these are difficulties and as i remember, for example, the olympic games. it was very difficult. uh, you need to prepare for the mountains, hold training camps in the mountains, do intensive good training in order to feel comfortable later at the competitions. uh, we did 10 days before in armenia at 2.000, and then we went down here and we feel quite adequate. as you can see guys. they moved well along the way. e, not only me, but our whole team, so the audience will not forgive me. if i don’t ask to whom you dedicate the victory today, maybe to whom this bouquet will reach the same, the republic of belarus ah, of course, of course, and the spouses dinar, hello, uh, sonny, stroke from me. here. uh, of course, i dedicate everything, beautiful story. moreover, she was beautiful here that year, she won the third only a denarius, but we also pass it on to all our viewers. we remind you that you must watch the women’s sprint today, damn it, for belarus thank you andrey kozlov from sochi , residents of three districts of minsk are recommended

to temporarily use transported or bottled water reports sanitary and epidemiological service the day before in a centralized drinking water system water supply occurred an accident touched. she pervomaisky partizansky soviet district of the capital, the damage was localized right now , the specialists of the minsk vodokanal are washing the networks in the zone of influence of the station, when the work is completed, they will take samples to assess the safety of the water. more information at my colleagues at 15:00 on our air see you soon.

yahistory nature culture a talk show is essentially starting its third television season, but it is customary for us television people to bring something in this regard. new, as a rule, colleagues try to shock with their changes , changes and new projects, but we follow the path of evolution and continue to work for you, our program is dedicated to the upcoming holiday, the day of national unity, but we will talk not only about the historical aspect, we will also discuss those moments that are happening now what worries. in general, in fact, every belarusian, as always with you in the studio, kirill

kazakov and alena serova, here at the bottom of the screen you see a qr-code. point your smartphone at it and join our conversation. ask your questions. share your opinions, be sure to voice them, and here in the right corner. you can go to our telegram channel and learn about our program. and we are starting more about our guests. and in september, we have a new public holiday, national unity day. we have already spoken here twice about the fact that we must somehow lay down, including the mental ideological historical basis for this date, in order, well, in fact, to fill it with some kind of meaning, because for many of people. we will return to this here, uh, sociologists have calculated. how do people really relate to this holiday very differently, and uh

, despite the fact that it seems like we still have soviet times on the street on september 17 in the west of belarus, this is such a normal phenomenon in the east. indeed, this is a date, well, it is somehow perceived, maybe not so organically. i will now give my opinion. look here. it seems to me that when we put clean stories. again it is such that we have already liberated our lands many times we say one thing. it was the polish occupation about it. really. now they speak openly. although i understand that some time ago we hid it, because, well, it seems like god-given neighbors and why swear with them? yes, but now we clearly say that it was the polish occupation after the occupation - this is essentially the image of some kind of enemy, let the enemy be in the historical past in europe all the time. eh, well, as if the neighbors were arguing with each other, achieving something. as a matter of fact, we have the same story here. we have won this war. here in this small victorious war. we have united

our uh, two parts of the state. and for some reason we somehow forget this. we perceive people's unity as a kind of shark like this, it should be, it should just be. well, as if we just always had it. that's why just the history of the great patriotic war she came more understandable. the enemies we defended, we liberated, we won, and here it seems like we have liberated something and not completely. it's clear who's here, maybe we really draw a certain line and line it up. it was then that at that time it was our enemy. i understand perfectly well what to evaluate a historical person is better in the segment of historical time in which he was. yes, and here i am, returning to this, i want to say whether stalin is a hero for belarus or not, and when stalin is accused of being a dictator, no one says that the same pilsun dictator is the same

dictator is the lithuanian president, they are dictators for that time it was here is such a geopolitical game, i'm right or not, but of course, first of all, it should be noted that there was no state of war between the soviet union and poland. this also acknowledged the then polish government. it is enough to remember the order. marshal reid smilov, who spoke about the state of war advice. do not fight with the soviets, but when the polish troops come into contact, withdraw to agree on the withdrawal to neutral territory in romania or hungary, that is , there was no war as such. if you like, so here it was about the fact that the red army took under its protection, that means, uh, belarusians and ukrainians who lived on the territory of interwar poland according to the results of the riga peace treaty, which, of course, was unfair with respect to belarus and in particular with regard to ukraine, the same thing, but here what should be paid attention to. naturally, we have to look at what was going on in the world at that time. and if you look at what happened, then the treaty they attacked between the soviet union and

germany was not something extraordinary . won. and even that secret protocol to him on the division of the sphere of influence in europe. it was also not something know-how, some kind of soviet union non-aggression pact with nazi germany, the ussr concluded the last european country in fact. and the first, by the way, such an agreement was concluded in 1934 by poland and then in 1938. she took part in the division of czechoslovakia , she also had a secret agreement for separating germany . she received the teshin region, see kirill e. you said at the beginning of the program, yes, that they know a lot about the great patriotic war there, everything is clear, but in part, because they really talk a lot about it, including, um, not only there in classrooms and in classes, yes, but and from the screens, movie screens are a lot of films, filmed during the great patriotic war and other historical periods, and then many people really study history, looking at a work of art symbolism.

there are a lot of monuments in the city, streets of the square, a lot of movies have been shot, but here i am speaking again from the street on september 17 in every ban. the first such swallow should soon appear on the screen. yes, i'm talking now about the film on the other side of hmm, which is dedicated , in general, to those events, if i correctly understood the events this year, the events directly in the twenty-fifth year, how did the belarusians who remained in that territory, how did they live, how did the poles try to assimilate them? here's how, uh, let's say, uh, september 14th on movie theater screens. that's right, we invite everyone to definitely see it. that's how they treated our religion. here, well, this is the film. when we talked about it with the previous director of the belarus film, and he did not voice it under the working title we a, in

the end, the posters will be different. why was such a decision made so that there would not be such a direct reference to cause some more interest in the viewer, do not know we three of some kind to create. no, this is a working title and it always happens in films, so let's say it could have been called that. well, the decision was made on the other side. well, people turned out. seeds on the other side. a. look at this topic. well, again, we will not hide the fact that the belarus film was now called the partizan film in soviet times, because a lot of wars were filmed. here is this segment of time, as again, i will make a reservation about my own opinion about the polish occupation. he chosen now that's no coincidence this is a single option. or we will have films sent by this time. well, they may not necessarily be specifically about the confrontation, there are two enemies or two spies. about love. it’s just that the time itself is when really a lot of our territory took place both on the territory

of western belarus, for example, the uprising against the poles, and on the territory of eastern belarus , the creation of the belarusian state. that is , there were times when well, history was fleeting in this here in this period. yes a lot of events took place there, therefore, if you take it directly there, you know all your life, uh, soared with molly that he lives by his own matter and his own brother ended up on polish territory in the polish occupation. anton directly fights the poles, is a partisan, and so on. and so pavel occupied such neutral territory, but films happened, so the polish military beat the mother when they went out to defend their faith, the church and the mother, nevertheless died and the couple changes theirs as they say, well, nevertheless, we are talking about , what can to be, uh, to this historical period, belarusian cinema is more often, that is, it is not just

a single movie about this time. perhaps, indeed, more often we may have paid little. this is how we understand this period? i say they did not want to swear with the neighbors. yes, maybe, but the fact is the facts, so we must show it as it was, and our young people should see it. well you think so, will cinemas be in demand? i am sure that he will be in demand, because this is ours, this is our life, and i think the belarusians will come, look. this movie. do not forget that in soviet times, quite a lot of documentaries and films were also made artistically about the same pritytsky about his feat, which he accomplished, and the literary work of our classics. remember yanka shaving. maxim dan these things. they are now present and they need to be studied, propagandized and told, because they were direct witnesses of what was happening in western belarus and the very process of reunification sergey look, uh, directly again, according to many historians, and i, again , have a positive attitude to this opinion to the creation of that

modern belarus in which , within the borders that it now exists, i put a hand to joseph ivanovich stalin, as it were, not to twist. it was stalin's decision that the troops would enter the territory of western belarus, reunite and, in fact, it doesn't matter how stalin's personality can be treated, but from the point of view of just the prism of creating a single and belarusian one. state he did a lot of positive things. i again did not become in vain to say that the same pilsudski was no less. uh, well, as it were, he was called a dictator in europe by that time, but why over the past 30 years, we have been trying to denigrate the image of stalin, while the poles have tried to exaggerate the image of pilsudski. although, in fact, one of the same segment of time and two people were. well , in fact, in the same roles. so what did stalin do? for us, everything here is quite simple and prosaic in this situation. really. you are right, stalin is the person who directly personally had a hand in

in order for the first belarusian state to appear on the political map of the world, not the poles, not the russian empire, nor other state entities that included our territories and their political leaders did not allow this to be done, and even, that means, kaiser's germany in the eighteenth year. we remember when he was approached by the figures of eitherener. and those, it didn't follow. although they allowed the ukrainians to create the ukrainian people's republic of belarus no, and only stalin , together with lenin, does not stand in parallel either forget it, stalin played a huge role in this matter as commissar for nationality affairs. he resolved these issues within the framework of everything, er, all the territories of the most powerful soviet state. so they determined that belarusians really deserve to have their own state and we got a prototype of the future sovereign state of the republic of belarus. but why is there so much dirt on it today? it’s not only here that belarus has been piling up all this time in russia and ukraine and in the same poland, the baltic states, because india staged a genocide. name the bar churchill in minsk everyone will be happy left name the bar stalin minsk who will be happy and

the first concentration camp, in a word, that's all. this is called the western history of graphics. need to understand. i'm in the hundred and first year, whatever one may say, we lost the soviet union collapsed. who won in this struggle of the cold war won, the united states of america who won, let's say he orders the music. so they ordered it and ordered it. they what task they had and still has. we are fighting this today, uh, it means to destroy everything that we unites with russia our entire common history, so to speak, and ukrainians and belarusians in the baltic states in poland, we managed to do this, so there the name of lenin and other leaders of the soviet state, who did a lot for these countries, became different. yes, in fact, it was done in lithuania during the time of stalin, bialystok went to thanks to the old poland, liberated subordinates , command, liberated polish lands. 600,000 thai soldiers voted that there was no more auschwitz. the maidan is like the other zeus of fascism. it is too made by the communists.

this was done under the leadership of the steel, but the americans, their task, their concept, the task is to destroy everything that unites us and everything that glorifies a strong powerful power such as the soviet union and the russian empire, and therefore, i just want to finish what was clear today, when we mean, uh, take our national history policy and make it more aggressive. that's the right way to do it. we are essentially a confrontation. here is this amen not lithuanian and not french american concept destruction of us mental-historical spiritual culturally, look what is being done in ukraine today. it is clear they have. and they have pushkin the enemy for four dostoevsky and all the rest, everything that connects them with the russian must be destroyed, then they will be able to tear these lands away from russia in such a way to weaken russia along it, the ultimate political goal is the weakening of russia that is, they do not care. what is our flag , what is our historical leader, what holidays do we have, do they not care about human life in general? understandable we know this from their position on their actions. in the world, let’s say, politics and how they operate today, therefore, it’s all the same, and

in order to separate the example, the goal is to weaken russia, they go to everything and for military purposes and historically destroy us and political cultural spiritual practice, let's see, let's look at sociology, these american tentacles that climb into every night of the historical police. we were illustrated with the relations of belarusians. to the holiday we are talking about, and now you are the guest of our program on e, on this topic here annual, maybe offhand remember the relationship. here is the understanding. we speak, we remember these historical periods. we chew. well, now, has awareness and love come? here, look, look, i'm just a second. here alena and i talked about these two figures before the broadcast. what does a 67 e percent mean. well, a little more than 60% determined participation in the events on the occasion of the national unity day, precisely because this is their own decision and 48 on behalf of the organization. i say, well, you know,

probably, our people just work in those places where the views coincide with their desire to work. it's a normal story too. well, at the beginning i would like to make a small reference to the plot that was at the beginning about the cinema of feature documentaries and say that this is a powerful means of enlightenment, this is a powerful means of informing, this is a powerful tool that is in demand among young people today, not only visual images and, uh, slightly continuing this topic, which was discussed to open an ever new page in our history, it will certainly contribute to the fact that influx, new personnel, and directors and screenwriters and writers. and poets and artists, they will master these new lacons hitherto, not yet explored, and as for our main plot of the celebration of the day of national unity and themes. e reunification of peoples. this is a rather new space in which we all have to work, as regards

the research data that our institutes are conducting. well, definitely the answer to this question. they are indicative, because here we are talking about the fact that, along with traditional methods involvement of people in certain events is also their own desire, which crystallizes more and more. and if you can look at the next slides. i would like to make a few more comments. eh, here. please pay attention. we are talking about the fact that , of course, one of the most important means of entertainment, uh, leisure, but including education is cinema, but uh, here you made a passage at the beginning that we are all united by one goal. find the most appropriate ways to solve those problems that relevant for the country for society for each of us so. hey, please see the answer is no. if you can go back a little. so here is the answer to the question. yes. in what events patriotic orientation the respondent takes part

is the result of a study that we conducted recently, which is significant, yes, mass cultural forms of organizing certain events are unconventional. they are positive fresh air paraphernalia and other other stuff in an otherwise massive event is chic, but we are looking for new reserves new resources. here, please look at the outreach events they are poison below, which means in such events, in particular, about our program. this is the clearest confirmation that you can communicate, you can communicate , you can find, and you need to find some ways to solve those problems that contribute to the unification of society. here is a reserve for our further work. pay attention to the following creative intellectual contests. they scored much less, as if our preferences respondents than those positions at the top of this pyramid. this is also a direction for the work of commutators and there are many different groundwork for work. and these are

exactly the directions in which it should work and is working. uh, scientists at the academy of sciences are working on the education system of the media, talking about the demand or popularity of the holiday. we certainly must understand that our thinking, due to the conservatism of gradualness and so on , cannot react so quickly to those innovations that we adopt at the legislative level. here, a lot of serious, painstaking work is needed, and in this regard, the results of the research conducted by our institute and the topics that are raised in particular on such programs as they are here show the new directions of our scientific research information and education. tell me, are there a lot of scientific research, and your academy has begun. that's it for this topic. is there really a request? that is, or it's all the same, as leontievich says, we are very conservative. well, if we

are talking to you about the national academy of sciences. belarus is like a research, yes, institution, that is, of course i want to say that a very large layer of documentary sources raised over the past 10 years, in fact , you can remember it, and belarus poland means a publication that is documentary, where relevant comments are given on these real documents and which brightness indicates what was happening in western belarus and how this backfired on the soviet soviet union means our our soviet belarus during the great patriotic war, if we are talking about the army of the region and the post-war period, when these underground damned soldiers acted on our territory, we can recall the two-volume book the peace of riga in the fate of the belarusian people is a unique thing, in general, there is a monographic study and each section also contains a selection of documents of materials, but this does not mean that everything is completely on the history of western belarus according to the theft of the reunification has been investigated . a lot of work has been done at the institute of history of the national academy of sciences of belarus together with university colleagues, but this work will continue and further.

you see, we are still talking about the fact that the holiday should be, well, popular for people who are professionally engaged in the history of politics, who, in general, spend time doing these scientific research and works. and for them, as it were, the fact of september 17 and the importance of this holiday do not need to be explained, that is, they seem to understand it perfectly and perceive fun. far scientific base will not explain this holiday. i think it's worth another task. how to convey this fundamental base to the general public through films or through the eye. people, for example, here is yuri gennadievich, uh, you, probably people, like no one remembers that in fact, uh, there were those historical periods, about which we are talking, which , uh, someone can study from the monographs of someone the modern films. you got it from mouth to mouth mouth, transmitted. what's the deal with this holiday? i will now complete her question.

he is very correct, but i will now say a little differently. in 1920 in poland they said that pinsk is poland. is it true, people in pinsk think that? i am sure that most people do not think so , as most people did not think in 1939, because the events of september 17 in western belarus in pinsk, in particular, we see this both from documentary sources and from people's memories. and as you rightly noted in the folk memory this idea lives on and until now people have met, mostly in their majority. people met the red army with flowers ; moreover, there were facts that indicate that they were specifically waiting for the arrival of soviet power. we were waiting for the red army soldiers , so here we have a stove. yes, we are preparing for the opening of the seventeenth of september exactly on this date in order to

saturate the program that has already been shown. i understood, so we are trying to designate this day of national unity with specific historical markers. here's what it's about. uh, this means that on september 17 a memorial plate to the outstanding figure of our fellow countryman will be opened. the most important thing, perhaps, in this situation. e, means, e fighter for the restoration of, e, means our state of belarus within the framework of a single state. this is mark gerasimovich. squeak means september 20 at the approach to the squeak. uh, parts of the red army , the polish military mined the railway bridge, an important strategic and detachment of patriots led by mark piskun. these are peasants. mostly they were. they took over the locals. uh, police station on the side, how's it they called it for those times, and having disarmed these policemen and military men, they occupied this bridge and

held yuri maryanych until the approach of the red army. it seems to me that this is the plot for a new film. we are talking about the lack of scripts. but, please, uh, historical figures with whom people need to be introduced, we talked a lot about the fact that our heroes are, well, for the most part, bookish , that is, they read the first name, surname, patronymic from history textbooks, there is a dry short squeeze. and when is it m-m visualized right beautiful, then the effect of the other can think about it. i think we will take it into service, because a movie can be seen by the whole world in an hour if we show it, so now there are cinemas in the global network. we have chic cinemas in belarus, all the more so, i think that it is precisely such plots of such events that should be taken as a basis and shown, but there is a resource in order to film with us just when you made the program, the movie told us that something there is no script, then there is nothing else. but

simply, it turns out that the theme of these thirties, she lives really, really deep. uh, historians can say that there are a lot of plots there, there is a sea, yes, and plus there is more to everything. well, let's say either eyewitnesses or grandchildren of eyewitnesses who could tell this, really a movie, please. well, here is the topic. this is a personal family history. this is the most effective mechanism for protecting our historical truth today, the most effective, i will still be back. here's to the theme of the movie literally, using so to speak by accident. and me it seems that i closed it. at that moment there was a partizan film, that is, there was a trend, and then there was a period when i lost a little. that's how it is for the russian, somehow here's his own. well, they didn’t get the image, perhaps , now, relying on the newly discovered, and the facts and historical make it our feature and

we are working on it, therefore belarus film is a national film studio. naturally, it carries the culture of our ideologists, and we will use it through our belarusian studio. such stories must be taken on armament. at the moment. we have several such proposals. right now , young young screenwriters have come up to us, young directors have come up to us. i'm sure that we'll have a busy this year and next year the studio is well staffed, good pavilions , good young team gather. i think for a few months. and we, as they say, will give feedback to dima on the effect of this on such proposals. we are one hundred percent. we are already considering already accumulating them, and i discussed with my colleague today, as they say

on the sidelines and sergey and discussed and take such questions, as they say on well , we just say that e culture is, in principle, the most important, well, the word is a tool here, maybe not quite right, but as it is, this is the most important tool sphere and a way to influence the opinion of the masses, and in general, dividing e belarusians. uh, at one time, including culturally, dividing by values, it turned out to create that split and now divide us along different shores. yes, there were different military political events, but in the end. a. well, people themselves they were not monolithic in themselves, probably, at that moment yuri, uh, we already had a moment in the history of a sovereign independent country, when we were on the verge. do you think that three years have passed, the memory is a little bit, so those events are already overwritten, not so bright, it seems that a new event is ahead. can't

something like this happen again. there is an external threat there , for example, yes, but can’t hmm , in principle, the threat that we will split up again and become paramount for us, of course, is a thunderstorm cannot be ruled out, but at the moment it is minimized, because all our information resources hmm are aimed at uniting all our rhetoric, including foreign policy, if they paid attention, even the last invitation of our neighbors to military exercises, which was expressed by the president of belarus and them openly friendly. it is aimed at, uh, finding some kind of compromise and calling for an end to this artificial tension. uh, in addition, a historical fairway is set, because indeed kirill is right that in the soviet it was time for soviet poland to torment her somehow inconveniently. uh, in independent times, they also

decided not to disturb them, so there was no such fairway, but in fact, the date of september 17 should be. uh, cult same as uh independence day victory day is possible, uh, the proclamation of the bssr and even need to be dazzled in the nineteenth year. yes, that is, we have already set the historical format, which was not previously set for these dates, and the word unity. that's how often. as it sounds now , it will never. eh, creation did not sound before they are nearby, unlike you, they don’t let me in poland, just the same polish. uh, polish, the government has made a list of banned. schengen small amendment i'm a threat to national security for all countries, but you were in poland was a question. look what, and

there are many of us, too, especially even our extremists. uh, being criticized for what we are, uh, trying to pull out september 17th. we, uh, are just setting up or, as they say, uh, we are spinning the hostility between the polish belarusian people to the fullest. yes meanwhile, yes man, a person who has been in poland will surely know that there is no place left for the crosses, these lands are lost, and not a single pole believes that these lands are gone forever. uh, they surf the internet. uh , for example, the maps that are depicted on polish trains, where brest grodno is drawn , where the polish special forces go and sing that it will pass from vilna to lvov, yes, by roads. so maybe we didn't start it. you know, as they say, this game can be played with two people, when, like they say, let's go , rats, we can say, listen, you guys have occupied us, after all, this is a game for two. and we don't play. we just after the twentieth year, which was a kind of

ice shower, we became ourselves. yeah, we have identified important historical milestones that no one even the most hardened belarusian nationalist will deny, and we are popularizing them regardless of their rhetoric. that is, we have become ourselves, we are promoting our historical science of our knowledge, we will not rejoice at this and, uh , we will build in absolutely yes, we are now on the borders. that is, here you have found yourself. and how can you not rejoice at this for me , no, like our opponents, who turned out to be in the mix, and now, yes, uh , something has something against the seventeenth of september my friends. you are all patriots of the country. there are called they think. they think that we are all inventing something to annoy someone. no, we are doing it so that it would be good for us, our people, our state, how do you

raise another question correctly, how to popularize and these empirical sociological data they show that, well, except for nis, where is to grow that this culture is in the first place through the culture of the show, and here is this film wonderful which will be released on september 14th . we'll see. e, filmed e, belarusfilm. we should also be able to sell it, it should be bright and good, but wait for me before the broadcast, i ’ll post a question before advertising, because yuri maryana is starting. i want to ask a question. look, again we are talking about non-popular unity. i’ll ask a question, taking the opportunity of august 2020, our enemies, extremists , are filming their own movie about this time, where they interpret what is happening, as they see it, it is they and we understand that they have more money. how can we make a movie that tells how it really was. you know, we

were all 20 e years old, so i arrived. i remember on august 16, we came here to minsk from grodno on buses to support and support the head of state, er, our capital. we took part in this historic rally, so you know this for us, maybe, i will put it this way, it was not just something to watch on the internet. we saw it all live. we heard the words of our president filmed. now, here in this hall, the people who were there, you understand, and we missed it through ourselves and at the moment. we're just working on it, we have a row. as the proposal says. here we discussed today with yuri sergey discussed. i want to repeat myself. we have our own ideas for his hour, but in such a convoy the film is being worked out , our film, and events. august of the twentieth

year, we must wait for it, because the people are asking for it, we have all seen it and we must leave it. we want to at least understand that we are not in vain it's not you. we didn't do it in vain. we did not stand in vain, and therefore the film will be here the film will be. i take this opportunity, of course , and i am ready to create a working group of young people and other older people. so, i would like to invite specialists to this working group. i think everyone is watching today, and we are open to this and cooperation, you know. i'm sure he will succeed. we will start shooting it . we will start filming very soon, now we are working on the canvas, then the scripts. we will start next year. he will be at work. this is essentially today we are talking about the day of national unity and

everything related to this date, historical facts and, in fact, mental problems and non-problems that are connected with us. i’m looking at that chat that we actually have a lot of congratulations from poland and the czech republic, which congratulate us on national unity day. and actually, this is so surprising enough, but on the other hand. you perfectly understand that, well, yes, these are the holidays that you need. as a matter of fact, to share by people who understand what happened absolutely just as it happened yuri gennadievich let's turn around to pinsk again. and you are the only one who now represents the western, belarus, huh? about 15 years ago i made a film between e-e east west belarus was in sapotkin mstislavl. and as a matter of fact, 15 years ago i didn’t find the difference, and, of course , as a journalist, i succumbed to the trends that exist in western eastern ukraine in ukraine, and there this rift is really visible and now it was visible electoral. he is now visible

on the war, as far as we have it is prominent. story. again, we have been communicating with brest a thousand times, grodno, we do not understand that people are on the other side. there from the other side of our country. they are all belarusians. we probably don’t have such a difference, but still confirm or refute my opinion. i think that you are absolutely right and there are no such significant differences to say that these are completely different parts of the world or parts of one state. yes. it's more of a historical one. i would call her wound with in the context of what we call polish occupation, which was reflected in a certain way, but not in such a way as to say that there is a serious difference. look at the thirty-ninth year. with the advent of soviet power, an industry was formed in our country. maybe it is a little younger than the eastern squirrels, but it appeared the same way, the social sphere, the infrastructure, let’s say , the administrative territorial structure

, everything that we use today, we live without thinking, but it appeared it was then that it was laid down. eh, now we have to talk about various anniversaries of organizations. yes, here at us, for example, they celebrate there 75-80 years and you start to look at the year of formation of this or that factory there for this meat processing plant thirty-ninth fortieth. well, then after the war. this is what it says that this is how the base of development came, then it came to the ukrainian westerners, as it did not take root in our country. yes, of course, because in soviet times we even carried out a reasonable policy aimed at the same attitude towards the western and eastern regions in fact. here is what i brought, dear colleague, examples, after all, in fact, a lot of money was also spent on the development of western belarus, which was lagging behind this agrarian-salary. it means that it was part of interwar poland in order to raise the standard of living of the population , and this was done, despite all the difficulties in the modern republic of belarus, again thanks to the principled position of our president. we also don’t have such a section; there are some western and eastern regions, but

take the same ukraine and look, there is actually all of eastern ukraine the people who inhabited are treated as second class second class citizens. here is western ukraine - yes. it's all about the east. this is something that the ukrainian authorities themselves have laid down and are broadcasting further. and in turn, ukraine often took offense at the west. they say we pash, we mine with our own pens. and you, uh, nikit well, here's a question for the younger generation of belarus , do you think there really is this division into west and east, in our country or not? it seems to me that he doesn't exist. this is just a fantasy - some kind of fictional and imposed point those who want to hang some kind of cliche in our society and want every pole, for example, after all , she also touched, first of all, western belarus, because the poles really clearly understand that it is necessary to open the grave of some anything. uh, the deceased from the regional army

needs. here is some kind of polish house to put. there is something else here, and this, after all, primarily concerned western belarus. here's how to deal with this barometer here, you see, we are talking about preserving historical memory, we understand that this memory will be these processes will be aimed at young people in order for the slip to understand, relay the correct theses, lay down our song here, the organization of the unification of the party and representatives of civil society work through the prism of civil patriotic education in order for the youth to go to the historian , some cultural socio-political processes, and now it’s just here, look, i'm in the driver's class. i come. yes, i have here, for example, polish music. i can honestly say that in grodno a lot of people listen to polish rock, because it is listened to in the fm station in pinsk, there is also no polish fm. well, anyway, well, never mind, well, anyway, they listen. they see. they drive ours, this is the story. we went to buy bialystok. she hasn't passed yet.

it is, i understand that here we have all the brands that we used to buy there. well, this is the petty-bourgeois mentality. he is needed. turn around like this, you understand with loud phrases, we got together and did not help. well, you know, if we talk about music about polish horn yes, and what young people listen to, and about the films that we shoot, we must understand. that films - this is a good factor, but there are other negative factors in the country that affect films - this does not overlap, in particular. let's pay attention. uh, something that worries me and worries a fairly significant part of our society. this is why in the twentieth year, some people wanted to sell their native country, and today in 2023 , performing a song is not for sale. father's hut. is it normal what is this double standards are quite a large number, uh part of our society. let's go further, this list can be expanded by the coco-by kabbek mode. and these strongmen dim dimych is it okay to popularize well, but i will answer homosexuality, but let's remember last year on september 17th. that's exactly the whole

roman arena i didn't drink this song. i didn't sing along, i was sitting people, well, we can understand the question, you understand the social policy that the president is pursuing us, she is present, we are surprised. why don't you go want to start a family? wait wait, i agree on me. i agree with your opinion that it has a place to be, but on the other hand, you understand, when we now begin to impose certain labels on all these people that you have named, it helps to unite. you know, there is a concept of forgiveness to some extent, maybe these people are not suitable for this, as you say forgiveness, but on the other hand. everyone has a second step next to you stands yuri voskresensk stands with you if only such labels were hung on him yuri voskresenske would not be standing here he had this chance. i

agree with you, many of my other citizens. patriot, you have the right to this opinion, but if people didn’t get a second chance, here’s a vivid example, and people didn’t take advantage of the shadow and honestly support him in repentance in the part that what could be the forgiveness of lgbt people when he sold earlier? but now he is doing what he says, excuse me a little. i'm talking about it, so tomorrow. i will continue. of course it's wrong that's why. and if about today's topic, then what we today historically mean, what was put before us, so what to do in such a situation. i will say we need the youngest nails, at least from kindergarten , to educate our children in the spirit of our national cultural traditions, our national spirituality, and then this young generation, when it grows further, it will be work, but it must be done. yes, 39 artyom ivanovich, here are all the youngest nails. you have first-graders there on the eleventh

class. yes, national unity day. here there 2 years ago the third year. we will celebrate it. hmm, it was a completely new holiday for everyone. i mean, well, a new form. i don’t know if you were working at that time or not yet, but definitely in every educational institution, especially where there is one. on actions with young guys, young children were looking for their own form, which would be able to explain those complex events in an accessible language. how did you decide to adapt this holiday , it is clear that there are some common postulates at the state level, but however, something like that is possible. here's a cool idea. well, i will say in turn that in schools and educational institutions of the city of minsk and in general in the territory of belarus, uh, on the day of national unity, they celebrate uh, in fact, in the same way. and everyone has lessons and memories during this week, and the class is within the framework of class hours.

this is a solemn line by raising. uh, flying the flag and singing the anthem. now our children almost all know the anthem. uh, this has contributed to the fact that u now our generations uh, aspires to become patriot. of our country, and in turn, we also invite cultural figures to the dialogue platforms, and first-graders sit down at some deputies in beautifully padded halls, and adults tell them, of course, of course, this will all be very difficult. naturally. museum rooms and museum expositions are now opening in schools. artyom i 2 years ago to my son, a seventh grader. today , a ninth-grader, he devoted 2 days to explain what is the meaning of the day of national unity. i told, i explained. how are you

think, how long does it take to actually say, why did i start with this question, that at some point we don’t have this concept of an enemy, it seems to me, because the liberation campaign of the army. he goes against someone. so we freed it from someone. for a very long time we did not consider the poles as enemies. and now it seems like we don’t consider it either, or we do. here’s how to unite, from whom we freed. i am a history student, but i spent 2 days explaining why this happened in 1939 and why brest became the territory of belarus and we should be proud of it, here's how you did it? well , of course, all this needs to be developed in history lessons. it's not certain now. you can say that we are not something that children understand well, look at the great patriotic war, everything is clear. we won, and in fact, our victory in the ninety-first year , nothing is clear, the country fell apart. and who

won us is also completely unclear. and here , like cyril, do you want the children to start literally in a year? uh, understand yuri because adult understood first, as adults. secondly, we are talking about forms, that is, it cannot be allowed to form into a vacuum. if we do not occupy, now some niches will be explained for us by others. she's just colleagues. so it has already happened, for decades we did not touch upon the issues of the history of the betrayal of the belarusian people. we had it just like any other nation. we did not touch it , we thought that it is enough that we tell, we show, we implement historical policies on what heroically, and so on. we now have an example of a president, the person whom all of ours for that building you agree, and then it builds. now we have looked at our mistakes that we made before the twentieth year before the twentieth

year. here is one of the mistakes. we didn't say we didn't pay enough attention. again. repeat to me to finish the stories of betrayal about the bchbesh flag. ask about this rag 98% nick. here you know in what year he appeared, who he started. in which one is 1917? who painted the soul of the soul? in what city, petersburg, petrograd is good, and when he appeared, my colleagues on the street people just didn’t knew they were told to hold. this is the flag of the freedom of independence there. they were not in the know, there was a certain historical illiteracy. now we are correcting this topic now in history textbooks. uh, so for the first year for all our students of all the body of the country there are several pages, there is one page exactly devoted to the history of the betrayal of our people. the next time someone takes out this rag and starts waving it, so that the hand doesn’t reach close to it and place the innovation and so on, but for this this time must pass, because the textbook appeared only this year, and before that

, students studied for 20 years, and we didn’t talk about it, we didn’t talk about the flag. and very quickly all thinking people learned this lesson, who did not even know in the twentieth year. here through these is not very fast. i meet dozens every week. well, not not every week straight with a ten. well, in a month, dozens of labor flew and everywhere in what interesting questions they don’t know, they need to tell them about it. and now, just the same, your question, i answer yours questions. right. i support yuri , we need time to educate today, if we have missed these issues in our society, as for at such a moment, when time is so fast, nothing is forever for people. unfortunately, there is no need to be realistic. they are dreamers and then everything will be fine. taking into account the fact that in 2020 the reboot took place correctly and taking into account the fact that little time is needed for e, in the field of ideological work, do not make

such mistakes, about which e nikita e said, that is one thing. yes, we also have some authors of the history of textbooks of the belarusian statehood, who have black and white on their foreheads. uh, they shouted for the glory of poznyak at rallies and there are even such videos by some political scientists, but then they stood on the support of the state and showed themselves to be real fighters. it's all the same, uh, the people who got on the right side in 2020, when they did such a three-year marathon of fighters - that's one thing, but when nikita says it right, they sat out. and still and still propagate, not something that falls out of our ideological canvas, taking into account that. kirill said that we don't have much time, so we need to polish it right away at the initial stage and not allow it to do ideological work. i'm right. nikita listen and most importantly, in order not to go too far

, this is also such a story. we are today art is a war on the historical front is passing through our territory. today we are fighting for our country, including historical issues , perhaps, if there is no time, we are colleagues, but we deviate a little from the topic. we we are talking about a holiday that is new for us, a holiday that should unite us in common values. we are going to such a line, and let's punish, if we are talking about this holiday, then it’s understandable historical second, if you , uh, everyone is talking about alexander lukashenko yes , otherwise the president, in my opinion, has already clearly given several signals, it starts from there or an invitation. to the poles on the global geopolitical level, ending with the fact that we remember this commission for the return of people who made a mistake and are ready to return work for the good of the country. by the way, how are things in

the commission? on the seventh, there will be a regular meeting and another big package. eh, the fugitives are asked to return to their homeland, you know, again, i completely agree that every person can absolutely have their own opinion, but i want to say that even abroad people have the opportunity to repent, maybe from abroad. they make the choice to come back here and be punished not everyone is punished everyone is punished. you know , we should talk about the day of national unity, not only on september 17th. it's the same sacred, like independence day, like victory day. we must do everything in order to preserve all the principles, those values ​​that mine are constantly broadcasting, as because it is our ancestors who accomplished a feat. these are the same soviet people who gave us the opportunity to exist independently. in an unknown state, this is our very integral part of the history of the formation of the belarusian state. we must multiply it. we must understand that one film cannot get out, but large-scale work in all areas of technologists on instagram

where the youth sit today. in the beginning, you spoke about how you are doing this work, just like our entire civil society, we are trying to do it through the prism of civic-patriotic education in order to tell. what historical events took place in the country. what were the contradictions? what are the actual facts of the falsification of history, what are the white spots so that they themselves do not read this evil spirits in telegram channels, we will tell them how it happened. they had everything without gaps, and they already saw the picture, in full, that is. in all our meetings we talk about the year of peace and creation, including the preservation of historical memory, they listen attentively and ask provocative questions. we are only happy about this, because they do not know much, for example, the guy said. and why don't we cooperate with poland today as actively as we cooperate with russia yes, he says, we somehow were. more together in one state. i say, well, look what is happening today, who extended a helping hand to us, with whom we are together, yes, with who together we will defend our native threshold. and , well, you don't need to know what was before, you need to look at what is now, we go to

such a small historical export, and we dissolve all the points above it. and what, in your opinion , reacts more to students? i don’t know what kind of things films are, there are some together, trips to the museum, some promotions, there are brandings, anything in order to bring these ideas. i think that more, probably, some joint trips with the same classes of leaders to the museum. ah, from the pioneer squads, they were going to birch potatoes and bring them just to show the first concentration camp. and we very often, uh, adopt such a practice as visiting memorial plaques, and visiting monuments e of the great patriotic war, that is, our pioneer squad and cleaning helps to plant trees somewhere, fatherland. we are talking now in general about that time. yes. and here are all these memorial plaques. this is all in general, our students see what happened to them the same class teacher in history lessons, all this

tells, and they understand what it was and how hard it all got. here is what , as oleg notes , teachers have a huge impact on young people. therefore , we should pay serious attention to training. they talked about this in the program, because after the parents this is the next authority be a sociological study, in my opinion, we were talking about who is still more important in the dispute, uh, parents or the school in terms of educational work. a? if so, here are the numbers for themselves. we personally talked about family historical memory, and today it is not such ancient history either. i mean the 20th century. as there, for example, the sixteenth twelfth. today you can still ask grandparents, and they talked with those witnesses and thus consolidate this

foundation. but i also want to say something else in the context of the national unity day, that this is definitely yes , the foundations of historical events, but this is not only story. this is our society now. uh, our people, uh, labor united. uh, this most complicated cleaning company, which took place in such conditions. this is also the unification of the belarusians is typical of toloka when we unite to solve a particular problem , and this is also part of our national unity, which has always been with you and will be, and we also need to make a homogeneous unity for this. it rejects radicalism. understand? this is my opinion, again my personal opinion. i believe that when the people are united and strong. he can forgive. look how strong our president is, that he never said in his life that some nation is bad, these are ukrainians , these are our poles, are we really talking about ours, of course, it’s just that he understands that the authorities of these countries are elite, they do everything possible to denigrate him personally, not even

belarus personally. here he is the whole thing, because he is strong and wise. he forgives this whole thing, realizing that with his behavior , with his thoughts, he unites around himself, because the people's president. yes now their artificial out of the border. well artificially the image of an enemy from some people who, as it were, had to do this. our head of state congratulates on the holiday. just recently, the people of ukraine yes independence people want other peoples, because close people, and their politicians. this artificially planted america was liberated from its land. currents, bad or la-la. actually , western belarus was freed from the unfair polish authorities, because there was no justice for the belarusians there. listen if even so family stories of brothers, and in my family. eh, my wife. there, the settlers stayed on the territory of belarus to live, these are people who came here on behalf of

the polish government in order to develop these lands. yes, and the polish horsemen remained in the bobruisk region and, in fact, they lived and everything was fine, everything was fine. those who remained in belarus became belarusians. after all, there are ethnic poles in pinsk, of course. i'm like them. normally our poles, of course, our poles. here we are. the fact is that the same poles joined the red army in 1944 and 1941. year people are different, but all we should have one common value, belarus interests of belarus and, uh, become a tasty morsel. maybe only the weak, and the weak is shattered from the inside. there is no way we can become such places. each historical figure must be evaluated within the framework of that historical time, when it was i have already told historians. it says all the actions that are performed. now they are in the modern world

in the thirty-ninth year. we lived differently, but at the same time, what we got. these people who did it, they became our heroes.