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the president; the results of the recently held elections were canceled and the country's borders were closed to gabon since 1967, without fail. bong family rules. first omar bunga, and then his son ali, who even now held virtually uncontested elections, which outraged the military. with all these years the bong clan adhered to an unambiguous pro-french orientation, and companies with the former metropolis had priority in the development of useful ones and they were in production over the summer. this is already the second military coup in paris-oriented african countries, which, together with last year’s military tensions in mali and burkina faso, actually deprives france of influence on the continent. prime minister of estonia kaya kallas reaffirmed that she does not intend to resign after the scandal surrounding her business activities and her husband doing business in russia earlier media reported that the transport company partially

owned by her husband, callas, still continues to transport goods to russia; this information caused a great resonance in the public criticism. kallas noted that she was one of the most active supporters in estonia and europe of a complete cessation of business with russia; opposition politicians are demanding that kallas resign. i don't plan to retire. i, as prime minister, have stood and will stand for the freedom of ukraine and estonia, said khalas. she noted that her husband's firm was not engaged in transportation to russia of goods subject to eu sanctions for sanctioned goods. the rest of the business needs to be punished. the question of a moral compass was said by the prime minister, apparently, in the family of the estonian prime minister, everything is fine with a compass. president of ukraine vladimir zelensky said that corruption in wartime will equate government changes with such a statement he made on the air of an all-ukrainian telethon. according to ukrainian legislation, the maximum punishment for

high treason is life imprisonment , according to the ukrainian leader. only such measures able to overcome this phenomenon. however, opponents saw exactly the opposite motive in this proposal. zelensky’s desire to protect himself and his entourage from exposing large-scale theft during war. the fact is that corruption cases are now being investigated by the national anti-corruption bureau, which is closed to western embassies. and cases of high treason are assigned to the jurisdiction of the sbu , which is completely subordinate to the president . the changes proposed by zelensky will allow all high-profile investigations to be taken away by the sbu, thereby protecting loyal officials and to punish those who oppose the president in some way lobbyists of western influence. they have already organized a noisy campaign in the european and american press against the proposal of the ukrainian president.

also in today’s program, we summarize the results of the counteroffensive, which ukraine and its western partners have talked about so much, and i’ll start with the fact that at the end of the 19th century, german field marshal helmuth von moltet wrote that not a single plan for military operations can be considered reliable until the first meeting with the main forces the enemy and about the great-grandson field marshal bernard he quietly serves in kiev as the deputy ambassador of germany and observing the failures of the counter-offensive so widely advertised in the west, the armed forces have the opportunity to directly verify the correctness of their great ancestor about why what in the west was considered a guaranteed scenario for the military defeat of russia turned out to be only huge losses. and should we now expect a radical turn in the war ? today’s program will be discussed. we are pleased to welcome dukevich, deputy, to our studio. house of representatives of the national assembly of the republic of belarus chairman

of the liberal democratic party of belarus good afternoon vladimir ernasyan associate professor of the department of sociology of the financial university under the government of the russian federation an expert from the bureau of military-political analysis is with us today. hello and i am glad to welcome also to our studio waldemar hertz, a member of the bundestag of the 19th convocation, a german entrepreneur. valdemar is extremely grateful to you for being with us today. thanks, i'm also glad, as usual, we're starting our discussion with the blitz question: the failure of the offensive contour of the armed forces of ukraine is a turning point in the war. oleg in many ways. yes, because it’s getting harder and harder to lie. the fact is that the western elites themselves know very well that russia cannot be defeated by military means, what is the tragedy of the counter-offensive, that of the ukrainians. how many thousands of people have died and lay their graves. and those who give the order to attack know very well that victory will not be a task alone. to prolong the war as long as possible

at any cost to weaken the european union, it’s a tragedy for europe and germany in particular that she agrees to this. they understand that there will be no victory, but the americans said to fight, and the americans said to supply weapons, they, realizing this, continue to suffer , the tragedy of ukraine is that their terrible leadership sends criminals to die , they know that they will not win. and this is the turning point in the fact that it’s already hard to lie. everyone looks and asks, so what next no one believes in victory, as german society views this time period, because, naturally, many on in the west they said that now we will see a counter-offensive, which will be the key moment, but this did not happen. it's very hard for me to add. here are the words of agreement with

his analyst. but many in the west this is wrong. these were units of the elite, which were appointed by our zaorkyan regional committee and report to it for the work they wanted. she inspired the people in him. this is necessary, what is needed freedom is now in ukraine, uh, well, gradually the understanding comes that this is all nonsense, complete nonsense, the main task of this action - this is to destroy the economy of the european union so that we cease to be solvent buyers of chinese goods and only in this way. eh, destroy russia with words and, by destroying the economy, you can stop the development of china because the main confrontation is being built along this branch. vladimir maksimovich failure counter-offensive turning point. since june 4, this

offensive contour has been going on in all operational-tactical operational-strategic directions, and we see that the tactics that the general staff of the russian federation resorted to it has borne fruit. and this is a prepared multi-layered defense, continuous mining, engineering fortification barrier. and the high morale of the, uh, russian soldier. all this has borne fruit. and in all directions. it’s not just stalled, but it’s practically possible, as oleg sergeevich correctly voiced , what’s happening now with the ukrainian military can be called a disaster - this concerns manpower and military equipment of no kind in the interwafa. no, this is understandable, no offense to waldemar from germany, the leopards turned out to be the same boxes that speak like sparklers, in principle, by and large, the wonderwaf is voiced. well, these are the weapons of retaliation there, which will decide as a turning point on the battlefield. it all turned out to be a bluff.

here is the javelin of the pre-patriots pact 3 and the leopards will also be ceph sixteenths of the old modifications in the western press in recent weeks, the main topics in ukraine are stories about how bad everything is in the ukrainian army, how strong the russian army turned out to be in defense. this means that the ukrainian counteroffensive, although not formally ended, was written off almost completely, the result of 12 weeks. reached in a narrow area. the first of the three lines of russian defense was taken five six villages in the foothills most of the reserves prepared for the operation were spent . more on this in our story. judging by the latest publications of the european and american media, it has become obvious to the west in the ukrainian counteroffensive that has been going on for several weeks. something went wrong. this is how the newspaper describes the situation: new york times, ukrainian forces face stalwart russian defenses and powerful russian air power, based on unverified photos and videos. losses in people and equipment

are constantly growing journalists from a leading american publication admitted that in the first week of the counteroffensive, kiev forces recaptured tiny farming villages. and the whole process was often measured in yards, not in miles (foreign publications). they also tried to find at least some justification for the ukrainian failures, so all hh citing two high-ranking western officials and one representatives of the american military command explained this by saying that russian forces demonstrate greater competence. what was expected according to western estimates, and an explanation of ukrainian failures, according to the immediate leadership. vsu published wall street. jornall, military commanders said they needed time to reassess tactics and adapt to russia's vast minefields as well as air attacks, but military experts said. this was surprising, because russian aviation had known minefields for a long time, many of the places. even were filmed by western satellites from completely k

angles and why all this was some kind of surprise for the kiev command is a big question . some western buildings predict that the main events of the counteroffensive are yet to come. so reuters writes that ukrainian forces must overcome the defensive orders that russia has been building for a month. kiev allocated 12 brigades for this, most of which have not yet entered the battle. bloomberg shares the same opinion according to military experts. this is partly true, because in the counteroffensive crushed only about a third of ukrainian reserves. however, these were just breakthrough brigades, that is, the most trained and best equipped as well as the scale incurred by them. the losses could not but affect the morale of the remaining fighters. those who were told that the russians would flee at the first sign of danger can see another problem here, which was noted by a number of european media. the kiev regime publicized this offensive too much and now fell into the trap of its own. strong expectations, according to cnbc

long expectations of the current offensive and the supply of modern western weapons have led to high expectations and optimism that will serve kiev in disservice in the long run problem. however, the fact that not only the kiev regime had expectations for the operation had great hopes, including by the allies, because ukraine spent months accumulating a powerful arsenal of western weapons and training tens of thousands of soldiers for the company , the new york times writes. and now, as cnn emphasizes , the west is dissatisfied with the counter-offensive lives up to expectations on every front. it is a cover of a german handel, a broken ukrainian tank is drawn with an inscription. this is not an offensive. this is a failed crash test. if the ukrainian offensive does fail, the west will face a fork in the road. he can take this failure as a local failure and continue to wage a proxy war against russia but the west. they also note other options

for action, according to the wall street journal, if the counteroffensive fails, ukraine can be forced to compromise, in fact, the publication speaks of freezing the conflict. at the same time, only one thing is clear, ukraine is under great pressure from all sides, including those on whom its future depends. r. well, indeed, a number of publications have appeared and quite a lot of them are critical - this is what it says, but the honesty of the western media, which nevertheless dared to call a spade a spade. and what do you think, how will this situation develop in the future, because we understand that the west will sooner or later be forced to push ukraine to negotiations. the question is different. will he want to should russia conduct these negotiations? the question is, i think that russia will also want this, because, well, no matter how we say

, slavs are dying, young guys are dying from both sides and that's it. this is not a plan of russia and this is not a plan of ukraine, we, in principle, are still playing according to the scenario that the overseas elite asked us or this, uh, well, anglo-saxon conglomerate, and in order not to play according to this plan, we must abandon this the scenario they always attribute to us. they are always forecasting it ahead and developing it forward. and we are forced follow this line of theirs, stop this conflict. eh, stop. eh, active hostilities are contrary to their plan, and therefore this must be achieved, and from this point it will already be necessary to push off and strangle everything else that they have done, as long as we follow their scenario, blood will flow, and they will rub

their hands. we understand that it is their task that the media began to talk about it. it's simply impossible to hide. here is the rise of uh hmm our party. we now in second place. i think that we will very soon be in first place in germany, it says that the protest potential has matured, people can no longer lie just like that, and the perversion of lies has reached its climax, and therefore we need a little uh, well, pour the truth into it, perhaps reassure people, but now you can’t calm it down, probably, this process has already passed through the critical zone and we expect big changes both in germany, in europe and in the world, a continuation of your words. and i would like to emphasize that in an exclusive comment for the program, sas is authorized declare. the leader of the will of the masses movement from switzerland, nicolai remonté, expressed the thoughts of the europeans, their desires for their vision of the future,

please yi. ooh, wound. triss, we all want peace. we all want prosperity and we are sovereign states. we want to make independent decisions about whether we take part in this or that process, we switzerland are a neutral state and do not participate in any war. this crime against the constitution is contrary to our laws to take part, or send weapons to ukraine. this is wrong. we must remember what our peoples stand for. we want to live free, prosperous in peace. we want to remain neutral. we do not want to be part of a globalist agenda that deprives us of national sovereignty. in addition, it is important to note that

the member of the dutch parliament, the leader of the forum democracy party, tiribado, said in an interview that today we are not witnessing a war between ukraine and russia, but a nato war against russia, and in this case russia is on the defensive , we will hear a direct speech. this is a nato war against for russia, i think this was a provoked war. i think russia is the defensive side here. although they decided to attack first, this is beyond any doubt. clearly, this was a defensive move. because if they didn't, there would be a massive nato offensive to take back crimea and eastern ukraine, which russia will never accept the united states would never accept if russia deployed a huge army in mexico uh and deliberately ignore it and pretend

that it is perfectly normal for the united states to create a huge army in a neighboring country that is pursuing a very unfriendly policy towards russia. and for russia, simply accepting it is either very, very stupid, or it means that you are provoking a war because you have reasons to want it. i still think that at the moment when the west or the american deep state, or whatever you want to call it. stop yearning for this conflict, the world can very, very quickly return to our continent and i think that russia wants peace russia wants to make a deal ukrainians are obviously being killed by the tens, if not hundreds of thousands, and it's terrible. i feel very, very much for him. sympathy. they are very sorry. they are indeed the victims of us imperial ambitions europe should have. relations with russia should have normal relations with ukraine, the united

states, turkey, and so on and so forth. there is absolutely no point in why we should wage this war against russia. a statement that sounds polar today yes, that's different from what else we heard half a year ago, or even a year, and the voices of those europeans who really were impossible for us to hear today sound louder and louder. what does it say? well, they studied it before, they just shut their mouths. we see how europe is struggling with freedom of speech. how they fight politicians and deputies who tell the truth. they simply express the opinion of the majority of europeans, because in fact belarusians and russians do not need a conflict with europe. we don’t want to be in confrontation with europe, why do we need this? we live on one continent. we dream of a good border, but normal trade do not interfere in each other's affairs. the europeans want the same thing, everything

that is happening now is beneficial, only the americans want the europeans. it is not profitable. we don't need it. the president held a meeting of the security council. here is the main content. which one was it? it would seem that there is such tension at the border? our country is being crushed and provoked, but what did he say about the world, let's extend our hand again. let's invite. if poland is so worried, he is lying that he is worried that we will attack. we are if we never attack, we need it, then we want to live in our own country more, we will invite them to our dkb exercises. please, come, look at us, they are not calling anywhere already. and we don't want war. they provoke us. we don't want war and the president constantly spoke about peace at the meeting of the security council. europe today should be grateful to belarus. we save her from the war. we do not succumb to the rhetoric of their politicians, we do not go anywhere militant. we are strengthening our defenses. moreover, they should thank us for the tactical nuclear weapons, after all, then the poles will not be thrown to the front, because the americans will know that

they will hit them. they are sitting on their island, they are not afraid of war until they hit it. and if they already poke no svo into belarus, there will be no war and then they will get it, therefore, in europe there are more and more such voices, we should not turn away from europe. we must go on communication , leave to communicate with these politicians , find compromises, because sooner or later europe and russia will take revenge on this i am convinced, because europe without russia absolutely no position. yes, absolutely with you there was this conflict. we need good peaceful relations. what else is worth paying attention to is that after critical publications in the media that represent the european union or the united states of america and the support for ukraine's finances has worsened , the new package of the forty-fifth package of american military assistance draws attention to itself in its compactness 250 million dollars, which gives

a total assistance for august of 450 million and with i would like to note that if we take the previous packages under the pdal, then in january ukraine was allocated a package of assistance for 5 billion for february 875 million march 750 million and again june 825 at the height of the offensive 1.5 billion and now august 450 million it is obvious that the pentagon was engaged in taking into account the pentagon - this is a lobbying organization, the organization must be taken into account in the us military-industrial complex, all the generals who serve there from the austin loid and all others are lobbyists for various companies such as catching martin rayton and so on, when they see, that a no result. secondly, b. no, financial returns, they begin to think about supplies. and, of course, they want to reach europe. it is clear that they want to reach europe and germany , including, because there is a ring exchange

, which is proposed when germany must compensate for the losses of the same slovakia to the czech republic , which give their fleet of self-propelled guns to ukraine and germany allegedly can compensate for its economic losses and its de-industrialization with the help of the so-called ring exchange. here we allow you to sell panzer howitzers and several leopards. this is when this is when uncle son starts up and says guys. we allow you to earn a little money throws the germans a bone, just a bone and the germans look at all this, and they agree to buy fertilizers or gas at three prices to live, as they live now, when checks by 50% increase by 75% checks from the layman from the burgher. they want to live like this and now here are the voices that are heard from waldemar and other adequate people from germany they understand that it is really an anglo-saxon conglomerate and puppets like scholz are now running

these media that prevent the germans from living a normal life. well, i wanted to add, but with regards to the fact that only 12 leopards were produced in germany per year. naturally such help. received from the same europe ukraine is, unfortunately, already irreplaceable resources. naturally, each of the states also thinks about their personal security. ukraine did not receive anything ; they plundered it for billions. they took everything, and then they help. this is not help. everything was taken from ukraine, she has nothing, there is no land people have now been taken away. uh, they threw the enterprise to death, took away nothing from her, and then someone comes out and says, we helped ukraine. as you helped, you plundered it and destroyed it. now pretend it helps. help would be better. if this fool in the green t-shirt was forced to sit down, they took him by the scruff of the neck and threw him to negotiate so that the ukrainians would not die. that was help or put in a leopard. it was this old modification that launched the minefield . you know, it seems, after all,

that in fact, even today the west does not want an escalation, it is striving to move on to the classic cold war, long-term containment to a long strategy already shown. once its effectiveness for this, the west needs to freeze the conflict. it would be nice after the victory of ukraine , but if it is impossible, at least in the current state, ukraine in this case would become for the west a frontier similar to the west german one. however, for this to work , we need fairly strong agreements with moscow, this is the basis for meaningful negotiations, which may begin this autumn or are already underway and the argument from the west may be just the threat of direct intervention of its own, or the opening of a second front. can such a move on the verge of a bluff work, waldemar yes, of course, of course because there is a lot at stake and now, well, freezing the conflict and dragging

it out there dormant for many years, this is impossible, because the economy of the european union will not withstand this . uh, there will be social riots. riots will start. let's start change, the government will go all over the uncontrolled son, so uh, everything will depend very much on the elections in the united states if uh, the administration that is now in power, uh, will still take drastic measures , even worse , provoke, uh, a nuclear conflict. uh, then, well , this will probably be the last war for humanity and this is none of us. well, he won’t forgive and we don’t need all of this, well, the second option is to stop. now to agree on the division of ukraine ukraine as independent states practically ceased to exist.

remove cash subsidies, and uh, the state will have nothing to pay for anything, that is, the state, as such , no longer exists, uh, and therefore it would be great if sensible heads sat down, well, without drug haze and discussed, uh, the process. how to preserve, at least partially, the nationality of the ukrainian people, its identity within some framework and in some new realities, uh, socio-economic and political, but for this it is necessary that the administration and other people entered the arena of decision-making. they are ready for it. i know that work is going on in this in this process. i hope they make it before the fatal scenario. still, take it, and jerk this shaft to pull it towards you so that we don’t talk about it in more detail, but now i would like to draw attention to a resonant

interview that shook up the media space of the interview. e alexander lukashenko, leader of the republic of belarus , ukrainian journalist, my colleague diana panchenko, and an extremely interesting resonant a fragment of this interview that relates to the topic of our program today. let 's see right now now russia will grind you there manpower and strength and equipment. already those motivated ideologically minded nazis, as they were called nationalists? there are no strong ideological people, they are all dead already. those who are fighting here are already those whom you catch on the streets and bring here, they are not prepared. well, there are few military men who will not be able to cope with this machine. russia has rebuilt itself. russia is at the front today. the drone will already grab the latest weapons.

well, a completely different army and the most dangerous they are again, i don’t know whether to tell you or not to tell. they have 200 50,000 volunteer corps. russia has 250,000, which are still yes dobrovolsky, who is now trained and in reserve. 250,000 at the front now the russians have less the west is already beginning to understand that nothing will happen. even with the help of the west, ukraine will not be able to withstand. vladimir answers alexander lukashenko this is a cold shower for the ukrainian authorities today, well, do you think they are capable of hearing and drawing conclusions. alexander grigorievich man, who has all the information that comes to him not only from an ally from moscow, but he also has his own

special services that very correctly assess the situation at the front, so when he says something, and he appeals with numbers, he possesses the information that russia can really voice in terms of the entire range of weapons now, and it means that our russian military industry has exceeded its own factories , not only the growth of those that have exceeded production, and this is authentic production. this speaks of the fact that russia itself produces drones would produce things itself. the self-propelled guns itself produces aircraft, both fighters and bombers, the latest bombs, controlled and adjustable, we do it ourselves. we have motivated fighters. now, in general, i and the marine corps, our guys are stationed in zaporozhye and in the kherson direction. this is the 810th marine brigade. there, during this time, each contract soldier learned not only how to operate a high-speed boat, but also how to be a grenade launcher. sniper at the same time place mines, clear mines, and so on.

all the fighters in this brigade and these guards brigades can unite more and more, vladimir vladimirovich , in his last interview he stated that, in principle, we are already ready for offensive actions, but those relations are positional, this is the story , which is associated with a much planned defense, this is active defense. this is zhukov’s tactics, when the enemy is ground down and only after that, when it is already necessary to enter the operational space therefore, when we talk about the statements that our main ally alexander grigoryevich lukashenko will make, it is because we have a common military infrastructure. we have a common position area. we have a common air defense group of forces, which is concentrated here in the territory. try to protect the common interest, when he speaks, he knows that he says not a single mistake, until he made a for all the time. come in, maxim would like to draw attention to the card of a colleague, please display the card on the screen. here we

see the details, but let's pay attention to on the map, which is located in the lower left corner , we see the front line. we see for what tiny part of the territory the most intense fighting took place. you talked about grinding the orekhov direction and time ledge. that's when we talk about this direction. there is such a settlement about work, it is just there that the marines are 810 and fifty-eighth. the army is one of the guards regiments. the boys are fighting. so that's it for everything. this time for 3 months of the counteroffensive is only the north, the northern part of the settlement ukrainian forces are trying to gain a foothold. what can we say about the kupino direction there, uh, in three areas of ours they are trying? which one already ? that is, the group is concentrated , which means that the kupska direction, then the borovaya or manskaya direction in three areas are already taken, populated areas and new frontiers are created. defenses come out as a natural barrier.

six brigades have already been destroyed. you have six brigades - that’s more than 28,000 ukrainian military personnel. e men. here, look at the map, yes, and behind this map there are thousands of graves of ukrainians. these are thousands of graves of the catastrophe, and at this time the morning will come again, the arrestor gordon will tell tales that everything is fine and soon victory has been listening to this for a year and thousands of graves, and now about the script. so i agree, and the west will negotiate. well, there are two options. the first option is that the americans can still dump their most dependent satellites. this is bigger. the ukrainians are running out, but the polyakov are preparing for the settlement. why do poor poles really believe that millions of dollars are here now just like that? this money will have to be worked off. and how alone option with russia ukrainian front. how many poles have already died there, as volunteers supposedly the west missed the best moment for

negotiations. they should have started in february , when putin would have agreed to better conditions for both the west and the kiev government. now. you still have to develop something to offer, what was brought to the negotiating table and happiness for them that both putin and lukashenko are ready. at least tomorrow we will sit down at the negotiating table, so let them pray that putin will be re-elected in 2024, so it will be in the twenty-fifth. lukashenka is salvation for the west let them rejoice and be baptized that they will continue to rule these countries. i remind you that on the air the sas program is authorized to declare that we are talking about the failure of the counter-offensive of the armed forces of ukraine, what next , you know, i want you and i to hear a quote from mr. zelensky from a recent and his interview where he says that he does not hold on to power, we will discuss it now, i

would not i wanted to fantasize that we would live without elections for 3-5-7 years. i don’t want the authorities to have the idea that they are holding on to something. i don't hold on to anything. i would like to hold elections fairly. i would like to do this within a year. they are possible if the us and the eu are ready to provide us with the 5 billion we need to organize the presidential elections. observers should be in the trenches in fact the plans, but the political ambitions of mr. zelensky opinion. we will probably not discuss them, but it is important to note that today we started talking about a possible change in the leadership of ukraine at the initiative of the west, this is what we will talk about with ukrainian journalist diana panchenko my dear colleague diana thank you very much for being with us today greetings to the studio. nadezhda is very happy to see herself. and what about the probable probable change of power in ukraine, i am often asked that they say how, how, how it means that the ukrainians were able to

fool for such a short time. how can it be that, despite the horrendous living conditions, despite the war, despite the arbitrariness, the authorities and ukrainians nevertheless support zelensky, what must happen for this support, and it still remains high, although compared there, for example, with the situation a year earlier, it decreased so that this support somehow began to fade away, and i always answer and draw parallels. zelensky will leave only when the west and his support in ukraine decide so . he will come only when they begin to dump him in the west, if such signs now. yes, uh, answering the question. has this intraspecific struggle changed in any way against the backdrop of military operations? now i can say, yes , she has changed, she has become much tougher and zelensky has become much more driven there are many examples of this, one of the latest cases there. this is mr. aristov, who was vacationing in the maldives at the height of it. e in the fighting,

while people are rowing there to the front, while people do not understand how to make ends meet. this is a very close person, to zelensky, a person whom they tried, uh, to bring down all these years, because he has a very head of the budget committee in his position, and yet now he has been merged. leaked. very fast. well, this is what surprises. diana a lot. yes, yes, we are watching. naturally we can't ignore the news from ukraine, and now you get the feeling that in parallel with the war it was revived. this is an internal policy that was not much different from what it was before february 2022. and here are the same corruption scandals that you mentioned zelensky’s fight with the weeds and even the names. the same ones are present and it is surprising that the war did not affect the composition and logic of the actions of those who consider themselves to be among the current elite in ukraine in any way. it influenced in the sense that zelensky became much more knowledgeable. that is, if earlier he was ready to fight for his

people, if before, he somehow tried again, at least everything that concerns zelensky’s entourage. there were people who could be called untouchable. mr. tishchenko is a comical character, and who was involved in corruption scandals and parties many times at the height of the view, uh, they thundered throughout the whole of ukraine, nevertheless, he is ermak’s godfather, the most influential person in ukraine who, by and large, leads ukraine together with the west, because zelensky is completely in this sense driven human. so even tishchenko is now draining, that is, they are draining everything. look at what 's happening with the uh, vank situation with the warrior and the smell said everyone will fight , everyone will die, and now the screws are being tightened. yes, the last one will be here. uh, reviewing all the, uh, certificates that have been issued. they fit these to serve them all reconsider the same. the dismissal of military commissars, and therefore zelensky’s screws are being tightened more and more, by and large, you know, i now, if we speak, if we draw

an analogy, if we compare at all, i now actively immersed there in the history of ukraine in retrospect of ukraine’s dependence on the west , this situation was constant even for kuchma , who somehow tried to maneuver between russia and the west. in fact, he came to the conclusion that he was forced to do what the person who was there told him, and after the bushehr contract was not signed, when ukraine could join the construction of a nuclear power plant in iran and, uh, produce an exhibition of bodies similar products earn hundreds of millions of dollars. kuchma wrote after this. why are we so easy they only want raw materials from us. they don’t want to manipulate us, they promised mountains of gold, did nothing, then after the chain mail scandal and scandal after heap of scandals. he had to. eh, let's say. to change the rhetoric very, very much, and what can we say after the signing of the minsk agreements for some period, we

participated in the negotiating group. again , his rhetoric was completely consistent with what they say in the west, in principle, all these people who are now working with uh western organizations, organizations, quarrel and others organizations. for all these people. there is compromising evidence regarding zelensky, you know perfectly well what kind of person he can be , please stay with us, yes, vladimir maksimovich i would agree with all the theses that i put in, except for one thing, that zelensky is not in turn. couldn't have gone off the rails on his own. and do not try to make the world of ukraine more centric. we are ukrainian-centric, thereby getting bored with the west. i'm talking about the fact that we often hear voices saying that he, in principle, is already becoming very uncontrollable. greedy. and this greed is also expressed in his demands to finance the elections for 5 billion dollars. what 350 million can be held in any election, and here is 5 billion, where is the rest of the money? of course, he sends out amphorae into his pockets. this suggests that, by

and large, i personally know vladimir zelensky; he was a kvn frontman at one time. yes, there and yes, i sort of knew him there , we even drank, but i, uh, i’ll say, the frontman of any team of any kvn team or the frontman of the ninety-fifth quarter by and large, you can go off the rails. for the simple reason that at some point this artist may become pennywise , yes, that is, he may be insatiable, that is , at some point the west will now turn and look at what he is doing and he will understand that it is already heard, adequate voices are heard both in germany and in other countries of switzerland, then the question arises. how likely is it that in an effort to freeze the conflict and strengthen control within ukraine, the west will soon replace comedian zelensky or i absolutely don’t give a damn in ukraine . even if they clearly understand this, they are interested in their own interests, if in their interests , in order to solve the problem, they need to replace zelensky with poroshenko, i

speak figuratively. poroshenko is no showman for anyone else. yes, all those managed will completely do what is needed, if it were necessary, they would not do it, based on their own interests. why didn't they do that? how many times have the americans abandoned those they supported today all over the world, they pump them up with money, tomorrow they drain them and kill them themselves. is the west ready to say goodbye to zelensky’s candidacy and how to do this? well, there are a lot of procedures, and how can this be accomplished, but i think, oh yes, he has somewhere approached such a red line, where it will be harder and harder to carry him further, he allowed himself to do this before. well, the statements there about liverwurst about, uh, the president of germany with this kind of thing, ours swallowed . this is all because they were told not to, well, the child is being naughty. well, i slept a little badly,

today, do not pay attention. he 'll get over it soon. well, there is no fix. he is getting tougher and tougher in rhetori and demands. the ever-living russia will someday come to a point when, for sure , american analysts will come to the decision that in order to change the situation in order for us to move into another phase. we need another leader, this is done, the moor has done his job, he must leave, please, they have already been said. studio last name yes, this is poroshenko pritula but for some reason in ukraine only people from show business are vying for leadership positions. you very correctly said in one of the interviews, but, probably, ukrainians are ready to sacrifice bread for the sake of spectacles that they do not receive. i don’t think it can be taken seriously under tula. uh, ukrainians do vote, usually with emotions, but uh, ukrainians. in addition, the people are very contradictory. on the one

hand. i would like to see it from the other side. here's uh hmm craving for a strong hand request for a strong hand. he has always been, therefore, long before the events of crimea and donbass, putin was one of the most popular foreign politicians in ukraine, and before that, on february 24, lukashenko was the most popular and foreign politician in ukraine, therefore a request for a strong hand. he is and will now be one of those figures that can be seriously discussed. this is, first of all, laid down in the second very budanov is definitely not a lintel. they are poroshenko, not klitschko , anyone else, these are, in particular, those people who are seriously discussing candidates, the west will tell you how this can happen, everything is very simple. eh, when zelensky is no longer needed, but he definitely will be. one day it won’t be needed, but it will appear in the press. moreover, western is not in ukrainian then, of course, there is a lot of interesting information in minskoye, as i say there is enough compromising information on zelensky. here are his personal qualities and dependence on his apartment in london, offshore shields of corruption, which

, against the backdrop of the war, simply, well, cannot help but amaze. and then the level of his support in ukraine will begin to decline when the west begins to bring him down with all sorts of asian eh- e funds of the organization, the media of which are abundant in ukraine, which feel absolutely good. and i want to note that only those media that today supervise the smell can somehow today kick the authorities. they don't touch. if there is some kind of untouchable caste, then these are these youngsters, then, of course, his change from uh to another figure as who this figure will lead ukraine, i don’t know, remember. eh, vladimir volfovich said that zelensky is the last president of ukraine, i do not rule out that this is so? uh, i don't think that will happen in the very foreseeable future, because for now. uh, the west, uh, the west needs zelensky for him. a lot can be attributed to him, and a lot is still being written. i don't think that in the foreseeable future we can talk about some kind of peace negotiations

now. apparently, none of the parties to the conflict. these negotiations are not necessary, and ukraine is a country of conflicts. and i don’t think so at all, because ukraine is not independent. here in making decisions to great great regret. today this is a country that lives absolutely on debt and a country that is absolutely controlled by hmm ah and absolutely controlled. eh , from abroad, so this is the story, but budanova will continue to have a lot of media to promote what was laid not so long ago i met on the polish border with the leaders of nato generals, so the process is nothing new, let’s say, while ukrainians are dying and suffering. let's see how forced mobilization occurs in ukraine

yes, diana, and, of course, i can’t help but ask the resonant interview with alexander lukashenko because i’m convinced that many people in ukraine watched it. especially those who sit in pro-government offices, let’s call it that, but have they heard anything changed in their heads? thank you hope for a wonderful question. looked very very many views both on my site and on the belarus 24 site on youtube . belarus 24 has just a colossal number, it seems that you already have more than 10 million. and this, despite the fact that youtube was very pessimistic about this video. as you understand, liberal content is promoted in the first place, and such content is pessimized by everything, uh, the ukrainian media quoted, but the most important thing is what i ’m proud of, and it seems to me that i’m definitely not ashamed of the statement of the main intelligence directorate of ukraine, uh, the main intelligence board. e that this interview

is a conversation between lukashenka and the west from ukrainians. everything is correct. well done, because first of all, alexander grigoryevich, of course. in this interview i wanted to talk to the ukrainians and the ukrainians heard him and believe me, despite the fact that the media there is trying to twist it somehow. there s- offend and so on. i know for sure, i know very well and you, nadezhda , know the relationship. and ukrainians to lukashenko yes , after february 24, a lot has changed, but for many people it is still about the most authoritative, politician, a person who was able to hold on to his country. this person, who was able to save his country. i 'll say this in the end. maybe i was in a few words after before we arrived in minsk for an interview. lukashenko, i was in this wonderful city, your wonderful city, 2 years ago at the big conversation, and then we stayed in the minsk hotel. and i’ll remind you very well of the bartenders, and uh, there’s a bartender there on the first floor, which means he has such a colorful appearance, he should go there went in for coffee. hmm such nostragic

such a mood. i say, you didn't work here two years ago by any chance. he says yes i've been here for 20 years, i've been working. what i mean but belarus is pro-stability, i understand that it is for the youth. perhaps today this word, well, not the most attractive, much more attractive, some yes, uh words sound high emotions, something else for today, belarus against the backdrop of events. when i arrived in minsk, drones were flying across moscow , missiles were flying across kiev, and... uh, in minsk, uh, there are a lot of young people, there’s order on the streets, clean streets , beautiful roads and parks, mmm, and most importantly, a feeling of peace and stability. here it just needs to be saved and i know for sure that this interview became the message for ukrainians, which to a very large extent will allow them to think for the first time that the war could have been avoided. he told lukashenko in an interview, second, that there was no plan for china in 3 days and no one reflected it. lukashenka

described this attack in great detail. what can happen to ukraine if it doesn't show up now. here is the same request for negotiations in general. it's about what's in store for all of us. you know that alexander grigoryevich will hear, and this is very good. thanks a lot. diana diana panchenko, a ukrainian journalist, was in touch with us. we are approaching the final of our program. and of course. it’s surprising that, of course, we started the program with a conversation about ukraine and the situation on the battlefield. now we are talking about belarus and these comparisons cannot be ignored; thoughts have been repeatedly voiced that belarus is what ukraine could become if we analyze the path of states today in terms of quality of life, comfort, and a sense of security. i think the answers are obvious to many. i said that in the ninety-first year, when the ussr collapsed we had much fewer opportunities than ukraine. ukraine had

more starting opportunities than belarus and we envy them in a good way. unfortunately, they lost everything , and over the course of all these 30 years they didn’t even want to turn us into ukraine ; it would have been worse; we have enormous geopolitical significance for the west and they really wanted to turn us into iraq, into libya, into syria, into anything, just to it was anti-russia and a country without sovereignty and when i hear a ukrainian journalist. you know it hurts me heart, i would really like ukrainians to live like this, and i also think that everyone should hear us and understand that we don’t need war. don’t expect aggression from belarus. we so appreciate this calm, peace, silence for children, children, our school started on september 1. peaceful sky, and poor ukrainian children walk and fly. there, shells are dying in donbass , dying in other places, it’s scary to look at, we value peace, and we will do everything to make sure it’s

always like this here, hear us the whole world, belarus only wants peace, hear our president hear the belarusian people. yes, vladimir vladimirovich, belarus is a frontier. e of our union state. this is a fort at the crossroads. this is polissya software. this should be the place here! and he is one of the most reliable allies, if not the most reliable ally of russia is belarus and lukashenko he personifies reliability in himself, when i listened to the interview and not only this , i analyzed those interviews that were compiled earlier, he spoke about peace and the fact that unity with whom, it would be possible under certain circumstances to negotiate in ukraine, the military could certainly become. he did not mean budanov because he was a murderer, a man who compromised himself by the fact that he participated in the preparation of terrorist acts, sabotage raids and political assassinations, but other figures. perhaps not so

noticeable and not so media among the generals. perhaps, according to information from alexander grigoryevich lukashenko, there are figures with whom, under certain circumstances. if there is the will of the russian leadership, it would be possible to carry it out. some negotiations, but these negotiations are still a matter of the future, because russia is winning in all operational strategic areas. we have the task of implementing the plan of the general staff and creating a sanitary zone so that there would be no attacks by either drones, not unmanned without crew boats and everything else, including the harpoon anti-ship missile supplied by britain, as well as storm shadow with kelpas, which the french gave and so on , therefore , let's calmly look at the situation and do what we have to do, because we'll see what happens next. you know

i have always been amazed by the short memory of the ukrainian, because today everyone focuses exclusively on the positions where the aggressor is, where the victim is. forgetting about what preceded the war, and it is treating the minsk agreements, everyone today also forgot the opportunity, there was a lot of lack of desire, but rather permission to go to these negotiations waldmarker, please have the final word on today's program. politics is the art of compromise. i agree with this, but uh, the president of belarus, he is capable of compromises, but these compromises do not cancel honor conscience is a word that has become fashionable in the west. i gave my word. i took it. i said, i forgot and this is considered the art of diplomacy and is considered the ability to compromise - this is a lie. this is immorality. this is the cohort

of politicians who should fade into oblivion. and listening to lukashenko, i know that every word he says, he stands for it, and even when it’s not very convenient for him, he still stands behind this great respect for his position because of his position, precisely the geopolitical position that he occupies yes belarus has become. an anchor, an anchor of stabilization and uh, god grant that it continues. i am sure that around such leaders he is not alone in the political arena, but around such leaders a cohort of new politicians will gather who will clearly understand what conscience, honor and responsibility to their own people are. they are responsible for their word and know how to look for compromises. eh, and come to positive results from their activities. i

believe in it. i'm working on this and we will see a new europe and as soon as it's over. this is the redistribution of today, and it want soon. and we believe in this, grateful to all participants in today’s discussion, and i think the outcome of the discussion may be the understanding that the general direction of the dynamics of conflicts in general is obvious to all thinking people and it is difficult to talk about the timing and final results of this bloody war. but the hope of kiev and its western curators for a military victory over russia has vanished like smoke. it is clear to everyone who is inclined to think and analyze, and not blindly believe in the propaganda issue. now it's just a question of how much more life there is take this war. here it is appropriate to recall the words of the great military theorist karl clausowitz: surrender is not a shame. a good general will not lure the last surviving soldier into the idea of

​​fighting, just as a good chess player will not continue a game that he knows he has lost. thank you this was the sass program authorized to declare. ukraine and the west have no chance of a military victory over russia