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i would like to look at this world differently. and every day discovering something new is her tactic. 'cause we're cutting it down with love. with love to belarus hello, are you watching the program, tell me, don’t be silent in the studio victoria popova and tatyana shcherbina and visiting. today we have the director of the institute of housing and communal services of the national academy of sciences, vadimkikov. good afternoon. vadim olekovich. hello vadim olegovich, the institute that you head

is a fairly young institution; this year it turned only 5 years old. what has already been done during this time, how the institute has helped. e housing and communal services. was it possible we managed to work together as a communal worker and a scientist, so to speak, as a theorist and practitioners , we managed to do something and uh, if we talk about uh interaction, contact with the professional environment with uh housing and communal services. this also works. well, i want to give some evidence of this, firstly, uh, they know us and we often have eh uh. and the heads of housing maintenance services of water utilities. secondly, the ministry feels us and thirdly. we are using this professional environment. in the industry, it was possible for the first time to form a scientific program uh, which is aimed at solving such

major uh, national economic problems that exist, if housing and communal services is a program that has already been approved, uh, councils by the minister, and it is in effect. well, as for our such a modest anniversary. we currently have a small team. yes, but i’m determined to work and , of course, we will grow, and, of course, we will continue to interact with the housing and communal services sector and work for this industry, recognized within the national academy of sciences as a good idea of ​​the head of state. he just said that it's time. yes, the academy of sciences supports, uh, the housing and communal services industry and we today. the only scientific organization is a research organization, therefore our task is to form a scientific expert environment. uh, housing and communal services. it, like other industries, requires innovative

modernization, not just technological modernization of basic processes. replacement of equipment, namely innovative modernization, which can provide. e, good quality transition to a new level of production and service provision. well then are you developing some? uh, new concepts approaches. do you give any advice or recommendations? eh, here’s something we can boast about: all taken together , the concepts and strategies and approaches we are developing together with the ministry of housing and communal services. by the way, the strategy, scientific innovative development of the housing and communal services industry for 5 years according to uh, and other uh, on behalf of the government, there are documents and the preparation of some national program documents relating to the interests of the industry. well, uh, as for our developments. they are technological plan are those that we make together with industrial partners, and

there are such. i hope to talk about this today, uh, and those that we are doing in the interests of, uh, individual enterprises in the industry. but if we say that in these studies there is a republican level and an industry level. yes, for example, there for the water utility or for the regional housing and communal services we are doing some developments and recommendations for justifying the technique of economic calculations, then anyway this is aimed at working out some mechanisms for other enterprises. that is it’s the same for well, you can say the republic , that’s why there is a republican level in state programs and industry. they still go for the interests of the enterprises and the industry as a whole. yes, i just want specific examples from you. vadim olegovich recently a pipe burst in chelyuskintsev park, four districts were de-energized for some time, and then

they received rusty water and it is unknown. e , whether it is suitable for five or not, as science can help here, the first thing i want to say is e in this situation e we immediately think about, apparently, a problem for ourselves. uh, that's a problem. uh, increasing the speed of response and, on the one hand, to some failures in some emergency situations. yes. and this is really a set of measures, and it also requires an application. scientific research, on the other hand, is increasing the reliability of the corresponding pipeline systems and the work that is carried out for, installation, and so on. therefore, here are only two points, but they certainly apply to both heat and water

systems. and today these issues are on the agenda. here you put these questions, how does the housing and communal services institute react, do people react locally? well, you said, change these pipes. as soon as the practitioners respond to your requests or recommendations, we rather raise problems with the task. and we are trying to catch all the problems and tasks that exist locally in the economy so that they can somehow be classified and put into concrete terms. problems that we are able to solve through scientific research and produce results that, in turn, will help to improve the mechanisms and operating procedures. maybe and some devices themselves, let’s return to the question of the results. eh, for today. we develop not only

recommendations. although this is also important and they order it for us. these are specific practical recommendations for improving processes, but uh, we are developing technologies. in some cases, we develop technical means, uh, etc. uh, even economic mechanisms that allow, uh, to increase the efficiency of an enterprise related to business processes. well, this is the structure of the institute. i'll say a little also the technological direction and the information one. line in terms of digitalization and economics, because this is certainly a very important aspect. it took place in moscow a couple of years ago, and our it specialists took part there, and the tasks were from their russian housing and communal services to make an application that could quickly respond to garbage distribution. these are all the machines that throw away garbage, yes, that is

, here you and the it specialists are exactly on the same path, it seems to me that if we say, yes, the future is already a sin, that is, whether you cooperate with them. that is, are you aware of these developments? i’m interested in, well, we are fellow it specialists along the way, and we are also partly it specialists ourselves. it permeates all processes of housing and communal services in the same way as any industry now and by and large . we are talking about electronic housing and communal services and today there are already serious foundations for this to come true, so we are collaborating with a number of companies and government and residents of the high-tech park in order to digitize some processes in order to exclude the influence of unskilled labor in important processes. uh, and in order to increase efficiency

and reduce costs, well, regarding costs, especially during the period. eh, let’s say so before the heating season. uh, it is known that heat supply is, well, the most expensive utility service. uh, tariffs. um, they go up twice a year. it may be a small amount, but still. what are scientists doing, what are they proposing to reduce the cost of these heat supply services to our residential buildings. uh, it occupies a very large share in the energy supply as a whole. well, if we take three numbers and other utility resources, then heat supply, of course, is the most uh, large, capacious sector. and therefore the issue of losses is a question of ineffective structures and insulation. no, it is very important that there is a pipe that carries heat to the final consumer and some of the heat is lost

hmm during delivery, roughly speaking, that is , all these heat central systems, they are, uh, it’s no secret that they still exist by and large. you and i, as uh, consumers, as uh, residents. we, uh, want to understand how to uh reduce the cost. eh, this is the cost of thermal energy and so that it does not increase. or maybe e decreased, yes, and this is possible, so you correctly said that the important task of reducing losses in pipelines has been done a lot. she is already by now today ah, well, let’s say, over the past 10 years. uh, here are the industries. uh, pipeline losses. the cost of providing heat supply was reduced there from 18 to nine percent, twice that turns out twice practically. and this is a very large amount of money. and the work continues.

uh, we need to talk about the fact that it’s not everywhere. eh, centralized heating will save us. if there is an alternative. this, of course, of course, if we talk about the city of minsk , today we have centralized heat supply , which is a good solution, because there is t-4, which generates electrical energy. and it has, uh, thermal energy, which can be , well, not donated, but simply given to the residents of the megalopolis, and this is a normal, good solution, but uh, minsk is not the whole of belarus, where the design is going on, then there may be a choice in favor of decentralized heating systems of hybrid systems, when ah, there is the possibility of connecting to central heating and to local types well, heating, uh, boiler equipment and renewable

energy sources, and at the same time, informationally, the control system will select the most efficient heat supply source at the moment, because , it will also take into account tariffs depending from the time of the day of the week, well, please , and other weather conditions will develop the optimal solution for a specific one. it was profitable for the owner of the house or the residential area, so today, if we talk about this provision. here is the warmth of the warmth of housing. eh, of course, there is a need for elaboration at the design stage and before the design stage. this is precisely the place of science and scientific research. recommendations based on these studies in order to design

so that, uh, the price is uh, for utilities resources are good. well, uh, everyone had a good time, but it’s interesting that there is a choice. what can you do and how can you choose a local one? uh, test, and general centralized. as you call it, the design of various objects depends on the technical specifications. this is an object and we need to know what we want from this particular object. well , if in general we are talking about approaches to design today, uh, including communications, yes, then in this context it is interesting to have renewable energy sources, heat pumps. uh, solar so-called gel water heaters are photovoltaic converters. that is, this is no longer exotic , it will be uh. of course they are already working. uh, they already work on our sunny days, somehow in

europe they swear at these uh, where they have more daylight hours. in spain, i often saw people refuse and again return to local or centralized parts and touched on a very interesting topic. i want to say, referring to the results of specific scientific research, that in our country there are really few completely sunny days, but between april and september. we can provide 30 to 80 percent of our hot water supply through solar heating. these are reliable figures. even the index is zero. we are not a hindrance. yeah, uh, you mean the temperature? well, from april to september. uh, there are no such temperatures anymore, and uh, solar collectors are a special device, and they are capable of

receiving direct scattered radiation. e, solar radiation and convert it into thermal energy in bottom or double-circuit systems. that is, this is a repetition of exotic there are already a number of companies operating in our republic. eh, well, these systems are already supplied on a good industrial basis. well, we also know that your scientists have been working on the concept of a smart home, but you prefer to call it the home of the future. and what should we imagine with ourselves? this is the home of the future. and at this stage now, which of these developments can we implement? but we also use the general name smart home, but really. uh, i prefer the name of the home of the future. and we, uh, to somehow characterize the quantity on a. here we propose three criteria. the first is e.

energy efficiency, the second is environmental friendliness and the third is comfort for humans. therefore, if the housing designed and built satisfies these requirements, then there is a place for using some innovations, some fashionable things. uh, i mean, there's uh, smart stuff there. i mean, and everything that can be called smart, of course, well, any of them will work on some criterion in general. yes, you say that we will design, there is an opportunity to design, that is, but old housing stock. ours is 90% not energy efficient. that is, in the old housing stock, we will not be able to create a smart home in a home before the industry and science work today. and we, in terms of methodology for energy-efficient buildings, will start with this, yes,

uh, in relation to both existing and newly constructed ones. uh, we have this methodology for a zero-energy house. this is a general global trend. and we must move towards it. this does not mean that today we can achieve zero energy consumption. no, what we mean is that use. uh, in addition to traditional sources of electricity, gas, uh, and uh, heat, which comes from uh, the central one, along with these renewable energy sources, which can uh, with good thermal insulation of rational use , reach zero balance, so to speak the amount of use of traditional and non-traditional energy sources. here. and there is a zero energy house methodology.

we need to move towards it. well, the existing housing stock and the new one must move closer to the concept of a zero-energy house, so in order to there is no technical problem to use renewable sources in er, operated buildings. i often use the word design, but this is very important because you know that any changes through the technical data sheet. uh, and this also makes a lot of sense, so uh and design and , say, redevelopment and design before equipping with some kind of instrument systems. eh, that's it. this is possible, that is, a major overhaul. now it will not only change the entrance balconies, but also install renewable energy sources, but over time let's say we would like it to be the way you strive for it. yes, but we still have water meter readings. uh,

we can’t transfer it automatically, that is, we still enter readings, every month we can’t do anything, for now, well, technically, there’s no way to come up with this. already obstacles. today, such systems have already been implemented in industrial production and companies that produce conventional mechanical meters, but are able to equip them with systems that will transmit data, uh, without our participation, there are also new developments that, uh, are no longer will be needed to equip the existing ones, but this presupposes a program of transition to uh to uh to this for all of us, since 20 years ago. we began to switch to mechanical ones. by the way, i’ll repeat the technical ones. no problem , the electric meters are new, uh, i installed them recently. and they are already transmitting information not to forget about the mentality of our citizens, who periodically greet new items with hostility and do not

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but today the supply situation is difficult. but where will they turn? what kind of service do you need to wait for, and we are already even starting to do this? get used to this at the institute of housing and communal services. how do you solve this issue of import substitution? well, i already noted that, uh, we cannot, and in our research, uh, in our activities , replace uh hmm and other organizations, the research institute of thermal mass exchange, the institute of physics, and the general production department of optics, optoelectronics. now the chemical institute is closer to the smart home. this is very serious, world-class. uh institutes of the national academy of sciences of belarus and even spend money to create uh basis for such research.

this is wrong in the conditions of hmm any country, including ours, so our task is to clearly understand the national economic problems of the housing and communal services industry and form, with the help of specialists from the ministry of housing and communal services and other specialists in the industry, to formulate scientific research topics so that we with the help of science, we could unravel some complex bottleneck problems that are holding back the transition of sub-industries and the entire industry to a new level. yes, this is the role of science. that is why we carry out some research together with the organization of the academy of sciences, and what kind of research it is, we simply transfer these tasks to them, clearly formulating what the requirements for our industry are from the industry. therefore, i think

that in relation to the smart home, look there there is. eh, everyone somehow understands the software, the software and hardware complex that is supposed to control it, it’s all there too, but there are sensors and these are not microsensors. these are today the eyes, ears and voice of this smart home, because they warn. they give hints. they even prevent leaks absolutely right. but in conditions when it is necessary to replace them with imports. um, of course, it's important to unite. uh, effort. that's all, and here's a good example: a whole microelectronics program is being planned. and this is with. well, one might say, connected with the instructions of the head of state and the national academy of sciences

, today is forming such a program in cooperation with russian colleague scientists. yes, in order to create all the sensors that need to be replaced, but a new generation of microelectronic systems that the topic for implementation including such smart things, an enterprise can be opened. it will not be the only enterprise; some of them will be part of the national academy of sciences , for example, the minsk research institute of radio materials, for example, the state scientific production association for optics and optoelectronics and laser technology. yes, and uh others. here is the integration integral planar. that is, this is what we need in such a large-scale work. it’s all very nice that someone owns technology. here he owns the world and we certainly hear from political scientists, therefore, we need sensors smart homes will also be created, as we

understand them. eh, they will start working on the housing of the future, because there is an important question, probably about the safety of the home. not only should it be comfortable, but also safe. i know that you also have programs, whatever you call them, in this regard. tell us . well, e, such an option as security, i would like to especially note. uh, in the context of a smart home, because it’s really, uh, important today and it’s already uh, at the scientific and technical level. uh, in order to move on to new ones fire warning systems and the national academy of sciences with the participation of the institute of housing and communal services. eh, such sensors, a, were developed in nirov’s work. now they continue to be developed at the pre- production stage. and uh, the next stage will

be work with the emergency services so that they can be adapted into the existing warning system. not just food. yes, but they are already taking some actions, even listen to them. the fact is that the existing sensors react either to an open flame, or smoke, and they can, uh, these are gas sensors, uh, pick up. uh, literally molecules, uh, molecules of hydrogen and carbon monoxide, which appear already in the process of oxidation of building materials. that is, uh, very early warning of a possible fire, when a person cannot even feel it and suspect that something is happening. well, yes, this exceeds human capabilities. and the fact that you are here, the water just lasted from them. even further in

the next future, the system already exists, as when there is a fire and the water turns on. this is it yes. well, technically it is possible. we are all talking now about securing our time. all fast response, these sensors will appear in all apartments, like soon or not in all, but only in new homes or how will this happen? what kind of program? i think the task will be to make them appear in all apartments, because we want to ensure security everywhere and in this sense, you are right that uh, everything concerns, uh, a smart home. well, how, how do we understand its energy efficiency and environmental friendliness security comfort it should be uh, available for existing housing, of course. well, this is not a prospect for tomorrow. and not in a year. i'm home. i hope that this is the prospect of the next five year plan. according to the state program

for comfortable housing and a favorable environment, by 2025 it is necessary to build about 800 water degreasing stations. uh, even before connecting more than 100 settlements to centralized water supply systems with drinking water, build about 300 water intake wells and transfer minsk to water supply from underground sources. e, the task was also set to provide all consumers in the republic with high-quality drinking water by 2025. eh, well, it’s clear that the station is being built without iron reinforcement. a-and reconstruction of water treatment facilities is being carried out. what else do scientists suggest to improve the quality of drinking water? well, here are the large-scale tasks that were set by the country’s leadership and are being implemented within the framework of the program for comfortable housing. under the control of the ministry of housing and communal services, there is also room for scientific tasks. well as for

of the city of minsk, you noted that in 2025 all residents will have access to artesian water, yes. this is important, and all water will comply with the standards by default. but, uh, as for covering the entire population of the republic of belarus, the president set exactly this task to ensure 100% access to high-quality drinking water. so, there are uh, questions and the need to conduct research, because there are regions in which it is not only iron, although this is the main one. well, let's just say it's a problem. well, manganese, uh, and humate iron, that’s typical for, uh, regions of polesie, there is a sharp part there, minsk region. uh, and here

it is necessary to conduct research, uh, which can be carried out by uh, scientists of the national academy of sciences in particular. e. institute of general inorganic chemistry, well, with the participation. i hope our institute is here too, so there is room for research. e is to ensure access to quality by 2025. it won't be long before we have time to implement all of this. i hope that we will have time to transfer the scientific part by 2025, but to provide uh, 100% of the population the task will be completed, because today uh practices and uh, hmm, housing and communal services enterprises entering channels they uh, will provide this with other available means, not only centralized water supply and appropriate treatment stations. this could also be

water delivery. this can also be special tanks. uh, we have settlements where 5-10 people only live and there is the issue of centralized water supply. well, it’s very very complicated from an economic point of view, so uh, task will be done, but in accessible ways, i recently read about them as the easiest way to get rich. this is selling water. yes , drinkable today, but this is becoming such another gold of our century. we also use fresh water. yes, in apartments and houses and everywhere, well, it’s her resource. this is what science will say: we resume. whether we have enough of this fresh drinking water or we will also organize delivery over time for a lot of money, belarus is one of the few countries that can boast of it. in general, such a golden resource. well i don't

i’m a specialist in geology, but i want to say that there is accurate information. we have sufficient reserves of high-quality water, but this means that we can treat it lightly, so to speak, and we must value this resource. this is truly gold, considering that today there are uh, close to a billion people on the globe who have uh, critically small amounts of water for their use, so it's really a boon for us. well, one more pressing question. now this is the management of municipal solid waste. uh, in 2035 the goal is to bring the level of use of this company to 90%. what e numbers do we have now and what is being done to get closer to this cherished figure of 90%. but today it’s about thirty-three percent. e of municipal solid waste is converted into

secondary material resources, that is, e is used. well, the goal is, uh, really by 2025. 64%, and by the thirty -fifth year, already in the nineties, more than this, uh , the approved national program document is a strategy for handling solids municipal waste. uh, so it must be carried out, and uh, there are prerequisites that it will be carried out specifically by an important institution. what proposals did he make so that uh, we strive for 90%? the institute is involved in a number of studies on this topic, and this is also connected with the development of several technologies for composting technology using the organic part of municipal solid waste, uh, and s. e development of composting technology using

sewage sludge, e and municipal solids waste. this is an interesting technology. and the results will be, uh, but today the institute is involved in all sorts of projects, uh, which are launched by the ministry of housing and communal services, the operator of secondary material resources, other organizations of the national academy of sciences, uh, and we are working on this topic with industry enterprises. we are working on this topic with district executive committees and other public organizations, but because, well, the task is quite difficult, i want to say that in order to ensure. eh, here's the indicator even 2025 64%, but we need to fulfill it.

well, partial separate collection will not work without this. what does partial mean, that is, now we see containers containing solid municipal waste, separate plastic, separate paper, separate glass, that’s what it is. this is the partial one. yes today. uh, we have containers for mixed waste and we have containers for mixed bmr renewable material resources, that is , paper, plastics and so on. and note that the export, uh, is carried out separately of these containers of mixed vmr and mixed tacos carried out separately, but the residents of the house say how god will put his packages into these containers. that is, where the sorting should take place is what is thrown. this is bad, but uh, about the sorting. something is being sorted, and

it happens, uh, separately mixed waste. naturally. we, uh, can extract less bp from them because uh, organic matter is a strong pollutant. but those that are collected separately are like extinct, but even if someone didn’t give birth there and abandoned something, it’s much easier to sort them and if in the first in one case, the yield of vmr is conditionally 10%, in the second case it is 30 and 50%, and these are completely different things, which is why i say that sorting should take place at the apartment level. we will come to this sooner or later, which means that social advertising is not enough, there are not enough conversations on this topic at all. how do you think in the public field? why do we see proudly there are some advertisements and commercials on this topic appearing on television. there is

even a slogan: our name is they are a raccoon. why should we sort waste? well , somehow that's all. well, not shaky, nor sorry, yes you can do a lot and it will not be enough , you can do even more. and it won't be enough. there are also funds behind all this, but i believe that you need to accept the system once and invest. eh, a necessary remedy. and it will work. i'm absolutely sure that we will have our own uh, belarusian way uh in terms of separate collection, and a system of organization. we will use this better, but it will definitely be our own. uh, second. i know for sure that our population is ready for this. i won't make a discovery when i say that today is... several billion tons of plastic waste in the world. eh, they transform. eh, somewhere in the floating islands. and somewhere around us

they are transforming. in microplastics, which circulate through us and through everything, therefore , plastic is a problem other waste. this is also a problem, therefore, well, let’s remember the middle ages, when, uh, super epidemics and plague and cholera began. this was also connected with uh with waste from the state of the urban communal environment. there were already cities. so uh, big, and people took their heads in their hands and made certain decisions, therefore, we have to do the same thing and nothing new is given, because if the responsibility is both before ourselves, before us and before the future. that is, these are small words. is this about

motives? yes, that is, not very serious environmental ones. yes, but there are economic ones. you know , such a common phrase today is that income should be turned, uh, waste into income. yes, well, she is absolutely fair because it is really available today; we, uh, by calling waste, by the way, it is no longer possible as garbage. uh, this is waste that we need to convert into secondary material resources. and what does this container of mixed waste look like today? there is, uh, up to 40%, uh, organic waste, approximately 30%, uh, this is uh, well , the so-called difficult, identifiable and difficult to recycle waste and another 30% of this mmr, which is very easily recycled , glass and plastic. uh, paper and stuff.

well, that’s why today the issue with this part has been resolved. well, 30-33%, that’s it, and the other two parts are , of course, connected, among other things, with the involvement of science and scientific research. eh, but separate collection. eh, still in charge corner here, because we won't be able to, but we won't be able to. it’s easy to separate these three components in order to work with them. and this must be done. we 'll take a break now. after a short pause , we will return to this studio again, while subscribe to our telegram channel. that's what it's called. say, don’t be silent, look for all our episodes on the youtube channel belarus 1. on the air say again, don’t be silent, and our guest is the director of the institute of housing and communal services of the national academy of sciences vadimkikov in

belarus, since january 2021, a ban has been introduced on the use of a certain list of plastic utensils in public catering establishments is done. this was within the framework of the resolution of the council of ministers, and a gradual reduction in the use of polymer packaging. well, let's say, let's say from plastic plastic bags. in principle, you can refuse by replacing them. well, for the same paper ones, or degradable ones, but with plastic packaging, not everything is as simple as it seems to me. that is, right away, but refusing and replacing it with something is quite problematic. well, that’s what we’re talking about in the resolution, then there is a gradual uh reduction where we uh, we can’t give up today, we shouldn’t give up and eat certain foods. there are certain products. this must be admitted. uh, but there is room for reduction. uh, the use of plastic

packaging, including uh, plastic packaging in general, about 50% is taken up by packaging containers, but in general, uh, plastic. well, for starters, at least refuse. from using a huge number of free these packages, as for me, for example, store. uh, the seller says, so take the bag. fold this separately. and why are we putting everything in the water and he says, i don’t need one, just one. so this is a free argument. that is, here too, probably a little bit of mentality. we need to change what is free. so you have to take it. that is, at the cashier level, i would already suggest offering paper bags. and for some reason, as we know, the director of paper bag production was our guest. he can't reach the big stores to they wanted to switch from plastic bags to paper bags. and i believe that there is, uh, a set of measures both from above and from below, firstly, and

the transition to biodegradable packaging involves the creation of production for biodegradable packaging. and this will just allow us to replace it. so it will be able to replace plastic packaging in the part that will remain. and another set of measures from below is us consumers. uh, i think that we, uh, if we take 100%, uh, of our use of, let’s say, uh, plastic, then today. we can definitely do 10% refuse. right from the hypermarket. as they say and what benefit it will bring , obviously this reduction will benefit. e waste. uh, plastic today we have 28. thousand tons of waste, uh, plastic, half of which is 140,000 tons - this is just packaging. this is exactly

the global scale. eh, a good drop, that is, 10% we can already refuse the excess amount of these packages. this is available the following 10%, we can replace paper packaging, and in this regard , the manufacturers of these products are absolutely right ; today paper packaging containers are the following 10-20% we will be able to replace it in the near future. i hope the packaging is bio degradable and will remain 50%. here is 50% we are already switching to non-plastic. and where we cannot. well, for now we'll use it. here we can. give examples. this is where the objective ones cannot be abandoned. but everyday examples . listen, if we buy, for example, herring in a hypermarket, then today. well , a paper bag probably won’t be able to replace the glorious soviet times, when

there was such a clever piece of paper that well preserved the herring and its buyer. from the smell and from the fact that it begins to deteriorate, and today they put these in bags. it seems to me that this is all bad for food and for the person who eats from bags, well, this is at the present stage, and tomorrow, probably, and by the way, my colleagues , scientists from the institute of chemistry of new materials, will probably be offended by me and inorganic chemistry in general, because they have developed new types of heat-resistant paper and so on, which , in my opinion, can withstand the herring, so there are already such developments. here we are talking about the same thing as this task. i was just putting the president on this before there was a corresponding resolution of the council of ministers. step-by-step care and this task has not been canceled. we must move towards this. well, to be honest, sometimes i’m taken aback by how much garbage there is. yes, in a day, well, just

look in the office or at home. how many plastic bags of all kinds do you throw in the trash? i even told my son that we are not a family, but a garbage factory. this is absolutely, and really very scary for the future. planet for me personally. i'll say more and one problem that, well, is already well known to specialists. we are already using biodegradable bags and packaging in one way or another, and they will continue to come. um, but they also need to be collected separately, because when mixed, for example, with polyethylene, they won’t allow it. eh, this waste of polyethylene will be. uh in mmm. this is a pollutant. that is, it should be here too, but this is not an obstacle, it is what kind of container should be thrown away not in plastic and, accordingly , not in paper or glass, that is, in ordinary waste. there's a part there today

biodegradable, and they are called biocompostable, and we suggest that the organic part of the waste. we will collect separately. uh, so that it ’s collected, uh, in a separate bucket and in a biocompostable bag, and this bag , along with organic waste cleaning, can all go straight to composting. this is a serious advantage, and he will no longer mix with the police, living in the city center. where will i go with this bag to give it for composting? this is about the following stage, when we have complete separation. here we are, like residents. after all, we are partners in terms of housing and communal services. yes, uh, help me model such a uh, situation that will allow. eh, well, getting closer to separate collection. let's take,

for example, a housing cooperative with two entrances. i live in the same building. you are in something else. how can we convince residents to sort it out separately, waste first of all, encouraged? i know in japan how they came and it’s just that i studied this experience and encouraged them. that is, these were some kind of bonuses in stores. that is, they showed they filmed a video there of them collecting garbage separately. that is, they were given discounts. well, here, it seems to me, there is a material incentive at all times. he was and will remain. yes, so as not to delay our training. eh, i'll tell you. i’ll just express this idea of ​​attack, there are already startups, for example in russia , why is there an sec? well, because here we are, the leadership there . you are the director of the sec. we go to the residents and, for example, say, let’s collect them separately, why, but it will be better this way.

well, the same story begins. now look we are coming and you said it right it's an economic incentive. we say, let’s hire one person who will collect in mmr, let’s hire it inexpensively, because he will service several of the same spk. well, it’s inexpensive, but it will provide separate collection and a means that we will get from our uh, here we take out the waste. yes, they will come to us so that you want a video surveillance camera you want to install. eh, some smart things there , we won’t stop, the barrier is something else. yes we want everything you agree agree everyone subscribed and implement today this person. eh, as part of the spk it can already be a procurer. and according to today’s legislation, he has the opportunity to collect everything separately from this house and the residents

are happy, that is, they are immediately motivated. i you i think any person will immediately do it perfectly, because if we don’t do it perfectly, then we won’t achieve what we want . i guessed that we would end up with the fact that it had to be a specific person, it’s possible in the system that serves housing and communal services it’s still the same most. can. eh, let's organize it. i don't want to go into detail. and this will need to be done at the next stage. well, no one, of course, will under any circumstances cancel the environmental enlightenment, this social aspect, uh, world experience shows, and our experience too, that children are the best volunteers. just imagine, uh, a child comes into the family, uh, and says, uh, what we have, uh, that’s wrong, mom, we live, we need to

collect separately. this is not cool, and neither is our pioneer squad. here, uh, she said what to do like this and the one who takes out the trash with only one bag, this is not cool, this is bad, and i will keep an eye on this and i will be the main thing for you here and in this matter it is interesting, of course, we’ll meet you today, because we didn’t suspect, that we have an institute of housing and communal services and such important and interesting tasks. it is resolved. thank you very much. you were very welcome. interesting, again tatyana shcherbina victoria popova we say goodbye to you for today. goodbye. goodbye. and now vadimkov speaks. i would like to wish the partners of the institute housing and communal services for successful work, especially in our common projects. uh, workers in the housing and communal services sector. i wish you successful work, stamina and health. because it's a very important matter.

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