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development; belarus can be different to understand and feel. you need to see it with your own eyes. the tv channel belarus 24 is on the air, watch us every day, because we are making belarus closer. september days we remember our history with a relisted page of textbooks. and we also talk with our children about the fact that since it was not always the case now that just a hundred years ago belarus was not in its
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current borders that our western land and brest and the great pinsk baranovichi was supposed to become a bridge for polish expansion further east on september 17 , thirty-nine, changed the course of history, the day of the reunification of belarus, its eastern western parts on september 17, thirty-ninth of the last century became a symbol of our timeless national unity. but this experience tells us that it is no less important to be together in peacetime , to work for the good of our people and the fatherland , and we must live in such a way that we will never again repeat the mistakes of the past. to be strong in the face of new threats and challenges of the time, to preserve our peaceful , amazing, beautiful belarus for our children and grandchildren. for several years now, belarusians have been paying tribute to this memorable date, when both the country and the nation again became united. the day of national unity reminds us of the triumph of historical justice that, however
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, today we have some eyesores and eyesores. how to preserve the integrity of the nation, despite geopolitical storms, not to forget the past and preserve the present every day of the people unity. this is our main question. question number one. today we are in a special place , the temple of the book of the national library. it preserves the memory, including the events of the last century, when belarus was, well, for almost 20 years , practically divided in two, what a time it was for those belarusians, as we often say, who were on the other side of the border on the other side, and for eastern belarusians. what was the policy of poland, in relation to these belarusian land plots, further may
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be the intentions of the polish or from the very beginning even before the signing of the treaty of riga during the negotiations that took place in october. uh, twenty years old. and even a little earlier it became clear that there would be a division of belarus and even then our society, uh, perceived it as a big drama and even a tragedy, uh. this division is truly heartbreaking. eh, there was a painful process, a tragic process for belarusians since the late twenties, in fact we are talking about such an ethnic dictatorship. uh, ethnopolitical dictatorship this is tough pressure on a national basis on a religious basis. it is happening more and more clearly. we can clearly see this from the negative dynamics of belarusian schools, which are practically disappearing and being squeezed out. the belarusian press goes so far as to prohibit speaking openly in the belarusian language in public; quotas are introduced for ethnic minorities in the bureaucracy in the army; in the police; they are not allowed to hold officer
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positions; higher education institutions are allowed in. e.i. if there are no belarusians at all admitted, then the jews who end up there are subjected to discrimination, consciously based on ethnic and religious principles , the orthodox church is being infringed upon. well , everyone knows the year thirty-four. summer is the creation of the infamous concentration camp in kartun birch. it was the combination of these conditions that created such a stuffy atmosphere of suppression. well, in addition, it must be said that a conscious policy of uneven economic development was pursued, and in fact the question was that western belarus was being subjected to colonial exploitation, and were pumped out from here. eh, raw materials were supplied there. e. well, you know, there is such a myth that supposedly in everyday life. they lived well there, but we have objective data , memories, and you know some individual residents there. well, maybe someone got to the master. there in the servant or somewhere else. yes, he could live well. or there really was a wealthy gentleman in belarusian style, it seems, than there were few of them; in general, the general
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impression of people coincides with this data that we have. well yes, it was in the stores relatively, abundance, but the availability of these goods was extremely low, that is, people could not afford it. eh, the majority of the population did not have access to buy stylish goods. it is necessary to imagine once again the situation in western belarus, which emphasized this situation in order to understand why it created objective conditions for the national liberation struggle, which took place in different forms. how should guerrilla warfare, an insurgency, simply a mass insurgency, still be studied and returned to? well, by the way, if you take we know this event in september of this year. there are different interpretations in the form of disputes. today, official poland still believes that this campaign of the red army. it was nothing more than the occupation of the eastern lands then, which were part of poland. we can respond to such statements, because, well, the poles can consider anything
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unconditional. for them it was painful, but, nevertheless, the soviet union did not want to enter the war, and it strained the situation and the red army began its campaign only in conditions the flight of the polish government from warsaw, no matter how the fact was established, the government left warsaw, the polish army was defeated. by that time, the soviets had entered the territory of western belarus and western ukraine. well, the most important thing is the attitude of the local population. we know that with the exception of ethnic poles and belarus there are both lithuanians and jews. they greeted the red one. and we have evidence that it was a wide public concert. everyone was welcomed into the red army as soon as they were liberated. there were so many hated, the polish regime, which is recorded in our country. well, there are several hundred, maybe more cases when i set myself within the limits. you know, i would say that the frame is a kind of belarusian triumphal arch - it is a bright sculptural symbol, an architectural symbol of any time. the heat of architecture,
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rather. eh, from this period in 1939, all the political forces. here the communists to the christian democrats welcomed the arrival of the red fair , once again speaking, understanding both the positive and negative features of the soviet system, uh, and this is exactly what we rely on when we talk about the significance of the seventeenth holiday. e september. not only as liberation, but also as a day of national unity, and it is fundamentally important for us that conditions were created under which the belarusian state was united within the fullness of its borders of this period, all ethnic lands, belarus in your opinion, reproaches or claims. from the official side, today they remain on this issue, or is this still such a historical, logical step, since this riding on us is historical claims. yes, they are trying to accuse people of skipping these resolutions. they even passed the european parliament through there to the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe with condemnation.
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uh, that is, uh, blame the soviet union on the same level as germany, which is absolutely unfounded, and blame it for its own military political miscalculations that led to the outbreak of world war ii. and this polish company in germany is trying to transfer the wine. it is preserved and will be preserved, i am convinced of this from a political point of view. official politicians say no. we have no complaints, at the same time in poland there are shires and the government supports the cress movements. that is, it is as if in the memory of a rat , documents on property rights are stored, and so on and so forth, there are, uh, cultural political organizations, but they act, we cannot help but notice them. what if they had no influence, i say again, they will be supported, including by the polish government . the second point is the pole’s card, let me remind you that initially it was introduced only for post-soviet territory. now they are extended to other countries. but why are they introducing this map? it means some kind of
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claims, that is, an attempt to use the polonium of the polish diaspora in the world in the interests of their political influence. the next point is that i am convinced that at this stage , polish political circles do not set the goal of seizing some part of the territory, they need complete control by the states. what form now is the concept that the party preaches about law and justice. this is the fourth speech of the polish-lithuanian commonwealth of creation between the seas of the balta of the black sea, the so-called union where there is hegemony in the center, there will be more and it will be surrounded by state protectorates. from estonia to moldova, and we see in the example of ukraine, starting from may last year, a whole series of agreements that actually make ukraine dependent on poland. well, in particular, the most famous are that polish citizens are given rights. it’s not just that being equal with ukrainians is an absolutely exclusive right. i think foreigners are not granted such rights, and
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such legislative laws do not apply to ukrainians norms, but it is the territory of poland. that is, this speaks of the colonist character, these are generally documents. it’s the combination of these factors that emphasizes and testifies to the presence of such geopolitical ambitions. e among polish politicians, and not only among the ruling party. in your opinion, why do we have such different eyes today? again, with our neighbors, we look at this historical memory at the historical truth. do we today have any hope of understanding reconciliation in these issues based on history in the fact that neighboring peoples are not necessary? dramatization happens so often. and in general, even i would say, this is, naturally, a process. there is no need to strive. history has its own versions of history for some kind of unification. and even this is an individual subject of study; it’s a different matter when history is politicized and used for their own interests. we see this, for example, in poland , where an institute of national memory has actually been created. this is, uh, the historical police with very strict sanctions for other interpretations,
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polish politicians pay great attention. they just pay attention to history and use it in their interests. e to broadcast your own politics in the neighboring territory. this is unacceptable for indoctrination, including one’s own narratives. uh, so naturally we take a pretty hard line against this. eh, as in historical politics? uh, so we bring the poles to the polish government, despite all the relations. so to speak, the unfriendly are now ready to return to normal dialogue, but without preliminary claims based on respect for each other’s interests. why is poland , for its part, escalating what for? poles today, in this sense, we can generally be good neighbors for each other, do not like to remember. eh, soviet times, but relations between the bssr yes, it was part of the soviet union and more were absolutely normal, we remove the whole context. warsaw moscow but the beys and the polish people's
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republic were absolutely good friends. there was a cultural exchange there. uh, she’s the most beautiful, in my opinion, what do you think the vitebsk bazaar grew out of, uh, the polish song festival, this is such an image for understanding what ’s happening. we can be such friends. a process that is normal for us would, moreover, benefit more from this, but the politicization of this issue is an attempt to use historical myths to, uh, support modern politics, which is quite subjective, existing in the brains of polish politicians. these phantoms about the past are the desire to create some kind of greater poland, plus elections are now underway and they are permanently taking place. naturally, and when problems arise, and now there are very big economic problems. there is a desire. this is due to such chauvinism using historical themes. uh, to enlist the support of a certain part of the voters unconditionally. foreign forces take advantage of this. first of all, the united states of america, of course, the americans after the second world war consciously relied on anti-soviet anti-russian
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nationalism. we see some uh, narrative elements. these policies are very similar in relation to belarus to ukraine to poland, even in the balkans they are broadcast radio free europe to the voices of america specials were created. institutes in munich in other regions among the same polish diaspora ended up in a large number of great britain in west germany in the united states of america and this, too, this factor cannot be exaggerated, but it cannot be underestimated either, but we, for our part, are pursuing a consistent line about compromises at the expense of our historical memory, our emotional interests cannot be , but we can turn over some unpleasant pages, we can too, but the day is september 17 , national unity day - this is evidence, but for a very long time they did not attach state on this holiday, despite requests from the public, so as not to offend, but the polish state. this won't happen now.
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we will consistently defend our interests, including our vision of history, but at the same time we are ready within the framework of dialogue. e on an equal basis. e be friends with our neighbors. you know, the president said that neighbors. they do not choose from god, we understand this, i would like the polish side to understand this among ordinary poles, not everyone, but we see such an understanding a lot, if in the end the real democracy, which in poland no, well, about which they talk a lot will triumph, then sooner or later politicians will come to power there who will force life to pursue such a line. alexey viktorovich september 17 is called an act of historical justice and museum exhibits can sometimes tell about this better than any words. we are now in the museum of the great patriotic war. it's here. it may be small, but nevertheless there is an exhibition dedicated to it. here, to those events, the reunification of belarus. what were these september days like?
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for those belarusians who literally found themselves on the other side of the border for two decades only when poland was left without its polish leadership, only when it became clear that the days of the polish army were numbered only when german troops had already advanced close, and were on the premises. uh, lvov brest , uh, were near grodno, only then did the soviet union make a decision on september 17, at the beginning of the famous liberation campaign of the red army, uh, the troops of the belarusian and ukrainian fronts were activated, uh, who received literally the night before this event instructions that they should come to the aid of the fraternal belarusian and ukrainian people suffering from the polish
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occupation, uh, prevent the occupation of belarusian and ukrainian lands from the germans and precisely under these slogans. liberation of their brothers, belarusians. and ukrainians. e, the red army began military operations, and e in many places. uh, the red army encountered absolutely no resistance. people came out with flowers, and people came out with bread and salt to meet the troops of the red army, as liberators. this was very typical for the majority of belarusian landowners. yes, you can see how the council is moving here. the search is just advancing into this territory, but with all this, it should be noted that even the polish state itself and those remnants of the polish political military elite, they did not perceive the arrival of the soviet army as
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some kind of threat to the occupation, the same thing, by the way speaking, neither great britain nor france, which , defending poland, declared war on germany , took absolutely no diplomatic action to accuse violation of any agreements by the soviet union, this once again confirms that from the point of view of international law. uh, soviet troops came to the aid of the belarusian ukrainian people, left without top leadership, divided into parts thanks to the decisions of the riga peace of 1921, and no one in the world, then and for many years. after that i didn’t perceive it. it's like an act of aggression. ah, in the soviet union and on the lands that returned to the fold of their east slavic civilization on the belarusian, especially western lands belarus hmm most of the population perceived this precisely as an act of justice. therefore, you can see how
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the residents of western belarus peacefully and with smiles talk with the red army soldiers. these are truly historical facts. and of course. uh, when we consider any historical event, it always has different facets, different sides, like uh, for anyone, these are not even two sides of the same coin, and there is also an edge, but in fact, today we must stand on the positions of our people of our state for belarusians who, by will riga peace treaty based on the results. the results of the bloodiest soviet-polish war were worse. the belarusians found themselves abandoned by the political and military trumpets of the civil war and revolution. yes, they were torn apart due to political circumstances. they became part of a group that was alien to them in terms of ethnicity and religion. and in general,
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in its entirety, statehood on the one hand. uh, it was, of course, a tragic moment, because the second world war began, which would later bring huge multimillion-dollar casualties of destruction, which will distort the fates of millions of people, but on the other hand. it was a very bright moment for belarusians, because they were finally able to unite within one state. they were finally able to speak their native language comfortably. they could easily profess the religion that was given by their ancestor and the ancestor of their ancestors and , uh, a significant part of society took the day of september 17 extremely positively, so, by the way, speaking, here, uh, the place names in the cities that appeared then streets , squares, september 17 were largely they were widespread in western belarus and
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there was no more memory of this than, for example, in the east there were vitebsk vitebsk mogilev gomel e.g. that moment, well, september 17th. it was one of the holidays, then several years after the annexation, but the local population perceived it. it’s simple, when for the residents of western belarus it really was a real holiday, a real red day of the calendar, and it’s very good that we are today after many years, in general, but we have returned to this historical truth. and for us today is september 17th, which will be for many years. he just kept quiet afterwards. and today it becomes a real day, and this is a very significant date , the day of this nationwide belarusian unity, the day of truly returning to the family. yes, it is always the greatest joy to unite with your family. this
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is the greatest happiness for a person when you can return to your father’s house, when you can sit with your family there by the fireplace at the festive table. yes, just hug, in addition to these historical facts, what is on in your opinion, today it is necessary and important to speak. in the current realities, all belarusians from young to old. well, when we today, from the perspective of the modern day, look at belarus at what place it occupies in the world, we see that, firstly, we managed to build a real state with true sovereignty. belarus managed to survive without creating any new fault lines within itself, a new division line, we do not have xenophobia. we have no hatred towards other people. we don't have any ethnic conflicts. we have no conflicts on religious basis, although the two large
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denominations are orthodoxy and catholicism. and a number of small ones exist in our country and everyone is given the opportunity , uh, to profess their religion, to pray to whatever god you want, our current legislation, which in many ways appeals to the legislation back in the ussr before the war period. and in languages, the fact that the belarusian russian language has equal rights is that the state today is pursuing a very strict policy to prevent any disputes. on this basis, two languages have equal rights. nobody cannot be forced to speak only one language. yes, there should be none. discrimination in the west they now use such a concept as positive discrimination, where they create some more favorable conditions for some peoples. there are nations of languages of religions.
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and it is these traditions of unity, the absence of conflicts, that belarus must carry not only through the 21st century, but also the next twenty-second, this is the very, main heritage that we are using today, using the date of september 17, as a certain reason. yes, this is exactly the heritage we need keep it very carefully, because in the world we see that all politics today is built on inciting endless conflicts and our happiness is that we were able to maintain peace in our country and we must pass it on to our later. alexey viktorovich, in your opinion, the unity of the nation is today an inoculation of internal shocks, after all , there have been attempts to divide the people and there will probably be more, but what does this entail today? this is the current reality, when we talk about the unity of the nation. we have so many examples before our eyes.
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eh, when unity did not help and they managed to divide the nation, of course, the first thing that comes to mind is ukraine, where all possible fault lines were used and bore fruit. unfortunately, they were able to divide the people there along linguistic, territorial, national and religious lines. eh, they found a lot of opportunities there for people within the country to start hating each other. today the technology, in fact , the work with mass consciousness and society is so masterly that even the strongest monolithically. society can be divided if you find even a small crack, so as far as belarus is concerned, it is very important that in addition to this social unity, we understand and, uh, realize the importance of existence. actually, the sovereign power of its own state system. the state system, the political elite
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must be interested in the existence of this country and must be interested in ensuring that this country exists in the best conditions. by the way, this is an important point that separates the republic belarus a presents itself from a much better point of view than the political regimes around us, because here we, unfortunately, see either some alien leaders, there are americans in the positions of presidents of lithuania and citizens of the other side, or uh, when we see how the conditional west they are fighting with the so-called east in ukraine. and there is a struggle between our eastern or western president, who will lead the country and will continue to pull the blanket over himself. now, when in our country we have, firstly, the strong leadership of a strong political leader, who at the same time they realize the need to preserve civil and military peace in our country
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and do their best. that’s when civil society will support the political power of the public administration system. that’s it, then we can say that this is an important moment in our modern component, but in the existence of belarusians and the belarusian state. well, i want tomorrow to sound sincerely happy holiday. but what do you want on this day and what is it like for you today in the current realities in this connections? here is the same question number one. i want to wake up on this day and scroll through the news to see that nothing happened. nothing bad happened. return to this news only in the evening and see that the news feed is full of smiling people, celebrating people, that everyone is sending smiles and congratulations to each other and no other news. on this day, just not. this is probably my greatest desire. for me
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, national unity day is historical justice then in 1939 now that we returned this holiday and gave it to him position, status and, of course, this is generally a symbol of a return to our historical roots and the fact that the future of belarus will be built on this very powerful, solid, and historical foundation of our state. on july 11 of this year, changes to the amendment to the law
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of the civil republic of belarus came into force, which contains a number of innovations related to the adjustment of citizenship legislation , first of all, of course, persons who fly to citizenship of the republic of belarus will now take an oath, a solemn atmosphere the text of the oath was approved by the president of the republic of belarus and also determined a separate category of persons who will be condemned from taking the oath. in addition , changes and additions were made to the relevant amendments that relate to aspects of the acquisition of the civil republic of belarus by persons who, under certain circumstances, for example, stayed for 90 days outside the country within the country. in fact , there are so-called mandatory center areas for a certain category of persons who want to become citizens of belarus then that is, they must live on the territory of belarus for 5 years and in fact, if, according to the previous version of the law, if they stayed outside the country for 90 days, they actually violated the so-called center for acquiring citizenship. now he is actually a legislator. for this category of persons and if, due to certain circumstances, let’s say, you know that there were certain pandemic restrictions, these persons could not do their own thing.
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