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croc and one not with nature. wild , watchful yelnya belarus hello, are you watching the program tell me, don’t be silent studios victoria popova and tatyana shcherbina and today our guest is the architect and laureate of the state prize of the republic of belarus galina levina hello galina leonidovna, good afternoon. hello galina leonidovna well, you have implemented a lot of architectural projects. among them are the reconstruction of the memorial on
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dzerzhinsky avenue in minsk, the synagogue building in capital memorial signs holocaust victim in minsk bobruisk trostencia blouses and dzerzhinskys but, perhaps, a special story in your life is preserving the memory, and oh, is your father a famous architect leonid or not, and do we understand correctly what he bequeathed to you to bring to mind. here are those memorials. eh, complexes that he started working on, but for various reasons could not finish. thanks for the question. i don't think it's right to speak for broadcast or not? this is rather my decision, because i have seen it throughout my life. no in which he lived uh what he created uh in belarus and not only in the field of architecture and not only, because it seems to me that his architecture is more like that. uh, capacious general human uh, very philosophical character and uh, of course, he didn’t give
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a will. he didn’t write this, but uh, he taught me to read and see the meanings , and i’m grateful to him for that and, of course, these meanings are laid down by him in unfinished projects, not unfinished ones and uh responsibility for what he and we started together must be completed unconditionally. e gave me a boost and strength to continue those works that have not been completed. but you felt something internal, right? the desire to do this. you know it is very difficult to answer these questions. we worked together. we thought together. we breathed together, uh, history and architecture, so for me it was. naturally, what
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you managed to do after he left makes you feel especially proud and not. and the annunciation of the annunciation is this place, which because work on uh, trostenets to perpetuate the creation of the memorial had already been done by uh, 2014 it was as if they were already walking and there was already a bookmark. yes, the part has already been opened. and later they opened it, and in memory of the project of konstantin kostyuchenko and of course, it was very important to do the work and complete it. the last path to the annunciation uh-huh and please explain, these gates of memory, i remember we opened the first part. yes, in the fourteenth year, in the eighteenth year, in the anniversary, what has changed there? as if in this second part, well, in general, in order to understand what, what, what it was. ah, concentration camp. eh,
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trostyanets, for this you need to come there once and second, know the history. this is not uh, here's some traditional place hmm for the investment point of view. well, uh. to the creation of concentration camps by the nazis in the occupied territory in one place, like gateways. let’s say or even khatyn, we see a memorial in one place, because it was the territory of a belarusian village. the trostenets camp was a large territory, and it may not always be perceived. well, who does not know the story. it may not be perceived as a whole, but it is necessary to visit it and study this place. whole estets, where there was the camp itself, checkers and blessings, and
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therefore, i was in awe at that moment. that's when it was made, and the project was a creative team. uh, under the leadership of leonid levin in 2013 , architects took part in this group, kopylov i participated and sculptors. eh, salikhanov shoppo and eh, petrul. uh, what was proposed, in my opinion, is very important and very innovative, even in memorialization. uh, not only in belarus but also in such a european context the last journey was shown, uh, 150,000 people who were there are being updated the prosecutor general's office is very important now. this is very important. we pronounce these numbers because they appeared at that time. although we understand that over the years
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that the prosecutor’s office has been working, including the esterets, the numbers will be hmm, because not only belarusian jews were killed there, but they were brought from germany, this is accurate. i know, yes, and we showed all this, because belarus. i always say the sky has become belarusian. about the last thing that the european jews who came here saw, well, i would also like to especially note one thing from your father's great works. this is a memorial complex to children victims of war in the village, red bank. eh, i first saw a story about him in svetlana borovskaya’s program. good before belarus with svetlana borovskaya. and well, it was impossible to watch the story about how you told her the idea, all the architectural and historical metaphors of this place, without tears. let's see a small fragment. on the black ray
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there is a school board and on it a letter from a fifteen-year-old girl katya with an usanina, her father was looking for. here's what to what text placed on this board. he even turned to the eviction bykov so that he could write, uh, but vasil bykov when he read the letter to katya susanina, which was provided by the museum of the great patriotic war. he said that it would be better if you could write a few words about your mother when you return; he doesn’t look any further for his mother. i want you to go through this yourself, because i’m just afraid to burst into tears, like any normal person, so i read you to myself and ends with my heart believing the letter gives there is always hope. well, we
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we go out on a black beam. we go to the square. yes, the round area is the area of the sun. i’ll probably remind our viewers what kind of place this is. it was a collection point where children were collected in order to take their blood and save wounded germans, but there was more than just blood. eh, collected. there they worked hard and beat them, everything is in this letter to katya susanina. yes, the cries of despair can be read. and how the teenage children worried, this is true. well, such a terrible page of history, mmm, i wanted to ask you a question. why is this compared to hut? moreover , this memorial complex is not so famous above it for the great work of your father, am i right or wrong? yes , you are right, and i am grateful. uh, the fact that you raise this topic and svetlana, uh, with borovskaya did a very subtle and uh story about
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this place, but we must admit that the topic is the fate of a child. children during the war, before the monument was unveiled 16 years ago in 2007, before that time she was not very well. so it was, and at the discussion site they talked more about exploits about exploits. yes, yes torment, and uh leonid levin wrote that there are monuments to military event heroes, uh, personalities, but there was no monument to the children of war, and so this is what he has , uh, a dream to create. eh, such a monument to the memory of children, besides, this is not a monument to children in the camp, it is in the camp. e red beasts. this is the monument to the children of war. uh, whose childhood was taken away from an adult, like uh, did they write and uh, he's very light. they even
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call it a children's khatynyo, and it has a lot of meaning. but all these meanings are sincere, they are from, uh, a children's story, which and i even now, watching the story, i heard it. don't look for amon anymore and your father also lost your mother. every word is every architectural element - this is all a story about childhood about a personal story that is close to many of those who survived the children who survived the war. you once very accurately expressed that your father was the director of a space, uh, telling about the war and it is enough to call the khatyn memorial ensemble. eh, among his work, in principle, there is no need to continue further. eh, well, apparently, a work on a military theme should create exactly those people who have, uh,
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a need for this. eh, because there can be no conjuncture here. and she is delusional. you will agree. yes, i agree, and we are now living in such a turning point, when those, uh, who had these threads are leaving, who have threads with this feeling of war with the feeling of war and, of course, war becomes for the modern generation. it is already acquiring some uh, different meaning and different relationships from the point of view of the story about it, and it is we who will not be able to stop this process, but war is always human destinies. and this always touches people and always wants to be told in any area. when you work somewhere, you can always tell through human destinies through events, uh, in cinema, in painting, in
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literature. here we are faced with this question. yes, art is important, that when they themselves are no longer the bearer or witnesses of some event, they try to create a work on a topic that they know poorly or know from textbooks or, uh, in communication they know how i always have a complaint about the patriotic songs that appear today, but not for the soul touch. if you can’t compare it with those that were written by witnesses, then, well, is it even worth taking on this topic? here is such a nuance, if you haven’t felt whether you can, whether you have a moral no, still there should be writing in this. be with need. i think that at the school level these may be some kind of tasks. and when the child is already at school age with them. uh, well, it’s kind of a convention to tell about the history of a tree that grows, uh, at
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my great-grandmother’s in the village or somewhere near the house. maybe she saw this tree. uh, was a participant in some events and uh, then it’s just a necessity. it seems to me that this is such a sensual and uh, touching theme that they are real artists , one way or another, they can approach it in life. well, you are working now. yes , you still have your father’s workshop, but the guys, you know all the young people , among them there are those who sincerely put their soul into it, uh, those real artists who but everything passes. eh, as he wrote, father. give it time, you will understand everything, everything must pass the test of time. here it seems to me interesting work related to khatyn swaddling. eh, the war is also about our belarusian artist, who was exhibited in
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the national archives as part of the 80th anniversary of the destruction of khatyn, there are such themes. and they , by the way, i watch with great interest how they talk about the war, because khatyn was ahead of its time and it remained modern in architecture, uh, burned villages telling about the tragedy. it's not so simple as to remain in memory space. constantly, but uh, these are the significant things like come and see, if we talk about cinema about our cinema, if we we say schindler's list to the world, and the boy in striped pajamas are these uh world uh films that remain uh, such beacons of memory of khatyn - this is my memory. and uh, red beach lighthouse memory they powerfully declare
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uh about what happened in belarus during the occupation during the war, in general, in fact, it’s some kind of uh it’s difficult to explain, because if there was a recipe, then films would be created and books would be written, and much more would happen, and apparently there is no need for this, because now some kind of society appears. suddenly wakes up. here each time 50 years have passed more than 50 since creation. eh ha ha ha khatyn openings and every time we come there, and we wake up from what was happening, now we wake up from opening our eyes in our modern life. what happened? and not only us, what always makes me happy is the earth as foreign citizens. yes, delegations continue to come to khatyn and a leaves from there with tears and a heavy heart. her, too, as you exactly said
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, they wake up and remember yes, the events that happened yesterday, one might say on the territory of belarus, i didn’t know about them, let them know and know thanks to desire, but this is the power of art, because uh, if the city in zankovich levin had not been created by the team of authors, if they had not won the creation competitions, it must be said that the boys were young, young, and the father was 30 years old, yes, 33, when they received the award, they received 33, a and this may be to honor such a long period of time of work on this; for me, this is generally amazing, because these are young brave people, at that time work was going on on the brest fortress. mytras and sculptors and architects worked there
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in parallel, your father in parallel to vdnh upset here in parallel and they did a lot at that time, it doesn’t mean that they were a competition, it was in non-working hours, and uh, for me it’s generally, well, such a great subject of study, constant youth, time e architectural thinking, which during this period of socialist realism. eh, how everything would turn upside down the topic that is so told, because they didn’t talk about the burned villages. and let 's listen to your father directly an excerpt from the documentary monologue leonid levin architects in which you spoke one of the authors. personally, i did not have a childhood, because we are children of war, and they stole from us this childhood was stolen, it was so generously stolen. we all didn’t know what candy was. we don't know what mama is, we didn't know what sugar is, we don't know what bread is. we did not know what joy is, but i will tell you
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that apparently i was born under some kind of star of my own, and this is a star. wore it to me or gave it to me or gave it to me or surrounded me? good people. these people were. always near or around me starting when my mother died in during the war, as a child, i was taken in by another woman who became my mother. this is also the post-war period, when i returned to minsk with my father, who fought and surrounded me with his love, as i think katkov sergey petrovich is an artist who pulled me into this hobby. this is the call of the soul and so on. this
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is my family, my wife. which also the architect understands me, everything is next to me. this is my daughter, who is also an architect. this is my son-in-law, who is also an architect. i have a dog. no, i said that i was also an architect, that’s why. well, this phrase sounded at the beginning of this fragment. personally , i didn’t have a childhood. maybe this is where there is such a reverent attitude to this topic, complete in not immersing, of course, the origins and skin is the loss of a mother and the loss of a grandmother and childhood. we even have letters where dad writes to his dad at the front.
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uh, i learned to read and write myself, and now i’m without tears, i can’t always read them, because i understand that for the boy, uh, who stayed here, uh, they were refugees near frunze in the karabalts in the village with all the same all women women, grandmothers, aunts, sisters. uh, and, that is, only women. and how important it was for him to write this. as we communicate now , we can either by phone or write or call, and then he had to study on his own in order to write to dad. here are some words for the front. this is a very touching story, but i must say that he retained his love for the pistol genre. then he wrote letters. and we read them to you. they are also very touching, where he says that he would like your childhood to be happy and not as difficult as his and me
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i think you were doing an exhibition. yes, something like double love, and it was a success. it seems to me that it makes sense to repeat it while we take a short break, i remind you, we have a telegram channel. say be quiet. subscribe , ask questions and suggest guests we are in touch. the distortion program is on air again , keep quiet. and today our guest architect galina levina galina leonidovna would like to remind you of a small excerpt from the poem three trees left love on earth, inextinguishable daughter galya of goodness for zhenya , a peak of peaks and khatyn numb in the distance these are your father's lines and a collection of moments. you acknowledged that your father was a good teacher. and he sometimes told you not to demagnetize. today i often have to say these words to myself. yes, this is
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my favorite word, and i love it very much. and i myself often say e colleague. i am demagnetized, but there is some kind of it. in my opinion, there is great meaning in this word. and especially when some, well, we work on topics all the time. e decision making in creative, that is, any. uh, it can only demagnetize, uh interfere with the creative process, yes, and that’s what it’s all about. i will remember even his gestures when he told me this magnetism. and what can you drink the ground from under your feet to knock down this course in the direction that you chose there in the process, yes, you are going, but such a question is very , uh, personal, which you don’t even really want to answer. we must not allow ourselves to do so. show these fills here. although this, of course, is not easy to do, because after all, our
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work as architects is very serious , responsible, and working on memorials. this not only architectural design, because it’s important to me and uh, and i take this very seriously with respect and responsibility to work for whom the monument is being made, because memorial monuments are being created. there are people there in specific cities. there are schools there. there are museums there. and this is important, as far as contacts with them are concerned, how important and necessary it is for them. but of course, there are moments that knock you out of the rut, but not out of the saddle, but attempts to rewrite history. they're insulting you. it seems to me that we should work more in different areas to study and talk about war about events, and not to miss this
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continuity, which was started by generations of our parents and witnesses. and it should be, uh, a natural process. although what is in my opinion is very important, what is now. here are the required ones. the baptism of their atyn and other memorials you mean for schoolchildren for schoolchildren, and for young people, because uh, of course, their parents may have missed some point in the story, but it needs to be studied and written , you feel that they missed . is there some action. yes there is i feel like u missed. uh. i think that, of course we all strive for a happy modern life. this is natural, but knowledge and study of history is
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part of a modern happy life. and uh, the work in architecture to create these memorials is worthy, telling about, and the events of the great patriotic war on the territory of belarus, it tells about belarus, uh, for those outside its borders. this is also a lot of work that needs to be done. sincerely and professionally open just a conclusion. you say you need to look for new forms. recently listened to our guest one of the political scientist. vadima gigin. he says we need to look for new forms. we froze somewhat in some way then 100 years ago treplev said we must look for new forms. and what is behind this phrase , but for me, for example, e. still,
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as a professional, everyone works in their own profession and makes films and creates. even now, i know i'm out. eh, multi- about the minsk ghetto yeah, that is, there are modern forms for young people to talk about you know what, let’s say. i see, let's say the danger is that the modern youth. yes, children have a slightly different way of thinking; they are already so clip-like, and they are used to what was shown in this. they showed a film about her and what is happening is not related to the fact that it is based on real events. it’s just some kind of story, that is, well, a little superficial or something, and such an attitude. uh, they don't feel it deeply , and to them, it's just the plot of some movie. i agree, but for that, uh, visiting places is important. uh, the designation of these places uh to do
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it is also worthy, so that the next generation i saw it. e that our generation perpetuated the memory. eh, worthy. here i will allow myself, uh, to criticize a little this also concerns the texts on monuments, so that they do not rust , so that the letters do not fall off, so that those who, well , 10 years later, see that yes, and 10 years ago, the people who erected monuments did it sincerely and worthy of september 10th. we will celebrate the international day of remembrance for victims of fascism. and again. we are confident in the khatyn memorial complex, people will go there, and the symbolic significance of this place. the president spoke when he was on subbotnik. but just in time for the question, probably, they heard your criticism there in general. order is now maintained. yes, some kind of reconstruction was carried out
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, new alleys were planted, and the museum was opened openly. uh church. yes, uh, in general, a lot is being done. and here is the president’s quote, the symbolism is that today we have given a start to the renovation of this monument and we agree with its revival. you with this wording that today you don’t have to worry about the fact that khatyn will be looked after in the khatyn complex in memory of the tragedy, forever and a memorial hmm outside time. eternal yes, he is an open-air memorial museum. it was created as an open-air museum, so i have no doubt that khatyn will live forever and it is very important to continue to preserve the memorials. and those who perform performers?
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professional performers, builders , architects, they treated with care the ideas conceived by the architect of that time , this does not apply. uh, the ideas, the idea, the reconstruction is correct, it is needed and it was carried out , we understand that it is no longer enough for the modern generation to come just to see, but a memorial they need, uh, more document document . well, this time, this time, every time will introduce its own nuances, in understanding what has been created, but we are talking about works of art. we are talking about the eternal
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values of memory and they should be treated. this is the gold fund. uh khatyn golden background uh, architecture. but you said that young people are needed. i gave her interactive cartoons, texts of the document, but still , nothing works better than the silence of this alarm. this is absolutely true. is it true. this minute is the minute when the children come with their parents even this more important than they come with classes, and then they go badly. and you and not only along the main road, along the main village road, but bypass the forests. uh, this is very important. this is what will shape. this is a moment of silence with parents in a family with grandparents. you said yourself that your father was ahead of his time, maybe you should accept that you know, that's what's happening now. well , because it is already conceived by him, we are
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dealing with art. it remains for centuries, but he taught you. vitya is running out of time. you. well learned or difficult time will show. e. i think that this is a lot, that we are doing it, but is it ahead of time this year, you went to dzerzhinsk where work on the memorial is being completed. let me remind you in october 1941 at the site of the destruction of the koidan gett . there, in two and a half hours , 1,900 jews were killed, the architects of the monument, you and alexander kopylov, sculptor alexander shapopo. and what do you say, that skeptic who is urged not to disturb the wounds, if we are talking about those who question. it is very important to come to belarus to visit these places, so any stone in place, uh, which is now uh in those places where the prosecutor works, the prosecutor general's office, new places are opening, any
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memorial sign, small big, and it is very important for people to come and see, and this is the memory so hmm naturally, woven into modern life. and uh, it’s important to understand that this is not the past that we leave behind and live modern life. this is modern life. uh, soup with knowledge of the past. we must talk about what happened in belarus, but er ask ourselves question. how much do we know about kolovlyut, a village burned in greece? how much do we know, huh? the burned village in france is why, uh, this path is such a very way of studying the preservation of memory, and the fate of people about our relatives, it is very deep and capacious and it
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cannot end only at school. i am convinced that this is the path that we go through. a person goes through his whole life. you just need to look at it not as a textbook. e. left somewhere in the attic in the country or left somewhere else. and what accompanies us. oh every day it's knowledge. this level of education is a level. e modern thinking to know what happened here, we are meeting, just the day of knowledge on september 1st. e, and you, i know , are invited to the school and will perform in front of e school audiences, and try to convey to them. i am sure that this is not your first meeting with schoolchildren. they hear i am very grateful, because for many years i have been invited to the day of knowledge at school
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, and this year i was also invited to one of the minsk schools. and of course it's money, yes, such a very exciting for everyone and for parents and for children and for family members. eh, the first day he can’t. but communication with schoolchildren is very important for me, because it is with students, because it gives me a lot more so that i understand how in architecture. what words to look for so that the youth can feel what it is to know to feel and in the future, uh , keep this memory, that is, informally only here, but in order for this to be, naturally note that they feel they heard useful meetings for you. i understand why but for them
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do you know that i'm listening or not? i for myself , uh, determined it to be so important, too, uh. process with the guys you need to meet more than once, but with them. it is necessary to be with them for some time to give them time for them to think it over completely. yes, perhaps some questions of development appear . it is impossible to tell this essence in an hour . it is impossible to tell about khatyn in 45 minutes. and uh tell with such uh schemes it's hmm i 'm it it's impossible. although now on mine look, it's a very important time. uh, word search. that's how we heard leonid levin told the war in words, and in architecture it is also very important to look. this is your word about war
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. and here i remembered, remember lunkina mom really made such a monologue for 2 hours talking about the war about her childhood. she was just telling it like she would tell it to her neighbors. these were millions of views. so, when i asked you about new forms, we always want to come up with something like that. yes, that’s extraordinary, how are you with this film about father, yes, the director and had complaints that it was too simple, or maybe, that's it. yes, simple human communication today is the same new form that children have already lost the habit of. yes, here is silence and a sincerely human story monologue silence monologue, strange as it may seem, it becomes such an important powerful capacious storyteller, but military history. because they heard it from
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their grandmother or great-grandmother. they didn’t tell it from the stands. they told me somewhere, when they had lunch there, uh, i cooked in the kitchen. she was telling. here we are made from potatoes, cooked from potatoes from potatoes. it was collected. that is, these are also such nuances. uh, the setting of the place where children first learn about the war. let's take a short break now, after a short pause, we will return to this studio again, while subscribe to our telegram channel. say, do not be silent, and look for all our releases on youtube channel belarus 1. on the air say again, do not be silent, and architect galina levina is our guest and we know that you would like to make a memorial workshop for your father.
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there is one on victory square on round for you and there is also one on sukhoi there. tell us what the difference is and how the idea is progressing. in general , fix it. this is also in the city. and we even made such a map of the places of minsk associated with e, memory, associated with the work of leonid livina, and i want to thank you. uh, the mindar executive committee for the decision that a street in minsk was named after leonid levin, but on victory square it’s round for me, because it was always a round square guarded knows minsk uh, there uh, huts of a creative group were created. and there father worked until e, the last days of his life, a memorial was created there. uh, a pit monument in the red bank.
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uh, the reconstruction of yakub kolas square and many other projects for minsk and for belarus and of course, this place is creatively praying, because there were a lot of famous cultural figures, uh public political figures of belarus and not only and uh, i see that this is of great interest. causes interest. and uh those who come there because we saved we didn't change anything and uh people can come to see how his desk was, how the folders were laid out, what leonid mendovich was working on, to see what books lay on his circle of interests? but of course, the original sketches are there. and for this you can take uh, i hope, of course, this is not only my decision, this is the decision of the city. and i really hope that this will be
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a very interesting location. i would even name the azbur house-museum, but it’s in the city of minsk. why not variety? yes life, yes and he is like that and uh, a lot of materials on uh the historical center of minsk development construction because my father in the eighties headed the uh workshop of the city center development project so, uh, i protect it, like such belarusian, uh, architecture and culture. because i understand that sooner or later this will be in demand and important. this can be preserved for as long as possible and not demagnetized. let 's listen again to leonid mendovich to live all the time with his head turned back. we must live with our heads turned forward. and now the whole
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head is turned forward. and you look forward. you, too, should see the future as bright. but if you keep your head turned back all the time, you won’t do anything. you will remain where you are. agree with the father, especially. e, realizing that he survived the war, having lost his mother, he came out of this military history as a very kind person. he became an architect. he not only built a city , he created not only memorials, but he also created. he also opened posts of mutual understanding. eh, this pain e belarus military pain in belarus e. for those who did not feel e did not know what could be happening here
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on the e territory of belarus therefore, but this e humanism of his open dialogue uh, belt, uh, ways to preserve peace is a very important lesson for me and uh, the creation of the reconstruction of the historical workshop named after leonid livin, which is located on sukhaya street 25, the project that we developed , and it is very important for the world to know what happened. forty-first in forty-five we will take in years on the territory of belarus e, including the 80th anniversary of the minsk ghetto this year, and this center, which will be created, which will reconstruct the historical building. it is in my opinion. same. there is
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a lot of controversy in minsk about weddings there, and the new buildings are old. remember when new hotels appear. this is simply a tragedy for the old residents of minsk and a great joy for young people, because this is a good location for instagram photos. how do you feel about the new development? that's when vdnkh was demolished. yes, and now there is a hotel there that my father designed. i'm going to the hotel now, i need to get sick. yes, uh, vdnkh me and i have my point of view. i you understand, it’s not about demolition, if you need to develop, e territory, if you need a city to develop, we all understand this, but the question is, how to treat what is on this site can be demolished, but you can find the possibility of architectural solutions of the means to be included in the new development concept. eh,
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the city and the ease of demolition and creation of a new one. maybe later it will turn out that there will be no memory, a place of memory, so, uh, i really like it when in the old ones there is a smilovich. i love it. eh, some kind of gluska there, uh, places in which at least it persists. i'm always good but at least save a little street so that they can love. we it seems to me that it is important to love. past and dream and love e future us was recently vladimir ivanovich prokoptsov, former director of the national art museum. he said that it would be nice to have a chagall quarter. yes, this was also your father’s dream and this project and investors survived.
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he found some crazy millions there, yes, that, but unfortunately , it was not realized, but it is important that we create a dream for someone and it is important that what is left for us, if someone i left my dream, it holds us back very much , just like this story of minsk. well, i still think it was a mistake. it was the sixties, the architecture is very significant and certainly. the further we are moved away from that time, the more we will regret that such a unique modern object, also ahead of its time , was demolished at that time and i immediately remember the film for family reasons. remember, hurry up, draw old moscow and go. write quickly , there is also a project. like similar. yes you, but uh, no one told me to hurry up. yeah,
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she did it, and, of course, the journey. i always draw belarus. uh-huh and so and this is a lot of drawings made by the eighties. the exhibition is called uh, the city is written in steps in reverse perspective, and she has already traveled through it was you carats, it was opened many years ago. uh, at the haima sutina museum. in smilovichi she was great and she was the last. uh, in the museum in the gallery in zhodino, she was in slutsk, uh, in a hoof. here you are, the golden youth calendar, you grew up in minsk in such a family. uh, you communicated with such people, but what you write about the province is that you love it. where does this love come from? you ask very difficult questions.
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because when you start looking for the answer, you realize that everything is so complicated, so much i love i will fall in love, maybe for this silence uh-huh and for this for this uh, natural uh, conversation with local residents, and uh, in a week i have an exhibition opens in the background in the local history museum, also a place that is very important to me, because together with the architect alexander kopylov maxim petrul the sculptor. well, we created a monument there at the site of the extermination of jews on december 2, 1941, 3,000. uh, the jews, in the wilderness, were destroyed, probably, in the maslochanskaya mountain. and uh, it's also important for me to present my work and creativity. eh, there are portraits of gluz houses. i made large syria portraits
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of houses. even in the way you are, this is called love, and that is something that cannot be expressed in architecture. in painting you can sometimes express in poetry what place it occupies in your life, but in every hour it is in every minute in every breath. uh, because after all, hmm, we have this, apparently , hereditary feature of architecture, it is based on literature, not on music, as is commonly believed, no, on music on music. this , apparently, depends on those who hear ; after all, literature in architecture is also important for me, because it should generate. especially in memorial works. she must wait for the feeling. hmm, these are some moments that should touch the surrender of questions. and so, of course, we, uh, even in dzerzhinsk, about whom you said, we took such steps
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memory, that is, every step. he conscious every step you come up with. how to the place of destruction, do you still see silhouettes of people, skirts, hats, the torah is visible, a woman is visible , a man is the next step, when you are already at the border, pits, where to shoot them? you turn and you see, cropped, uh, such a silhouette, that is, a war that, uh, erases, erases and cuts life before and after, so, of course, when reading history, we look for documents. well, naturally, it turns out. yes, you are right, the literary narrative is from the point. and yes to the point before that is we we tell a story, yes, and this also applies to the synagogue in minsk. this also tells a story. uh, and that's any building we make. it's history. we congratulate
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you on the past beautiful anniversary, which you are in june. they answered and wish you, of course, leonid wore, so that you have a smile, your charming and not demagnetized. and they went forward. as your great father taught you, i will not be afraid of this word, and we are unconditionally grateful to you and your family for what i believe, well, those objects that you do he did certainly glorified. belarus is better than texts, better than literature, or sometimes. thanks for this conversation. thank you tatyana shcherbina victoria popova we say goodbye to you for today. goodbye. goodbye. and now galina levina speaks, dear friends of wisdom. the happiness of silence in your every day
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interesting thing according to statistics. what impression does a person have when visiting our country for the first time? when i arrived in belarus, i saw that the sky was very strong and the water is very clean the air the air is very good and the people are kind and the girl is very beautiful. i especially love belarus in the spring, when the chestnuts bloom, when yellow rapeseed blooms along the roads, and this is the yellow sea. she is simply mesmerizing. i found out that belarus has good teachers, all the good ones, so i want to study here and after 3 years
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