strategic task. for them, they solve their financial, industrial problems of overproduction problems and excessive debts only due to the war in another part of the world, war cannot be done now and they will pump it to the maximum ukraine and uh, we see how after the counter-offensive after the huge losses that suffered in the service of and in general ukrainian uh, society. yes, within the framework, uh, not of the success of the counter-offensive. they have now started a new mobilization, otherwise they will change the legislation. and this is what it says about the fact that they are again preparing for a counter offensive and literally in, probably, a few weeks, we will see a new information wave that, uh, well, this counter attack failed here, but

now, tomorrow a new one will begin edim, they will not win, but they will earn those who stand this is a huge amount of money. well , in any case, we observe that some kind of informational hangover is disappointment in those promises, it is still felt in ukrainian society. i just came across a video on tiktok several times yesterday. this has already become a full-fledged platform for expressing one’s opinion on the territory of ukraine, because monoether , unfortunately, does not allow different points of view to be declared on the territory of ukraine now, from official kiev, so the woman openly says that we are behind for several years they have been turned into beggars who are forced to stand in lines for humanitarian aid. but we were once in a great country that had space technology, diana what do you think, how much is the limit. the intensity of internal, say

, negativity towards official kiev has matured. eh, it’s difficult for ordinary ukrainians to speak now. e. hmm some kind of feces, because it seems to me that everything depends on the region. everything is the same, that is, in western ukraine there can be one mood in the central part. and in kiev and others, and again in the southeast there is a third. ah, but we can definitely say that no one likes mobilization. we also see this in various telegram channels. uh, people are indignant at how, at the everyday level, publications in the media appear in the same way that this is all illegal. this is this kind of slavery. yes, coercion to an employment contract. in general, it is slavery, and hmm , there are quite a lot of such publications, too, that is, but again, who are these publications, yes

, these media launch, that is. well, you need to look at who the author is and so on, and what the goals are followed, while e just as i'm sure you can find the opposite, er, opinions. that's why everything here is, well , ghostly enough for us to analyze. well, uh, in turn, i want to. to note that the fact that i literally myself recently recorded, is that, and already fundraising for the war is being carried out even through computer games, that is, and the well-known uh, computer game uh warcraft uh, so attracted uh, actress mila konis, who has ukrainian roots. this is to promote the game, but players are offered to buy two cute animals, but yellow and blue. well, that is, the reference goes to the ukrainian flag, and thus, it means to donate money to

charities. and the score, uh. i went further and studied. and where does the money go in the end. uh, it's a variety of organizations that offer. and that means donating money to help. there are winds for the old people, and to the rescue. animal household children, and for mine clearance it would seem yes, what a good mission? ah, after all, the admin, uh, civilians suffer first of all, but uh, upon closer examination, it turned out that a the owner of this charity - this one specifically for mine clearance. this is a former american marine, uh, which, perhaps , is possible, but well, everything indicates that with one hand, roughly speaking, he takes these mines, and takes them with the other. perhaps, with the help of another company, not himself personally, but he puts it. yes, where it is beneficial to him, that is, but in fact you need to look, er, and understand, and

even anatoly shariy said about this, that a money actually flocks to one for a murder. e people during hostilities. we observe that now in europe in in general, the trend of a negative attitude towards ordinary ukrainians has gone, people began to be beaten openly. such hostility indeed, anti-ukrainian rhetoric is unfolding, and i am sure that this is not due to the general attitude towards the citizens of ukraine towards the national ukrainians, but to a greater extent due to the fact that some of them still, uh, behave unworthily in any nationality. e takes certain steps that cause this reaction. and so i think that, probably, one of these steps was an attack on belarusian e diplomats, which what do you have to say about this? well, by the way, today , uh, at 2:00, the verdict will be announced, and the defendants. uh, unfortunately, all of them are still outside our country,

that is, special production against them is happening, but uh, they face considerable terms of up to 12 years. well, just the same today i’ll go and find out, that is, uh, several people, uh, in london , if you remember, they attacked uh, ours. diplomats at our embassy and it is already known that these people are members, and hopeful groups that have been actively behaving in the uk, and in this way even completely constructive. generally. here are the results today. how exactly, uh, we are observing the situation regarding the fact that not only ordinary citizens in the eu countries back in the west are beginning to have a negative attitude towards the citizens of ukraine, but in general, uh , at the highest level in various countries , efforts are being made to force official kiev to hold new elections aleksey

, what is the reason for this? another information move to divert attention distraction at home. in the west to the west - in the western audience in europe and diverting attention for the ukrainian society, in fact, we all perfectly understand how zelensky came to power . that is, this is actually the principle of appointment, how the last e, prime minister of great britain or in european countries came to power . yes. uh, there is a scholz, come on, this is actually the appointment. yes , no elections, that is, the topic of the elections is that zelensky does not want to hold elections there the americans insist on holding this as their next game, uh, and zelensky and the americans are playing uh, against the same goal. and do not, uh,

believe that they allegedly have some kind of confrontation there. well, imagine, uh, single-valued managers. yes, the manager signed a contract with him. this is zelensky and that zelensky will e get up. no, of course, they will simply cut off his salary and won’t pay him and that’s all . it is clear that zelensky's rhetoric has changed dramatically. uh, in nato he spoke from russia, he can play any role, therefore they took him, you understand, this is the role of entotement. one that should entertain just like biden's biden is the one who distracts entertains. and zelensky is doing the same, it was not in vain that these actors were chosen. eh, why this way? eh, it's easy to write off in the first place. second, they are very good. eh, they convey emotions. and most importantly, truthfully. yes, uh, the public believes, as if this is really their game, but in fact, uh,

they are completely and biden. and they are subordinate to zelensky. uh, the uh to the corporate industrial finance community, which and uh, cashing in on this war is called it e disasters. ukraine, europe, including uh, understands perfectly well that this kind of uh policy can continue to be pursued, because it is extremely effective. it allows you to earn money in the conditions of, uh, the severe financial and economic crisis that we are seeing uh all over the world, starting in 2019, again. look who comes to see zelensky, angelina jolie and who barbra streisand will kiss him and so on, basically everything, these are actors who are close to him and it seems to him that yes. here donated such. yes, this show, you know, that is it, eh. these are the same games of gladiators. uh, in ancient rome, only uh, transferred to

a global format, you know, that is , zelensky with all these actors. these are precisely the personalities who should entertain and distract at the same time, distract the society from their problems of society. what kind of american society is european society? and at this time they still understand unemployment. the fed is growing , the rates are being raised, the loans are growing wildly, people are being driven out onto the streets, because the banks, uh, have raised loans people can't already pay. yes look at the number of unemployed number of homeless people. how much in america and europe has increased at the same time and do you understand the most important thing? no one is discussing this , only some closed circles or expert groups on finance and economics are discussing, and ordinary people are being told about the brazilian war, that there will be elections, there will be no elections for biden. today something stumbled and did not stumble. this is all a distraction mode, but in reality the situation is much

worse for the american european society in the first place is more terrible in the economy. they don’t all understand that the pace of economic growth has begun to slow down, and they, too, are 10 or 15 years too late in crushing russia, because in china crush the rest of the world, they are beginning to choke, and the whole world is starting to get a little , you know, and gather in integration association brix sco yas, and just sit and watch for a while, when will this huge hegemon, uh, begin to fall from its clay. uh, do it again. here they discussed, uh, a villa, yes, zelensky, which was discovered in egypt is also next to angelina jolie's villa that is the feeling or the elements. here, uh, discussion, you know, throw stuff. look at how everyone is discussing, uh, zelensky’s villa about what uh, in reality,

the problem wasn’t introduced, and it’s not even about where he earned this money on what kind of project? yes, the fact is that people don’t tell people that their problems and their society is connected with a stupid government and stupid corporations. circles that hold the underlying assets. well, that's supported by what you said. well, we are still seeing that the peak of zelensky's popularity as such a batman liberator and defender. as a matter of fact, in europe, the collective west, the cost of books with his biography simply went through the roof and was really popular. today already in quality. memes are published that the price tag has already dropped by about three or four different values, will they exchange this picture of this actor for another in order to, in fact, continue to earn money. here, as alexei says, but with a fresher facade, let's say. ah, again,

well, it’s completely difficult to say here, because there has already been talk about who will be zelensky’s successor. quite a long time ago , in fact, they are not this year. this discussion, uh, started and uh, in fact , they won’t change, we’ll see, it’s difficult to predict. e, ta- so far in advance, here i am, e more interested in the other. will he be alive after he is changed, that is, will they give him? well, sooner or later, huh? will they, in general, allow him to live out his old age without poverty and still be next to angelina jolie ? something like that or or after all? well somewhere we'll find him with a bag over his head. i don't know what it is. as you remember said. one day putin in australia would still be an anus. i have some fear of such a forecast, but in reality we all understand perfectly well

that, uh, the situation that is developing in ukraine, uh, and uh, the future has two scenarios. one scenario is still forcing the entire collective west to peace and uh, signing peace agreements, and the other scenario is that the west is uh not interested in this, because it’s on it making money for them is a business. well , imagine this is the same as stopping, and the ford factory, uh, there at the beginning of the 20th century, which produces forte. well, why should he stop her if she already brings in such money here? ukraine is a factory that brings in huge amounts of money. and it doesn’t matter that in the course of the work of these zhirnov, the destruction of the ukrainian people is taking place. and here, in my opinion, it is important to note that the number of these millstones. while the arms manufacturing enterprise near the ukrainian border is only expanding, they are only just expanding to

the territory of everything. uh, the european union, they are just starting to build. this means that they are preparing to continue this conflict in a protracted manner. we must understand once again to explain to our viewers that those who decide to continue the war in ukraine or, uh, move on to peace negotiations. they do not think in terms of any humanitarian goals or any international agreements. they don't think, they only think about uh one thing. this is the net profit derived from this activity, if this product is weapons, military, equipment brings in the most profit. yes, that's the most important thing, there's another aspect that other investors have. which previously, before that , it was invested in the financial industry in the e-e construction of houses. yes, they tell them, look at this business, it already brings not 3% per annum.

and not even how the fed offers 5,5% there yes, but this business brings 300% yes, and we remember karl marx what he said, he will where where to invest in weapons in poland in ukraine yes please, of course, but everyone understands the higher the yield higher risky and everyone understands perfectly. yes , you can earn big money in a war, and become such, and a thief a lord yes, a military lord, and in the future, the most important thing is to enter political corporate circles. uh, there's this secret government. yes, it will not be about conspiracy theories, but everyone calculates. e. this conflict, if exclusively, er, in dollars, is pure profit and one thinks in financial terms. uh, by the way , uh, if you look, the media, uh, also wrote that the next successor of zelensky

will definitely agree to a truce with russia. but in this situation. i will support aleksey’s position in dolina because i don’t know. well, i also think that money profits decides everything, including these military issues, so well, in general, i am a supporter of such a scenario of the most negative thing that this is a protracted conflict. it's also interesting where you think it is. aleksey has already noted that to a greater extent this conflict is directed against russia and china in order to slow them down, and so on, and many experts assure that, after all, hmm, the main hot conflict will be transferred to the region taiwan, uh, and these , in fact, factories that are now being built on the territory of the european union, they, among other things, will be used in the future in that conflict, what do you think about this move, and just now i am preparing material, uh, with an orientalist, who just recently returned from china told his point of view. maybe she is not very popular

in this regard, but it was also among my questions a question about ukraine. he said that in fact, china does not care about ukraine , what is happening there, but really the chinese also consider profits, and will only do what is beneficial for their economy and what brings them money. and if it is necessary, they will agree with the europeans. e, and. well, and our belarusian approach. we are ready to negotiate with everyone, including to stop this war on our borders. there, we have already suggested this more than once. eh, president. e-e came up with this initiative. e. well, so far, that we have not indicated that we are ready for dialogue. take the first step. on the whole, we have already taken the first step by announcing that we are ready for the dialogue here is largely interested in economic issues. eh, these are stuffing and maybe not even stuffing, but

such investigations. the fact that ukraine is one of the main culprits in undermining the nord stream, and it’s so funny there. it’s all being presented that it was all the military that did this, as if zelensky didn’t know about it, but the west still had some information about it and tried to, uh, prevent such actions. i wonder who they were talking to when they wanted to prevent these actions with the military bypassing the master zelensky but everyone understands this very well that this is an attempt by the west to save a beautiful face when the game is, well, extremely bad, and the entire community still insists on conducting an independent international investigation involving, among other things, other countries in the region, europe because everyone understands perfectly well that europe is located, and in one hundred percent dependence on the usa from great britain on the structures of the north atlantic alliance and therefore, when they say that you know, ukraine is to blame.

yes, this is ukraine made, but we are definitely not we know who did it, but this is an attempt to deceive ourselves, because all the countries of the european union that are in nato understand perfectly well that such an operation could only be carried out by highly qualified, and divers only using extremely expensive high-tech equipment, which is located on armament. not only some kind of ukraine, and not some kind of germany or some kind of poland, but it is in service only with those who themselves develop such equipment from these corporations, and this means either the uk or the usa yes, no one is like that, and they won’t give technological equipment to anyone, but they will use it for one time. you know it all. eh, everything has character. uh, you know that kind of bad joke when they say, you know,

we have a spaceship and we have it. uh, hmm petro who, well, before that, forged, uh, shod horses. let's take it to the spaceship. well, what's the difference, yes, well , no one will use e not professional or non-professional swimmers, but operators for this equipment to train them. it's another 2-3 years. it was necessary to expend money, and if it was trained, then someone would have found out about it, so, of course, most likely they would have used their own. specialists, mmm , no one has used any ukraine , they just blame everything on ukraine because, well, who should they blame it on? she is that subordinate side who will endure everything that zelensky says that it’s not me or zelensky says that these are not my guys. well, three- fourths of the budget. yes, financed from abroad. the most important thing is to understand something else here

is that uh hmm zelensky himself is his all intelligence agencies. they are not something that is not independent, they sit there. e whole. uh, colonel generals. and a rumo e. is this the management of the us department of defense and the cia and mi6 and other intelligence agencies. uh, the country is in 100% control, uh, all operational comedians, and all uh, intelligence analytical units are controlled. xiaomi with special units and therefore, when they say that it was ukraine that suddenly independently carried out such an operation and planned it. but this this is nonsense, this is complete nonsense that they are trying to push into, uh, the community and uh, thereby taking responsibility away from the main players. the main defendants are the united states of america and great britain, if we already say,

why did they do this? yes, well understandable economically. uh, the effects of this uh, hmm explosion, it directly, uh, hits germany by uh, the price of the petrochemical industry increases sharply and as a result, naturally there is a collapse of, uh, the main sectors of the economy of the old uh, old countries of old europe and when we are talking about the purpose of the nato operation in ukraine , is it against russia or against china? no, no. this is completely against europe and the americans themselves are within the framework of this. uh, wounds corporation publications. remember the swedish edition of september 22 , they are open. uh, they publish uh materials from analytical corporations that are related to the cia that the goal in itself of the conflict in ukraine is to resolve german issues. this is to solve the german

question, destroy the german economy , destroy the most powerful technological production, and destroy their science and make so that the scientists from there move to the united states for something successful. this is as they say, they are not even ashamed of this anymore when we talk about who blew up the nord stream. yes, you don’t have to think anything, but the americans and the british blew it up and that’s it. it was in the kunga that the military took power. how recently did this happen in nigeria, why did the military so actively begin to take responsibility for countries on the continent? yes, the most important thing is to explain to our viewers that what is happening now in africa is the worst dream of all colonizers. and why, because the wave of people’s liberation movements began there, they are not savvy with ideas. this is not a coup. this is not a military coup against some political elite. this is not a national conflict

, it is a conflict of the people as a whole, but of one or another african country against the colonialists . in my opinion, to demonstrate how the people support these supposed coups d'etat, that is, everyone comes out to celebrate and the most interesting thing is that all these holidays are accompanied by anti-french slogans colony against the colonizers. yes today the french tomorrow the british. well , actually, power. still, they are taking matters into their own hands in many ways in the territory of the notorious franz of africa, and there are very good synchronizations. uh, one of the french presidents who says that, uh, in my opinion, 50% of france’s budget goes to the territory of africa , there is a rather complex scheme of neo-colonialism, when uh, african states are forced to practically keep them. uh, all your gold reserves and all your income in french banks. and thus. er, 100% depends on where they can spend their resources. listen, well, over the last 450 years of the development

of capitalism, no one has come up with anything new. yes, everything is based on the principle of uneven exchange, everyone has the same labor 24 hours a day, different days. yes, but it costs differently and due to this difference. yes, there africans pay 10 cents , or even don’t pay anything at all, out of fear or for bread, they work there, and everything else is confiscated and flows to the metropolis. yes, everything flows, including physical gold. and the resources there are oil, gas, rare earth metals, and radioactive substances, and at the same time, due to these complex financial schemes through loans. yes, when they talk about you, maybe you need a road? oh let's build a road. well, yes, only for a loan, it ’s just this road in africa in the desert, but no one needs to understand, but everyone has already made money

and due to uh, extremely high interest rates. uh, it is withdrawn, this is surplus value, so uh for our viewers our listeners to you, when they talk about democracy in europe , about freedom of speech, about the fact that the european colonialists are bringing something bright, but for the peoples of africa or for us, the eastern slavs, then you immediately ask. eh, where is the profile? where is the profit? and right away you can easily understand all the nuances of, uh, political and social processes, these positive notes. let's finish, colleagues. thank you very much for your opinion on the air on belarusian radio. uh, the informational-lytic project of the current microphone can now also look at yours on the tv channel belarus 24, the guest was the conversation analyst alexei avdonin, and the journalist,

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