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he just wants to convey his thought, his philosophical idea to people and show it. well, i support him in this. potatoes, our russian potatoes, and the flavors that someone brought to us, maybe they remembered something, that they focused attention on something, and individual news was already given here about our potatoes. and whoever says that with us, bulba is meat, bulba is meat. but no, you need to come and try. we can make something similar to peperonium from our danik , that is, we imagine, and the street in the morning, yes, and in front of you the cook does something similar, something about this semeya classic sauce, right? and lots and lots of cheese. look, someone is making
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burgers, someone is making hot dogs. yes, and then the belarusians fly in like oops to try. such a belarusian format is actually a lot of space for imagination, like a local product, how delicious, which is shown in our country by some other people. there now, with these whistlers, the italians, the french, he understands what he can do with everyone, let’s say , open, so it’s not necessary just in one fight, yes, let’s do it, let’s see. there were, say, 5 percent of people, this is such an accomplished, powerful type who
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writes, they said, well, already this difference they will tell me to come. i want potato pancakes. naturally, we give them a new value. and no matter how they criticize him. even all five percent are always clean for some reason, strelka themselves, without knowing it, the visitors of the gastrobar become participants in the experiment of the young chef, and he loves to surprise, if you put green fish on top of viennese potato pancakes, poached egg and season everything, this is the author's citrus sour cream, it turns out perfect hearty breakfast. and these are and with a simple, row-by-line method below, you can break all these very svetikas, what i’m doing at the moment. i want to feel it and understand what i'm doing. well, i'm not just a cook who cooks potatoes. i want to prove it to myself, so that my son will grow up and
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look at me and say that this is my father. how he sat there was something fundamental and significant right there, i want to be more than just a cook. and the fact that the girl is really figuratively significant and what she will bring. well , why tell the great great at least in in our city in our country, that i just want to do cooking. and the fact that this something will be is ours and it has the right to be, because it is ours.
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in these september days, we remember our history and turn the page of our textbooks. and we also talk with our children about the fact that since it was not always the case now, that just a hundred years ago belarus was not within its current borders, that our western land and brest and the great pinsk baranovichi should have become a bridge for polish expansion. further east on 17 september thirty-nine changed the course of history, the day of the reunification of belarus , its eastern and western parts on september 17 , thirty-nine of the last century, became a symbol of our national unity that is not subject to time. but this experience tells
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us that it is no less important to be together in peacetime, to work for the good of our people and fatherland, and to live in such a way as to never repeat the mistakes of the past. to be strong in the face of new threats and challenges of the time, to preserve our peaceful , amazing, beautiful belarus for children and grandchildren. for several years now, belarusians have been paying tribute to this memorable date, when both the country and the nation again became united. the day of national unity reminds us of the triumph of historical justice, which, however , is an eyesore and an eyesore for some even today. how to preserve the solidity of the nation, despite geopolitical storms, not to forget the past and preserve the present of national unity every day - this is our main question. question number one.
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today we are in a special place, the temple of the book of the national library. she keeps memory, including the events of the last century, when belarus was, well, for almost 20 years, actually divided in two, what a time it was for those belarusians, as we often say, who were on the other side of the border on that shore, yes, and for eastern belarusians. what was the policy more, and in relation to these belarusian lands, the further intentions of the polish may be, or from the very beginning even before the signing of the riga treaty during the negotiations that took place in october. uh, twenty years old. and it even happened a little earlier it is clear that there will be a division of belarus and even then our society perceived it as a big drama and even a tragedy, uh, here. this division is truly heartbreaking. uh, it was a painful process, a tragic process for belarusians since the late twenties, in fact
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, we are talking about such an ethnic dictatorship , an ethnopolitical dictatorship. this is severe pressure on a national and religious basis. it is happening more and more clearly. we see this clearly from the negative dynamics of belarusian schools, which are practically disappearing being squeezed out the belarusian press goes so far as to prohibit speaking the belarusian language openly in public space; quotas are introduced for ethnic minorities in the bureaucracy in the army; in the police they are not allowed to hold officer positions; they are not allowed into higher education institutions. e, i. if belarusians were not allowed in at all, then the jews who get there are subjected to discrimination, conscious of the ethnic and religious principle , the orthodox church is being infringed upon. well, in 1934, everyone knows summer is a creature the infamous concentration camp in kartun birch. here's an owl. all of these conditions have created such a stuffy atmosphere of suppression. well, in addition, it must be said that a conscious policy
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of uneven economic development was pursued, and de facto it was about the fact that western belarus was being subjected to colonial exploitation, and from here they were siphoned off. eh, raw materials were supplied there. e. well, you know, there is such a myth that supposedly in everyday life . they lived well there, but we have objective data, memories and some you know some of the residents there. well, maybe someone got to the master. there as servants or somewhere else. yes, he could live well. or maybe there really were wealthy gospodarkas in the belarusian style, it seems that there were few of them; overall, the general impression of people coincides with the data that we have. well, yes, there was a relative abundance in the stores, but the availability of these goods was extremely low, that is, people could afford, uh, buy this in the body, but the majority of the population did not have access. you need to imagine. let me emphasize this situation once again situation in western belarus to understand why it created objective conditions for the national liberation
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struggle, which took place in different forms, such as a guerilla war of an insurgent simply a mass insurgency. we must still study and return to this. well, by the way, if we take the events since september 1939, we know that there are still different interpretations. official poland still believes today that this campaign was the red army. it was nothing more than to occupy the eastern lands then, who were in the squad, we can respond to such statements more, because, well, the poles can consider anything unconditional. for them it was painful, but, nevertheless, the soviet union did not want to enter the war, he strained the situation and the red army began its campaign only in the conditions of the flight of the polish government from warsaw , no matter how the fact was established, the government left warsaw, the polish army was by that time. the soviet sucker lost to the territory of western belarus and western ukraine. well, the most important thing is attitude of the local population.
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we know that with the exception of the ethnic poles and belarusians and lithuanians and jews, they welcomed the reds and we have evidence that it was a broad popular consensus, the red army was greeted as a liberator, but so was hated. the polish regime, which we have recorded. well, here are several hundred, maybe more, cases when i was set within the framework. you know, i would say that the frame is such a belarusian arc de triomphe - it is a bright sculptural symbol, an architectural symbol of everything whatever. even more architecturally. eh, from this period in 1939, all the political forces. here the communists to the christian democrats welcomed the arrival of the red church perfectly, once again, understanding both the positive and negative features of the soviet system, uh, and this is what we rely on when we talk about the meaning of these holidays on the seventeenth of september not only as liberation, but also as a day of national unity, and it is fundamentally important for us that
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conditions have been created under which the belarusian state has united in its entirety its borders of this period are all ethnic lands, belarus in your opinion. reproaches or complaints? and social assistance in this matter or is it still, if such a historically logical step is, uh, historically claims. yes, they are trying to unite and pass these resolutions. they even passed the european parliament through there , the parliamentary council of europe, with condemnation. uh, that is, to blame the soviet union, equal to that of germany, which is absolutely unfounded and blame it for its own military political miscalculations, which led to the outbreak of world war ii. and this polish company. this is an attempt to transfer the wine. it is preserved and will be preserved, i am convinced of this from a political point of view. official policy states no. we have no complaints, at the same time in poland there are shires
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and the government supports the cress movements. that is, it is as if documents on property rights are stored in the memory of rats , and so on and so forth. uh, cultural political organizations. well, they act, we can’t help but notice them. whatever they are influence. i say again, they are supported in this. the second point was made by the polish government - this is the pole's card, let me remind you that initially it was introduced only for post-soviet territory. now they have already extended it to other countries. but why are they introducing this card? this means some kind of claims, that is, an attempt to use the polonium of the polish diaspora in the world in the interests of their political influence. the next point, i am convinced that at this stage , polish political circles, well, do not set the goal of seizing some part of the territory, they he needs full control by the state. what form now is the concept that the party preaches about law and justice.
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this is the fourth polish-lithuanian commonwealth, the creation between the seas of the baltic black sea so-called union where in the center of hegemony, there will be more and it will be surrounded by state protectors. from estonia to moldova, and we see in the example of ukraine, starting from may last year, a whole series of agreements that actually make ukraine dependent on poland. well, in particular, the most famous are that polish citizens are given rights. it’s not just equal rights with ukrainians that are the absolutely exclusive right of any foreigner. such rights are not granted, and such legislative norms do not apply to ukrainians on the territory of poland. that is, this speaks of the colonialist nature of these documents in general. it’s the combination of these factors that emphasizes and testifies to the presence of such geopolitical ambitions. e among polish politicians, and not only among the ruling party. why are we so different today eyes? again, with our neighbors, we look at this historical memory at
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the historical truth. do we today have any hope of understanding reconciliation in these issues based on history in the fact that neighboring peoples do not need to be dramatized, this happens so often. and in general, even i would say, this is, naturally, a process. there is no need to strive. in history, towards some kind of unification, there are completely different versions of history. and even this is an individual subject of study; it’s a different matter when history is politicized, used in one’s own interests. we see this, for example, in poland, where uh, created institute of national memory in fact. this is, uh, the historical police with very strict sanctions for other interpretations, polish politicians pay great attention. they simply use history for their own interests , and to broadcast their own politics in the neighboring territory. this is unacceptable for indoctrination, including one’s own narratives. uh, so naturally we take a pretty hard line against this. uh, as in historical politics, we bring the poles to the polish government, despite all the relationships.
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so to speak, the unfriendly are now ready to return to normal dialogue, but without preliminary claims based on respect for each other’s interests. and why do we need more from our side, and it intensifies what for the poles today in this sense, we can generally be good neighbors for each other, they like to remember. eh, soviet times, but relations between the bssr yes, it was part of the soviet union and poland were absolutely normal. we remove all context. warsaw, moscow, but the beys and the polish people's republic were absolutely good friends. there was a cultural exchange there. uh, she’s the most beautiful, in my opinion, what do you mean, the vitebsk bazaar grew out of, uh, the festival of polish songs, this is such an image already for understanding what was happening, we can be such friends. a process that is normal for us would, moreover, benefit more from this, but the politicization of this issue is an attempt to use historical myths to, uh, support modern politics, which is quite subjective,
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existing in the brains of polish politicians. these phantoms about the past, the desire to create some kind of greater poland, plus elections now they go and they permanently pass. naturally, and when problems arise, and now there are very big economic problems. there is a desire. this is due to such chauvinism using historical themes. uh, to gain the support of a certain part of the voters unconditionally. foreign forces take advantage of this. first of all, the united states of america, of course, the americans after the second world war consciously relied on anti-soviet anti-russian nationalism. and we see some elements of narrative. these policies are very similar in in relation to belarus to ukraine to poland, even in the balkans they are broadcast radio free europe to the voices of america specials were created. institutes in munich in other regions among the polish diaspora are the same ones that ended up in large numbers in great britain in west germany in the united states of america. and this, too, is a factor that
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cannot be exaggerated, but it cannot be underestimated either. for our part, we are pursuing a consistent line of compromises at the expense of our historical memory, our emotional there can be no interests, but we can come to an agreement, we can turn some unpleasant pages, we can too, but the day of september 17 , national unity day - this is evidence, but for a very long time , the state did not give this holiday, despite requests from the public, so as not to offend, and the polish state. this won't happen now. we will consistently defend our interests, including our vision of history, but this year within the framework of dialogue. uh, on an equal basis, uh, to be friends with our neighbors, our president said that neighbors. not they choose from god, we understand this, we would like the polish side to understand this, not everyone among ordinary poles, but we see a lot of such understanding, if in the end there is real democracy, which in poland
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no, well, about which we are very they say a lot will prevail, then sooner or later, politicians will come to power who will pursue such a line. life will force it. they call it an act of historical justice and museum exhibits can sometimes tell about this better than any words. we are now in the museum of the great patriotic war. here there is. it may be small, but nevertheless there is an exhibition dedicated to it. here, to those events, the reunification of belarus. what were these september days like for those belarusians who literally found themselves on the other side of the border for two decades only when poland was left without its polish leadership , only when it became clear that the days of the polish army counted only when the german troops had already advanced closely and were on the territory. uh, lvov brest uh,
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were near grodno only then soviet the union of the seventeenth of september made a decision at the beginning of the famous liberation campaign of the red army, the troops of the belarusian and ukrainian fronts were activated , who received literally the night before this event instructions that they should come to the aid of the fraternal belarusian and ukrainian people suffering from polish occupation. eh, to prevent the occupation of belarusian and ukrainian lands from the germans and precisely under these slogans. liberation of our brothers, belarusians. and ukrainians. uh, the red army began military operations, and e in many places. uh, the red army met absolutely no resistance. people came out with flowers, and people came out with
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bread and salt, they greeted the red army troops as liberators, this was very typical for the majority of belarusian landowners. yes , you can see how the council is moving here. the sands are just advancing into this territory, but with all this, it should be noted that even the polish state itself and those remnants of the polish political military elite, they did not perceive the arrival of the soviet army as some kind of threat occupation is the same, by the way, neither great britain nor france, which, defending poland, declared war on germany , took absolutely no diplomatic actions to accuse the soviet union of violating any agreements . this once again confirms that from the point of view of international law. uh, soviet troops came to the aid
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of the belarusian ukrainian people, left without top leadership , divided into parts thanks to the decisions of the riga peace of 1921, and no one in the world, then and for many years. after that no perceived. it's like an act of aggression. ah, in the soviet union and in the lands that returned to the fold of their east slavic civilization on the belarusian, especially the lands of western belarus hmm most of the population perceived this precisely as an act of justice, therefore, you can see how the residents of western belarus peacefully and with smiling and talking with the red army soldiers. these are truly historical facts. and of course. uh, when we consider any historical event, it always has different facets , different sides, like uh, for anyone it’s not even two sides of the same coin, and here there is also an edge, but in fact, today we must
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stand in the positions of our people of our state for the belarusians, who, according to the will of the riga peace treaty, are based on the results. the results of the bloodiest soviet-polish war were worse. the belarusians found themselves abandoned by the political and military trumpets of the civil war and revolution. yes, they were torn apart due to political circumstances. they became part of a group that was alien to them in terms of ethnicity and religion. and in general, in its entirety, statehood with one sides. eh, it was, of course, a tragic moment, because the second world war began, which would later bring a huge multi-million dollar destruction, which would distort the fates of millions of people, but on the other hand. it was a very bright moment for belarusians, because they were finally able to unite within one
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state. they were finally able to speak their native language comfortably. they could easily profess the religion that was given by their ancestor and the ancestor of their ancestors and uh, a significant part of society perceived the day of september 17 extremely positively, therefore, by the way, speaking, here, uh , the toponyms that appeared later in cities, the names of streets and squares, on september 17 were more common in western belarus and it was not stored there even more memory than, for example, in the east there are vitebsk vitebsk mogilev gomel e, v. that moment, well, september 17th. it was one of the holidays, then several years after the annexation, but uh, the local population perceived it. it's easy when she's here it was for the residents of western belarus that this was truly a real holiday,
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a real red day of the calendar, and it is very good that today, after many years, in general, we have returned to this historical truth. and for us today is september 17th, which will be for many years. he just kept quiet afterwards. and today it becomes a real day, and this is a very significant date , the day of this nationwide belarusian unity, the day of truly returning to the family. yes, it is always the greatest joy to unite with your family. it is for a person's greatest happiness is when you can return to your father's house, when you can sit with your family there by the fireplace at the festive table. yes, just hug, in addition to these historical facts, what in your opinion is necessary and important to talk about today. in the current realities, all belarusians from young to old. well, when we today, from the perspective of the modern day, look at belarus
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and what place it occupies in the world, we see that, firstly, we managed to build a real state with true sovereignty. belarus managed to survive not having created some new fault lines or non-new divisions within ourselves, we do not have xenophobia. we have no hatred towards other people. we don't have any ethnic conflicts. we have no conflicts on religious grounds, although there are two large denominations, orthodoxy and catholicism. and a number of small ones exist in our country and everyone is given the opportunity, uh , to profess their religion, to pray, there and to god, which you want, our current legislation, which in many ways appeals uh to the legislation back in the ussr before war period. and in languages, the fact that the belarusian russian language has equal rights is that
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the state today is pursuing a very strict policy to prevent any disputes. on this basis, two languages ​​have equal rights. no one can be forced to speak only one language. yes, none should. for discrimination in the west , they now use such a concept as positive discrimination, there to create some more favorable conditions for some peoples, there nations and languages ​​of religions. and these are the traditions of unity the absence of conflicts is precisely what belarus must carry through not only the 21st century, but also the next twenty-second, this is the very, main heritage that we are using today , using the date of september 17, as a certain reason. yes, it is precisely this heritage that we must preserve very carefully, because in the world we see, and all politics today is built on
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inciting endless conflicts and our happiness is that we were able to maintain peace in our country and we must pass it on to our people later. alexey viktorovich, in your opinion, the unity of the nation is a vaccination today turmoil, internal turmoil, after all , there have been attempts to divide the people and there will probably still be, but what does this entail today? this is the current reality, when we talk about a single nation. we have so many examples before our eyes. eh, when unity did not help and they managed to divide the nation, of course , ukraine comes first to us, where all possible fault lines were used and bore fruit. unfortunately, they were able to divide the people there along linguistic, territorial, national and religious lines. eh, we found a lot there opportunities for people within
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a country to begin to hate each other. today technology actually works with mass consciousness and society so masterfully that even the strongest is monolithic. a community can be divided if you find even a small crack, so as far as belarus is concerned , it is very important that in addition to this social unity, we understand and realize the importance of the existence, our own sovereign power of our own state system. the state system, the political elite must be is interested in the existence of this country and should be interested in ensuring that this country exists in the best conditions. by the way, this is an important point that separates the republic of belarus from a much better point of view than the political regimes around us, because here we, unfortunately, see some alien leaders. it’s there
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americans in the uh, positions of presidents of lithuania and citizens of another country or uh, when we see how the so-called west is fighting in the so-called east in ukraine and there our fight is going on an eastern or western president will lead the country and will continue to pull the blanket over themselves. now, when in our country we have, firstly, the strong leadership of a strong political leader, who at the same time is aware of the need to preserve civil and military peace in our country and is doing their best. that’s when civil society will support the political power of the public administration system. that's it, then we can say that this is an important moment in our modern component, uh, the existence of belarusians and belarusian state. well, i want tomorrow to sound sincerely happy holiday. but what do you want on this day? and what is it like for
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you today in the current realities in this regard? here is the same question number one. i want to wake up on this day and scroll through the news to see that nothing happened. nothing bad happened. return to this news only in the evening and see that the news feed is full of smiling people, celebrating people, that everyone is sending smiles and congratulations to each other and no other news. in this day just doesn't exist. this is probably my greatest desire. for me, national unity day is historical justice then in 1939 now that we returned this holiday, gave it official status and, of course, it is generally a symbol of a return to our historical roots and the fact that the future will be built on this very powerful, durable , but the historical foundation of our state.
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hi all. my name is misrob davtyan i i came from armenia to the republic of belarus, i live and work now in minsk

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