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residents are traveling to poland to meet with young refugees from ukraine, hundreds of children who were evacuated from the war zone. previously, the british were also in refugee camps without parents, convicted of child abuse by a merciful landing. we landed next to children who had no one to protect them. how it ended we can only guess, but i don’t want to do it because it’s scary. take care of children , be attentive to their worries, notice mood changes, do not be lazy to live in their world, so as not to let danger into it childhood, draw a red thread in the consciousness of every child the idea that his body is inviolable, and any encroachments on this inviolability are a reason. inform adults about them; do not hesitate to ask for help when you need it; it is easier to eradicate any problem in its infancy, but also to monitor what gets into your gadgets. and thoughts are a category of content and fantasy that
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to listen, well, the bt studios are so impressive. during my professional activity, no one has ever appeared funny. are you ready ? why did they have an effect here? well, apparently, because i was going to buy the belarusian opposition. it’s like half a million euros, but let’s say a meeting of the long-term perspective and
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bonuses and among tikhanovskaya’s closest associates, there will be one. yes, what will be ready to move her from her chair to lure her nearest environment. well, in fact, independently lead that very belarusian opposition. she is called tikhonov’s comrade-in-arms. this is olga president olga kovalkova member of the presidium of the coordination council of the so-called belarusian opposition kovalkov's path to politics was thorny, but unprepossessing 4 years from 2004 to 2008 working in the district administrations of minsk lawyers accountant in 2017 kovalkova
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became co-chairman of the unregistered party belarusian christian democracy one of the most russophobic organizations on the territory of belarus in 2016-2019 was nominated as a candidate for deputy in the parliamentary elections, but the sacred figure for the belarusian opposition of three percent did not even exceed four in 2020 after an unsuccessful primary before the election race, where kovalkova also did not collect the required number of signatures, she sided with tikhonov and the three-headed svetlana is quiet to the headquarters. i tried to promote the women's rebellion of women's chains, the so-called solidarity. however, for now, some wandered around in chains until the end of the night. kovalkova evaporated in solidarity, somewhere. at the very beginning of the woman's action at the headquarters of the three nymph there was no room for a fourth. i want to shoot simply as it comes out.
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maybe give, bring for example, a telephone to the light of euro-democracy, maybe svetlana we can give you food svetlana good afternoon, and when the ranks of the inspirers beat, the maidan began to thin out to the point of indecentness and everyone rushed beyond the cordon. she rushed there. and kovalkova, with a backpack on her shoulders, calmly examined at the belarusian-polish border, waited for the bus on the grodno-warsaw route and left for europe , where to this day she is called from memory a comrade-in-arms, a self-proclaimed leader and member of its coordinating council. this is something like a parliament, but where no one has ever elected anyone. kovalkova was sentenced in absentia by the minsk city court to 12 years in prison and is included in the list of persons involved in terrorist activities. well, she’s an unprepossessing person, but
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she still has a lot of emotion and a big burden for slava. in fact, it was enough to put a little pressure on the points of her ambitions and political unrealization. she didn't even really ask any questions. well, who are we, what are we, there was only one question, how many are we? are ready to pay for her to overthrow tsekhanovskaya. let’s take it in order, probably, how long have you been communicating with kovalkova. well, about six months. hmm, first. first , our man talked to her. uh, well, on the eve of march 8 at the end of february. ahh, she was asked for an interview. well, sort of like a journalist, a russian media agent.
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strong women in belarusian politics do you agree with interviews, for example, on islam in the nineties and in this matter more independent interviews with svetlana tikhanovskaya, how strange it would probably be if we only had one the woman was strong in a couple of days. uh, she’s already been offered hmm, let’s say an independent path, an independent path, but a new leader, the belarusian position. we have a number of large and at first glance. they are such invisible and unobvious patrons of the arts. these are such serious people who have a significant impact on democracy, and in russia , including in the cis, our partners , frankly speaking, they are very interested in your person and are ready to assist in your independent political development
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, there is almost a conversation that olga kovalkova is new leader of the belarusian opposition. if you are interested, then i will simply pass on your contact information and they will contact you. ah, interests are not covered, if, frankly speaking, just talking to people who have such aha pizzas in a relationship is not me, so of course i’m interested. well, then the next question arose. how much are we willing to pay for this? politically, we need to draw up some kind of basic minimum budget. yes, this is how much money you would need for all expenses. uh, uh, here’s your path from six months ago i thought. yes uh-huh and kovalkova i sent you a program of my expenses. this is the contents of her office. uh, those are the salaries for her
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team. these are her foreign ones. and on the voyage, well, for example, to the usa hmm britain germany well, in general, there was quite a large, voluminous list. these were flight tickets. accommodation itself. well, yes hmm kovalkova didn’t even forget about the daily allowance for herself and her guys, she came up with 510,000, and 510,000 and 200 euros. i apologize for not answering right away. the presented document contains amounts from real life and can be justified in in line two, the amounts indicated are approximate, based on my knowledge of the cost of the work of such specialists. it includes, uh, a political campaign with the development of a position on various issues and their promotion, creation of websites, maintenance of social networks and website preparation of content , communication with journalists. promotion of the interview contact me all ideas that
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may someday, but are implemented together, lead to some result ; trips alone will not lead to results. without travel they will not lead to results. what is going on now in the so-called belarusian opposition, well, the squabbling fight for a piece, in fact, a couple of months later. i had already communicated with kovalkov as an assistant
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to that same russian philanthropist who was very interested in her. well, not just her, but her nomination to political olympus instead of tikhonov’s. hello olga yes, good afternoon. how are you doing? well, well it was a long long and very frank conversation. i would even say, probably, almost two friends, to the point that, well, let’s say , i knew when she was going on vacation. we we talked, of course, not only about this . we also understand about the crisis of the belarusian opposition, how within this opposition an opposition to the opposition has formed within it. well , everyone is fighting, if not for a place in the sun, then well, at least for their
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livelihood in itself. the belarusian agenda itself in europe, it’s no longer even relegated to the second place, probably to the tenth plan, and there everyone is more interested in ukraine; that’s where the money goes. well, the european union doesn’t have extra funds, but the belarusian opposition does. well she doesn't have new ideas, therefore, they are already rolling old ideas, in the second and even in the third circle. so, also in the second round , we are already planning to implement some things, of course, in order to implement a photo strategy today in such a rather difficult situation, we need a human resource, as it were. this also includes a need to revise the strategy now. i’m not sure, it’s just that the office is ready to reconsider this is the problem, but people seem to see it. this is my my my feeling. yes people see it. and well, they probably have less and less it becomes interesting, maybe there is an opposition , because it seems to be involved in such
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upper levels, or completely internal processes. we discuss our prospects, our issues, the european union, not the european union, some international treaties. a little more. i think for a year and a half people will have even more disappointments. if there is no result, because it is already clear that e.g. well, as if that’s the case. eh, more than half the way has been completed. it seems to me that your position is the way of the twentieth year the problem that has arisen with us is that we cannot provide this result; if we provide it, then it is more likely to be some kind of quarrel, some kind of internal showdown. well, that is, here is the result of the work of the previous two years. and my dream message was that , for example, the latvians would come with their ideas and receive feedback. they had fear. eh, as if why come, firstly, as if we ourselves know, and, secondly, they were afraid, as it were, of criticism, and you feel all the strength to lead this
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the position, in general, in principle, to lead the opposition movement in belarus is interesting, i mean. you understand , to become a leader, to become a new face, because i feel the strength, well, that is, i am here. eh, as it seems to me, he always feels. well, that is, in 2020, including in previous years, you did not have any conflicts. with beets and i, don’t you be afraid that i’m not here. this is not an attitude when we are friends there , that’s why uh. i’m definitely not afraid of that here. i didn't go into the office in '20 after all. well, that is, in principle, my position has always been. well, uh, as an independent policy. i didn’t want to be in the team even in the twenties. well, not everything suits me, like the processes, how they were organized in the same patchwork, there, i don’t know who, well, there ’s not much ability. i'm on the mountain now.
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who, uh, in order to become a leader on their own, because uh, i’ll voice my position again, because uh, often people are executors, and not bearers of strategy and value, there is a vision or ideas, and this is the problem. and people above hmm what they heard, as it were, the performers cannot rise, as it were, because there is no such thing. well, people seem to have a little broader views, or something. well, in russian there really isn’t much opposition. unfortunately me. now, unfortunately, the leaders have grown. even after twenty years, i’m not honest, i’m not afraid of conflicts. you know, we have the most conflict in the latushka community. uh, with us and how the only person he is afraid of is, i, therefore , it seems to me that this also speaks about certain skills. wait, there is kovalkova. she believes that all those who were created and supported by the west in one way or another after , well, the white mordan of 2020 are somehow politically impotent, they are complete zeros. well, kovalkova has been in
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politics for much longer, she has a lot of experience, which she doesn’t have, for example, at tikhonovskaya. these are the kind of feminine things that make kovalkova ready to file down the legs of tikhonovka’s chair, but that’s what we were talking about. needed for this. the only resource resource is money , money, so that at the right time. kovalkova could have shot. now kovalkova has 14 in her team person, but she believes that part of tikhanovskaya’s team is capable of defecting to her camp who, for example, well, there are very pragmatic people. for example, prank party if people who are ready to support you, i mean from the team of the same
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svetlana from the team of that golden girl. well, here comes the opposition to the national team, which exists today, but in separate parts. eh, well, i already said, it seems to me, a little bit ago about the fact that in my opinion. and there are a lot of pragmatic people. well, lettuce, most likely, no, well, here are the francs, uh, i think he quite pomatic, and this support will depend on whether it will work out here too. well, again, politics in general is a risky business. to be honest, there is, as it were, an area in which it is impossible to avoid risk. yes , at least i always got results for myself when i took risks. do you even know who kovalkova really is? you know that she is the co-chair of the belarusian christian democracy. and this is a russophobic organization. and this is the very organization. she is categorically against it. uh, union with russia, they say that any cooperation with russia is any russian
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investment. this is the collapse of belarusian independence and that automatically in this way belarus becomes, well, the province of the kingdom of max of pskov and kovalkov , the co-chairman of the russophobic organization , she is ready for her political career to be financed by russian capital. there is only one nuance. the team, well, let’s say, the main part of it, with the exception of maybe two or three people. well, actually the entire belarusian opposition. well otherwise they don't they should know that they sponsor kovalkova like the russian ruble. and you had, uh, experience, i think, in 2019. yes, you were part of one because of an organization that was on the territory of belarus against russian influence, let’s say, in 2019. uh, when they discussed
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whether there were integration cards with russia. yes, and she participated in protests against integration. you’re not against russia, we still feel six seven , that’s okay, he wants complete integration from russia , tell me, even if you wake up huge tomorrow, inshay the fortune tellers of ukraine, i’m not in russia this is a dead end and ha and we have it coming out pika leaves without us. we are talking about the fact that financing, one way or another, will be in russian rubles. ra- russian political elite. won't it be? well, i don’t see any way to confuse you, no matter how huge. uh, problems of reality, there are not all people who can and in general know such information. a very small number of people, for example, but i see. not yet , but somewhere there is a negative expression to the side. well, in general, there are some negative aspects that i, for example, notice about some russian ones. no i didn't say what it was dynamics, to be honest, but
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it seems to me that the position, the old belarusian one as a whole , is sometimes right away, therefore, if i also observe such trends or something, like all some people. it's just something else, something different here. you just somehow arrange it so that it doesn’t happen. well, as if it didn’t raise the question. this is a task for me. it’s not just that the task is to do it in such a way that it is confidential. last time we also touched upon this question, uh, party, and christian democracy, christian democracy. yes, if correct. you are still a co-chairman there. yes, as i understand it, well, if it’s possible, yes, honestly , so i’m my own chairman. yes, but, if we talk about the political field of the old parties in belarus . well, my colleagues, of course, can tell you that everything is fine there, but this not great and the field is a lot of things completely different. it will not be the same as it was before the twentieth year. listen, well, you're still there now. well, that’s exactly what you’re listed as, count
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one of the leaders sitting in perm, pavel in middle, but overall i’m ready to give him this project. that is, it turns out that for the sake of financing a political career. mrs. kovalkova. she is ready to leave the belarusian christian democracy and at the same time the so-called belarusian position should in no case know that it is financed by russian capital, right? well, not only in fact , european sponsors should not know about this either. wait then, how does this financing happen? politicians can’t make money, i would say that, as if, in in principle, no one in the world will support politics as a politician and non-european policy funds. it is not funded by the european union as a policy? well, that is, yes, civil society initiatives are projects that are aimed at developing education. oh, well, and in order to hmm, let’s say to avoid this
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very word in politics, that is, to avoid obvious financing of the opposition, strange european union people are creating, well, certain funds, certain initiatives, they are registered. well, let's say such companies as gaskets, well, conditionally and on accounts under the guise of programs, for example, educational ones. well, that was somehow easier for you to try on. yes, for example, the initiative of belarusian identity and or stimulation of various independent media support civil society, in the end. sponsorship money goes into the accounts of these initiative funds. in our case, everything should be even more hidden, including from the fiscal authorities of the european union, that is, the european union tax office, all these structures, they should not know that he still receives money from valkov, and including russian money and
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only one path is possible for the faithful here. well, this is actually a transfer of cash. perhaps there is an opportunity to register any organization for the project of our interaction. i don’t know how good this option is, to be honest, because there is already more access to information here or in the european union. well, that is, you need to provide a report. we are ready for the first trans, in principle, to spend 100,000 euros, yes, for the initial work, so that you can start the team now for a-a translation work, well today and is unsafe in the sense, yes, that it can be tracked? of course, the safest, probably the best, would be cash. method of transmission yes, last time, it seems to me, we did this for the same reason. and we can, in principle, bring money closer to belarus
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, that is, we can bring money conditionally to the border, because if someone is ready to drive up, well, yes, well, in belarus well , there is in belarus, of course, it will suit you if it is in russian rubles, because you understand, we have some conversions difficulties. when i don't know, just what am i going to do with them? well, that is, in the situation that i am in, it seems to me that this is not an unsuitable option. well, as i understand it, the euro currency is better. yes, well, yes, if it was, it would be more convenient, in fact, for me for sure. thank you thank you sash, that was great. we are waiting for
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your signal of readiness to withdraw the amount of money before the first tranche. but i am very glad that you and i have had such a constructive and rather confidential conversation. i think that everything will work out with you in the future. have a good day. kovalkova did not receive any money for six months. she spoke with journalists from belarus 1, for six months she believed that she was communicating with representatives of the russian oligarchy, that he would invest rubles in her political career and make tikhanov 2.0 co-chairman of the russophobic leoparty is ready to receive money from russia, this is about the price of the idea of words and as an epilogue. how will kovalkova pay off
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her influential sponsor? and at the moment we are talking about processes such as privatization not for today. i mean in belarus yes. naturally, when you come to power, if you are interested in something specific, then you need to talk about this specific thing. that is, as it were, if you are interested in a specific enterprise, like a large businessman, who certainly is also interested in ours and the chief also wanted to, but participate in the privatization process, yes , which will happen in belarus. but it’s with your participation, well, in particular, and i understand the interest in the petrochemical industry, that’s how we bought a manual president to replace the same office industrial network, and at the same time an enterprise the belarusian petrochemical industry from what belongs to the state and the people into the hands of a foreign nebulous oligarch. so, of course, this is broadcast timing. well , believe me, in six months there have been long hours and revelations
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from the top of those who call themselves the position of corrupt extremists. a very, interesting watch for the belarusian intelligence services, such are the morals of fugitive extremists, guaranteed. the reverse side of the revolution in the opposition 223 with you were ekaterina tikhomirova alexander khorovets, vitaly soplitsy. and also a very large team. until next time. heartfelt congratulations. thank
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