tv [untitled] BELARUSTV September 5, 2023 1:05pm-2:06pm MSK
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written in cyrillic in a language accessible to russian people, let me remind you last summer , the latvian government approved the transition to teaching in schools and kindergartens of the country only in the state language. promotion of belarusian goods new horizons for e-commerce closer interaction between distributors and suppliers these topics were discussed at the international forum trade and dialogue on the site today by the heads of managers of large domestic chains. also, representatives of trade organizations of the near and abroad, taking into account the active development of the internet in trade was devoted to it in a separate section, especially now in belarus the relevant laws are being prepared, which will expand the opportunity for internet market participants. the emphasis is also on the promotion of goods within the country. to date, following the results of the first half of the year, we have an increase in the share of sales of belarusian products in the domestic market, plus 0.5% compared to
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the level of last year and in general. today we are trading at the level of 60 comma and 8%. it is in belarusian goods on the domestic market, but this is not enough. the fact is that e in the doctrine national security. we have the figure eighty eighty five percent. we must achieve this share. we are interested in not only talking on the phone and communicating by email, but also to see each other's eyes, to understand with whom you communicate on the other side, to show trust, respect for the partner and establish ties a little closer. how do they develop in everyday life ? the dialogue is being held in minsk for the third time . the uniqueness of the forum is that manufacturers can personally meet with retailers , conduct direct negotiations and present novelties.
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creation of a single cultural space strengthening friendship between the youth of belarus russia propaganda of the best ideas in the field of the modern youth movement the delegation of belarus went to smolensk where the sixteenth festival of youth for the union state will be held the start of participation was given by the solemn sending ceremony and the concept of the presentation of the delegation members at the republican youth house by the most active participant of the past of the festival were awarded diplomas, and parting words for the newly-made delegates. sure, that the central events will be not only the opening of the closing of the festival, but this is an extensive competitive program during which the guys will also visit the settlements of the smolensk region, the border of the republic, belarus well, they will do it together with such a youth mix. e together, guys from belarus from russia will e demonstrate their mastery of art to people from the hinterland, but people from large regional centers. and it
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's great that this whole process is accompanied by our media, which will also allow you to plunge into this atmosphere of the festival and all our viewers as part of a delegation of about a hundred belarusian girls and boys. the central event of the forum will be the international youth song performers competition. more information at my colleagues at 15:00 on our air see you soon. winter jump hard natural riches of belarus shmatem prostrate you can joke around here there is a spherical lake in the non-random name of god's wok, in spite of the lake tore off the dyakaya with its obrysam. what are the shapes of the wolf in lake maya
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of the right circle, i don’t change like that for stretching debts, there is a distant one, that the wok soars for the right people from heaven and shreds them such choral chandeliers in belarus hello, i greet everyone who is with us today, our studios are the most interesting interlocutors experienced diplomat. now deputy head of the commission on international affairs andrei svinykh, as well as political scientist alexei germant. also today , a russian intelligence officer will be in touch with us. in the past. today we are andrey bezrukov, professor of gimo, in a word, a great opportunity talk about events and meanings, but let's start that's what we're here for, that the program is not everything, and peaceful ways for ukraine, at the past anti-brix itself, this was discussed. only now, it seems like in the movies they are setting up for a long war.
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listen for yourself. uh-huh i'm cutting it. forgiveness, guilt, we are ready for people. oh, it will be possible, but to minimize the victims, yak hid israel there . i said, it can also be possible even on the territory of russia, well, great ryzy, which exactly laid my very. well, look at this it would seem a small fragment. a how many things the man said, no negotiations for you and tune in to a long war, this was also said. should the war go to the territory of russia, you and i understand that such an interview is usually not spontaneous, and something tells me that in this particular case there was no spontaneity, in general, what are andrey vladimirovich zelensky ready for in this case,
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the ukrainian population of ukrainian spectators. well, first of all, one important point must be taken into account, uh, the ukrainian leadership does not make any decisions, it is located completely under the control of external control centers, these external centers need a war in order to deplete russia in order to ideally bring it to some well , difficult period, economic, political , whatever, well, let's not forget that russia is not a direction the main blow is the main conflict of the xxi century. it's still a conflict with china, uh, but it's another matter that i think he's wishful thinking . well, the war won't last long. and here you need to understand one more simply important point - the current leadership, realizing that ukraine will not have victory, it’s just playing for time in order to get additional income and solve some of their
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issues, but clearly they are not interested in regulating the situation, not in ensuring the future for the ukrainian people. and this is really a tragedy ivanovich. well , it seems to me that we will really say the conditions for maintaining power for zelensky. so the team is the continuation of this war, because you give us a different mode. yes, questions will arise. still, pro-efficiency management the same army about how much ukraine has become dependent and lost its sovereignty , these questions will be asked, like e. the mothers of the dead will also ask questions. and why were these meat assaults? yes, which ended in nothing and so on. this is a cumulative effect. this will sooner or later affect specifically zelensky and, in principle, all the power configuration that exists there, but as long as they are in
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the zombie state, that is, when it is coded by external, let's say, players, it can continue long enough. but we all know that sooner or later these zombies run out of any er, powers. yes, and we see that this moment is already approaching, because , well, obviously not enough. not only weapons. and as a matter of fact, some kind of morale and fighting spirit. hmm, so they want to stretch it out as long as possible. this is a pleasure in quotation marks, especially western states that do business on this, but this will not last long and you will have to think about a different format of interaction, too , russia well, we already understood that zelensky this is the president of the war, there is no doubt, on this score, there is no longer any. and there are outside other ukraine well, people are not for this, there are politicians of power who are able to offer and, most importantly, implement it in another alternative.
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let's say. so a certain peaceful option or option. even this war with the possibility of escaping the collapse that is still looming on the horizon of ukraine i think that these forces exist, of course, but deep inside. yes, because now they are under the pressure of terror, it is difficult for them to declare any position, even if it is neutral. yes, at least hmm not to mention there, take into account the interests of neighbors in belarus, russia , but everything can change, because today ukraine is not so independent to completely clean up the entire field. yes, we all understand that politicians of various kinds can come to the west as well. yes, who will say, well, that's enough, probably, that's such a frantic war. let's listen to these, that is, maybe this. well, of course, small comments. we still have to give ourselves to the fathers, in the essence of the ukrainian government. that is , it is a totalitarian system, which is completely
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destroyed everyone. it is clear to the opponents that 80 % of the population of ukraine may not support this course, but the interests of the people are realized only if there is an organizational tool - a political party, a leader, and so such parties and leaders in ukraine are simply eliminated. and so it is impossible to wait for any change. remember germany . there was like an anti-hitler underground, but political parties began to form the organization of society only after the red army came there. i think it will be here zelensky is well aware of the same in his dependence on, let’s say, partners, but he knows how to play this role, it seems he is ready from the game to the end in the same interview from which we started today he corrects himself and says that they say victory is victory ,
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over russia will not be ours, but our partners, who are given to us with an eyebrow. that is, until the end. still, it does justice to the fact that without them there are two moments. eh, alekseevich correctly said the point is that ukraine can no longer resist. well, really, then there it survives solely on the financial and military support of western countries, if suddenly for some reason this support would stop. uh, the war would be over within a week at the most. well, let's then partners and talk everything you need to know about the high relations of kiev and the washingtons in a peculiar way admonished zelensky american guests you must win so that we do not lose a group of senators arrived in kiev to personally congratulate zelensky on a holiday that hardly has anything to do with today's ukraine independence day senator lindsey graham to all appearances, actually ordered another vladimir to hold an election in 2024. and she declared the need for victories to the all, at
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the front further. i will read slowly. and you think about it so the words of graham you must win a war that we cannot afford to lose. that is, it turns out that thousands of ukrainian guys die for the sake of their uncle's victory. sam we have him now senator c. what are you talking about, i mean, they won't let him, let's say , get out of the game, yes, but i'd be here. i would repeat this wording again before literally half a year ago this is categorically negativity, but in reality the conflict in ukraine is not a conflict between russia and ukraine, it is a conflict between the national state of russia and the owners of transnational financial corporations here. look at what kind of financial oligarchy you know, which controls the state apparatuses of the us uk eu and leads. war and this is
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a very important point and look how interesting they are now turning. closer closer to the elections, the ukrainians are all in including senators, graham says that it is impossible to cancel the choice not for elections, and in the same interview that we have already talked about today, he makes it clear in such a very cunning manner in his usual manner that i will not give back the money put on weapons to spend on elections. that is, he understands that the chair is rocking very seriously. naturally, even more so , he can earn money on weapons for his colleagues and from that very financial oligarch. it's profitable, to be honest , it pushes him to the polls then. but still, it seems to me that there is a certain desire about western. elite to build a framework for zelensky we see that he periodically breaks down and begins to accuse their claims of making a small mara. small weapon, little money, here, and here it is, well, in general, hard formatting, if they have accepted.
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to perform green ritual actions under the guise of elections, then they must be performed and , accordingly, the conditions must be met in order to receive the next portion, money , a weapon, that is, it is kept in control mode. and naturally. uh, the elite in kiev would like under the guise of war. uh, intro martial law, cancel all elections and further toughen that totalitarian regime. yes, so that there weren’t any at all, but opportunities to somehow move this power. they stayed there, if not forever, then for as long as they were supposed to be there, so this is a struggle, including for control. yes, so that they are more obedient ukrainian politicians , specifically zelensky, but also so that american senators are representatives of the oligarchs. still , they were confident in the correct investment of their money. me here i completely agree with this evaluation. here i would simply add one such aspect, the thing is that they are western.
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the elites, they are accustomed to the show, they have long turned the election process into a definitely beautiful show, there is even a term. strictly speaking , western researchers of the country. after democracy, democratic processes have already been emasculated there and replaced by certain ones, so to speak, ritual ritual is a very good word. alexei said the same here . ah, the ukrainian government. says why we will be hypocritical? let's cancel elections , so to speak, this is a more radical position. a they say no, let's do it beautifully. let's just falsify them, but you mean that there are no free , honest elections that could move this government at least one iota, neither in the first nor in the second case, rotation instead of zelensky to become, except for zaluzhny or budanov, it will be three father step. uh, again in washington, uh, again, clearly not in a democratic way, but for reasons of expediency, if zelensky
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works out effectively enough the tasks that come from there, he will replace him. here you go, e from the fact that for us an important signal of mood, at least this auto-training for the ukrainian population, which was voiced by zelensky in the long war. this is a signal to us that we should not reduce our combat readiness as one of the factors of our security. well, probably along with the fact that we have tactical nuclear weapons. these , of course, are those joint actions that are being taken on our military together with the dude, and but we saw that after the death of prigozhin, there was a lot of speculation about the fate of the wagnerites on our territories and alexander lukashenko dotted everything and i propose to listen to this issue. then we will discuss this topic, it was also important that wagner lived in belarus, no matter how much someone would like it, we shot with prigozhin and everyone. how will
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wagner be located with us and these pictures from space that we are dismantling something? why do we remove the extra tents, so many of these tents are not needed. so much is not needed here remains the core. uh, someone left. here on vacation. uh, someone, uh, in general, decided to live on the sidelines, but telephones addresses passwords in this headquarters. in this core are known for a few days, everyone will be here up to 10,000 people. now there is no need to keep them, so they don’t bake anywhere as much as we need and i will not live and work here for this unit. alex i have such a question hmm and for whom in the first place alexander lukashenko that's all. e, says, what do you think, to whom these words are addressed, but it seems to me that there is also an internal recipient of this
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information, and externally, but internally probably if we are talking about the union space, also in russia there were many questions about what would happen to wagner. here after the tragic death of the leadership. and, of course, they are closely following the fate of these people in our western direction in poland, especially. yes , for them this is just an existential factor. i watch as a result of the elections. it seems to me that it even depends on where to move to wagner there, to which part of belarus, of course, this is also manipulation. they sell fear. they sell threats to their population. yes, and on this trying to raise the rating of the ruling party. and by the way, it turns out, yes, because they know how to intimidate after all. but in fact , the president, as always, in such an attention, manner, dot everything, that is, these people will help our army. they will perform certain tasks that we will need, but naturally, we are not planning aggressive actions, but we see perfectly what is happening there and therefore
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, uh, such a formation, as one of the tools, is far from superfluous, especially in in the conditions of these hybrid conflicts, when it is not clear who can penetrate the territory, when the state disowns some, say, military formations very often and we see this happening all over the world, therefore, i think that for us these people will be useful some of them really will work with us. well, some of it is optional. uh, there are different contracts, including in africa, but if necessary, we heard, they can be collected. we are very fast. yes, i absolutely agree with this approach. a i just highlighted the main point here. why the death of the leader wagner will not affect the effectiveness of the organization , the thing is that, like any institution of the pmc , it is organized in such a way that one person, escaping and disappearing, does not break the entire organizational team structure. this
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is always thought through, always done, and therefore , without a doubt, dude wagner will continue to function as effectively without prigozhin, the second moment that needs to be determined. i think it's important to emphasize this. though this is the moment, maybe painful even for the belarusian society , the thing is that, well, we are not ready to actively defend our homeland. i get asked this question very often in the classrooms. we are ready to take up arms to defend our country. army, yes , and the president must be given credit for doing. everything possible goes to any steps in order to prevent an open armed conflict along the perimeter of our border, thereby saving both the population and society. remember in your time. he asked the question that sovereignty is worth a lot we are ready to pay
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for this sovereignty. here's the question today. eh, the meaning of this question is beginning to be fully revealed e and the appearance in our country of both tactical nuclear weapons and warner pmcs are, in fact, measures that are aimed at making any conflict in god our borders impossible. it plays a very important role here. why because it's 10,000 people who went through a real riot of clashes. they are worth much more than uh, they took the entire baltic army and half of the polish. and this means that their appearance here balances the potential for offensive defense and makes, in principle, any adventure. in this direction, meaningless. we said, but you need to say ib college. we touched on the topic, i understand very well the wagner pmc, the number of versions of the reasons for this plane crash, which, well, happened suddenly and for many
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it was a shock of confusion, but for someone it became a reason to conduct their own special psychological operations, but nevertheless, how not to touch on this topic , the impossibility of all versions. which one do you think is the most plausible, if you follow logic, who benefits? well, the first thing i will say is, uh, the most implausible version. it seems to me all the same version of involvement. uh, the actual russian leadership, firstly, because there is no longer such a need. yes, all these events with the rebellion left. and prigozhin has already built himself into some kind of new system of relations. basically. it would satisfy. it seems to me that the authorities in russia and this is the first. that is, i don’t see such a rational or some other motivation for it to be. versions, but there are other versions, at least.
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yes , the version with wagner's activity in africa seems interesting to me, and we know that france is such an interesting country with very long traditions. here are similar colonial colonial traditions, including massacres. here over similar people over others. yes, this is the version. here it seems to me, quite interesting, the second. this, of course, we do not yet know the details of the investigation. but the fact that a pops up now , nevertheless, that on earth they probably laid this bomb. yes, the fact that some kind of employee was bribed, or was there a technical one or not? this suggests that all the same, this is an agency, for example, ukrainian, which operates there, it is very active. this, too, cannot be stitched together and discarded, plus in the same place, perhaps, an integrated approach, let's say. yes, that is, the western intelligence service takes the ukrainian one in a row, their interests coincide and they
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are engaged in similar actions, therefore , it seems to me that we still need to look for a foreign trace due to the very great danger of wagner both in ukraine and let's say in africa i agree with these assessments. i won't even guess. which version is correct. eh why? because this should answer this one , it should simply give a consequence, but it is important, i want to emphasize. uh, another point is that this death did not lead to a decrease in the defense potential of anything in the vc of either russia or belarus, this will not be a negative consequence of any complication of the internal political situation in our countries. and this means that the result in any case is not achieved. moving on, not only ukraine in the neighborhood partially. this touched to the west, another initiative is similar to fence construction. now not exclusively, polish, national zabava reached out and other heads of the ministry of the interior made your latvia more
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gathered and adopted a terrible statement to close the border with belarus in the event of a critical incident. moreover, lithuania in additions will be closed on the eighteenth of august, the checkpoint is going to close two more. here hmm first, what do you think about this. well, you know, if you say so, still speculate a little, i sometimes think, balts the political elite of the baltic states, it is also not independent in the same way. they also receive instructions from external centers of forces in the same way. that's how they envy zelensky or not? on the one hand, it seems not, they do not have a war and the situation is simpler on the other hand. it seems that they are jealous. why? because a lot can be attributed to the war, you can easily intimidate alex here, his own population is absolutely right. and you can make a lot of money. and so, sometimes it seems to me that they deliberately compensate for the lack of war
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here is this escalation of tension when they try to create, what kind of nervous environment from scratch? well, i also agree that they sometimes succeed. judging by the interest that the lithuanians show in a trip to belarus , it is more likely that they do not close our citizens from their own. this is another aspect . the point is that when lithuanians come here to see here in a peaceful life of well-being, and yes , and simply a different lifestyle , a different state of mind, even among the people of the population, then this is certainly a very serious destabilizing factor. from the president of e lithuania to the seat, i probably understood. what could this lead to, or thought about zelensky and decided for himself that, probably, the military prospects are still not as attractive as it seemed. previously, he urged not to arrange a company to close the control of checkpoints on the border with belarus, and he says so, it is necessary to assess the inconvenience for
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residents, and then, as if by chance , losses are also impossible. naturally, because this is the rhetoric that sounds from warsaw from baltic capitals. yes, while they cause inconvenience to a greater extent, citizens. moreover, especially in the baltic countries, where the flow is, and as a result, without a visa , our country is very serious and indeed the atmosphere is striking. recently , a well-known journalist from riga, yuri alekseev, came to me and he looked at how he lives in minsk, he was shocked. well, that is , a comparison of the religion of minsk hmm is impossible in some comparative way. yes, because there is really quite a depressing , constantly disturbing atmosphere forcing here of this military hysteria, and here is a calm peaceful life of people, but they live, as usual, develop everything in abundance.
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and this, of course, surprises in a good way, let's say our friends from the baltic states, but it should be said what, if as a result of these actions, yeah, we listen carefully, what the representatives of the polish government say, they will block the continental transit, then this conflict is no longer only with belarus we understand that this is a conflict even to a greater extent with china, and here i understand that it is not the poles themselves who are balts to this strive. there are serious competitors , primarily in britain in america, who need only maritime trade and not the development of continental routes. and here the question is whether they are ready to turn into a logistical dead end, yes or they will still try to say a lot of terrible words, but will leave at least the main highways of continental significance. i think in the end it will be this is the second one, but there will be a lot of words of threats. although we see that sometimes they are already beginning to think again and understand how this, in
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principle, can end. well, pears needed. here is an interesting opinion of the editor-in-chief balt nyusha andrey starikov on this matter. uh, he says that this is first of all blackmail and secondly a beautiful picture and emotions. this is a story for western sponsors who should see that the ukrainian problem is also linked to the eastern flank of nato, which is fighting from russia to belarus, sellers of fear are a very good image. e, alexei suggested and let's continue in this sense. here again , there is no getting away from the wagnerites; in general, poland is very seriously stressed on this score. and it must be said that our whites periodically add oil to the fire. look at what they write in their publications, referring to them, the ministry of internal affairs of belarus has been giving wagner passports with changed names for a month now. well, just a thriller, but with all the absurdity, there is a reason to worry about a simple pole. and this is how we understand that the elections are ahead. we understand that guys. this troika of duda, the marovets kachelinskys, is set up. they definitely lack brutality, they lack justification.
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why all these expenses? why did the army grow? why are you spending more on weapons than on social sphere? and they may very well not organize some kind of terrorist attack with their wagnerites in mythical camps, cover up to say that well, you see, we need to arm even more, and there is a high probability. it would not be superfluous to talk about such things about such a direction. well, unfortunately, i think there is a possibility. i don’t presume to estimate how high, but the struggle there is very sharp, it must be admitted, and they are doing everything to snatch this victory and completely control all branches of power. now the situation is shaky, because competitors are also advancing on the heels, at the same time, competitors are growing. let's just say from the side of a third force, the so-called confederations are even more right-wing, but it is precisely in favor of poland's sovereignty from
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the eu that they really don't like it. that's how much more stuck in the euro-atlantic structure. they are trying to play. in more such a right , even a conservative policy, but at the same time defending the national polish interests is a plus. there periodically sound the slogans of zero problems with neighbors, which, let's say, lays down for many poles already. it is necessary to get tired of the soul, after all, people, there and from this eternal confrontation of the unknown also in this situation. yes, to finally terrorize their population. something like this can happen, or some kind of incident at the border cannot be arranged. that is, here the arsenal is large, we just need to understand that it is possible that anything can be expected from those people, but again, the fact that more sensible forces are beginning to appear in polish society has not been discarded. this does not mean that they are our like-minded people, but in any case, if there is an interest in partnership with some at least there e two neighboring states. this is to be welcomed. and it seems to me that
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such forces will also gain momentum. i would like the special services do not sleep, including, well, i absolutely. but i agree with this assessment and i want to say that this is now the period of the greatest. well, if i may, so to speak , vulnerabilities, uh, and prospects to spoil the situation. eh, i can put it this way until the end. for ukraine, this period will continue as soon as the goals of freedom are finally achieved. uh, the likelihood of any provocations or armed conflict in other areas in our region as a whole will be sharply reduced. we really need to be vigilant. here for this period. well, interesting pattern, the louder the doors slam in the west, the wider. they are plowed open in the east and in general, as they say in the global south to the most important international event, the brix themselves are key points, according to experts, the bloc secures geopolitical control over the middle
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east oil triangle of saudi arabia united arab emirates iran and everything is going so far. under the slogan of the dollar, we do not need plus egypt - this is control over the soil canal. the second important factor of the wounds has finally shaken up the image of the outcast that the west has been creating for so many years . russian screams. despite all attempts to cancel, the sixteenth next year takes kazan andrey vladimirovich will correctly say that the world has become different after johana prefabricated or it's too loud prematurely, while you need to give time to look no, if you do the binding exactly the assembly, that is, e movement has already begun. well, plus such an increase. yes, the movement started quite seriously. yes, the brix expansion is a step in that direction. but this is one of the steps. this is not yet a fundamental change in the situation, but without a doubt. this
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surprises me, even the very fact of consolidation in general of countries with very different ones. a political agenda with very different interests absolutely uncoordinated economic policy is called, well, in a certain variant. one might even say panic in the west. it is rather a sign that the collective west does not feel confident in its future, that their positions are much more precarious than we used to think. this is very interesting. confirmation. you will continue as a director in a crystal nadegival offers the international financial system to buckle up in the publication of foreign and ferris, and says that a number of powerful forces are stimulating the fragmentation of the world economy. you see, here is a very interesting moment. it changes the cause and effect of not powerful forces stimulating the fragmentation of the economy. and uh, the same countries of the collective west have brought the economic
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system of the world to a situation where fragmentation becomes inevitable and the lens. you can’t get away from this process, and by and large the reaction of both russia and china and, in fact, all the countries that have become brix that have applied for brix is an attempt to escape. uh, in the process of this destruction, protect your own interests of another question, that the position of the imf is a little different here . this movement is the inevitability of changing the global economic system. and she begins to speak very carefully, but if the situation changes, the accountant will still be needed. we don't need to be thrown out. we will come in handy, we will count the currencies of the brix countries, we will create a new financial system. there is such, in my opinion, in our cinema, do not shoot the pianist
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plays. how can yes. here she sends. it sends a signal. of course, very diplomatically very carefully. uh, good such a diplomatic practice, which i have encountered many times in my biographies, but they already declare that they are ready to serve the interests of other players. uh-huh, understand? well, i think that the trend is certainly obvious, this is such a drift, even though the centers of power are slow. uh, to the east and to the south, and here we are observing a very interesting process, but what happens, probably, once every 500 years, when the leader changes but this happens on over a long period. we are probably at the beginning, but it is extremely interesting that this is the nervous reaction of the west. that is, it is so used to its exclusivity that these challenges are symbolic so far to a greater extent
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of the unification of countries outside the west, and i liked the statement. the representative of the russian ministry of foreign affairs who said that, apparently, the countries of the west will never enter the brix. why, but, because we are partners against each other, cannot impose sanctions. and this is such a very important moral and ethical message that here we will organize, say the world order or its certain prototype under other rules. maybe this is such an idealistic idea, but this is a very clear message. west you have fenced yourself off from the majority of the world and now you will be isolated for us brix is first of all, what is brix for us in the first place. it seems to me at the moment. this is an opportunity to build up economic cooperation, because now there, and these processes are underway , coordination of consolidation, indeed , economies, different continents, different logistics there, in general, what should be in order to message to organize between these countries,
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but, nevertheless. us is able to calmly without sanctions. eh, without political pressure to look for partners to look for new markets, and plus, of course, a political and diplomatic platform to voice their initiatives to promote integration solutions, which, perhaps, we have already tested and have an idea of how this works and this tribune. e for well a significant part, if not more of mankind. this is very important, because where else can we voice something really important for the planet, because it is, but we see how many decisions are blocked there, so here in many ways. we can voice our voice, seriously. what fundamentally new opportunities does this give us? well, i would not talk about some fundamentally new opportunities. in fact
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, the union state with russia and the joint formation of our own macro-region give us fundamentally new opportunities, fundamental really serious opportunities. since we are talking about this topic. here is the core. we need to become part of the core of a new macro-region, since a bucket always has a higher standard of living and a faster pace of development, and brix for us is a tool for stabilizing this transition, stabilizing the formation, which allows, on the one hand, to ensure predictable supplies of belarusian products, primarily outside the country , which was very rightly said do not put forward political conditional decisions. this is a very important point. and this is an opportunity to make this transition to a multipolar world more predictable and not bloody, because from the west there is no doubt another strategy. they understand that they cannot
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launch neo-globalization on their own terms. and this means that they will create conflicts. as much as possible in all parts of the world. this means that we are still going through a very difficult period. tests. brix will let uh, torpedo this strategy to smooth this transition damn what what? it's all these two tools. yes, i would not even completely discount traditional international organizations, such as the un, after all, there still. there are still instruments of influence and are capable of consolidating all the same people from the country who are interested in such a more favorable development, as i say creation of the world for all, not for the elite. well, thank you. thank you very much. andrey vladimirovich alexey valeryevich for participating in our program every
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week the project heroes go in search of adventure, don't be surprised at the next task that brought me here to the thicket. they don't even realize. where will their fate take them this time. today you are going to osipovich, you can imagine how historical this city is for the first time in written sources. it is mentioned on february 25 , 1593 along with them and we follow interesting places and sights of belarus, there were two rivers, and it fulfills the desire of someone
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sees on the stone, the face of the mother of god. on the channel the world is collapsing, there is no longer the former globalization, that is, we are going through the trends of regionalization. we are an island of the world, around which the warring state is located , accuses us, but sorry, we did not send mercenaries there and they have nothing to supply with weapons afraid. we do not attack anyone in the same constitution, the republic of belarus has pledged not to wage an aggressive war with its territory. we know what we are against and what we need to be for this, but only these need to be and become in order to win the economic confrontation. we'll have to recreate. all those sectors of the economy that are of key importance for the normal life of the activities of our society and our state project markov nothing personal only the truth, which
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is always more interesting at home. look at tv channel belarus 24. we continue to have one more guest with us today in touch with the studio personality. a multifaceted russian intelligence officer, writer, brilliant political scientist, a huge audience knows and loves him as an electrician just talking about complex things. what is it that we often lack clarity in these turbulent streams of news, so we are really glad to our today's guest as a professor of the hemomember of the presidium advice on the foreign defense policy of russia andrey bezrukov andrey olegovich hello, thank you for taking the time for us good afternoon, i propose to start with ukraine. here is such a topic, the essence of which can be formulated in this way, fatigue from
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the ukrainian agenda. here the counteroffensive failed, pinpoint bites by drones, how the supply of leopards does not change the picture, and we see that the ukrainians themselves have become. here's to your point of view. why is the world so abruptly ceasing to be ukrainian centric - is this a natural process, or is it more informational and psychological before sudden actions, like in sports you look to the left and hit to the right i'll try tell me what i think about it. first, ukraine is a project. this project is not ukrainian. unfortunately, the ukrainians themselves have very little to do with this project. this is an anti-russian project. i'm russian for you, by the way, too. built by the west this project , like all projects, lives from time to time,
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as long as it is needed. and the tragedy of ukraine is that it has become a project. that its elites could not build a country that is permanent? forces of attraction constant interests constant understanding of one's place in the world, which would become permanent but in the absence that they are satisfied with the project. does the project have a beginning and an end? and now we already feel this end, what about those who built this project and who paid for it? he sees what they got from this project. well, almost everything you could get. and since it's scary to go further, i'm talking about nuclear war. and in general, they never had such
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thoughts, they had to do a few things that are clearly associated with this project, milk europe, weaken russia , pull out everything that can be pulled out of good ukraine and leave as they left, afghanistan , vietnam and all other things, when their interests no longer coincide with this project. and because it's a project? everyone understands that this project is nearing its end. and there is fatigue from him, because there are no forces that are capable or ready to take up to him and pull him to the end through his whole life through the whole history, and so on and so forth. it will be abandoned as soon as it is no longer needed. well, if we talk about ukraine as a project, we see the appetites of warsaw, which it does not hide, moreover peeks and on the territory of belarus in the camp of nato recently hinted ukraine may 115
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nato a new exchange for concessions to the territory, and russia but one thing is words and another thing is real deeds. here's what you think andrei olegovich how likely is the collapse of ukraine great precisely because it is a project. do you know that ukraine has had several attempts in history to make a country out of itself? and all these attempts ended in one end with the fact that someone with stronger elites, and the problem of ukraine is the lack of its own national elite. with an understanding of where they wanted to lead the country, who they are, they are east or west or something else. and just like ukraine has always been divided over the past, well, 400 years, i guess. she is divided now. and the division of ukraine according to
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those that make up its cultural block. he is closer the weaker the central power becomes, the weaker the understanding of the elite becomes, where to lead this country further, so the collapse of the country is possible? and in general it is logical after all, this is how ukraine lived for many years, there is an attraction to different west to east i can say about hungary about transcarpathia and so on, right? i can't say that's the way it will be. but the potential is there. it's absolutely exactly. there are countries. take poland the same, despite the fact that its borders have changed a lot. i cannot
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say that poland consists of different parts, which can suddenly be pulled apart, even if someone comes. russia cannot be pulled apart. but ukraine may fall apart. and the reverse process is still not completely lost, if the chance of ukraine is still from the category of a project country projects into the category of a full-fledged state and country. here is what is needed for this and not a missed moment. i think he's already gone. there was a moment when it was about 10 years ago, probably, when it was possible to concentrate on consolidating the elite on some kind of understanding. well, i don’t know, that is, such a bridge between east and west, or something else with those huge ones. well, how can i say this with a beautiful land, with a wonderful climate, with the industry that was created under
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the soviet union, ukraine was. well, varnish them with a piece, or something, for everyone she really is was wonderful. but i think the chance is gone now. the leadership that is now, it will go away, it will go away. in a crisis, she will leave in a bad way. and this means a chance for someone to stay and keep. is minimal to other topics. the more we look at the confrontation on the ukrainian front in general , the clearer the understanding, of course, that ours is not about moscow and kiev, but about the birth of a new world order and today this request for a new world. it is no longer just even in the air, but every day we hear such blows on the battery, another of them was the other day johannesburg. brix himself passed there, which the builders themselves called themselves. there's an expansion of journalists that the experts
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who were watching called all of this a challenge that the global south throws at the global west. this is how you see it, we are truly entering a new age now. absolutely you know our era can be compared with what it was 100 years ago. this is a transition from one world order to another, and it is both technological and political and economic, and now we will have a different economic picture peace. look, after all, the center of gravity is the center of industry, the center of the dynamics of the international economy goes to the east. and that's where we 're seeing growth, that's where we're seeing big countries and india, china, indonesia, and others.
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they are within their rights. a new structure of the world is being built. naturally, he, of course, is not on the periphery. but he is no longer the center. this is the center. now it is not clear, it turns out. such two poles, i don't want to call them poles, but one is growing and consolidating. and the second loses momentum, which is normal, because the era of the west the era of the liberal economy of the global economy is over now it is disintegrating. and brix is the solution when countries that don't want the world to be in chaos after this collapse. they take the initiative into their own hands and build a new system.
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but you once called andrei olegovich briks with the world of the majority. this was before the new members joined and the requests that were made it's now as it's never been relevant indeed this is the world of the majority, but here is a very important point, will this be enough of the majority of the will from solidarity, in order to build not a copy of what we are leaving now, something qualitatively new, so, is the solidarity of will enough for this breakthrough? well, according to the majority, sergei aleksandrovich karaganov spoke first, that is, i am not the author of this. well, you know, cohesion, it comes out of necessity. each of these serious states of china russia india brazil iran they see their national interests, and they understand that together, if they together build the rules of the game, according to which it will be more convenient to live more reliably.
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everything will be fine for them, if they do not build these rules of the game, then they will have to return to the system that did not accept them, did not recognize them and exploited them, and look at the dynamics, brix 15 years 10 years ago 5 years ago. it was like, well, between five countries. where in general? they met and talked about being sovereign. and they were leaving. and look at what is now and this is a dynamic. it will continue to accelerate and increase, because common projects appear, a common vision appears. it is forged and here is what does. the west helps a lot so that
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this other understanding can be forged faster. how is the denial of that stupidity? what the west is doing now is burying itself, in fact , back then, one international topic, we have been observing the development of events around niger for several weeks together with the whole world. well, a more profile experts, they say, niger, but from him he sees such a french colonial past, so we pay attention to those dictionaries that allow us to speak all the same nigers. uh, so here it is different answers and opinions are heard from the experts on this program to the question. will there be a big battle for africa, andrey levich, i want to clarify. do you think there will be a big war? you know it, if it will be, but there is such a potential. it will not be for africa , it will be between african countries for
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what will be africa you know, after all, when the colonial powers divided africa as asia by the way, like the middle east, they didn’t give a damn? where who lived and now, in fact, this is the same border. niger and nigeria part of nigeria is muslim, and part is catholic, and when none of the borders is really defined, and even more so in the desert and tribes roam between different countries. after all , as soon as the question arises. where is the border? it won't happen without blood. after all, everyone wants to force behind them, the resources of the population , livestock, and so on and so forth, but
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nothing is defined in africa. well, i'm exaggerating, but a lot is not defined, by the way, in asia, too , look at this pakistan, all the borders of pakistan are blurred on the one hand, a pashtun from the north where there is a border with another baloch. west with iran where is the border? here it is official, but people live there from one side and the other. but how will he behave when he is divided? and the potential is huge for all this to explode. and it has already exploded. i wouldn’t want to, of course, but if it comes there, hunger, if different players far from africa begin to set fire to its interests. everything can be. finally, i would like to know, for some reason
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this is the question. i would like to ask him. that's when the cis came out on screens cult film brother you will then have to work in the usa if i'm not mistaken, i don't know if you watched it or not, but for a whole generation here the picture has become something. well , like a hymn to a russian person, there is such a scene, it is very famous there. even those who haven't watched the movies. they usually saw it, where is the main character daniil bagrov he asks the americans, what is the strength? the power itself answers in truth. first of all, you agree with this that the power is in truth. and i agree, but you understand danila bagrov , as far as i hear it, i understood it to be true justice. there is some concept. that's what is right? and in this sense, the truth, but it's justice. when it is right yes, and the russian people are very sensitive, they
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do not live according to the law, and in fairness they are ready to endure the violation of the law, if it is fair, if they feel that it is necessary. it's different in the west, but still. that's when we realize what we're doing, it's right. we have this strength to endure. the strength to go forward, how much is needed until we win, and in this sense, the strength yes she's in truth truth is something you can rely on as the meaning of life is a brilliant answer. it suits us perfectly. andrey thank you very much for participating in our program , thank you very much andrey bezrukov, professor of the presidium of the council on foreign and defense policy of russia, was in touch with us
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