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countries, but the main events of this week's world politics. let's tell you right now , the country of gabun is located in central africa, there was a military coup , representatives of the law enforcement agencies arrested the president, canceled the results of the recently held elections and closed the borders of the country to gabun since 1967, permanently. bong family rules. first, omar bunga, and then his son ali, who even now held virtually no alternative elections, which angered the military. at the same time, all these years, the bunga clan adhered to an unambiguous pro-french orientation, and companies with the former metropolis had priority in developing useful ones. let's catch them in the gaboon this summer. this is already the second military coup in paris-oriented african countries, which, together with last year's military heavyweights in mali and burkina faso, effectively deprives france of influence on the continent.

estonian prime minister kaya kallas reaffirmed that she did not intend to resign after the scandal surrounding her husband's business activities in russia. earlier, the media reported that the transport company partially, owned by her husband, callas still continues to transport goods to russia; this information caused a great resonance in the public criticism. kallas noted that she was one of the most active supporters in estonia and europe of a complete cessation of business with russia; opposition politicians are demanding that kallas resign. i don't plan to retire. i, as prime minister, have stood and will stand for the freedom of ukraine and estonia, said okas , she noted that her husband’s company was not involved in transporting goods under eu sanctions for sanctioned goods. the rest of the business needs to be punished. the question of the moral compass said the prime minister apparently, in the family of the estonian prime minister with a compass, everything is

fine. president of ukraine volodymyr zelensky said that wartime corruption would be equated with state changes with such a statement. he spoke on the air of the all-ukrainian telemaran. according to ukrainian legislation, the maximum punishment for high treason is life imprisonment, according to the ukrainian leader. only such measures can overcome this phenomenon. however, opponents saw exactly the opposite motive in this proposal. zelensky's desire to protect himself and his entourage from exposing large-scale theft in a war. the fact is that now corruption cases are being investigated by the national anti-corruption bureau, closed in western embassies. and cases of treason are assigned to the jurisdiction of the sbu, which is completely subordinate to the president ; the changes proposed by zelensky will allow all high-profile investigations to be taken away from the hut, thereby protecting loyal officials and punishing those who oppose the president in some way are lobbyists. and the influence has already organized

a noisy campaign in the european and american press against the proposal of the ukrainian president. also in today's program, we are summing up the results of the counter-offensive, which ukraine and its western partners have talked about so much, and i will start with the fact that at the end of the 19th century , german field marshal helmut von moldke wrote and one plan of military operations cannot be considered reliable until the first meeting with the main enemy forces and about the great-grandson of field marshal bernard he serves in kiev in the position of deputy ambassador of germany and watching the failure of the counter-offensive so widely publicized in the west, he has the opportunity to directly verify the rightness of his great ancestor, then for some reason what was considered in the west as a guaranteed scenario for the military defeat of russia turned out to be only

huge losses. and is it worth it now to expect a radical change in the war and today's program will be discussed i am glad to welcome idukevich, deputy of the chamber, representatives of the national assembly, to our studio republic of belarus chairman of the liberal democratic party of belarus vladimir yernasyan associate professor of the department of sociology of the financial university under the government of the russian federation expert of the bureau of military-political analysis is with us today. hello and i am glad to welcome also in our studio waldemar hertz , german businessman, deputy of the bundestag of the 19th convocation, waldemar, who is extremely grateful to you for being with us today. thank you, i'm also glad, as usual, we start our discussion with a blitz question, the failure of the contour offensive of the armed forces of ukraine is a turning point in the war. oleg in many ways. yes, because lying is getting harder and harder. the fact is that the western elites themselves are well aware that russia cannot be defeated by military means,

what is the tragedy of the counteroffensive, that the ukrainians. how many thousands of people have died laying a grave. and those who give the order to advance know perfectly well that victory will not be a task alone. to prolong the war as long as possible at any cost to weaken the european union, the tragedy of europe and germany in particular, which she agrees to this. they understand that there will be no victory, but the americans said to fight, and the americans said to supply weapons, they, realizing this, continue to suffer the tragedy of ukraine in that the criminals send their terrible leadership to die , they know that they will not win. and this is the turning point in the fact that it’s already hard to lie everyone looks and asks, so what’s next no one believes, how german society views the given time period, because, of course, many in the west said that well, now we'll see

counteroffensive, which will be the key moment, but this did not happen. it is very difficult for me to add 100% agree with his analyst in the west. it is not right. these were units of the elite, which was put up by our overseas clod and chastised before him, wanted to work, gave him the people. this is necessary . freedom is being protected now in ukraine . well, the understanding is gradually coming that this is all nonsense, complete nonsense, the main task of this action is to destroy the economy of the european union so that we cease to be solvent buyers of chinese goods and only such way. uh, destroy with words to russia and,

by destroying the economy, you can stop the development of china, because the main confrontation is being built along this branch. vladimir maksimovich, the failure of the counteroffensive is the turning point of the war. since june 4, this circuit has been advancing in all operational-tactical operational-strategic areas, and we see that the tactics that the general staff of the russian federation resorted to have borne fruit. and this prepared multi-shelled defense is continuous engineering fortification mining barrier. and the high morale of a, uh, russian soldier. this has all borne fruit. and in all directions. it’s not just stalled, but practically it’s possible, as if oleg sergeevich correctly voiced the catastrophes , you can call what is happening now with the ukrainian military. this does not apply to manpower and military equipment . no, this is already clear, and no offense to the waldemaros from germany, the leopard turned out to be the same boxes that

speak like sparklers, in principle, by and large, all the vanderwafs are voiced. well, these are the weapons of vengeance there, which will decide as a turning point on the battlefield. everything turned out to be a bluff. here is the javelin in the do-patriot pact 3 and leopards will also be cef sixteenth of the old modifications in the western press in recent weeks, the main topics in ukraine are stories about how bad everything is in the ukrainian army, how strong the russian army turned out to be on the defensive. this means that the ukrainian counteroffensive, although not formally ended, was written off almost completely, the result of 12 weeks. achieved on a narrow stretch. the first of three lines of russian defenses taken 5-6 villages in the foothills most of the reserves prepared for the operation were spent. more on this in our story. judging by the latest publications of european and american media, it has become obvious to the west that the ukrainian counteroffensive has been ongoing for several weeks. something went

wrong. here is how the new york times describes the situation, ukrainian forces are facing staunch russian defenses and powerful russian aircraft, and judging by unverified photos and videos. losses in people and equipment are constantly growing, leading journalists the american publication admitted that in the first week of the counter-offensive, kiev forces recaptured tiny farming villages. and the whole process was often measured in yards, not in miles (foreign publications). they also tried to find at least some justification for the ukrainian failures, so all nns, citing two western high-ranking officials and one representative of the american military command, explained this by the fact that the russian forces demonstrate great competence. what was expected according to western estimates, and the explanation of ukrainian failures, according to the opinion of immediate management. vsu published wall street. jornall, military commanders have said they need time to reevaluate tactics and adjust to russia's vast minefields and

air attacks, however, military experts. it was surprising, after all, and the russian aviation minefields, everyone had known many of the places for a long time. they were even filmed by western satellites from completely k angles and why all this became some kind of surprise for the kiev command , some western buildings are a big question they predict that the main events of the counteroffensive are still ahead. so reuters writes that ukrainian forces must overcome the defensive orders that russia has been building for a month. kiev allocated 12 brigades for this, most of which have not yet entered the battle. bloomberg shares the same opinion according to military experts. in part, this is true, since only about a third of ukrainian reserves were ground into a counteroffensive. however, these were just breakthrough brigades, that is, the most trained and best equipped as well, incurred by them. the losses could not but affect the morale of the remaining fighters. those who were told that the russians would flee at

the first sign of danger can see another problem here, which was noted by a number of european media. the kiev regime publicized this offensive too much and now fell into the trap of its own. strong expectations, according to cnbc , long anticipation of the current offensive and the supply of modern western weapons, have led to inflated expectations and optimism that will serve kiev a disservice in the long run problem. however, in the fact that not only the kiev regime had expectations for the operation had great hopes, including by the allies, because ukraine spent months accumulating a powerful arsenal of western weapons and training tens of thousands of soldiers for the company writes the new york times. and now, as cnn emphasizes , the west is dissatisfied with the counteroffensive that does not live up to expectations on any front. it is a cover of a german handel, a broken ukrainian tank is drawn with an inscription. this is not an offensive. this is a failed crash test. if

the ukrainian offensive still fails, then the west will face a fork in the road. he may perceive this failure as a local failure and continue to wage a proxy war against russia but the west. other options for action are also noted; according to the wall street journal , if the counteroffensive fails, ukraine may be forced to compromise; in fact, the publication talks about freezing the conflict. at the same time, now only one thing is clear: ukraine is under great pressure from all sides, including those on whom its future fate depends. r. well, indeed, a number of publications appeared and quite a lot of them are critical - this speaks volumes about the honesty of the western media, which still dared to call a spade a spade. and how do you think this situation will develop in the future, because we understand that the west will sooner or later be forced to push ukraine into

negotiations. the question is different. will russia want to hold these negotiations? the question is, i think that russia will want this too, because, well, no matter how we say , the slavs are dying, young guys are dying on both sides and that’s all. this is not a russian plan and this is not a ukrainian plan was we, in principle, still playing according to the scenario that was given to us by the overseas elite or this uh, well, anglo-saxon conglomerate, and in order not to play according to this plan we must abandon this scenario, which they always ascribe to us. they are always forecasting it ahead and developing it forward. and we are forced to follow this line of theirs, stopping this conflict. uh, termination. eh, active military action is contrary to their plan,

and therefore this must be achieved and from this point it will be necessary to then build on and breathe everything else that they have done, as long as we follow their script , blood will flow, and they will rub their hands. we understand that it is their task that the media began to talk about it. it's simply impossible to hide. here is the rise of uh hmm our party. we are now in second place. i think that we will very soon be in first place in germany , which means that the protest potential has matured, people can no longer just lie, and the perversion of lies has reached its peak, and therefore, we need to add a little uh, well, some truth there, perhaps to reassure people, but now you won’t reassure, probably, this process has already passed through the critical zone and we expect big changes, both in germany in europe and in the world, continuation of your words. and

i would like to emphasize that i am authorized to say in an exclusive commentary for the program. the leader of the will of the masses movement from switzerland, nikolai remont, expressed the thoughts of europeans, their desire for their vision of the future, please ui un. we all want peace. we all want prosperity and we are sovereign states. we want to make independent decisions regarding whether we take part in this or that process, we, switzerland, are a neutral state and do not participate in any war. this crime against the constitution is contrary to our laws to take part, or send weapons to ukraine. this is wrong. we must remember what our peoples stand for. we want to live free, prosperous in peace. we want to remain neutral. we do not want to be part of a globalist agenda that deprives us of our national

sovereignty. in addition, it is important to note that the member of the dutch parliament, the leader of the forum democracy party, tiribado, said in an interview that today we are not witnessing a war between ukraine and russia, but a nato war against russia, and in this case russia is on the defensive , we will hear a direct speech. this is a nato war against russia, i think it was a provoked war. i think russia is the defensive side here. although they decided to attack first, this is beyond any doubt. clearly, this was a defensive move. because that if they didn't, there would be a massive nato offensive to take back crimea and eastern ukraine which russia

would never accept the united states would never accept if russia deployed a huge army in mexico uh and deliberately ignore it and to pretend that it is perfectly normal for the united states to create a huge army in a neighboring country that has a very unfriendly policy towards russia. but for russia, simply accepting this is either very, very stupid, or it means that you you provoke war because you have reasons for wanting it. i still think that at the moment when the west or the american deep state, or whatever you want to call it. stop yearning for this conflict the world can very very quickly return to our continent and i think that russia wants peace russia wants to make a deal ukrainians are obviously being killed in the tens if not hundreds of thousands and it's terrible. i feel very, very much for them. sympathy. they are very

sad. they are indeed the victims of american imperial ambitions. europe must have. relations with russia should have normal relations with ukraine, the united states, turkey, and so on and so forth. why should we wage this war against russia there is absolutely no point. a statement that today sounds polar yes, that's different from what else we heard six months ago, or a year and the voices of those europeans that were really impossible for us to hear today sound louder and louder. what does this mean? well, they used to study, they just shut their mouths. we see how europe is struggling with freedom of speech. how they fight politicians and deputies who tell the truth. they simply express the opinion of the majority of europeans, because in fact belarusians and russians do not need a conflict with europe. we do not want to be a confrontation with

europe, why do we need it, we live on the same continent. we dream of a good border, but normal trade do not interfere in each other's affairs. the europeans want the same thing, everything that is happening now is beneficial, only the americans want the europeans. it is not profitable. we don't need it the president held a meeting security council here is the main content. what was it? it would seem that there is such tension at the border? our country is being crushed and provoked, but what did he say about the world, let's extend our hand again. let's invite. if poland is so worried, he is lying that he is worried that we will attack. we will never attack, we need it, then we want to live in our own country, we will invite them to our exercises, accidents, please come, look at us, they are not calling anywhere already. and we don't want war. they provoke us. we don't want war and the president is constantly on meeting of the security council spoke about the world europe today should be grateful to belarus. we are saving her from war. we do not succumb to

the rhetoric of their politicians, we do not go anywhere militant. we are strengthening our defenses. moreover, they should thank us for tactical nuclear weapons, because then the poles will not be thrown to the front, because the americans will know that they will hit them. they sit on their island and are not afraid of war until they hit it. and if they already poke their nose into belarus , there will be no sv there will be a war and then they will receive, therefore, in europe there are more and more such voices, we should not turn away from europe. we must go through communication , leave communication with these politicians , find compromises, because sooner or later europe and russia will have revenge, i am convinced of this, because europe without russia is absolutely not an opposition. yes, absolutely with you there was this conflict. we need good peaceful relations. what else is worth paying attention to is the fact that after critical publications in

the media that represent the european union, or the united states of america and has deteriorated in support of ukraine’s finances, here is a new package, the forty-fifth package of american military assistance attracts attention in its compactness of 250 million dollars, which gives the total assistance for august at 450 million and at the same time i note, if we take the previous packages in within the framework of pdal, then in january ukraine was allocated an aid package of 5 billion for february 875 million . march 750 million and again june 825 at the height of the offensive 1.5 billion. and now august 450 million. obviously, the pentagon has taken up taking into account the pentagon is a lobbying organization, it is necessary to take into account in the us military-industrial complex all the generals who serve there from lloyd austin and all others are lobbyists for various companies such as martin rayton and so on, when they see that there is no result.

secondly, b. no, financial returns, they begin to think about supplies. and , of course, they want to reach europe. it is clear that they want to reach europe and germany as well, because the ring exchange that was proposed for olaf, when germany must compensate for the losses of the same slovakia, the czech republic, which gives its fleet of self-propelled guns to ukraine, and germany can supposedly compensate for its economic losses and its deindustrialization with the help of the so-called ring exchange. here we allow you to sell panzer howitzers and several leopards. this is when this is when uncle sam starts up and says guys. we allow you to earn a little money, throws the germans a bone, just a bone. and the germans look at all this, and they agree to buy fertilizers or gas at three prices to live as they do now live when the checks are 50% 75% increases the checks from the layman from the burgher. they want to live like this and now here are the voices from

waldemar and other adequate people, they are heard from germany. they understand that it is really the anglo-saxon conglomerate and puppets like scholz who now control these media that are preventing the germans from living normally. well, i wanted to add, regarding the fact that only 12 leopards were produced per year in germany. naturally such help. ukraine received from the same europe - this, unfortunately, is already irreplaceable resources. naturally, each of the states also thinks about their personal security. ukraine did not receive anything ; they plundered it for billions. everything was taken away, and then he helps. this is no help. everything was taken from ukraine, it has nothing, no land, no people, now it’s been taken away. eh, they threw the company to death, took away nothing from her, and then someone comes out and says, we helped ukraine. how did you help? you plundered and destroyed it. now pretend that it helps. it would be better if there was help. if this

fool in the green t-shirt had been forced to sit down by the scruff of the neck, and they threw him to negotiate so that the ukrainians would not die. that was help or put in a leopard. this old modification was launched into the minefield . you know, it still seems that in fact today the west does not want escalation, it is striving to move to a classic cold war, many years of containment, to a long-term strategy that has already been shown. once its effectiveness for this, the west needs to freeze the conflict. it would be good after ukraine’s victory, but given its impossibility, at least in its current state, ukraine is in this in this case, it would become for the west a frontier similar to the west german one. however, for this to work, sufficiently strong agreements with moscow are needed ; this is the basis for meaningful negotiations that could begin this fall or are already underway, and the argument on the part of the west could be just threats of direct intervention of its own, or the opening of a second front. so, can such a move on the verge

of a bluff work, voldemar yes, of course, of course . because a lot is at stake and now, well, the conflict is frozen and protracted its dormant state there for many years, this is impossible, because the economy of the european union will not stand it. uh, social riots will begin. riots will start. they'll start changing things, the government will follow an uncontrollable scenario, so, uh, everything will very much depend on the elections in the united states. if, uh, the administration that is now in power, uh, does take radical measures, open a second front , and get involved in that, uh, hmm, even worse, it will provoke, uh, a nuclear conflict. er, then, well , this will probably be the last war for humanity and this is nothing to us. well, he won’t forgive us and we all don’t need this. hmm, the second

option - yes. stop now to agree on the division of ukraine ukraine as an independent state has practically ceased to exist. remove cash subsidies, and, uh, the state will have nothing to pay for anything, that is, the state as such no longer exists, e and therefore it would be great if sensible heads sat down, well, without the narcotic fog, and discussed uh, the process. how to preserve, at least partially, the nationality of the ukrainian people ? identity within some framework and in some new, uh, realities, uh, socio-economic and political, but for this it is necessary that the administration change and other people enter the arena of decision-making. they are ready for it. i know that work is going on in this process. i hope they make it before the fatal scenario. still

, take it and rush. pull this steering wheel towards you so that there is no total talk about this in more detail, but now i would like to draw attention to the resonant interview, which shook up the media space of the interview. from alexander lukashenko, leader of the republic of belarus, ukrainian journalist, my colleague diana panchenko, and an extremely interesting , resonant fragment of this interview, which relates to the topic of our program today. let's see right now, russia will crush you there in manpower and strength and equipment. already those motivated ideologically minded nazis, as they were called nationalists? there are no strong ideological people, they are all dead already. who is fighting here already? who will you catch on the streets? and bring it here, they won't

prepared. well, there are few military men who will not be able to cope with this machine. russia has rebuilt itself. russia is at the front today. the latest weapons will already catch the drone. well, a completely different army and the most dangerous they are again, i don’t know whether to tell you or not to tell you, they have 200 50,000 volunteer corps, russia has 250,000, which are volunteers who are now trained and in reserves. you understand what 250,000 people at the front are now , the russians have less. the west is already beginning to understand that nothing will happen. even with the help ukraine will not be able to withstand the west. vladimir answers alexander lukashenko this is a cold shower for the ukrainian authorities today, well, do you think they are capable of hearing and drawing

conclusions. grigorievich is a person who has all the information that comes to him not only from an ally from moscow, but he also has his own special services that very correctly assess the situation at the front, so when he says something, and he appeals with numbers, then he has the information that russia can indeed voice across the entire range of weapons now, and it means that our russian military industry factories have exceeded their own. not only has raskih exceeded the production and it is an authentic production. this suggests that russia itself produces drones would be itself produces for things. the self-propelled guns themselves produce aircraft for things, both fighters and bombers, the latest bombs, guided, adjustable, we do it ourselves. we have motivated fighters. now, here, i’m generally with our marines , the guys are in zaporozhye and kherson

direction. this is the 810 marine brigade. there, during this time, each contract soldier learned not only how to operate a high-speed boat, but also how to be a grenade launcher. sniper at the same time place mines to clear mines and so on. all the fighters in this brigade and these guards brigades can unite more and more, vladimir vladimirovich, in his last interview he stated that, in principle, we are already ready for offensive actions, but those relations are positional, this is the story , which is related to the new shelled defense. this is active defense. this is zhukov’s tactics, when the enemy is ground down and only after that , when we already need to enter the operational space , therefore, when we talk about those statements that will be voiced by our main ally alexander grigorievich lukashenko because we have a common military infrastructure. we have a common positional area. we have a common air defense grouping of forces, which is concentrated here

on the territory. defends the common interest when he speaks, he knows he's talking to none mistakes until he made for all the time maksimych. i would like to draw your attention to a colleague’s card, please display the card on the screen. here we see the details, but let's pay attention to the map, which is in the lower left corner, we see the front line. we see for what a miserable piece of territory the most fierce battles were going on. you talked about the fact that they are grinding the orekhovskoye direction to the mir ledge. that's when we talk about this direction. there is such a settlement in the works. she's right there marines 810 and fifty-eighth. the army is one of the regiments of the guards. the guys are fighting there. so that's it for everything. this time, during the 3 months of the counteroffensive, only the north of the settlement, the northern part of the settlement , is where ukrainian forces are trying to gain a foothold. well, what can we say about the kupino direction there, uh, in three areas our people are already striving for the oskol

, right? that is, the group is concentrated, which means the kupska direction, then the borovaya or manskaya direction in three areas are already taken, populated areas and new ones are created frontiers. defenses go beyond natural barriers. six brigades have already been destroyed. you have six brigades - that’s more than 28,000 ukrainian military personnel. e men. here, look at the map, yes, and behind this map there are thousands of graves of ukrainians. these are thousands of graves, and at this time the morning will come again, gordon will tell fairy tales that everything is fine and soon the victory will be listened to for a year and thousands of graves, and now about the script. i agree, and the west will negotiate, but there are two options. americans can still do the first option to throw the most dependent of their satellites, it's more. the ukrainians are running out, but the poles are preparing about the village. why do the poor poles really believe that millions of dollars are now just like that? this money will have to be

worked off. and as one option with russia, the ukrainian front. how many poles have already died there, as volunteers supposedly the west missed the best moment for negotiations. they should have started in february, when putin would agree to better conditions for both the west and the kiev authorities. now. you must still grow something to offer. what they were at the negotiating table and happy for them that both putin and lukashenko are ready. at least tomorrow they will sit down at the negotiating table, so let them pray that putin will be re-elected in 2024, and so it will be in 25. lukashenka is salvation for the west let them rejoice and be baptized that they will continue to rule these at once. i remind you that on the air the program sas is authorized to declare we are talking about the failure of the counteroffensive of the armed forces

of ukraine, what next you know, i want you and i to hear a quote from mr. zelensky from recent and his interview where he says that he does not hold on to power, we will discuss this now, i would not like to fantasize that we would live without elections for 3-5-7 years. i don't want there to be an idea in relation to the authorities that they are holding on to something. i'm not holding on to anything. i would like to hold elections fairly. i would like to do this within a year. they are possible if the us and the eu are ready to provide us with the 5 billion that are needed to organize the presidential elections . the observer should be in the trenches, in fact, plans, and political ambitions mr. from zelensky's opinion, well-known we will rather not discuss them, but it is important to note that today we started talking about a possible change in the leadership of ukraine at the initiative of the west , this is exactly what we will talk about with the ukrainian journalist diana panchenko my dear colleague diana thank you very much for

being with us today greetings to the studio. nadezhda is very happy to see herself. and what about the probable probable change of power in ukraine , i am often asked that they say, how, how, how , how could the ukrainians be fooled in such a short time? how how could it be that despite the horrendous living conditions, despite the war, despite the arbitrariness, the authorities and ukrainians nevertheless support zelensky, what must happen for this support, and it still remains high, although compared there, for example, with the situation a year earlier, it decreased so that this support somehow began to fade, and i always answer and draw parallels zelensky will leave only when he decides to do so, the smell and support for him in ukraine will begin to decrease only when he starts to be drained in the west. these are the signs now. and here, a answering the question of whether this intraspecific struggle has changed at all against the backdrop of hostilities. now i can say, yes

, it has changed, it has become much tougher and zelensky has become much more driven, there are many examples of this. uh, one of the last cases there. this is mr. aristov, they are vacationing in the maldives in full swing. e in the fighting, while the people there are rowing to the front, until the people understand how the ends from the end of the whistle. this is a very close person, a zelensky person whom they tried, uh, to bring down all these years, because his position is very head of the budget committee, and nevertheless. now it has been leaked. leaked. very fast. this is what is surprising. diana very much. yes, yes, we are watching. naturally, we cannot ignore the news from ukraine, and now there is a feeling that, in parallel with the war, there has been a revival. this is an internal policy that was not much different from what it was before february 2022. and here are the same corruption scandals that you mentioned, zelensky’s fight with the orphans and even the family. and the same ones are present and it’s surprising that the war does not did not at all affect the composition and logic of the actions of those who consider themselves to be among the current

elite in ukraine; it influenced in the sense that zelensky became much more knowledgeable. that is , if before he was ready to fight for his people. if earlier, he somehow tried , at least everything that concerns zelensky’s entourage were people who could be called untouchable. mr. tishchenko is a most comical character. and who has been involved many times, both in corruption scandals and parties in the midst of the species. eh all the way they thundered in ukraine, nevertheless. he is ermak’s godfather, the most influential person in ukraine who, by and large , leads ukraine together with the west. because zelensky is a completely driven person in this sense. so even tishchenko is now leaking, that is, everyone is leaking. look at what 's happening with the uh, vankoman situation and the smell said they will fight, everyone will die, everyone will die, and now the screws are being tightened until the last moment. uh, review of all the, uh, certificates that were issued. they are suitable for

service they will all reconsider the same thing. there is also a dismissal of vancoms. and therefore, zelensky’s screws are being tightened more and more by and large, you know, now if we talk, if we draw an analogy, if we compare at all, i’m now actively uh immersed in the history of ukraine in retrospect, depending on ukraine’s dependence on the west, this situation even kuchma, who somehow tried to maneuver between russia and the west, was constant. in fact , he came to the conclusion that he was forced to do what the person who was there told him, and after that he didn’t the signing of the bush contract, when ukraine could join the construction of a nuclear power plant in iran and, uh, produce fast, technologically advanced products , earn hundreds of millions of dollars , after that kuchma wrote that how come we were simply developed from us, they only want raw materials from us, they want to manipulate us. they promised us mountains of gold, but did nothing, then after the chain mail scandal and scandal.

we were forced to start a scandal, uh, let’s say. change the rhetoric very, very much, and what can we say? uh, after uh hmm the signing of the minsk agreements agreements for a certain period, heaps, we participated in the negotiating group. again, his rhetoric was completely consistent with what they say in the west, in principle, all those people who i am now working with uh western organizations are quarreling, with other organizations. all these people have incriminating evidence about zelensky's attitude, you know very well what he can be like, please stay with us. yes , vladimir maksimovich agreed with all the theses that dian put in, except for one thing, that zelensky is not in turn. not he could have gone crazy himself and not tried to make the world of ukraine ukraine-centric, thereby boring the west. i'm saying that we often hear voices saying that he, in principle, is already becoming uncontrollable and very greedy. and this greed is still expressed. you need

to finance his demands, the elections with 5 billion dollars. and 350 million. you can hold any election, and here is 5 billion. where is the rest of the money? of course, he sends it into his pockets around the regions. this suggests that, by and large , i personally know just vladimir zelensky, he was the frontin of kvn at one time. yes, there and yes, i kind of knew him, we even drank there together, but i, uh, i’ll say, the frontman of any team of any kvn team or the frontman of the ninety-fifth quarter, by and large, you can go crazy. for the simple reason that at some point this artist may become pennywise , yes, that is, he may not be filling, that is , at some point the west will now turn around and look at what he is doing and he will understand is already being heard, adequate voices both in germany and in other countries in switzerland are heard then the question arises. how likely is it that in an effort to freeze the conflict and strengthen governance within ukraine, the west will soon replace the comedian

zelensky, who doesn’t give a damn about ukraine ? that’s even clearly understanding this, they are interested in their own interests, if in their interests, in order to solve the problem, it is necessary i speak figuratively of replacing zelensky with poroshenko. there is no poroshenko for anyone else. yes, the candidacy is being discussed by all managed by all completely they will do what is necessary, but if it were necessary, they will not do it, based on their interests. what didn't they do? how many times have the americans abandoned those they supported today all over the world, they pump them up with money, tomorrow they drain them and kill them themselves. is the west ready to say goodbye to zelensky’s candidacy and how to do this? well, there are many procedures. and how can this be accomplished, but i think, eh, yes, he has somewhere approached such a red line, where it will be harder and harder to carry him further, he allowed himself to do this before. well sayings

there about liverwurst about, uh, the president of germany with such a thing, ours swallowed it. this is all because they were told not to, well, the child is naughty. well, i slept a little badly, today, do not pay attention. he'll be fine soon. well, there is no correction. he is getting tougher and tougher in rhetoric and demands. the ever-living russia will someday come to a point when, for sure , american analysts will come to the decision that in order to change the situation in order for us to move into another phase. we need another leader this uh, did the moor did his job, must leave, please, have already been said. studio last name yes, this is poroshenko pritula but for some reason in ukraine only people from show business are vying for leadership positions. you said it very correctly in one of your interviews. well, probably ukrainians are ready to sacrifice

bread for the sake of the spectacle that they get. i don’t think that the lintel can be taken seriously, and ukrainians really vote, usually with emotions, but uh, ukrainians. in addition, the people are very contradictory. on the one side. i would like to see it from the other side. here's uh hmm craving for a strong hand request for a strong hand. he has always been, so long after these crimea and donbass, putin was one of the most popular foreign politicians in ukraine, and before that, on february 24, lukashenko was the most popular, and foreign politician in ukraine , so a request for a strong hand. he is and will now be one of those figures that can be seriously discussed. this is, first of all , laid in the second very budanov is definitely not a lintel. they are poroshenko not klitschko anyone these are also, in particular, those people who are seriously discussing, the west will tell you how this can happen, everything is very simple. eh, when zelensky is no longer needed, but he definitely will be. one day it won’t be needed, but it will appear in the press. moreover, the western does not become ukrainian

later, of course. there is a lot of interesting information, as i say , there is enough compromising evidence for the population. from his personal qualities and dependence to his apartment in london , offshore shields of corruption, which, against the backdrop of the war, is simply, well, cannot help but amaze, and then the level of his support in ukraine you will begin to decline when it starts to uh, knock down the smell of all sorts of sarosyat uh foundation organizations, the media of which are abundant in ukraine, which feel absolutely good. and i want to note that only those media outlets that today oversee the smell can somehow kick the authorities today. they don't touch. if there is some kind of caste that cannot be touched, then it is these soros, when, of course, he is replaced by another figure in the capacity of, i don’t know who this figure will lead ukraine, i don’t know. uh, vladimir volfovich said that zelensky the last president of ukraine, i do not rule out that this is so? uh, i don't think that will happen in the very foreseeable future, because for now.

uh, the west, uh, the west needs zelensky for him. a lot can be attributed to him, and a lot is still being written. i don’t think that in the foreseeable future we can talk about any kind of peace negotiations now. apparently, none of the parties to the conflict. these negotiations are not necessary, and ukraine is a country of conflicts. and i don’t think so at all, because ukraine is not independent. here in decision making to the vast great unfortunately. today this is a country that lives absolutely on debt and a country that is absolutely controlled by hmm ah and absolutely controlled. e from abroad, so this is the story, but budanov will continue to be masses, but not a single one will be promoted. uh, those laid down not so long ago met on the polish border with the leaders of nato generals, so this process is going on, nothing new, let’s say, while ukrainians are dying and suffering. let's see how forced

mobilization occurs in ukraine yes, diana and, of course, i can’t help but ask resonant interview with alexander lukashenko because i am convinced that many people in ukraine watched it. especially those who sit in pro-government offices, let’s call it that, but have they heard anything changed in their heads? thank you nadezhda for the wonderful question. we saw very, very many views both on my site and on the belarus 24 site on youtube . belarus 24 has just a colossal number, it seems that you already have more than 10 million. and this, despite the fact that youtube was very pessimistic about this video. how do you understand liberal content? is promoted in the first place , and such content is pessimized all uh, the ukrainian media

quoted, but the most important thing is what i am proud of, and it seems to me that the statement of the main intelligence directorate of ukraine uh, the main intelligence board, is definitely not ashamed of. e that this interview is a conversation between lukashenka and the west from ukrainians. everything is correct. well done, they understood, because first of all, alexander grigorievich, of course. in this interview i wanted to talk to the ukrainians and the ukrainians heard him and believe me, despite the fact that the media there are trying to twist it somehow way. there s- to insult and so on. i know for sure, i know very well and you nadezhda know the relationship. and ukrainians to lukashenko yes, after february 24, a lot has changed, but for many people it is still about the most authoritative, politician, a man who was able to keep his country. this man who was able to save his country. i 'll say one last thing. maybe i had a few words after before we arrived in minsk for the interview. lukashenko, i was in this wonderful city, your wonderful city, 2 years ago on the bolshoi

conversation, and then we checked into the minsk hotel. and i’ll remind you very well of the bartenders, and uh, there’s a bartender there on the first floor, which means he has such a colorful appearance, they went there for coffee. hmm such a page mood. i say, by any chance, you didn’t work here two years ago. he says, yes, i’ve been working here for 20 years. what am i talking about? but belarus is just a big deal. i understand that it is for young people. perhaps today this word, well, not the most attractive, much more attractive sounds like some yes, uh words high emotions, something else for today belarus against the backdrop of events. i when the body was received in minsk, drones were flying across moscow , missiles were flying across kiev, and in. uh, in minsk, uh, there are a lot of young people on the street, order, the cleanest streets , the most beautiful roads and parks, and, most importantly, a sense of peace and stability. this is exactly what needs to be preserved, and i know for sure that this interview became the message for

ukrainians, which to a very large extent will allow them to think for the first time that the war could have been avoided. he told lukashenko in an interview, second, that there is no there was no plan for kit for 3 days and no one reflected. lukashenka described this attack in great detail. what can happen to ukraine if it doesn't show up now. this is the same request for negotiations in general. it's about what's in store for all of us. you know that alexander grigoryevich will hear, and this is very good. thanks a lot. diana diana panchenko, a ukrainian journalist, was in touch with us. we are nearing the end of our program. and of course, it’s amazing that, of course, we started the program with a conversation about ukraine and situations on the battlefield. now we are talking about belarus, and these comparisons cannot be ignored. thoughts have been repeatedly voiced that belarus is what ukraine could become if we analyze the path of states today in terms of quality of life, comfort, and a

sense of security. i think the answers are obvious to many: in the ninety -first year, when the ussr collapsed , we had much fewer opportunities than ukraine ; ukraine had more starting opportunities than belarus and we, in a good way, are kind to them envy. unfortunately, they lost everything, and for all these 30 years they didn’t even want to turn us into ukraine, it would be worse, we have great geopolitical significance for the west and they really wanted to turn us into iraq, libya, syria, uh, into everything that anything, as long as it was anti-russia and a country without sovereignty. and when i hear a ukrainian journalist. you know, my heart hurts, i really wanted the ukrainians to live like this, and i also think that everyone should hear us and understand that we don’t need war. that's not expect aggression from belarus. we so appreciate this calmness, peace, silence for children, children, we went to school on september 1

peaceful sky, and poor ukrainian children go and fly. there, shells are dying in the donbass, they are dying in other places, it’s scary to look at it, we value peace, and we will do everything so that it is always like this here, hear us the whole world, belarus only wants peace, hear our president , hear the belarusian people. yes, vladimir maksimovich, belarus is a frontier. e of our union state. this is a fortress crossing. this is woodland, borderland. this is where the guardian should be and he is. one of the most reliable allies, if not the most reliable ally of russia, is belarus and lukashenko, he personifies reliability with himself, when i listened to the interview. and not only did i analyze those interviews that were compiled earlier, he spoke about the world and that the only one , it would be possible, under certain circumstances, to negotiate in ukraine, the military could certainly become.

he didn't mean budanov because it the killer person compromised himself by the fact that he participated in the preparation of terrorist acts of sabotage raids and political assassinations, but other figures. perhaps not so noticeable and not so media among the generals. perhaps, according to the information of alexander grigoryevich lukashenko, there are such figures with whom, under certain circumstances. if there is the will of the russian leadership, it would be possible to carry out some changes. but these negotiations are still a matter of the future, because russia wins in all operational strategic directions. we have the task of carrying out the plan of the general staff and creating a sanitary zone so that there are no attacks by either drones or unmanned vehicles without crew boats and everything else, including the harpoon anti-ship missile supplied by britain, as well as storm shadow from the kelps that the french gave and so on. so

let's take a calm look at the situation and do what we have to do, because we'll see what happens next. you know , the short memory of ukrainians has always amazed, because today everyone is focused exclusively in positions where the aggressor is, where is the victim, forgetting that it preceded the war and that it was the treatment of the minsk agreements, everyone today also forgot the possibility, there was a lot, there was no desire, but rather a solution. go to these talks waldmarker, please, the final word of today's program. politics is the art of compromise. i agree with this, but uh, the president of belarus, he is capable of compromises, but these compromises do not cancel the honor and conscience of the word, so it has become fashionable

in the west. i gave my word. i took it. i said, i forgot and this is considered the art of diplomacy and is considered the ability to compromise - this is a lie. this is immorality. this is the cohort of politicians that should go into oblivion, and listening to lukashenka, i know that every word that he says, he stands for him, and even when it is not very convenient for him, he still stands behind this great respect for his position from -for his position, it is precisely the geopolitical position that he occupies. yes, belarus has become. anchor anchor stabilization and uh, god forbid that this continues. i'm sure around he is not alone in the political arena of such leaders, but a cohort of new politicians will gather around such leaders, who will clearly understand what conscience, honor,

responsibility to their own people means. e responsibility for the given word and those who are able to seek to find compromises. eh, and come to positive results of their activities. i believe in it. i am working on this and we will see a new europe, but as soon as this redistribution of today ends, and he will want it soon. and we believe in this, i am grateful to all the participants in today's discussion and i think the result of the discussion may be in the understanding that the general direction of the dynamics of conflicts in general is obvious to all thinking people and it is difficult to talk about the timing and final results of this bloody war. but the fact that the hope of kiev and its western curators for a military victory over russia dissipated like smoke. it is clear to everyone who is inclined to reflect and analyze, and not blindly believe in zelensky's propaganda, the issue. now only in how many more lives this war will take. here it is appropriate to recall

the words of the great military theorist karl clausowitz capitulation is not a disgrace. a good general will not lure the last remaining soldier alive. ideas of struggle, just like a good chess player will not continue a game that he knows he has lost. thanks it was a program, sas is authorized to state. ukraine and the west have no chance of a military victory over russia people who inspire i like the path itself. when i achieve some goal, i don’t have such that i start to be proud of myself. no, i have achieved this so much that the next people who have what to tell a way to lose weight is a refrigerator

with a lock. well, somewhere the fastest and plus another run. here, then everything will be fine. i am a trainer because i can not always adequately assess myself, distribute the load and draw up a nutrition and training plan. watch the belarusians