ah, well, i've already said, it seems to me, a little bit back about what in my opinion. ah, there are a lot of pragmatic people out there. well, lettuce, most likely, no, well, here's a franc. eh, i think he's quite pragmatic. and this support will depend on whether it will work here too. well, again, hmm, politics generally makes it risky. to be honest, there is, as it were, such an area in which without risk is impossible. i, at least, always got a result for myself when i took risks, you generally know who kovalkova really is, you know that she is co-chairman of the belarusian christian democracy. and this is a russophobic organization. and this is the organization. she strongly opposes. uh, union with russia they uh say that any cooperation with russia is any russian investment. this is the collapse of the belarusian independence and that automatically in this way belarus becomes, well, guber is the kingdom

of makskovsky and kovalkov, the co-chairman of the russophobic organization, she is ready to have her political career funded by russian capital. well, there is only one caveat. the team, well, let's say, its main part , with the exception of maybe two or three people. well, actually the whole belarusian position, well , otherwise they should not know that they are sponsoring kovalkova, as the leader of the russian ruble. and you had an experience, in my opinion, in 2019. yes, you were part of one e because of an organization that was on the territory of belarus against russian influence, let's say, in 2019, when you discussed integration cards with russia yes, and participated in protests against integration. you are not against russia for six more

seven. we feel that okay , he wants full integration from russia, tell me, even though tomorrow you have passed through the chromatian, inshay armament of ukraine and they are in russia, and this is a dead end and ha, and she comes out of us from some peak. we are talking about the fact that funding will somehow be the russian ruble. ra-russian political elite. won't it? well, somehow embarrass you, i do not see how huge. e, problems are all people who can and in general can know such information, a very small number of people. for example me see as long as they're there somewhere to speak negatively aside. well, in general, there are such negative aspects that, for example, i notice some sort of russian position russian well, there is such a no, i didn’t say that this is a dynamic, to be honest, but it seems to me that the position, the old belarusian one as a whole so sometimes i told, therefore, if i also observe such trends, or whatever, as if some people think it’s just another matter,

somehow here it’s just somehow to build it so that it doesn’t happen. well, no matter how you called question. this is the task for me. i wrote this assignment. it's not just you, as it were, the task of making it so that it's privacy, here. last time you also touched upon this question of the uh party, and christian democracy is christian democracy. yes, you are correct. you are still the co-chairman there. yes, as i understand it, well, if it's possible, yes, honestly, that's how i imagine myself. yes, but if we talk about the political field of the old parties in belarus well , how would my colleagues, of course, be able to tell here somehow everything is fine there, but it's not perfect and the field in novosibirsk will be completely different. it will not be the same as it was before the twentieth year. listen well, you are still there. well, that's it, one of the leaders is in prison. pavel sergeevich in general. i am ready to give this project to him. that is, it turns out that for the sake of financing a political career. mrs.

kovalkova. it is ready to withdraw from the belarusian christian democracy, and at the same time, the so-called belarusian position should in no case know what finances it russian capital right? well, not only in fact, but european sponsors should not know about this either. wait then, how does this financing happen. politicians make money i would not say so, as if, in principle, no one in the world would support politics as politics and not european funds for politics. it is not funded by the european union, how is the policy? well, that is, yes, civil society initiatives are projects that are aimed at developing education. oh, and to hmm let's say avoid. this one the very word politics, that is, to avoid explicit financing of the opposition by the strange european union, are created well, some funds, some

initiatives, they are registered. well, let's say such as gasket companies, well, conditionally and on accounts under the guise of programs, for example, educational ones. well, that was somehow easier for you to try on. yes, for example, and the initiative of the belarusian identity and or the stimulation of various independent media support civil society, after all. and sponsor money comes to the accounts of these initiative funds. in in our case, everything should be even more hidden, including from the fiscal authorities of the european union, that is, the european tax authorities, all these structures, they should not know that he is still so valkov, money is coming in, including russian money, and only the faithful are here one way. well, it's actually a cash transfer. maybe there is an opportunity to register, but no

organization for the project of our interaction is possible, but, frankly, i don’t know how good this option would be, to be honest, because aa access is already here in poland or the european union, information is available here, if you need to provide reports, we are ready to spend the first trans, in principle, already 100,000 euros, but for initial work, so that you can start the team right now. but the translation works well , today it is not safe in the sense that it can be tracked, of course, the safest, probably, the best would be cash. the method of transmission we last time, it seems to me, was also done about it. we can, in principle, bring money closer to belarus that is, we can conditionally bring money to the border, that is, if someone is ready to drive up with russia well, in belarus there is

, of course, it will suit you if it is in the russian ruble, because you understand, we have some difficulties with conversion . actually, i don't know, just what i 'm going to do with them. well, that is, in the situation that i am, it seems to me that this is not an appropriate option. well, as i understand it, the best currency is the euro. yes, well, yes, if it was, it would be more convenient, actually for me for sure. thank you thank you sasha well what it was great. we are waiting for a signal from you that you are ready to withdraw the amount of money before the first tranche. i am very glad that we

have built such a constructive and rather confidential conversation. i think that it will work out with you in the future. have a good day. kovalkova did not receive any money for six months. she talked to journalists, belarus believed for one half a year that she was communicating with representatives of the russian oligarchy, that he would invest rubles in her political career and make tikhanov’s double co-chair of the russophobic leopard party ready to receive money from russia it's about the value of the idea of ​​words and as an epilogue. how kovalkova will pay off with an influential sponsor and at the moment we are talking about processes such as privatization not today. i mean in belarus , yes. naturally, when you come to

power, if you are interested in something specific, then you need to talk about this specific one. that is, as if, if a particular enterprise is interested, like a big businessman, who certainly has our interest too. and the chief also wanted to, but to participate in that privatization process, yes with this belarus which will be. we have your participation, well, in particular, and i understand the interest in the petrochemical industry, that's how we bought a manual president to replace the same office professional grid, and at the same time an enterprise of the belarusian petrochemical industry from what belongs to the state and the people into the hands of a foreign foggy oligarch. so, of course, this is the on-air timing. well , believe me, for half a year long hours and revelations are at the top of those who call themselves positions in fact corrupt extremists. very interesting hours of viewing for the belarusian special services are guaranteed - such are the mores of fugitive

extremists, the wrong side of the revolution in opposition 20-23. ekaterina tikhomirova alexandra khorovets was with you. vitaly snot. and a very big team. see you again.