tv [untitled] BELARUSTV September 9, 2023 11:10am-12:01pm MSK
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[000:00:00;00] donbass you know marat sergeevich this is an absolutely correct idea, because the people of donbass unfortunately , not only are they being destroyed physically, they are trying to exert a very strong influence on them morally , first of all, they are destroying the spirituality of this people, and, unfortunately, somewhere they are achieving their goal, they are achieving it first total western western european american propaganda and politicians who decided to wipe donbass off the face of the earth. we understand perfectly well in donbass that there is actually a war going on now between good and evil, if we take the spiritual side questions actually between god and satan and the orthodox donbass arose. such a sacrifice. yes, overshadowing with itself, let’s say today, it has been overshadowing with itself for the tenth year already. our great homeland, our mother russia, is protected and defended by orthodoxy
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, it protects the right of our children to life, and i’m not even saying that, not so much orthodoxy. how many universal human values, because any nation, any religion , will have these values alone - muslims or buddhists, in the first place of this life, human life, love, family, as the most important value, and uh, in the fourteenth year, when this trouble came, it came completely unexpectedly. even in donbass, we could not imagine that the army itself, the armed forces of ukraine , would shoot its own people. you know, it's very scary. it's very scary when we are told that russia has invaded. yes, russia did not invade anywhere. why did donbass become you, why did it rise and hmm after all, no one was the first to attack kiev? neither 1 cm is not the same as a meter nor 1 cm is not kharkov nor odessa nor the zaporozhye region of donation. well, the fighters of the people’s militia did not occupy donbass, because at the beginning it was a spontaneous people’s
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militia. people became the first shots. now, if you could see on the internet, this is how it really was. yes, they made checkpoints, but when the ukrainian army in tanks tried to enter the city of slavyansk, this is our resort town. there is a reserved zone, there are no military bases or military units there. they were never there. this is a protected resort area, where people were treated, where people were treated, and nature, and there there were sanatoriums, people restored their health. this is a unique reserve. and so, that’s why the regular kiev army, that is, the armed forces of ukraine, began to attack the reserve; what goal did they pursue? eh, that's how they explained it, that's how they explained it. what is this supposedly supposedly? terrorists from russia have arrived in donbass and want to take over ukraine. what kind of terrorists do you understand? why did the people of donbass come out to the square in 1914, when
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there was maidan in kiev? after all, we have a great maidan in kiev. now after these years we understand that these are all maidans and you had an attempt. thank you to your president. we simply admire alexander grigorievich , lukashenko, who stopped this whole thing right away in our country, unfortunately, our president simply cowardly ran away at that time, yanukovych , and did nothing, that’s all. it spilled out and moved on. why did you get up? donbass because these very protected lands in 1914, it turns out, were sold to the american company sherv for the development of shale gas. what is shale gas? this yes? we have, indeed. uh, there are small deposits of shale gas in those very places, but these are protected areas, and the gas is very toxic if this gas gets into what development means. bina development means that this gas enters the water into the soil. yes, into the environment air. every living thing dies there. this chemical poisoning is underway. let’s say that the same water from the seversky donetsk river, from which we all drink, is drunk by
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the entire donbass and is not against this with arms in hand. she is a square on a square in donetsk in kramatorsk, in mariupol, in slavyansk , residents of donbass came out to object to our native land. it was simply destroyed for the sake of some foreign oligarch, and against these people. that’s after our president fled and was the acting president of the turchins. now, turchin is actually to blame. he gave the command to send regular ukrainian troops. it’s good to shell donbass. and as a result, during these nine years of this nightmare, yes, what statistics are being born now. i said that on the most the worst figures in the entire history of ukraine. now, based on the results of the twenty- second year, the birth rate was 2.4 per 1,000 people, and the death rate was 16.7. that is
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, our mortality rate now in the donbass of the donetsk people's republic exceeds the birth rate seven times. here, look olga nikolaevna russian statistics. yes, and i’m raising it, so it’s still, no, i mean, after mobilization, 9 months of the cherished yes, birth rate calculation. well, not here yet. comparisons, at least. well, there is an expert opinion that there will not be a strong decline and outflows. we will play, also not as big as they voiced, some pluses are starting to return. but this is there in russia, yes, and the ukrainian numbers are rising sergeevich i would like to say that i am an obstetrician gynecologist. i have more than 35 years of experience as an obstetrician-gynecologist, and a practical doctor at that. i came to my first workplace, then it was the donetsk regional center for maternal and child health. now this is the donetsk republican but this is the same medical institution in which i worked in the hall for more than 35 years, that is, every day we delivered babies, went to
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operating room and uh, there are demographic indicators, in addition to fertility and mortality, which can be called prognostic indicators. there is such a so-called total fertility rate indicator, this is, uh, the average number of children that a woman gives birth to during her reproductive age. yes, that is , this is the moment while she can give birth to children. according to all world statistics, in order for the country to develop even differently, in order for there to be simple reproduction of the population in the country. yes this indicator should be at least two, that is, the father and mother came and created a family, at least two children should replace them. i read that the ratio should be somewhere around 2.15. in order for there to be reproduction , for the country to prosper, this coefficient must be higher than three, that is , it must be the production of labor, no matter how we say it. yes, family, the value of children, but if we take it on the scale of the country of any
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belarus, russia, ukraine , america, any country, but in order for the population not to die out, let’s say this, yes it must be called simple reproduction of two people. two people came and must remain after them, this is the minimum, the minimum that should be for the country to develop. i already said there should be more, at least three or more then there is an influx of labor. are there any prospects for development? unfortunately, we already had this indicator in ukraine, long before any hostilities . it was below two, it was somewhere around 1.6 here in donetsk, donetsk and donetsk lugansk region. he was generally 09 , imagine 09 children on average. yes in one family. yesterday i was on the internet on purpose. yes , yesterday i looked on the internet specifically at what indicators. now in russia in the twentieth year, this indicator was 1.5 in the twenty- second - 1:42, that is, there is still dust of the population. in donbass, no one
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counted it because it was in connection with sexual activity, but something took into account the fact that before the war it was 0.9. i think that now it is somewhere around 0.8, while the fertility rates that we have in ukraine, no matter what they say, no matter what they say, they have too there is a catastrophic decline in the birth rate, but their population decline is also catastrophic, and not only due to immigration due to the war , because even though they are hiding their losses, but we literally talked yesterday. i looked at the indicators for kyivstar mobile communications, a very popular mobile communications service in kiev, and so the central office of kyivstar itself reports that their number of subscribers has decreased by 800,000 800,000. this is only according to kyivstar, which simply went offline. yes, we can assume that some people left, but even if they went somewhere to europe but they can continue using the same messengers. yes, there is somewhere in the telegram on whatsapp to stay on your ukrainian numbers, but no, these numbers
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are simply crossed out, that is, you can already judge the losses of ukraine plus. of course, with the lifestyle that is now being promoted in the promotion of same-sex marriage, lgbt perversion of children, violence against children hmm, very soon this population will decrease, uh, by a multiple, so i am sincerely sorry. i myself know what my origin is. i have a dad ukrainian, russian mother, that is, i have 50% russian blood and 50% ukrainian blood. i always wrote in my dad’s passport that i was ukrainian. i was very proud and so were my children, especially my eldest son. we were all proud that we are ukrainians - this has always been a nation, very kind, very hospitable, very hospitable, hospitable well, here we are. i think that the american political propagandists have achieved their goal. they quarreled one people. this is the worst thing. you see, the worst thing was the civil war, when we watched and studied history in school, and civil war a hundred years ago. well,
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yes, when the red and white fought there, the soviet government was against it. the guards against the empire was collapsing, the russian empire was taught to us at school that yes, here is the king. it was bad. empire - it was bad hmm but red white red were good white bad hmm you see now. eh, i’m going through the civil war for ten years. we can say that the most vile thing that can happen is the great patriotic war. well, yes. it was very scary , it was bloody with great casualties, but everything was clear there. there was an external enemy, hitler's germany. uh, the country of the soviet union is the entire soviet people. it doesn’t matter, a russian ukrainian, a belarusian tajik, an armenian, everyone stood up to defend their united motherland and for those europeans. we were russians. we were all russians, we will always be russians, and now we are all and now, when we are for them, when one brother fights against another
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brother, when in the neighboring trenches there are hmm people who have passed, for example. afghanistan who served together in afghanistan and this it was like this with us at the beginning in the fourteenth year, when they recognized each other by their voices and said, listen to the boar. so it's you. you and i are there, uh, in afghanistan, do you remember? yes, i remember, well, now you and i are fighting against each other. you know, i’m very sorry for the ukrainian people, who fell under this propaganda, they believed it, and they instilled such hatred towards us, uh, the same as like they are to the russians. now, as i understand it, hatred is being cultivated , hatred for belarus is already underway, because because belarus with russia hmm well, if only bringing to this question. yes, but here are the numbers that some experts voice, that 400,000 dead are much more, much more, much more, you understand, a lot. these are the ones that are missing. uh, in fact, these are dead people because what
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does missing mean? this means that they didn’t count him, didn’t take him away, or as a result of, let’s say, some kind of massive shelling. well, for example, if the sun shines, it burns everything, that is, people burn. there they just sunbathe in their hundreds and thousands. no one is counting them, but these figures are that about 7 million people left ukraine and four and four and a half million are not going to return there at all. they are from your point of view. really. i think it’s quite realistic, because well, normal people. uh, now they simply can’t live in ukraine, firstly, uh, it’s very difficult, because now you’ve probably seen and that’s it, on social networks it’s been declared universal to mobilize everyone , including the sick and the mentally ill, and how to mobilize all medical workers. i don't understand, but this is hmm unreasonable. so they call them limitedly
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fit for military service. and how limited are they really? or are they fatally totally limited, you know, for example, people infected with hiv can fight calmly, that is, they do not pose any danger to others. well, unless they live, uh, do not enter into same -sex sexual relations, do not infect each other forever, but while there, he sleeps will arise several years will pass, that is, hiv-infected people can fight with an open form of tuberculosis is a huge danger to others in one way, and the copy is that the infection immediately spreads to the entire military consumption. epileptics. you see, it’s generally scary to call on an epileptic. after all , he may have an attack; unfortunately, we had such situations when in 1922. at first we called up the military registration and enlistment offices and sometimes it happened. so they took away guys with epilepsy, don’t pay attention to that. and during the battle, the man began to have a seizure, and he
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pulled the trigger of the machine gun. yes it happened to him epilepsy attacks. he i understand what he’s doing, he’s falling and he can simply shoot his own, he’s driving a combat vehicle , if he’s driving a tank, that’s well, and then a mentally abnormal person who is given a weapon in his hands, someone looked at him the wrong way, someone offended the commander. offended, colleague. he said it wrong or looked wrong. but he can shoot the entire personnel of his unit or explode a grenade or whatever, well, that is, this is objectively something we are not trying to pull off here. no, we are not pulling this. that is. i'm like a doctor i'm reasoning. here i am speaking as a doctor. yes. eh, which one else can pursue? ukraine goals? i think in this way i’m trying to get rid of people on whom i need to spend money on treatment, for example, feelings are you know what blasphemy. they do, what kind of violence they do, what do they do in general, when they i mean, the ukrainian army. well, uh, i don’t know, what about the regular ones, maybe not. those who were drafted into the army, and those who were in our battalion, are worse than the nazis during the great patriotic war. what atrocities? they they did it in the sea, the waves fell, but in other
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cities it’s just scary. here i am even now. it’s scary to talk about this, that is , fascism, fascism is the worst thing, and neo-fascism, which is happening now. this is much worse than the fascism that existed in the forties. that's forty. the first forty, the fifth, you understand, we need to talk about this, including in this studio, so that our viewers can hear. we also have oshchepenites who are now fighting in ukraine or have gone to poland in order to learn military skills and return here to establish your own democracy, the same as they are installing a national security system or trying to establish on the territory of donbass yes, but now we are talking more about men. yes, war is a man's business, but a woman's. they give life. yes, it’s somehow not customary to talk about this now. the nazis are shelling the cities of donbass. every day movement, including from the artery with cluster munitions is now direct
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fire. yes, but here’s how: here are women and children in these conditions. and most importantly, how they decide to give birth to children. you know, here. we when it all started it all started, as i said, very unexpectedly. we were all not ready for this; accordingly, no one was ready, neither women nor children. and so, when that uh, president, uh, poroshenko spoke, he had such a famous speech when he said that our children will be, that is, meaning, donbass will be sitting in basements. and our children will study. their. children will not eat there. and our children will eat and so on and so on. eh, the children actually lived in basements. and uh, many to this day, to this day they live in basements during the day. you see, the scary thing is that ours are both children and women. yes, in fact, the people i can’t say that it’s impossible to get used to it, but they adapted, if in the first years of the first 14-15
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years, we flinched there from every hmm , some kind of sound of a blow breaking, but now we clearly define this arrival or are these ours? our children are distinguished by caliber. yeah, now 120 flew somewhere, 155 hit. these are hailstorms. but this is a hymer that came from, well, from a distance it’s understandable. our children understand what needs to be done with us you know, in the fifteenth year, when ukraine completely cut off the donbass from itself. that is , no diplomas were issued to students - they continued to study between our university continued to work. although for us. so i was a teacher and remain a teacher at a medical university. we were ordered by the ministry of education of ukraine to move the university from a huge city. donetsk yes, the small town of krasny liman in which the population is only 4,000 people in this krasny liman there were only 6,000 students and another 2,000 teachers. and we then they were indignant, and we somehow endured during the great patriotic war. nobody moved us, we won’t go anywhere. we stay
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in donetsk and so, uh, and we go to work under fire and our children literally. until the twenty-second year, we studied full-time, because, well, the intensity of the shelling was not so intense now, of course, it was very intense. children. it’s not only that during this time we studied remotely. so now, starting in 2020, i’ll want to go to schools too. drawing unfortunately that's how our students are in the fifteenth year then we had, uh, the rector, associate center bogdana bagdanovich, and he, uh, then we were deciding where to which university in the russian federation could we kind of attach ourselves to, yes, to get a diploma, yeah, certified in the russian federation, and so we had such luck our students, some took the exams in krasnodar, some took the exams in orel, and some took the exams in kursk. and so they told how our students arrived in krasnodar, arrived in krasnodar, were walking along the territory of the university, and at that moment a plane was just flying. well, there were airfields and airports. worked too
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all our students sat down, as if on command. and just like that , the krasnodar teachers who were present covered themselves with their hands from above. they were just in shock, they didn’t stand there crying, because our children behaved like that, well, the students let us down, but by the way, the students showed the best results. this was also noted in the russian federation as good knowledge. what else do our women do? of course they continue to work. here , for example, we have a hospital. when we created the military, we were the first women to join this the hospital is equal to men and most of the hospital employees were also women. they just came people with two higher educations, not doctors. they came , we cleaned the floors, washed them, fed them, changed clothes, they came and said how we could help, we worked absolutely free of charge. it was a volunteer hospital with no salary. and many even receive a salary at their main place of work, they bought food and brought it to the hospital, to feed your book yes, the hospital, which in fact did not exist
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russian and not only literature. she knows many examples of books on medical topics folded times. yes, well, the kokotsky incident. yes, you know, the cancer corps is lying. come on doctor, yes. here you have your own book, your own book of like-minded people. yes, here is the hospital that never existed. why exactly this name? why wasn’t he actually there, he worked for a year and a half 18 months from june 6, 1914 to december 6 , 1915. eh, why this name? because it was not legally registered anywhere, as we said, it was not accepted by the ministry to me by the ministry health care not the department of defense. why is that? well, because it’s a young republic. it had just been created; at that moment we did not believe that the war would last. that is, if a hospital is included in some structure, this means staffing
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and separate funding. well, sort of, the charter and so on. so this is supposed to last for a long time? yes, it has been created, and it will last a long time, that is, in the fourteenth year, when the ukrainian army began shelling the territory of donbass, you thought that this would be sorted out quickly. or rather that the horror, it will stop quickly, it will stop , they didn’t believe that the army itself could shoot. actually the genus. we thought it was given, but this is some kind of absurdity. this is mistake. now they will sort it out there, maybe president poroshenko will come instead of the escaped yanukovych and he will now quickly restore order, but how can they have millions of their own there, and destroy the donbass, which at that time actually accounted for 25% of the total national income of ukraine this was the income of donbass because the main industrial enterprises agricultural and so on and so forth. all this was the most densely populated area. yes,
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you said 4.6. it was the day before. in 1414, on the eve of the war, but i remember very well, when , let’s say, the beginning of the two thousandth, we had such a channel one plus one in ukraine and there was an advertisement for this tv channel, and it was as if he were adding cubes, here are the numbers one plus one and here there were 18, 52. peony 52 million - this was uh the beginning of the two thousandths and in the donbass then in the donetsk region specifically in the donetsk region there were 5.5 million. but then our birth rate was already falling; we already had a high mortality rate. and we already predicted then that with such a birth rate the population would decline, then long before the war it was . this was, well, the beginning of the two thousandth. that is, you did not believe that it would last and therefore it was not legally formalized. but when we went there in september to formalize it, all sorts of bureaucratic delays had already begun. they began to explain to us that the finances were not provided for and were not pledged, but in the book there is a figure of 12,000 people who
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passed through this year to the hospital; in fact , more than 12,000 real people passed through. these were wounded, injured patients, because we had two surgical departments, one therapeutic and surgical departments were on each, and at the beginning we expanded the therapeutic department to 25, then to 30 beds in total, if we take from the hospital, about 125 130 places, we have august september 1914, i was then the chief physician at the hospital, and we regularly spent 5 minutes and 5 minutes, the manager, as always, reported everywhere on the number of fighters. so we, uh, there were days when we had about 200,198,200, we even had 150 beds, how we managed. well, they brought several kamaz or ural trucks of wounded and shell-shocked wounded. and they already knew that there was a hospital and bypassing some of our hospitals, because to be honest, at first, even some, uh, civilian hospitals refused to provide assistance
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to the wounded in and no one was a military man. although this is a militia. you see, for the first time we understood what the people’s militia is in our own experience, these were simple people, simple people were the first people who came out slavic. that's how they stopped the tanks with their hands, guys. you guys are ours. you are our dear cheesecakes. where are you going guys? and the first ones who stood at the checkpoints, guys, someone came with a hunting rifle, someone came with a gun. someone has someone there. eh, there was some kind of award pistol there. here they were the first, who at these checkpoints tried to prevent the ukrainian army from entering well, but tell me honestly, they would have personally brought it to you bandera's men on the operating table, we would operate on him. i would save him, for what purpose, in order to then exchange him for our prisoners of war, we had such cases, but i can’t say the benderaites, well, they are the nazis, somehow now they are showing themselves, well, they have more there and battalions had already been formed, and in the fourteenth year it was a regular army. the armed
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forces of ukraine also brought prisoners to us. we had a situation when five prisoners were brought to our hospital, one of them was very seriously wounded in both legs, uh, then they already knew. it was an officer lieutenant, in my opinion, but as we later got to talking , he was a simple history teacher, from somewhere, either poltava or the poltava region. and at first, of course, they were all very scared. they thought that now they would shoot them right in the yard, and our wounded guys really wanted to do it. they were so, they were so angry. eh, they are shocked that their comrades died, their commanders died, some had their families shot, or those who joined the militia. and if let's say these are the slavs from kramatorsk, these are the cities that were later occupied by the ukrainian army. their families were simply shot, and some were shot. eh, they killed terribly. for example, we had a situation where there seemed to be a small regional center, the city of starobeshevo, starobeshevo district. we have this in the donetsk region. uh, there's
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the son of the chairman of the local council. yes, you were just tied to the tank. and they drove around this city. well, for now, until he died, until he died and such examples could be given a great, great multitude, therefore, of course, there is the horror that fascism brings to itself. this is not a children's game. these torchlight processions are the swastika that they stuff everywhere, this is the ideology of the people. and this dialogue is, unfortunately, a very scary, very terrible ideology of murder. after all, they don’t create anything. they only destroy and simply kill civilians. this , of course, we need to really protect our children from, and i now understand that if you ask, let’s say, this is what we need now, the most important thing is to focus our efforts on. yes i would say for children for teenage children. they must not be missed; they must be educated, the way you raise them in belarus. i spent these days, um, and in the museum. we were in
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the temple yesterday. all saints museums there. uh, under this temple is dedicated to all those who died. the dead of violence, including the victims of concentration camps and those who died in all wars, and we all know the history of belarus . i tell us, belarus is very close. we love it very much since childhood. and we’ve been to khatyn more than once. this must not happen again. people must learn this at the genetic level and never in my life allow what happened in ukraine. because ukraine is an example of what so-called democracy is brought to. so-called liberalism. what all this ultimately leads to is the destruction of one’s own people, the corruption of youth and simply the destruction of the state. ukraine as a state has practically ceased to exist, but has turned into a terrorist state. this is very painful for me to say, because as i say, i am ukrainian myself. grew up born there raised. there's education there it turned out to be a family, and i lived there all my life. and of course, to see how it is destroyed.
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your country is your earth and it all started small. yes, it all started with some kind of scout camps, where they raised those who are now killing us, you know, in relation to children. um, when did it start? there was a battle for mariupol. yes , many of our students took part there, including my nephew. and so he was wounded in mariupol and he told how one sniper held their unit and did not let anyone raise their heads, and it was somewhere very, well, several there, let’s say from a platoon, half of the platoon was shot by one sniper. well, then it was decided that everything was to destroy this sniper, no matter what, when they came to destroy it, the sniper turned out to be a girl of about 12 years old, a 12-year-old teenager. this is just a teenager who cynically and cold-bloodedly shot people who defended this very city of mariupol, that is,
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what they are doing with us now is they take teenage children and they raise them to be killers. after all, now ukraine is a factory for i can’t say otherwise about the production of murders, and belarus needs to really hmmm, you know, try to preserve its country. now i’m taking advantage of the opportunity, taking advantage of the opportunity. i would like to appeal to all citizens of belarus to remain safe. your president save your country otherwise. otherwise, it’s scary to say what might happen. here's a wound that might not have happened. yes, you can’t help but ask about this, you encountered this with the supply of cluster munitions to ukraine. now this is a crime against humanity. there is no statute of limitations. yes, we talked a lot with experts, yes, with the military, but i have never talked to a doctor about this topic, you
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have seen such wounds, yes you have seen them, and we see them every day in what? the horror of these uh, you know, like lethal weapons that's when i hear, uh, we will supply, but not fly to any weapon, lethal lethal. this is a lethal outcome, the weapon initially implies any lethal outcome will be this cold weapon in the form. there is a knife there, a bayonet, and so on, there will be a hot firearm there. eh, artillery , whatever it is, is a lethal weapon, all cynicism and horror. this cluster weapon is that exploding in the air in the air or, let’s say on earth, it spreads at high speed, flying out small parts , it can be anything, nails , nuts, hinges, sharp metal needles of some kind, but at high speed. it's, uh, a weapon that affects a lot of people. and as a rule, they use it where there is a big one, but i’m already silent about the army that
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is there to destroy with the help of these weapons. i'm taking civilians now. no, children are dying and old people are dying from this. well it's dying it was just our civilian population when they scattered the petals. nowadays there are more cassette players. yes, these are cassette tapes, but there was a period when uh instead. these cassette players were scattering petals, such little nonsense. yes mine, which well, just think there. well, whatever, it won’t do much harm. no, a child’s leg will be torn off, but an adult will lose a foot or lower leg and the person will be disabled. they are small, they are as small as their leaves, unnoticed. uh, moreover, we had situations when they flew, uh, somewhere over some village they scattered these petals. they called the emergency services. the sappers cleared it all, but these petals got stuck in the branches of trees on the roof somewhere, and then they fell. the man is sure that his yard has been cleared of mines. he goes out onto the porch in the morning, and under his feet lies this petal
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that fell from his roof. , and there, let’s say, they didn’t see, didn’t notice, didn’t clear the mines. i have one very good former patient of ours who is fighting. he has already suffered a lot of shell shock, the guy. his name is denis. he doesn’t know, although he is not a professional sapper. but he's such a warrior you know, by the way, he’s a russian volunteer. he's been with us for fifteen years. he said that when after the next one. i don’t remember whether it was the ninth or tenth concussion. he was sent to a medical and psychological center for treatment. he arrived there at that moment, our psychiatric hospital was shelled with cluster shells. well, but stuffed with petals uh-huh and he came to him, they say, you know, we can’t hospitalize you. everything here is mined. he speaks where he speaks, well, here he speaks, well then i'll go clear mines he took this huge shovel. i even have pictures when he counted 64 petals, which he collected on the territory literally near the buildings of this uh psychiatric hospital. hmm and here is this information that the united states is going to, following
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great britain, which has already done this, uh, supply it to ukraine projectiles combined with uranium. well, that's what it is from a medical point of view in the short-term long term for the population. well, let's start with the fact that this is all again from the evil one, because it cannot be that uranus is good, kind and not dangerous. in any case , it is radioactive, it is in any case radioactive , and in the periodic table it occupies a certain cell and is defined, like any radioactive element, by a high degree of radioactivity. and, of course, it carries a great danger. if we take a short-term perspective, let's say short-term , well, this is destruction, as they say, well, yes. well, like the sky concerns people there, well , this weapon won’t kill. this is the first , the second is long-term, but belarus is like no one else the other suffered from the chernobyl disaster. there also seemed to be a peaceful atom. yes, there was peaceful atom, a nuclear power plant that provided good,
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cheap electricity. eh, high power and so on. and what we have as a result is how many generations suffered as a result of the accident at the chernobyl nuclear power plant in ukraine and belarus and russia. i have my uncle, who lived in gomel, he was a builder for a long time, nikolai kimovich’s hat. he hmm was one of the first to take part in the liquidation of the consequences. that is , he is like a builder. he's directly in at chernobyl they poured concrete there, i don’t know how. what kind of technology was there, but i know that he was among the first from gomel to be sent there. e, called in and provided assistance there in eliminating all these consequences. he died within a few years of the chernobyl disaster. he had an illness, a real one, and uh, he had terrible headaches, headaches, high blood pressure and everything. it's connected. naturally, with the radiation dose he received during the liquidation of the chernobyl disaster power plants nuclear power plants. this
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is also the case with the so-called depleted uranium, it is not united, it is uranium. that is, yugoslavia has already shown that i have already shown the consequences. why go far? this is hiroshima onagasaki. how many generations, how many generations, uh, sick people are born, if they are born at all, because any radioactive drug. it hits the reproductive system of both men and women very sharply. that is, it affects reproductive cells. that is , not only will there be a large percentage of infertility in people who will live on this territories. but it will not happen yet, at least the half-life of this element. he will not stop his activity. a question that may not be related to your area of work, but you, the future minister of health , were in one way or another a politician, yes, a political figure. they say that there will be no elections in ukraine. well, at least zelensky voices
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such things that even the west doesn’t like. yes, that is, the introduction of martial law, for example, and accordingly, it can be refused. i liked his phrase. if you pay us money, and in addition, and not 300 million, which is actually needed to hold elections , again billions in order to also steal some additional money, maybe, then we will think about how they perceive you. yes, how do they perceive these statements in the donbass, and could he now, with the current water conditions, win? in ukraine why is he so afraid? in your opinion? well, first of all, we all understand perfectly well that zelensky is a puppet. this is a puppet in the hands of, first of all, the united states of america, which is here they are pursuing their policy until the owners from washington give the go-ahead. the same zelensky is asked to hold peace negotiations, and he will not start them. i think he, first of all, he's great when he's not under the influence of drugs. he's great. then, perhaps,
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i was aware of this earlier. what is he signing up for? because now, judging by his appearance, he has degenerated very much. as a doctor, i see that he has deteriorated under the influence of drugs, maybe alcohol, i don’t know, but he has the typical appearance of a drug addict, carelessness in clothes and so on, but the worst thing is the sin that he took upon himself, this is the sin of killing millions of people, already millions. we can speak because these are broken families. these are not born. children. this is the destruction of the gene pool. nations gene pool. after all, the first who went were the first to go, the strongest, the most courageous, the most patriotically minded people, and most often these were young people and, uh, men and women of the middle generation, followed by the older people of our generation who, well, how is it that they are destroying my homeland, and i will sit houses. no, of course not, i’ll go protect her. and then who will continue to give birth if
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young people die, and young people die both on our side and on the other side, that is, in fact, zelensky is destroying his own people. i don’t know what else ukrainians need for them to wake up and uh, as they say in ukraine, it’s crazy. this is what else needs to happen for them to sober up from this. this is to remove these curtains from their eyes and understand that their president is simply destroying his own people, probably, well, it is coming. maybe it's awareness but not everyone and this too, probably needs time. how can you stop a war in one day? you can stop it here at the negotiating table ; we all know very well that any bad peace is better than a good war. well, it seems to me that it definitely depends on him to a lesser extent, because well, who gets more profit? let’s do this from a political point of view, too, america. yes, i don’t think that even in europe it can even be, of course, they also receive some, but still they are interconnected there with america . i never thought that i would believe v
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trump, but i believe him that the war can be ended in one day. if america makes such a decision, i too, you know, i believe him. well, look olga nikolaevna, we talked a lot about problems and hopes in these difficult moments. yes, but we are in belarus now with you, well, really, and i’m glad that you came and came to breathe a little somewhere. perhaps this is the opportunity we have here to help children from donbass. yes, we have a whole program organized that allows us to transport children precisely so that they can rest and rehabilitated, including psychological ones. yes, things matter. here, although our poor people are for this. sorry for such a term, yes , who went to the west, they have already sued us in belarus yes , like for the theft of ukrainian children, but nonsense is nonsense, yes, but you understand, this nonsense is cultivated in the west and is perceived as something
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truthful. okay, here's the conscience. let them have the truth, god sees everything. but how else can belarus and belarusians help donbass in russian? you know what you are already doing by inviting our disabled children to your place for the health of children athletes for sporting events? yes, uh, just visiting belarus is already a lot. why have i met with different people over these days, including i met with your first sector of the central committee of the belarusian republican youth union, alexander lukyanov, and we discussed many issues together , the possibility of joint activities specifically in educating young people, children and youth. what i saw, i would really like it to be here, and we have that patriotism that
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it is vaccinated in belarusian children from this age and we now have our own children. do they also understand what the homeland is? what does it mean to defend the motherland from enemies? what does it mean to defend your city? they tell me, why are you leaving donetsk, there is a war there. somehow, different people also tell me, well, if there is a war, why don’t you leave. i say, you know, if we all leave, who will defend the city? no, i won’t give my donetsk to anyone. i am ready and not only me and my family are ready to lay down their lives for him and so are our children bring up. and when our children come here, they see that you have the same policy of instilling patriotism in children, pride in their motherland and their people. uh, that's what they see. they understand that we are not alone. they see this in russia and they understand and see a completely opposite example in ukraine , of course, our children understand all this perfectly well, where they will go and with whom they will be friends, speaking in simple children’s language. yes, and who
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will they look up to? so i think that such trips, uh, exchange of youth. well i understand that you should come to us now. not particularly convenient, because we are under shelling, but over time. i hope that they will stop and that these mutual trips will be possible as before. eh, i really like the level of your medicine , as a gynecologist myself. once upon a time in 1910 we were here at your conference at your center for maternal and child health , and i really liked it then. your uh, fetal medicine is precisely the opportunity to carry out operations in utero. there is doubled, for example, when there is one fruit there such a phytofetal abscess syndrome, here are various manipulations that can be carried out in utero by your young doctors. they showed this to us, and then we were jealous in a good way. there was no war in belarus then. enough. that's how cool it is. i had to go to belarus for an internship. this could be an internship for our young doctors, which i
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liked. eh, what i saw and what alexander lukyanov told me is building nearby. i build a detachment myself. i am from the first year to the last year of medical school. we drove detachments were put into formation at the beginning in donetsk to the kaluga region and the tyumen region. that is, this is how, firstly, it unites young people. secondly, the most important thing is where you can unite. this is joint work, joint work of adult children and youth, when a person sees that this is the result of my work. yesterday we were told how together, through the efforts of not only young people, of course, deputies and, uh, governors, they restored the khatyn complex. yes, when everyone there either planted a tree, or repaired some kind of tile, or some other passive contribution was made by this upbringing in practice, and you should have it. a very powerful youth organization. i really liked it, but in any case, it will be necessary to restore the republic later, and i think that in this we will definitely not be
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superfluous. little belarusian, i’m really happy because i saw the island of the soviet union. yes, you know, the equipment is modern, but the attitude towards people. uh, the ability to provide any assistance. here it is, hardening. i am a man, soviet , you know, soviet-trained. i can definitely to say that the soviet health care system was the best health care system in the world. you are like a professional for sure. you can compare this with me nikolaevna; unfortunately, i will ask the latter. eh, not philosophical questions at all. this is when the patient is more alive than dead. yes , even the most experienced doctors. they are holding a consultation. yes, to assemble a consultation on ukraine . and if in our opinion, that is, at the negotiating table. our president proposes. he has been constantly talking about this for a long time precisely so
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that people live and sometimes in order to live it is necessary amputate something. as a doctor, you know this, yes. but can anything be healed? you see, uh, such a consultation on ukraine will become possible, we all really dream about it. we really dream of becoming great powers. i don't mean ukraine, but the great powers will sit down at the negotiating table. russia is always open to this and vladimir vladimirovich putin talks about this every time a year ago . they are constantly. you see, in fact, in the minsk agreements, which were then we were so happy and so grateful alexander grigoryevich lukashenko, who proposed, says, well, let’s not in moscow, not in donetsk, not in kiev, in minsk poroshenko yes , which complied, and then it turned out that it was just stalling for time and how many years these negotiations went on for so many years, belarus provided its platform there e premises of the territory, yes, your politicians, please,
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guys. negotiate we are ready. we're ready to help. and here is the situation with var. after all , if alexander had not intervened at all, i don’t know how everything would have ended there, then yes, belarus is a very peace-making country thanks to your president, we bow down. we respect you very much. we brought him a gift from donetsk from the unconquered donetsk, there are cartridges from these cartridges, our blacksmith. we have many master blacksmiths, so they know how swords are melted down into plowshares. yes, as they said before, they make them from these cartridges. hmm roses, symbols. donetsk is , after all, a rose. in our time, when donetsk was a millionaire city and was the first king of the regional communist party. e vladimir ivanovich degtyarev we remember him to this day. our donetsk was the city of ross, e, there was a party task at each enterprise to plant the number of growth bushes, so far the workers at the enterprises can imagine the number. how many were planted in the shakhty around the mines around the factories? well, around the city of donetsk like
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this. eh, together with the flickering palm tree as an example of blacksmithing art. now these are metal ones. roses are made from these girs. we brought such a gift to your president, and we really hope that with its help it will still be possible to organize such negotiations will still be able to stop this fratricidal war. god willing, god willing, but still, in conclusion, i want to say that i am proud, uh, of the donetsk people and i am proud that i am danish and i want to say a low bow to everyone who lives now, who has not left, who works in hospitals in the mines on technical tasks that work, who bakes bread? who makes the medicine? who teaches the children? let him teach remotely, but he didn’t leave. so i want to say something huge. thank you in your country belarus for this friendship for your helping hand, which you are extending to us and i hope that
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we will be friends for a very, very long time and still turn once again to the people of belarus with a request, please save what you have now. under no circumstances allow a single nazi into your country so that his ideas can in no way spread throughout belarus, we see how much belarus has risen, how much we are reaching out to it, as you know, droplets of mercury. here we are beautifully. this is how we are reaching out to belarus. we believe that we will still have a unified state. we believe in this we believe that all our belarus e. donetsk people's lugansk people's republic, but we, as part of russia, will still become a single union state. let it not be called the soviet union. let it be called something else, but we are all one united people. this people should live in a world of love and harmony, under no circumstances should they fight and respect each other, as was the case before. yes, help to understand each other , develop each other and only together. we are slavyansk and alone. slavic nation. only
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together. we can defeat this evil spirits who just raised it, she didn’t raise it for long. we'll knock her head off anyway. that’s because god is with us, and where god is, there is truth and there is victory. therefore, with god’s help, we will definitely overcome everything. we believe in it. well, at least a few words about how it was created, this is a gift. eh, deeply, we respect alexander grigorievich lukashenko from the unconquered inhabitants of donetsk , it was created from, one might say, a natural product. yes, these are shell casings from real shells. this is a real machine gun tape , you see, it was shot and there is no cartridge here. here there are only sleeves. that is, it was in use and our defenders shot every last bullet. and from such shells , from such spent uh, war material , our donetsk blacksmiths pour out roses like this, as a symbol. there is no unconquered donetsk.
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