selmash with the kuban a combine plant have already calculated how much more economically it is. what, for example, we expect to buy to collect . yes, that is, here we are, for example, uh, eight, there is always one harvester in the car. yes, if we bring her car in sets. here we see, this is an already assembled harvester. this is a disassembled header, right? that is, in principle, there are already four headers in one machine, respectively, at each grain harvest frying. this savings is somewhere up to 120,000 russian rubles. that is. well, in principle, for each client - this is for our consumer. well, this is tangible, as if help. where are the belarusians who help. here they are. this is evgenia. this is the head of the collection of the central committee, too . they sent here. they have been with us for the second week now, telling us and explaining the state of the girl's man so far according to our roadmap by the end of the twenty-sixth

year. there must be 40 people somewhere. everything belorusskaya is not shy, while we are learning to install a straw chopper, an inclined chamber, conveyor belts. lighting for the enterprise is only 2 months in full, which has uh. well, if welding has changed subtly and welding is such a process, you know, specialized specific multi-control points need to be monitored among the welding modes so that there are no effects of structural breakdowns of 50 combines, 50 compressions after a couple of years plans to reach the ground for 300 combines, additionally build a range of lapping and there will be a shop and an exhibition center. well, as it were , such prospects are now one of the main selling points. these are spare parts and maintenance of equipment, because the equipment is running out. warranty period and still needs to be serviced. that's why we work. at the harvesting

of grain, but also the main producer of rice 100,000 hectares is sown this year , the forces of the consulmash will also be thrown into harvesting. kuban region. uh, in recent years, i have been very concerned about attracting equipment to myself, not just buying it in belarus, but carrying out some kind of final assembly here in the russian region . these projects fall under this project. e within the framework of regional subsidies. these subsidies help support all manufacturers of kuban agricultural machinery, but also including those that assemble this equipment, either on a belarusian chassis, like these grain carriers that we are trying to organize the assembly and signal samples can already be seen at this exhibition, and tractors that have been assembled for more than a year or combine harvesters , which we are also establishing now and again signal samples. you can

see it at this exhibition. by the way, you have seen how rice grows and heard. such a word as checks is a network of large-scale hydraulic structures for growing rice. fields growing in water are irrigated by a complex reclamation system of thousands of kilometers of a canal rubber caterpillar, a five-meter harvester, uh, the engine is installed by the minsk motor plant. the machine is almost 90% localized in the republic of belarus e, also in the plans of our plant kz. kuban also produces these mowers. my grandfather, he comes from the gomel region, vetka district, the village of tarasovka, so you see, my whole life. it is associated with belarus with harvesters. belarus, plus i myself come from belarus, i can say i've been yes visited and found our grandfather's village. that is , as if, well, of course, the house was not preserved, but as if the heart felt it anyway.

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who are with us today, our studios are the most interesting interlocutors, experienced diplomats. now the deputy head of the commission of international andrey svinykh, as well as political scientist alexei german, also today a russian intelligence officer in the past, today professor gimo andrey bezrukov, will get in touch with us today, in a word , a great opportunity to talk about events and meanings, but let's start. peaceful ways for ukraine, but at the last anti-brix itself , this was discussed. only now, it seems that in kiev they are setting up for a long war. listen for yourself. uh-huh israel goodbye, wine, we are ready people. oh, it will be possible, but

there is no minimizing the victims, israel, i said it can also be possible for russia, well, great ryzy , why exactly for my most? well, look at this it would seem a small fragment. and how much man said no negotiations for you and tune in to a long war, this was also said. should the war go to the territory of russia, you and i understand that such an interview is usually not spontaneous, and something tells me that in this particular case there was no spontaneity, in general, what are andrey vladimirovich zelensky ready for in this case, the ukrainian population of ukrainian spectators. well, first of all, one important point must be taken into account. uh, the ukrainian leadership does not make any decisions, it is completely under the control of external control centers, these external centers need

a war in order to deplete russia in order to ideally bring it to some kind of difficult economic political period , whatever, uh, well, let's not forget that russia is not the direction of the main strike, the main conflict of the 21st century, it's still a conflict with china, but another question, which i think he wishes for real. well, the war won't last long. and here you need to understand one more simply important point - the current leadership, realizing that ukraine will not win , it will simply take time in order to get additional income and solve some of their issues, but obviously they are not interested in regulating the situation, not in securing a future for the ukrainian people. and this is really a tragedy ivanovich. well, it seems to me that

we will really say the conditions for maintaining power for zelensky. so the team is the continuation of this war, because in a different e different mode. yes, questions will arise. still , the pro-efficiency of the management of the same army about how much ukraine became dependent and lost sovereignty, and these questions will be asked, like e. the mothers of the dead will also ask questions. and why were these meat assaults? yes, which ended in nothing and so on. this is a cumulative effect. sooner or later, this will affect specifically zelensky and, in principle, all the power configuration that exists there, but for now they are in the zombie state. that is , when it is encoded by external, let's say , players, this can continue for quite a long time. but we all know that sooner or later these zombies run out of any power. yes, and we see that this moment is already

approaching, because, well, obviously not enough, not even just weapons. and as a matter of fact, some kind of morale and fighting spirit . hmm, so they want to stretch it out as long as possible. this is a pleasure in quotation marks, especially western states that make business on this, but this is not will last a long time and we will have to think about a different format of interaction, also for russia well, we have already understood that zelensky is the president of the war , there are no doubts, there are no longer any doubts on this score, and there are in some ukraine well, not for this people, there are politicians of force who are capable of propose and most importantly implement. here is another alternative. let's just say a certain peaceful option or variant. this war with the possibility of escaping the collapse that is still looming on the horizon of ukraine i think that these forces are, of course, there, but deep inside. yes because now they are under the pressure

of terror, and it is difficult for them to declare any position, even if it is neutral. yes, at least hmm not to mention there to take into account the interests of neighbors in belarus, russia, but everything can change, because today ukraine is not so independent as to completely clean up the entire field. yes, we all understand that politicians of various kinds can come to the west as well. yes , who will say, well, that's enough, probably, this is such a frantic war. let's listen to these, that is, maybe this is the lord of course, a small comment. we still have to give ourselves back, uh, in the essence of the ukrainian government. that is, this is a totalitarian system that completely destroyed all poly opponents, it is clear that 80 % of the population of ukraine may not support this course, but the interests of the people are realized only if there is an organizational tool

political party, leader, and so these parties and leaders in ukraine is simply eliminated. and so it is impossible to wait for any change. remember uh germany there was anti-anti-hitler underground, but political parties began to form the organization of society only after the red army came there. yeah, i think it will be the same here, their dependence on , let's say, partners, these zelenskys are well aware, but they know how to play this role, as it were, it looks like he is ready from the game to the end in the same interview with which we started today he corrects himself and says that they say victory victory over russia will not be ours, but our partners who are given to us from the eyebrow, that is, he is to the last here still gives due that here without them there are two points. eh, alekseevich correctly said the point is

that ukraine can no longer resist. well, really, that is, it survives solely on the financial and military support of western countries, if suddenly for some reason this support would stop. uh, the war would be over within a week at the most. well , let's then partners and talk everything you need to know about the high relations of kiev and the washingtons in a peculiar way admonished zelensky american guests you must win so that we do not lose the group senators arrived in kiev to personally congratulate zelensky on a holiday that hardly has anything to do with today's ukraine independence day, senator lindsey graham judging by the tone, he actually ordered his friend voloder to hold elections in 2024. and she declared the need for victories to the all, at the front further. i will read slowly. and you think about it so the words of graham you must win a war that we cannot afford to lose. that is, it turns out that thousands of ukrainian guys die for the sake of uncle sam's victory

, but now he is a senator in addition, that oh what you said, that is, they will not let him, let's say, leave the game, yes, but i would be here. here i would repeat this wording again just half a year ago. this is categorically denied, but in reality the conflict in ukraine is not a conflict between russia and ukraine , this is a conflict between the national state of russia and the owners of transnational financial corporations. devices usa uk and eu and leads. war and this is a very important point and look how interesting they are now turning. closer to the elections, everyone is coming closer to the ukrainian elections, including senators graham says that it is impossible to cancel the choice not for the elections, and in the same interview that we already talked about today, he makes

it clear in such a very cunning way in his usual manner that i will not hand over the money allocated for weapons in order to spend them on elections. that is, he understands that the chair is rocking very seriously, of course. moreover, he can earn money on weapons from his colleagues and from that same financial oligarch. this this favorably, to be honest, pushes him to the polls then. but still, it seems to me, there is a certain desire for the western. elite to build a framework for zelensky we see that he periodically breaks down and begins to blame their claims to present a malor. few weapons, little money, here, and here it is, well, in general, hard formatting, if they have accepted. to perform green ritual actions under the guise of elections, then they need to be performed and , accordingly, the conditions must be met in order to receive the next portion, money is a weapon, that is, they are kept in the mode management. and naturally. uh, the elite in

kiev would like under the guise of war. uh, the introduction of martial law to cancel all elections and further toughen that totalitarian regime. yes, so that there weren’t any at all, but opportunities to somehow move this power. they stayed there, if not forever, then for as long as they were supposed to be there, so this is a struggle, including for control. yes, so that they are more obedient ukrainian politicians specifically zelensky well, so that the american senators are representatives of the oligarchs. still were confident in the right investment of their money. me here i completely agree with this assessment. here i would simply add one such aspect, the thing is that they are western. the elites, they are used to the show, they have long turned the election process into a definite showcracy, there is even a term. as a matter of fact, western researchers have countries after democracy. democratic processes have already been emasculated there and replaced by

certain ones, so to speak, ritual ritual is a very good word or series said the same thing here . uh, the ukrainian authorities say why will we be hypocritical? let's cancel elections , so to speak, this is a more radical position. and they say no, let's do it beautifully. let's just falsify them, but you mean that there will be no free , honest elections that could move this government at least one iota, neither in the first nor in the second case of rotation, instead of zelensky , there will be three chances. uh, again in washington , uh, again, clearly not in a democratic way, but for reasons of expediency, if zelensky will work out quite effectively the tasks that come from there and replace him. well, uh, from the fact that for us an important mood signal. uh, at least this auto-training for the ukrainian population, which zelensky voiced during the long

war, this signal for us that we should not reduce the degree of our combat readiness is one of the factors of our security. well, probably along with the fact that we have tactical weapons. this, of course, is those joint actions that our military is taking together with a dude, and but we saw that after the death of prigozhin, there was a lot of speculation about the fate of the wagnerites on our territory and alexander lukashenko dotted everything and i propose to listen to this issue, then we will discuss this topic, too, he lived importantly and wagner will live in belarus no matter how much someone would not like it, we still lined up with prigogine and systems. how will we have the vagne and these pictures from space that we are dismantling something? why are we removing extra tents, we don't need so many of these tents. so much is not needed here remains the core. uh, someone went on vacation. uh, someone, uh, in general,

decided to live on the sidelines, but phone numbers, addresses , turnout passwords. in this headquarters in this core are known within a few days everyone will be here up to 10,000 people. now there is no need to keep them, so they do not run anywhere as much as we need, and i will not live and work here for this unit. yes alexei cook, i have this question hmm and for whom in the first place alexander lukashenko that's all. eh, he says. to whom do you think these words are addressed? hmm, but it seems to me that there is an internal recipient of this information , both externally and internally. probably, if we are talking about the union space , there are also many questions in russia about what will happen to wagner after the tragic death of the leadership. and, of course, they are closely following the fate of these people in our western

direction in poland, especially. yes, for them this is just an existential factor. i watch as a result of the elections. i think it even depends on where you move. wagner is there, in which part of belarus, of course, this is also manipulation. they sell fear. they sell threats to their population. yes, and on this they are trying to raise the rating of the ruling party. and by the way, it turns out, yes, because they know how to intimidate after all. here, well, in fact , the president, as always, in such a not manner , dots everything. that is, these people will help our army. they will perform certain tasks that we will need, but naturally, we are not planning aggressive actions, but we see perfectly what is happening there and therefore , uh, such a formation, as one of tools are far from superfluous, especially in the conditions of these hybrid conflicts, when it is not clear who can penetrate the territory, when the state disowns some, say, military formations

very often and we see this happening all over the world, therefore, i think that us these people will be useful some of them will actually work with us. well, some of it is optional. uh, also contracts are different, including in africa, but if necessary, we heard, they can be collected. we are very fast. yes, i absolutely agree with this approach. and here i just highlighted the main point. why the death of the leader wagner will not affect the effectiveness of the organization , the thing is that, like any institution of the pmc, it is organized in such a way that one person, escaping and disappearing, does not break the entire organizational team structure. this is always thought through, always done, and therefore, beyond any doubt, the wagner pmc will continue to function as efficiently without prigozhin, the second moment that needs to be determined. i think it's important though

emphasize. although this moment may be painful even for the belarusian society , the thing is that, well, we are not ready to actively defend our homeland. i get asked this question very often in the classrooms. we are ready to take up arms to defend our country. army, yes , and the president must be given credit for doing. everything possible goes to any steps in order to prevent an open armed conflict along the perimeter of our border, thereby saving both the population and society. remember in your time. he asked the question that sovereignty is worth a lot we are ready to pay for this sovereignty. here's the question today. eh, the meaning of this question is beginning to be fully revealed e and the appearance in our country of both tactical nuclear weapons and warner pmcs are, in fact, measures that are aimed at

making any conflict in god our borders impossible. pmc wagner plays a very important role here. why because it's 10,000 people who have gone through real battle clashes. they are worth much more than uh, they took the entire baltic army and half polish. and this means that their appearance here balances the offensive potential of the defense and, in principle, makes any adventures. in this direction, meaningless. we said, but i need to say college, we touched on the topic of dude wagner, i understand perfectly well, then the number of versions of the reasons for this plane crash, which, well, happened suddenly and for many it was a shock of confusion, but for someone it became a reason for in order to carry out their special psychological operations, but nevertheless, no matter how not to touch on this topic not possible in all versions. which one seems most plausible to you, if you follow

the logic, who benefits from alexei valerievich , do you have any? mentally, this account is the first thing i will say is the most implausible version. it seems to me, after all, the version of involvement, of the russian leadership itself, firstly, because there is no longer such a need. yes, all these events with the rebellion left. and prigozhin has already built himself into some kind of new system of relations. basically. it would satisfy. it seems to me that the authorities in russia and this is the first. that is, i do not see such a rational motivation or some other one in order for it to be here according to this version, but there are other versions, at least. yes, this is not the most exotic, but the version with wagner's activity in africa still seems interesting, and we know that there is such an interesting france there with very old traditions. here are similar colonial

colonial traditions, including massacres, that's over. smart people over others yes, this is the version. here she is. it seems to me that this is quite interesting, the second is, of course, we do not know, while the details investigation. but what is surfacing now is that this bomb was probably planted on earth. yes, the fact that some kind of employee was bribed, or was there a technical one or not? this suggests that all the same, the agents, for example, ukrainian, that operate there, they are very active. this, too, cannot be discarded, discarded, plus in the same place, perhaps, a comprehensive, let's say, approach. yes, that is, the western intelligence service takes ukrainian in a row, their interests coincide and they are engaged in similar actions, therefore, to me it seems that we still need to look for a foreign trace in connection with the very great danger of wagner both in ukraine and, for example, in africa. i agree with these assessments. i won't even guess. which version is correct. eh

why? because the answer to this question should be given by the investigation, but it is important, i want to emphasize. uh, another point is that this death did not lead to a decrease in the defense potential, not the pmc, neither russia nor belarus, this will not be a negative consequence of any complication of the internal political situation in our countries. and this means that the result in any case is not achieved. moving on, not only ukraine in the neighborhood partially. this was touched upon to the west, another initiative similar to fence building. now not exclusively, polish, national fun were drawn and other heads of the ministry of the interior made your latvia poland gathered and adopted a terrible statement to close the border with belarus in the event of a critical incident. moreover, in addition to the two checkpoints closed on august 18, lithuania is going to close two more. hmm what do you think about this

about. well, you know, if you say so, after all, to speculate a little, i sometimes think that the balts are the political elite of the baltics, after all, they are not independent in the same way. they also receive instructions from external centers of power in the same way. that's how they envy zelensky or not? on the one hand, it seems not, they do not have a war and the situation is simpler on the other hand. it seems that they are jealous. why? because a lot can be attributed to the war, you can easily intimidate alex here, his own population is absolutely right. and you can make a lot of money. and well, sometimes it seems to me that they are deliberately compensating for the absence of a war for this escalation of tension when they try to create, what kind of nervous situation from scratch? well, i also agree that they sometimes succeed. judging by the interest that lithuanians show in

a trip to belarus, it is more likely that they close our citizens from their own. this is another aspect. the point is that when lithuanians you come here, here in a peaceful life of well-being, and yes, and simply another lifestyle is a different state, minds, even among the people of the population, then this is certainly a very serious destabilizing factor. from the president of lithuania to the seat, he probably understood what this could lead to, or thought about zelensky and decided for himself that, probably, the military prospect is still not as attractive as it seemed. earlier, he urged not to arrange a campaign to close the control of checkpoints on the border with belarus, and he says so, it is necessary to assess the inconvenience for residents, and then, as if by chance, losses are also impossible. naturally, because this is the rhetoric that sounds from warsaw from the baltic capitals. yes, while they cause inconvenience to a greater extent,

citizens. moreover, especially the baltic countries, where there is a flow, and as a result, without a visa, our country is very serious and indeed the atmosphere is developing. just recently , a friend, a well-known journalist from riga, yuri alekseev, came to me and he looked at how he lives in minsk, he was shocked. well, that is, a comparison of the religion of minsk hmm is impossible in some comparative way. yes, because there really quite depressing , constantly disturbing atmosphere is whipping up this military hysteria, and here is a calm peaceful life of people, and they live, as usual, develop everything in abundance. and this, of course, surprises in a good way, let's say our friends from the baltic states, but it should be said what, if as a result of these actions, yeah, we listen carefully, what the representatives of the polish government say, they will block the

continental transit, then this conflict is no longer only with belarus we understand that this is a conflict even to a greater extent with china, and here i understand that it is not the poles themselves who are striving for this. there are serious competitors , primarily in britain in america, who need only maritime trade and not the development of continental routes. and here the question is whether they are ready to turn into a logistical dead end, yes or they will still try to say a lot of terrible words, but will leave at least the main highways of continental significance. i think in the end it will be this is the second one, but there will be a lot of words of threats. although we see that sometimes they are already they begin to think again and understand how this, in principle, can end. well, you need pears. here is an interesting opinion of the editor-in-chief balt nyusha andrey starikov on this matter. uh, he says that this is first of all blackmail and secondly a beautiful picture and emotions. this is a story for western sponsors who should see that the ukrainian problem is also linked to the eastern

flank of nato, which is also fighting russia from belarus, the sellers of fear are a very good image. e, alexei suggested and let's continue in this sense. here again from the wagnerites there is no way to go anywhere, in general, poland is very seriously stressed on this score. and i must say that our whites still periodically pour oil on the fire. by the way, they write in their publications, referring to them, the ministry of internal affairs of belarus has been giving wagner passports with changed names for a month now. well, just a thriller, but for all the absurdity , there is a reason to worry about a simple pole. and this is how we understand that the elections are ahead. we understand that guys. here is this troika duda ant kolchansky set up. they definitely lack brutality, they lack justification. why all these expenses? why did the army grow in you why they spend more on weapons than on the social sphere? and they may well not organize some kind of terrorist attack with the mythical wagner wagnerites?

hide behind saying that, well, you see, we need to arm even more, but the probability is high. it would not be superfluous to talk about such things about such a direction. well, unfortunately , i think there is a possibility . i don’t presume to estimate how high, but the struggle there is very sharp, i must admit, and they do everything to snatch this victory to completely control all branches of government. now the situation is shaky, because competitors are also stepping on their heels, while, uh, competitors are growing. let's just say from the side of a third force, the so-called confederations are even more right-wing, but it is precisely in favor of poland's sovereignty from the eu that they really don't like it. that's how much more bogged down the euro-atlantic structure is. they are trying to play. in more such a right , even a conservative policy, but at the same time to defend the national polish interests and plus. slogans of 0 problems with neighbors are periodically heard there, which, let's say, falls very

much on many poles. it is necessary to get tired of the soul, after all, people are there and from this eternal confrontation of the unknown in this situation. yes, in order to finally terrorize their population, something like this can happen, or some kind of incident on the border, they can arrange. that is, here the arsenal is large, we just need to understand that it is possible that you can expect anything from those people, but again, the fact that more sane powers. this does not mean that they are our like-minded people, but in any case, if there is an interest in partnership of at least two neighboring states. this is to be welcomed. and it seems to me that such forces will also gain momentum, do not sleep, if anything, well, i absolutely. but i agree with this assessment and i want to say that this is now the period of the greatest. well, if i may, so to speak, vulnerabilities, uh, and prospects

to spoil the situation. eh, i can put it this way until the end. e swana ukraine this period will be continue as soon as the goals of freedom are finally achieved. uh, the likelihood of any provocations or armed conflict in other areas in our region as a whole will be drastically reduced. we really need to be vigilant. here for this period. well, it’s an interesting pattern, the louder the doors slam in the west, the wider they swing open in the east and in general, as they say in the global south, the brix themselves key points to the most important international event, according to experts, the bloc fixes behind a geopolitical control, over the middle eastern oil triangle of saudi arabia, the arab emirates, iran, and everything is going on for now. under the slogan, we don’t need the dollar, plus egypt is control over its own channel. the second important factor of the wounds finally shook up the image

of the outcast that the west has been creating for so many years . russian kripka, despite all attempts to cancel, the sixteenth next year will host kazan andrey vladimirovich will correctly say that the world has become different after johan's national teams, or is it too loudly premature, while you need to give time to look at it . well, plus such an increase. yes, the movement started quite seriously. yes , the brix expansion is a step in that direction. but this is one of the steps. this is not yet a fundamental change in the situation, but without a doubt. this surprises me, even the very fact of consolidation. in general, countries really different. a political agenda with very different interests calls for an absolutely uncoordinated economic policy, well, in a certain way. one might even say

panic in the west. it is rather a sign that the collective west does not feel confident in its future, that their positions are much more precarious than we used to think. this is very interesting. confirmation. you will continue as a director in crystallina. georgieva invites the international financial system to buckle up in forina ferris and says that a number of powerful forces stimulate the fragmentation of the world economy. you see, here is a very interesting moment. it changes the cause and effect of not powerful forces stimulating the fragmentation of the economy. and uh, the same countries of the collective west have brought the economic system of the world to a situation where the lens becomes inevitable. you can’t get away from this process, and by and large the reaction of both russia and china and , in fact, all the countries that have become brix that have applied for brix is ​​an attempt

be saved. uh, in the process of this destruction. protect your own interests another question is that the position of the imf is a little different here . this movement is the inevitability of changing the global economic system. and she begins to speak very carefully, but if the situation changes, the accountant will still be needed. we don't need to be thrown out. we will come in handy, we will count the currencies of the brix countries, we will create a new financial system. there is one, i think we have cinematography, don't shoot the pianist he 's playing. how can yes. here she sends. it sends a signal. of course, very diplomatically very carefully. eh, good such a diplomatic practice, which i have encountered many times in my biography, but

they already declare that they are ready to serve the interests of other players. uh-huh, understandable. well, i think that certainly the trend is obvious is such a drift into the empty slow centers of power, er, east and south. and here is a very interesting process. we are watching. well, that's probably 500 times years happens, yes, when the leader changes, but it happens over a long period. we are probably at the beginning, but it is extremely interesting that this is the nervous reaction of the west. that is, it is so used to its exclusivity that these challenges are symbolic so far to a greater extent of the unification of countries outside the west, and i liked the statement. the representative of the russian ministry of foreign affairs who said that, apparently, the countries of the west will never enter the brix. why, but, because we are partners against each other, cannot impose sanctions. and so

this is a very important moral and ethical message that here we are organizing, let's say , the world order or some prototype of it under different rules. maybe this is such an idealistic idea, but this is a very clear message. west you have fenced yourself off from the majority of the world and now you will be isolated for us brix is ​​first of all, what is brix for us in the first place. it seems to me at the moment. this is an opportunity to build up economic cooperation, because now there are, and these processes are underway , coordination of consolidation, indeed economies, different continents, different logistics there, in general, what should be in order to organize communication between these countries, but, nevertheless. for us, this is an opportunity to calmly, without sanctions, without political pressure, look for partners, look for new markets, and plus, of course, a political and diplomatic platform to voice our

initiatives to promote integration solutions, which, perhaps, we have already tested and have an idea of ​​how what works and this one tribune. e for well a significant part, if not more of humanity. this is very important because where else can we voice something really important for the planet, because he, but we see how many decisions are blocked there, so here in many ways. we can voice our voice, seriously. what fundamentally new opportunities does this give us? well, i would not talk about some fundamentally new opportunities. in fact , the union state with russia and the joint formation of our own macro-region give us fundamentally new opportunities, fundamental really serious opportunities. once we've already talked about this. here is the core.

we need to get to become part of the core of a new macro-region, because in the bucket, there is always a higher standard of living and a faster pace of development, and brix for us is a tool for stabilizing this transition, stabilizing the formation, which allows, on the one hand, to ensure the predicted supply of belarusian products, outside before all the countries that have been very rightly said do not put forward politically conditioned decisions. this is a very important point. and this is an opportunity to make this transition to a multipolar world more predictable and not bloody, because from the side of the west , no doubt, another strategy can be traced. they understand that they cannot launch neo-globalization on their own terms. and this means that they will create conflicts. as much as possible in all parts of the world. this means that we are still going through a very difficult period. tests. brix will allow, uh,

to torpedo this strategy to smooth out this transition, damn it, and the sco, and the sco. it's all these two tools. yes, i would not even begin to completely discount the traditional international organizations. like, he's still there. there are still instruments of influence and are capable of consolidating the people of the country who are interested in such a more favorable development, as i say creation of peace for all, not for the elite. well, thank you. thank you very much. andrey vladimirovich alexey valerievich for participation in our program what is the best way to test your erudition and ingenuity with tricky questions? what is the name of the fabulous genie who was saved by

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a multifaceted russian intelligence officer, writer, brilliant political scientist, a huge audience knows and loves him as a lecturer who can simply talk about complex things. what is it that we often lack clarity in these turbulent news flows, so our today's gost we are really pleased with the professor hemomember of the presidium advice on russia's foreign defense policy andrey bezrukov andrey olegovich hello, thank you for taking the time for us, i propose to start with ukraine. here is such a topic, the essence of which can be formulated in this way, fatigue from the ukrainian agenda. here the counter-offensive failed with pinpoint bites by drones, as deliveries of leopards do not change the picture. and we see that the ukrainians themselves are tired. in your opinion, why is the world so abruptly ceasing to be centric? is it a natural process or is it more of an information-psychological maneuver before sudden actions, like a feint in sports,

you look to the left and you hit to the right, i'll try to tell you what i think, so first of all, ukraine is a project. this project is not ukrainian. unfortunately, the ukrainians themselves have very little to do with this project. this is an anti-russian project, i will tell you belarusians, by the way, too. built by the west this project , like all projects, lives from time to time, as long as it is needed. and the tragedy of ukraine is that it has become a project. that its elites could not build a country that has permanent ones? forces of attraction constant interests constant understanding of one's place in the world, which would become permanent. but in the absence

of this, they are content with the project. does the project have a beginning and an end? and now we already feel this end, what about those who built this project and who paid for it? he sees what they got from this project. well, almost everything you could get. and since it's scary to go further, i'm talking about nuclear war. and in general they never had such thoughts, they needed to do several things that were clearly associated with this project to milk europe to weaken russia to pull out everything that can be pulled out of good things from ukraine and to leave as they left, afghanistan , vietnam and all other things, when their interests no longer coincide with this project. and

because it's a project? everyone understands that this project is nearing its end. and there is fatigue from him, because there are no forces that are capable or ready to take up to him and pull him to the end through his whole life through the whole history, and so on and so forth. he will be abandoned as soon as he is no longer needed, but now, if we talk about ukraine as a project, we see warsaw's appetites, which it does not hide, moreover, looks into the territory of belarus in the nato camp, ukraine may recently have hinted, 115 nato may have a new exchange for concessions to the territory, and russia but words are one thing and real deeds are another. here's what you think andrei olegovich how likely is the collapse of ukraine great precisely because it is a project. do you know that ukraine has had several attempts in history to make a country out of itself? and

all these attempts ended in one end with the fact that someone with stronger elites, and the problem of ukraine is the lack of its own national elite. with an understanding of where they wanted to lead the country, who they are, they are east or west or something else. and just like ukraine has always been divided over the past, well, 400 years, i guess. she is divided now. and the division of ukraine according to those that make up its cultural block. he is closer. the weaker the central power becomes, the weaker the understanding of the elite becomes. where to lead this country further, so the collapse of the country is possible? and in general, it is

logical. after all, this is how ukraine lived for many years, there is an attraction to different west to east i can say about hungary about transcarpathia and so on, right? i can't say that's the way it will be. but the potential is there. it's absolutely exactly. there are countries. take poland the same, despite the fact that its borders have changed a lot. i cannot say that poland consists of different parts, which can suddenly be pulled apart, even if someone comes. russia cannot be pulled apart. but ukraine may fall apart. and the reverse process is still not completely lost, if the chance of ukraine is still from the category of a project country projects into the category of a full-fledged state of the country. here is what is needed for this and

not a missed moment. i think he's already gone. there was a moment when it was about 10 years ago, probably, when it was possible to concentrate and consolidate the elite on some kind of understanding. well, i don’t know, that is, such a bridge between east and west, or something else with those huge ones. well, how can i say this with a beautiful land, with a wonderful climate , with the industry that was created under the soviet union, ukraine was, well, a tidbit, or something, for everyone it really is was wonderful. but i think the chance is gone now. the leadership that is now, it will go away, it will go away. in a crisis, she will leave in a bad way. and this means a chance for someone

to stay and keep. is minimal to other topics. the more we look at the confrontation on the ukrainian front in general, the clearer the understanding, of course, that ours is not about moscow and kiev, but about the birth of a new world order and today this request is on the new world. it is no longer just even in the air, but every day we hear such blows on the baht and another of them was the other day in hansburg. brix himself passed there, which the builders themselves called themselves. there's an extension of the journalists that the experts who watched called all this a challenge that the global south is throwing down by the global west. this is how you see it, we are truly entering a new age now. absolutely you know our era can be compared with what it was 100 years ago. this is a transition from one

world order to another, and it is both technological and political and economic, and now we will have a different economic picture of the world. look after all the center of gravity is the center of industry, the center of the dynamics of the international economy goes to the east. and that's where we're seeing growth, that's where we're seeing big countries and india china indonesia and others come into their own. a new structure of the world is being built. naturally, he, of course, is not on the periphery. but he is no longer the center. this is the center. now it is not clear, it turns out. such two poles, i don't want to call them

poles, but one is growing and consolidating. and the second is losing momentum, which is normal, because the era of the west is the era of the liberal economy the global economy is over now it is disintegrating. and brix is ​​the solution when countries that don't want the world to be thrown into chaos after this collapse. they take the initiative into their own hands and build a new system. but you once called andrei easy, brix with the world of the majority. this was before the new members joined and the claims that were voiced it is now as never before indeed this is the world of the majority, but here is a very important point, will this majority have enough will from solidarity to to build not a copy of what we are leaving now, something qualitatively new, so, is there enough unity of will for this breakthrough? well, according to

the majority, sergei alexandrovich karaganov spoke first, that is, i am not the author of this. well, you know, cohesion, it comes out of necessity. each of these serious states of china and russia india brazil iran they see their national interests, and they understand that together, if they together build the rules of the game, according to which it will be more convenient to live more reliably. everything will be fine for them, if they do not build these rules of the game, then they will have to return to the system that did not accept them, did not recognize them and exploited them and look at the dynamics, the brix 15 years 10 years ago 5 years ago. it was like,

well, between five countries. where in general? they met and talked about being sovereign. and they were leaving. and look at what is now and this is a dynamic. it will continue to accelerate and increase, because common projects appear, a common vision appears. it is forged and here is what does. the west helps a lot so that this other understanding can be forged faster. how is the denial of that stupidity? what the west is doing now is burying itself, in fact , back then, one international topic, we have been observing the development of events around niger for several weeks together with the whole world. well, more specialized experts,

they say, niger. but he sees from him such a french colonial past, so we pay attention to those dictionaries that allow us to speak nevertheless nigers. uh, so, uh, different answers and opinions come from experts on this program to question. will there be a big battle for africa, andrey levich , i want to clarify. do you think there will be a big war? you know it, if it will be, but there is such a potential. it will not be for africa, it will be between african countries for what will be africa you know, after all, when the colonial powers divided africa like asia by the way, like the middle east, they didn’t give a damn? where who lived and now, in fact , this is the same border. niger and nigeria

, because part of nigeria is muslim, and part catholic and when none of the borders is really defined, and even more so in the desert and tribes roam between different countries. after all , as soon as the question arises. where is the border? it won't happen without blood. after all, everyone wants to force behind them, the resources of the population , livestock, and so on and so forth, but nothing is defined in africa. well, i'm exaggerating, but a lot is uncertain, by the way, in asia, too . look at pakistan, all the borders of pakistan are blurred. on the one hand, a pashtun from the north where there is a border with another baloch. west with iran where is the border? here it is official.