and the prospects to spoil the situation. eh, i can put it this way until the end. e svo in ukraine, this period will continue as soon as the goals of the words are finally achieved. uh, the likelihood of any provocations or armed conflict in other areas in our region as a whole will be drastically reduced. we really need to be vigilant. here for this period. well, the pattern is interesting, the louder the doors slam in the west, the wider they swing open in the east and in general, how now they are talking in the global south to the most important international event, the brix themselves key points, according to experts, the bloc secures geopolitical control, over the middle east oil triangle of saudi arabia, the arab emirates, iran, and everything is still pending dollar. we do not need plus egypt - this is control over our channel, the second important factor of the wound, finally shook off the image of an outcast here, which for so many years the west third argentina and latin

america as a whole are gaining the pace of exit from the sphere control of the united states and finally demonstrating that the position of russia is strong, despite all attempts to cancel the sixteenth summit next year, kazan takes andrei vladimirovich correctly to say that the world has become different after johans national team or is it too loudly premature, while we need to give time to see if to bind exactly the assembly, that is, the movement has already begun. well, plus such an increase. yes, the movement started quite seriously. yes , the brix expansion is a step in that direction. but this is one of the steps. it's not cardinal yet. a change in the situation, but without a doubt. this is what surprises me, even the very fact of consolidation. in general, countries with very different political agendas with very different interests have absolutely no coordinated economic policies. well, in a certain way. one could even say panic in

the west. it is rather a sign that the collective west does not feel confident in its future, that their positions are much more precarious than we used to think. this is very interesting. confirmation. you will continue as a director in crystallina. georgiev invites the international financial system to buckle up in the publication of furing fires, and says that a number of powerful forces are stimulating the fragmentation of the world economy. here is a very interesting point. it changes the cause and effect of not powerful forces stimulates the fragmentation of the economy. and uh, the same countries of the collective west have brought the economic system of the world to a situation where fragmentation becomes inevitable and an objective process , you can’t get away from it, and by and large the reaction and russia and china, and in fact all the countries that have become in brix that have applied

for brix - this is an attempt to escape. uh, in the process of this destruction, protecting one's own interests is another matter, that the position of the imf is a little different here . this movement is inevitable. uh, changing the global economic system. and she begins to speak very carefully, but if the situation changes, the accountant will still be needed. we don't need to be thrown out. we come in handy, we will consider the currencies of the brix countries, we will create a new financial system. there is such, in my opinion, we have in the cinema. don't shoot the pianist. he plays. how can yes. here she sends. it sends a signal, of course, very diplomatically, very carefully. uh, good such a diplomatic practice, which i encountered many times in my biography. but

they are already declaring that they are ready to serve the interests of other players. uh-huh, understand? well, i think that the trend is certainly obvious, it's such a drift, even if it's slow centers of power, er, to the east and to the south , and here we are observing a very interesting process, but what happens, probably, once every 500 years, yes, when the leader changes but this happens over a long stage. we are probably at the beginning, but it is extremely interesting that this is a nervous reaction for the west. that is , it is so used to its exclusivity that these challenges are symbolic so far to a greater extent of the unification of countries outside the west , and i liked the statement of the representative of the russian ministry of foreign affairs who said that here , apparently the countries of the west in brix will never enter. why not, because we cannot impose sanctions against each other as partners, and this is such a very important

moral and ethical message that here we are organizing, let's say, the world order or some kind of prototype of it under different rules. it may be such an idealistic idea, but it is a very clear message, west. you have fenced yourself off from the majority of the world and now you will be isolated for us brix is ​​first of all, what is brix for us in the first place. it seems to me at the moment. this is an opportunity to build up economic cooperation, because now there, and these processes are underway to coordinate the consolidation, indeed , the economy, different continents, there are different logistics, in general, what should be in order to organize communication between these countries, but nonetheless. for us, this is an opportunity to look for partners calmly, without sanctions, without political pressure. new markets, and plus, of course, a political and diplomatic platform to voice their

initiatives to promote integration solutions, which, perhaps, we have already tested and have representation of how what works and this tribune. e for well a significant part, if not more of mankind. this is very important , because where else can we voice something really important for the planet, because he, but we see how many decisions are blocked there, so here in many ways. we can voice our voice, seriously. what fundamentally new opportunities does this give us? well, i would not talk about some fundamentally new opportunities. in fact, fundamentally new opportunities are fundamental the union state with russia and the joint formation of our own macro-region gives us really serious opportunities. since we are talking about this topic. here is the core.

we need to get to become part of the core of a new macro-region, because in the bucket, there is always a higher standard of living and a faster pace of development, and brix for us is a tool for stabilizing this transition, stabilizing the formation, which allows, on the one hand, to ensure the predicted supply of belarusian products, outside before total countries that have been very rightly said do not put forward political contingent solutions. this is a very important point. and this is an opportunity to make this transition to a multipolar world more predictable and not bloody, because from the west there is no doubt another strategy. they understand that they cannot run non-globalization on their own terms. and this means that they will create conflicts. as much as possible in all parts of the world. this means that we are still going through a very difficult period. tests. brix will let uh,

torpedo this strategy smooth this transition damn so what and what? it's all these two tools. yes, i would not even begin to completely discount traditional international organizations. like, he's still there. there are still instruments of influence and are capable of consolidating the people of the country who are interested in such a more favorable development, as i say creation of peace for all, not for the elite. well, thank you. thank you very much. andrey vladimirovich alexey valerievich for participation in our program children's curiosity sincere interest in life you were given something by pull, do you believe in love in our modern world, does your

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brilliant political scientist, a huge audience knows and loves him as an electrically capable person to simply talk about complex things. what is it that we often lack clarity in these turbulent flows news, therefore, we are really glad to our today's guest as a professor of the hemomember of the presidium advice on russia's foreign defense policy andrey bezrukov andrey olegovich hello, thank you for taking the time for you, and i propose to start with ukraine . here is such a topic, the essence of which can be formulated in this way fatigue from the ukrainian agenda. here the counteroffensive failed, pinpoint bites by drones, how the supply of leopards does not change the picture, and we see that the ukrainians themselves have become. here's to your point of view. why does the world stop being so abruptly ukraine-centric is it natural? process or is it more of an information-psychological maneuver before sudden actions, as in sports you look to the left and hit to the right, i will try

to tell what i think about this. first, ukraine is a project. this project is not ukrainian. unfortunately, the ukrainians themselves have very little to do with this project. this is an anti-russian project. i'm russian for you, by the way, too. built by the west this project , like all projects, lives from time to time, as long as it is needed. and the tragedy of ukraine is that she became a project. that its elites were unable to build a country that has permanent ones? forces of attraction constant interests constant understanding of their place in the world, which would become permanent but in the absence

of this they are content with the project. does the project have a beginning and an end? and now we already feel this end, what about those who built this project and who paid for it? he sees what they got from this project. well, almost everything you could get. and since it's scary to go further, i'm talking about nuclear war. and in general they never had such thoughts, they had to do a few very clearly associated things with this project to milk europe to weaken russia to pull out everything that can be pulled out of the good from ukraine and to leave as they left afghanistan vietnam and all other things when their interests ceased to coincide with this project. and

because it's a project? everyone understands that this project is nearing its end. and there is fatigue from him, because there are no forces that are capable or ready to take up to him and pull him to the end through his whole life through all history and so on and so forth. it will be abandoned as soon as it is no longer needed. well, if we talk about ukraine as a project, we see the appetites of warsaw , which it does not hide, and it looks into the territory of belarus in a nato country recently hinted ukraine may join nato a new exchange for concessions to the territory, and russia but one thing is words and another thing is real deeds. here's what you think andrei olegovich how likely is the collapse of ukraine great precisely because it is a project. you know, ukraine had several attempts in history to make a country out of themselves and

all these attempts ended in one ended with someone with stronger elites, and the problem of ukraine is the lack of its own national elite. with an understanding of where they wanted to lead the country, who they are, they are east or west or something else. and just like ukraine has always been divided over the past, well, 400 years, i guess. she is divided now. and the division of ukraine according to those that make up its cultural block. he's closer, the weaker becomes central power, the weaker the understanding of the elite becomes, where to lead this country further, so the collapse of the country is possible? and in general, it is

logical. after all, this is how ukraine lived for many years, there is an attraction to different west to east , i can say about hungary, about transcarpathia and so on, right? i can't say that's the way it will be. but the potential is there. it's absolutely exactly. there are countries. take poland the same, despite the fact that its borders have changed a lot. i cannot say that poland consists of different parts, which can suddenly be pulled apart, even if someone comes. russia cannot be pulled apart. but ukraine may fall apart. and the reverse process has not yet been completely missed, if ukraine's chance to move from the category of a project country is a project, but to the category of a full-fledged state and country. here is what is needed for this and not a missed moment. i

think he's already gone. there was a moment when it was about 10 years ago, probably, when it was possible to concentrate on consolidating the elite on some kind of understanding. well, i don’t know, that is , such a bridge between east and west or something else something at those huge ones. well, how can i say this with a beautiful land, with a wonderful climate, with the industry that was created under the soviet union, ukraine was, well, a tidbit, or something, for everyone it was actually beautiful. but i think the chance is gone now. the leadership that is now, it will go away, it will go away. in a crisis, she will leave in a bad way. and this means a chance for someone

to stay and keep. is minimal to other topics. the more we look at the confrontation on the ukrainian front in general, the clearer, of course, the understanding that ours is not about moscow and about kiev and about the birth of a new world order, and today this request is on the new world. it is no longer just even in the air, but every day we hear such blows on the battery. another of them was the other day in hansburg, brix itself passed there, which the builders themselves called themselves. there's an extension of the journalists that the experts who watched called all this a challenge that the global south is throwing down by the global west. this is how you see it, we are truly entering a new age now. absolutely you know our era can be compared to what was 100 years ago. this is a transition from one world order to another, and it is both technological

and political and economic, and now we will have a different economic picture of the world. look, after all , the center of gravity is the center of industry, the center of the dynamics of the international economy goes to the east. and that's where we're seeing growth, that's where we're seeing big countries and india, china, indonesia, and others. they are within their rights. a new structure of the world is being built. naturally, he, of course, is not on the periphery. but he is no longer the center. this is the center. now it is not clear, it turns out. such two poles, i don't want to call them

poles, but one is growing and consolidating. and the second is losing momentum, which is normal, because the age of the west the era of the liberal economy of the global economy will end now it is disintegrating. and brix is ​​the solution when countries that don't want the world to be in chaos after this collapse. they take the initiative into their own hands and build a new system. but you once called andrei olegovich briks with the world of the majority. this was before new members joined and applications that were voiced. that is, now you are more relevant than ever. indeed, this is the world of the majority, but here is a very important point, will this majority have enough will from cohesion, to build not a copy of what we are leaving now, something qualitatively new, is there enough cohesion of will for this breakthrough? well

, sergei alexandrovich karaganov first spoke about the world of the majority, that is, i am not the author of this. well, you know, cohesion, it comes out of necessity. each of these serious states of china and russia india brazil iran they see their national interests, and they understand that together, if they together build the rules of the game, according to which it will be more convenient to live more reliably. everything will be fine for them, if they do not build these rules of the game, then they will have to return to the system that did not accept them, did not recognize them and exploited them, and look at the dynamics, the brix 15 years 10 years ago 5 years ago. this