here, our belarusians abroad, our compatriots, make new friends and then come to visit each other with their creative programs and some joint international projects. and this makes it possible for them to meet with us in minsk and interview with the director of the republican center for national cultures. olga ekapson in the event program. this thursday the cleaning company is active in belarus. to date, more than 7.5 million tons of grain have already been threshed, including rapeseed, of which almost 6.5 million grain and leguminous crops with corn , rapeseed, this year there was an excellent harvest of more than one million thirty-seven thousand tons, and corn was also a success. currently, grain harvesting is actively underway in all regions; epidemiologists remind us that the season of respiratory viral infections is approaching; the peak is predicted for february or october. until november, epidemiologists recommend getting vaccinated against the flu, especially for belarusians. who is at high risk now in 15. data is circulating a new

stamp of coronavirus perola according to information the ministry of health in belarus has not yet identified it; specialists are monitoring the situation; these are viruses that are more infectious ; these are viruses that are more deadly to their receptor in the human body, but fortunately at the present time, severe manifestations of these viruses have not yet been described, which will circulate, including apparently on our territory we are ready for both the outpatient and inpatient stages, protocols have been developed, there are drugs for treatment, republican student days are being held in brest young people from all over the country came to the forum at the pushkin university; student excursions opened; they laid flowers at the eternal flame at the defense museum of the brest fortress and honored the memory of those who died during the great patriotic war; students will try themselves and release their keta as journalists; we

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centers in belarus. each of the heroes of the new people project chose their own path and achieved their first great success. he cut his first horse in secret. in principle, we even start with simple things and gradually move up step by step. and he himself is at home. eh, quietly expressed this icon, brought it to me , showed it, talented, brave, always ready he wants to learn something new, but he loves to work on details. he is the kind of person who admires every element of his canvas. he starts to play. and you know how the fakir who hypnotizes a cobra with a pipe. that’s exactly how lyosha worked miracles as a deputy today , they are the pride of the country at performances. i didn’t even expect that he would play so porously without any embarrassment, everything is clean, and

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is authorized to announce and i am the presenter nadezhda sas greetings, let me remind you. this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening and understand how these processes , events and people will affect the side and life of everyone in today's program. let's try to answer the question. will there be a new war for karabakh? but first, we will tell you about the main events in world politics this week . the president of equatorial guinea, teodora bianca, gemom basoga, made a successful visit to the republic of belarus during negotiations between alexander lukashenko and basoga. discussed the development of cooperation between the two countries in the field of industrialization of agriculture, energy and education , equatorial guinea over the past decades, thanks to large oil reserves , has reached fourth place in africa in terms of gdp per capita . the country, rich in oil dollars, is interested in belarusian agricultural products. tractors, trucks and other mechanical engineering goods the leader of equatorial

guinea asked alexander lukashenko to hold a mutual opening of embassies, which would make this country an entry point for belarus into the promising region of central africa. in the southern part of the black continent, the country of zimbabwesit of the leader of the dprk in russia has shown the growing role of pyongyang in the international arena for minsk, who arrived in the amur region on his famous armored train, kim jong-un, together with vladimir putin, visited the vostochny cosmodrome and then held negotiations as part of a delegation and in the format tête-à-tête on the eve of the visit. the western press was full of publications that the dprk intends to sell russia large volumes of ammunition for multiple launch rocket systems and ballistic missiles, allegedly. these questions. recently , pyongyang was raised during a trip by the delegation of the russian ministry of defense and now must be agreed upon at the level of kim and putin based on the results of the negotiations. the russian leader made it clear that military -technical cooperation was among the topics discussed,

and his remark that although russia is a self-sufficient country, the two states have opportunities for cooperation in the military-technical sphere was assessed. as confirmation of the previously discussed versions about the dprk’s readiness to support moscow in the context its global south in ukraine, for the first time forced the political west to make noticeable concessions. this conclusion is prompted by the results of the g20 summit in new delhi, where in the final declaration the us and the eu failed to defend the clause condemning russia’s actions in ukraine in the final document of last year’s summit. there was such a passage in bali this time, india, as the host party, made great efforts to ensure that the issue of ukraine did not lead to an open split between the participants themselves, and in this, many succeeded in what happened west. we saw hints of the readiness of washington and brussels to turn ukraine over and discuss with new economic leaders from asia, africa and latin america those topics on which

a compromise can be reached, from combating global warming to countering new pandemics, the g20 summit showed that the west has failed to involve a large part of humanity into the anti-russian coalition and is finally ready to admit the harmfulness of further attempts for its own key interests. and we begin our program, i want to note that it’s good the word karabakh, familiar to us, translated from turkic means black garden; armenians prefer to call this territory artsakh after the name of the province of ancient great armenia between these two words from a linguistic point of view. there is nothing in common, just as after a decade of mutual hostility there is almost nothing left in common between the azerbaijani and armenian people. this is probably why only weapons are trying to solve the problem of karabakh, and if there is a chance for a peaceful settlement or we will soon witness the third karabakh war

, this will be discussed in today’s program i am pleased to welcome to our studio the presence of andrei petrovich pogodil , deputy chief of the faculty of the general staff of the armed forces of belarus , candidate of military sciences. hello rafael nikitovich ardukhanyan, political scientist, doctor of political sciences, journalist from russia , is with us today. well, we're going by tradition. we begin our discussion with a quick question, which i address to each guest in our studio. how likely is a new large-scale clash between armenia and azerbaijan andrey petrovich please re-divide the world a change in spheres of influence and liberation from colonial dependence necessarily leads to some hot phases. today we obviously see all over the world. uh, in general, the intensity of passions and the expansion of the armed conflict that is going on today in ukraine. that is, we see what is happening in africa. we see what

is happening today or what is happening today in the transcaucasus. questions that may arise at any time in central asia or, for example. from taiwan that is, all these areas. they seem to all these regions today are on the threshold of some kind of hot phase. we are all constantly doing something. we are waiting for andreevich’s question. yes, please, rafaelniks. how likely is another new wave of mutual claims that will develop into a military confrontation? you know the events that are now happening in armenia , they worry me very much. the last word will be said by the people and the people of armenia. i sincerely. i hope this is what yuri dudkin, ukrainian military experts, sees. analyst joined our broadcast lawyer. thank you for talking to us about a new round, but quite the confrontation that we are seeing in nagorno-karabakh. how likely is a new

large-scale clash between armenia and azerbaijan in your opinion? good afternoon nadezhda good afternoon, guests in the studio, this has been a topic since the early nineties, or so much thanks to the wise policy of the azerbaijani leadership at that time, led by heydar aliyev. and by the way, the armenian leadership in recent years before the so -called maidan in yerevan, namely serge sargsyan managed to localize these contradictions, these armed conflicts that already existed at that time. eh, entailed. uh, colossal sacrifices on the part of both armenia and azerbaijan on the territory of nagorno-karabakh, uh, it must be said that following the example, for example, nagorno -karabakh, which certainly existed back in

soviet times, as an autonomous region with the rights of a union republic. i nod, the same region, for example, was in tajikistan, the badakhshan mountain autonomous region, and nevertheless. there also arise almost every year there are some kind of inter-ethnic contradictions that the government of tajikistan, led by president emomali rahmon mudra, politicians are trying, and uh, trying to avoid this intensity of this armed conflict, which the current armenian leadership in its entirety. i emphasize that it is subordinated to, uh, an external curator, namely the quarrel, namely the united states, namely the state department. by the way, armenia is a member of the csto. i have never participated in

military exercises or joint military exercises of the csto. this also says a lot, lastly time. yes, yuri, i want to focus on this. andrey petrovich already exists today, and the likelihood is that armenia will recover from the accident or even the russian federation will try to change the republic of belarus. and the mood in society. although, perhaps you can correct me, to what extent society supports the chosen course of mr. deep, unfortunately. this is also a question that, let’s say, is a sore point. i'm still sincere. i hope that the armenian public will wake up and see. what a pit these sorosyatniks are being dragged into. how absolutely rightly said the colleague from ukraine. i hope that at the last moment we will be able to stop, as was done in russia at one time and as it was done, in fact. and here, but for this we need a leader who will lead yes, andrei petrovich , return to my operational-strategic

combat exercise, brotherhood, which we had, well, so to speak, so it was a surprise that they would not come to us. the armenians were not yuri is absolutely right in noticing that the exercise that is being conducted today is a partner oryol or a partner la-2023 by and large. it, of course, has no global significance; 85 armenians, 85 us military personnel, 175 armenian military personnel are involved there, and in essence , well, the exercise, as it were, has such an ordinary peacekeeping nature, but when and under what conditions were these exercises carried out? refusal to conduct joint withdrawal of exercises with the organization of a collective security treaty of its commander, and in fact the beginning of curtailing its activities within the framework of the collective security treaty, how should all this be treated here in our activities, i often come across both military personnel from armenia and azerbaijan, and i want to say that the armenian military personnel

are very well trained; they have an excellent military school. well, what turns it off, for example, the azerbaijani military has perseverance and the ability to master everything new , let’s pay attention to the screen, we have prepared a wonderful infographic , we compared the war potential, armenia of azerbaijan please well, that’s just what we are talking about comparison, armenia of azerbaijan that is, if we and we were everything witnesses, well, certainly informational witnesses of the forty-four-day war. we saw all these systems and we can state the fact that 70-80% of them were based on either soviet-made or russian-made systems, but in fact, for all the main types of weapons systems, of course, azerbaijan originated. and especially in terms of quality.

if we are talking, for example, about airplanes, then there are t-90 tanks, if we are talking about batkh, there are already 82 tanks. unfortunately, armenia could not boast of this, why did it rested peacefully on e. hmm, i rested on the laurels of victory in the first karabakh war, so for some reason i did not find the latest developments in these systems. and those that had systems and could transfer it’s like su-30 cm aircraft, it’s like systems. eh, such as iskander, they simply were not used. and if we talk about the possibilities of today ’s confrontation between azerbaijan and armenia , we can look at the gdp. well, the gdp of azerbaijan is striving for five percent and has not yet reached five percent of the military gdp of armenia . azerbaijan is a little more than 5%. well in absolute terms figures, if you look, azerbaijan invests approximately 2.5 times more in its armed forces and in addition

, the military military reserve, that is , the mobilization reserve of azerbaijan significantly exceeds the mobilization reserve of armenia today, which path did you take , you see what nikol pashinyan said that there are allies who do not fulfill their obligations to supply weapons, and an agreement is being concluded in armenia. 400 million dollars for arms supplies from india, whatever goes there, goes there. uh, reactive systems multiple rocket launchers go there, artillery systems go there, various anti-aircraft systems go there, that is, quite a large amount of equipment actually goes there from india, this becomes a fact, in fact, the main partner of the military, all this is carried out, of course, supplies through iran iran, of course. this is not displayed anywhere. because iran acts as a rogue country in

the international arena. well, i’m sure that iran is also carrying out activities there, so andrei petrovich is what we hear from the lips of mr. pashinyan has recently said that they need to protect national sovereignty and national interests, but if their own forces do not have their own resources, then they are ready to provide this opportunity to protect them, another state. here we are already talking. we understand perfectly well that we are not talking about the russian federation. here, of course, first of all, the question is about the problems of the senyuksky dagursky corridor, as it is also called? pay attention to the map, please, colleagues. bring the problem exactly there to draw in third-party players and pashinites, playing here this international arena. he is trying to attract outside players to the caucasus ; there are those states that are permanently located there that are interested in stability. this is a formula that is often said 3 + 3, these are the countries of the caucasus.

and the russian federation, turkey and iran, besides these countries, by and large, no one there can play this card, but i think they won’t be able to, but pashinyan is trying to drag the anglo-saxons in there and other players are trying to get involved. let's talk about other players, let's talk in more detail, i see that nikola merkovich, head of a non-governmental organization, joined our broadcast. west, east, mister yarkovich with happy mister merkevich. i am glad to see you on our television program, thank you. thank you for your invitation, mr. mirkovic, considered friends a-a. western friends should be armenia's most important allies. why does paris so consistently support yerevan? i assume that they want to seem like this, but in reality we

have to turn to something a little different. so the middle ages, when armenia had strong ties with such strange, where are the strong armenian diasporas now. historically there are very strong connections between armenia and other countries. it was like that until today . however. i believe that it is necessary to understand how far the friends of armenia are ready to go to help it, we have not heard that they condemned what is happening in northern karabakh or fatherland. the president of turkey spoke about terrorists, he described them in these words, azerbaijan in their fight against armenia , the french senate adopted a resolution recognizing the independence of karabakh but that’s it everything, that is, is. it’s just that some voices

are some kind of political marketing, but friends should probably help armenia, for example, send an army or do something similar, this is what brotherhood between friends should look like. i would say that there should be a military intervention for peaceful reasons. we also see a chance that there is a fairly strong friendship. however, we do not observe any strong support. please stay with us. well, based on the answers. uh, mr. merkovich, how far can armenia’s allies go today in protecting her interests. and in general, who are these allies of allies? this is a bluff that

has been selling for several years now. what allies? who will fight for them, france or something, will fight, england will fight when the genocide of the armenian people took place in 1915, all these countries stood on the sidelines and watched as millions of, so to speak, armenians were slaughtered, were killed, and so on finger , but they didn’t hit a finger, except for some people there who raised their voices in the press . they paid attention to it everywhere, so to speak. really, history doesn’t teach anything to the only guarantor of armenia’s integrity. it was always russia, it was always russia i’m fine and the same attitude, by the way, was towards armenia. now these conversations about russia abandoning mobilization were not announced, armenia did not declare war, armenia did not recognize karabakh. and what kind of support did they talk about? , if armenia does not recognize this territory and invades this territory, azerbaijan and who do they want at that moment when they were sitting on the streets of yerevan and drinking coffee, they wanted russian soldiers there did you give your life?

as they say, i’m not talking about those several thousand guys who died, who volunteered to defend, but the armenian army, even what you showed here, in which there is half the size of the azerbaijani united states, it didn’t even advance and didn’t help, they lost the city of shushi it’s on whose conscience everything is. therefore, in this situation, talk about any of these things. this is simply ridiculous, armenia is now at the crossroads of geopolitical passions that are playing out in the region. the axis is now being created west east, turanian corridor. turkey is trying. and turkey what is turkey on the other side of the transfer case? where is the anglo-suction connected? mentally , in order to reach central asia, this corridor, and now compare it with the axis that brig is creating - this is the south north axis and it also passes through the caucasus right here, so pashinyan doesn’t even understand. what kind of game is he getting into? despite the fact that the next karabakh war ended in 2020, the

conflict resolution process is still ongoing. in addition, on the border of armenia and from time to time in azerbaijan, armed clashes occur, which aggravate contradictions and move away from the signing of a peace treaty. the situation is unclear, both with the lachin road connecting armenians living in karabakh from the territory of armenia and the zangizur corridor, which was supposed to connect the azerbaijani exploding nakhichevan with azerbaijan and at the same time, the problems in the south caucasus are beneficial, perhaps, only to one country and the wound, which is against the backdrop of another escalation. the conflict is trying to restore. my historical significance in the region, but i will note that for the last 3 years, armenia and azerbaijan have been trying to sign a peace treaty, the result of which should be recognition of each other’s territorial integrity, and in armenia, at the same time, they have apparently come to terms with the fact that azerbaijan will sooner or later gain control over the entire territory therefore, the government of nagorno-karabakh

agreed to accept the conditions of the president of the neighboring party, el ham aliyev, but about a new stage of aggravation of the conflict. still , we’ll tell you in more detail in our short story. three years after the war in nagorno -karabakh, a new stage of armed confrontation may begin, starting in 2020 . after the so-called victory of azerbaijan, local armenians had to obtain citizenship of the country or leave for armenia, since with the full return of nagorno-karabakh to azerbaijan, they would not have the right to stay there without receiving citizenship. however, in 3 years the peace treaty is closer. i stood up at three negotiating platforms, and moscow, brussels and washington , on the other hand, could not come to an agreement, armenia demands an international mechanism. azerbaijan considers guarantees of the rights of armenians unacceptable for any international mechanism to operate on its sovereign territory. at the same time , the country’s leadership no longer has the strength to tolerate the gray zone; baku

really has the strength. there is a chance to solve the nagorno-karabakh problem once and for all , primarily by force. azerbaijan surpasses armenia in military and economic power. nagorno-karabakh is recognized by all participants in international relations as part of azerbaijan. moreover, the united states and the eu need azerbaijan as a reliable supplier of energy resources, so quarreling with it and imposing sanctions is dangerous and not at all necessary, at the same time, experts. yerevan is increasingly accused of not understanding the real agenda. now, armenia is trying to look for allies. everywhere, somewhere not very successful , somewhere late, somewhere inadequate. from a logical point of view, this only adds points to azerbaijan. at this time, the number of border incidents is growing ; accusations constantly appear that armenia is shelling azerbaijan; transport vehicles are flying in parallel planes with weapons from israel are no longer even in baku. and closer to the border there is evidence of the conscription of reservists for military service.

the situation is further aggravated by the humanitarian crisis, and there is no way to solve the tense situation. not yet yuri in your opinion. what could be the ways to resolve this situation, because based on our story we understand that mutual claims were growing and again the question is how to behave for armenia because in the twentieth year it seemed that this issue had been resolved, but again porokhovaya the barrel reminds of itself. well, that's right, my colleagues noticed. indeed, until the west and especially the united states stop interfering in the internal affairs of sovereign states, including armenia, this conflict will constantly hang in the air. i will tell you one case, especially concerning ukraine, how ukraine reacted to the last second, and second, armenian-azerbaijani conflict. it’s very

short. nadezhda means, uh, in 2020 i was invited in kiev to one of akhmetov’s tv channels, where we discussed the general current problems in donbass it would seem that i was invited. for what? by the way, i was very surprised, as a military expert. so, being in the studio for only an hour, at that moment terrible military clashes began between azerbaijan, the azerbaijani army and the armenian army. back then, of course, the armies of nagorno-karabakh were also connected to the studio on skype, as i am today, former ukrainian official gavrish and former general of the ukrainian armed forces romanenko, you can’t imagine. with what ecstasy they spewed out russophobia and said that well, that’s it russia will finally be obliged to intervene.

she will get bogged down in this conflict, which will play into our hands, but they didn’t care that they were killing armenians on a huge scale, primarily in karabakh because they live compactly there; they didn’t care about what really happened. uh, turkey has a colossal influence on this region, including uh, azerbaijan. there is a colossal turkish lobby in azerbaijan, they didn’t care about anything. this is the principle of the ukrainians. reacts to the armed conflict in karabakh as you know to the neighbor’s house that is on fire and the more it flares up. the more it sets fire to its neighbors, the ukrainians, especially the ukrainian authorities. i'm not talking about ukrainians in the ranks, uh, ukrainians in the ranks. this is a shame for the ukrainian authorities. i conclude the point is that your anger i would like more bad things literally, please, yes, two words. eh, my colleagues correctly said that today

the only way out. from this situation , the temporary presence of peacekeeping forces on the territory of russian peacekeeping forces on the territory of nagorno-karabakh without these peacekeeping forces without the conspiracy of pashinyan’s four leaders. eh, aliyev erdogan and putin there is no talk of any future peace yet. yuri thank you very much, you remembered turkey. i would like to talk about its positioning in the current battle today mr. merkovich inch mr. mirkovich, do you think that turkey currently remains a reliable nato ally or does it actually occupy an intermediate position between the west and russia? turkey is, of course

, trying to extract. the best of both worlds. we we believe that moscow, washington and brussels are trying to find some kind of middle ground between their own interests. many countries are buying nuclear weapons from russia to ukraine , all pursuing their own interests. they want their own position, as well as turkey's position near the caspian sea, as well as in the mediterranean. and also turkey’s position in north african countries, as for armenia and azerbaijan, we believe that turkey is helping azerbaijan. they defend the positions of a secret country, they sent weapons to azerbaijan. there are uh literally a few

minutes ago they were talking about france. i believe that france should protect armenia, this is what they were talking about, however, in fact , it turns out that they help azerbaijan much more and it turns out that turkey is a neighbor of these countries and has much more history with azerbaijan from ankara , for sure. they will seek to negotiate with russia and will try to take a stronger position. i don't think moscow will be ready to accept this. we must also take into account the g20.

the caucasus and the mediterranean are all these different places in the world where the balance of power is changing. i would like to point out that consensus is missing from this situation. ankara will certainly seek to pursue its own interests. he will definitely negotiate with moscow. they will discuss something related to the caucasus at these negotiations, however, once. most likely, in the end it will strive for the golden mean. and at the same time, it is better to extract from both sides, both the west and the east. mr. mirkovic, thank you, i want to grow in gratitude to you for your participation in this program. thank you. rafaelniki can’t help but draw attention to your comment , which was made during the response of our french expert, when

you emphasized that france should protect armenia yes, you emphasized and clarified that yes, probably the same way france protects africa today how she resisted , so to speak, the genocide in rwanda, although the troops were there, we saw how the french troops behaved then, let france help itself. this will be very good. now as for the position of turkey, 100% support for azerbaijan, the thesis one nation, two countries, no one left and verbalized or so to speak a step in due time, and naturally erdogan says this, so here we should not have any doubts, so to speak, so about , turkey is trying to restore the imperial mindset phantoms of the empire. they are alive and not only, by the way, turkey is also wounded, and all the time the imperial country of turkey is solving other problems. once again i want to emphasize iran and turkey, they solve their problems, i’ll tell you even, maybe a little more, turkey, in principle, is now using

azerbaijan as an achievement of this turanian great turanian project and azerbaijan, from my point of view , is now interested in turkey. that’s the only reason for this whole low corridor that they want to break through. this is not a corridor between azerbaijan and nakhichevan, as many azerbaijani politicians, including president aliyev, think, this is a corridor that will connect the ankara port with central asia. there is an exit there. there the ground is being prepared, a colossal number of american and turkish ngos are working there, in kazakhstan and uzbekistan and kyrgyzstan everywhere. there they are. turkey thinks that it is solving its own project, as they say. the turanian corridor, but the fact is that she does not see that behind her are completely different anglo-saxon and nato forces that will connect somewhere there in the bolgar region of the greek-turkish border. they will connect to this corridor and not turkish interests will go there to central asia and further closer to the chinese border, but the interests of the anglo-saxons and

nato will be the same corridor that this dream will pass through. nato was going to bypass this territory from the south - this is iran to the north - this is ah, russia and only this corridor will connect strategically. this is yuri yuri, over to you. now i literally have two words in support of raphael and uh merkovich, of course, your guest is a holy man. he naively believes that france will stand up for armenia . let the lord from france remember how they stood up for the flood, where gaddafi once sacrificed a fly. and sarkozy's election campaign is worth 5 million dollars, and it's sarcasm time conflicts of cia interference in the affairs of libya van villos back uh gaddafi, this is a clear example that france follows and it sets this example, and the example for the rest of the west, except

for their own interests. eh, nothing can happen, there can be no talk of any conscience, there can be no talk of any kind of diplomacy yuri thank you very much for your historical insight for us and our viewers. we are going on an expedition to purchase our ukraine, which we will rob and despise as chryasbins. according to rumors, let's go deep into the past and settle down, yes follows the name solo and oradoy. so. you haven’t forgotten everything that your new dance team showed up to give away. show that you know how to swaddle and give the second traditions a new life. we, without tom, will sing a joke about what is shaping up to be a national song. zakida, the horses came out to lead. hey, the people are gone,

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land project. nothing personal just the truth, which is always more interesting at home. watch on tv channel belarus 24. i remind you that the program is on air and you are authorized to declare in today’s program. we are trying to find an answer to the question. will there be a new war for karabakh? it is important to note that on september 12, speaking at the eastern economic forum , russian president vladimir putin said that the armenian authorities had actually recognized the sovereignty of azerbaijan over nagorno-karabakh . i suggest you hear a direct speech, right now we were offering our options for a settlement. and what is there to hide there? i think this is good. it is known, and armenia controlled seven

regions, we proposed, uh, proposed to come to an agreement with azerbaijan in such a way that two regions or the jer lachin regions would remain under the jurisdiction of virtually armenia and all of karabakh, but the armenian leadership did not agree with this. yes, it's not just about the results. uh, this uh, this last conflict is also due to the fact that the armenian leadership, uh, essentially, well, not essentially essentially, but recognized the sovereignty of azerbaijan here in karabakh and in uh in its prague statement. eh, just got it down on paper. well, we know about it here. well, why should i tell them now president aliyev tells me, well, you know that armenia recognized that karabakh has recognized us, that the question of

the status of karabakh is no longer on the table, it was decided by the armenian leadership. she publicly stated this, counting the entire territory before 1991 within the framework of the azerbaijani ussr. and she named the figure that included, which included, of course, the territory of karabakh itself. this happened. it's not our decision, it's decision of the armenian leadership today. yes, i think that uh vladimirovich is referring to the meeting in kazan. in kazan , the kazan meeting of president aliyev and prime minister pashinyan. i would like now especially a colleague from ukraine and a respected audience. look how this technology works, then i am deeply convinced that pashinyan was given the order not to sign this agreement. because if an agreement had been signed preserving

the sovereignty of both karabakh and the lachin corridor, we are fighting now. if you pashinyans then, under the auspices of russia in kazan, signed these agreements, aliyev was ready to do this, then everything, so to speak, that is called the fruits of this victory would have been with russia . the west would not allow this. and that’s why he put pressure on pashinyan not to agree with this interpretation in the same way as these scoundrels are now doing with ukraine, preventing them from reaching an agreement, putting forward additional conditions, and everything that is happening now. you know what else is important to note. this is a rather complex topic to understand today position and certain plans of the russian federation as well, because it is widely believed that russia’s need to focus on ukraine and everything connected with it makes it impossible for moscow to divert resources to the south caucasus and, frankly, many of the same russian experts. i am inclined to say that rather this is not our

battle, that from today, if we are talking about post-soviet countries, and the sphere of interests of the russian federation includes ukraine , the republic of belarus, then kazakhstan , new promising regions have appeared such like africa and many others. that is, the battle of armenia is not beneficial for russia today, or at least not needed. argue with this statement russia is a global player, therefore everything that happens in the world today to one degree or another will always concern russia, but nevertheless, i would like to return a little to the problem that yuri supported today precisely in the aspects of who the allies are and who are just fellow travelers who should accompany. well, at the same time , let’s rummage through the pockets of these states. here the problem of karabakh today is a problem that will last indefinitely, but it will be a problem for both armenians and azerbaijanis until it appears. there is a strong player there , which once was the soviet union, which

is able to restore order there and reconcile the peoples. the issue of karabakh today it is only on the information agenda for solving problems. these allies or fellow travelers. he plays no role at all, except that attempts to show what a disaster is happening there due to the closure of lachin corridor. today everything is shifting towards the sinyuk corridor. there, my colleagues correctly stated the interests of all states, that on the one hand, it seems like the great turan , which erdogan is trying to recreate, and on the other hand, the ears stick out from there exclusively of the british and what means has he poured into this central asia to pump resources from there? there is france and britain, they are friends, only in one case, when there is a common enemy, and this enemy is russia , where there is no friendship between britain and

france, historically there will never be today the european union is actually closed to the resources that are in the russian federation and this bottleneck, the sinyuk corridor remains, there are the interests of france, which , for its part, forms a completely different coalition and supports the army, greece and india and cyprus all got in there. you understand that if god forbid, this whole system flares up at the same time and there is also iran, which is also interested in this very corridor. this is his only exit from the black sea in order to then conduct trade relations with europe, so the problem of this sinevsky corridor is one thing: will there be a war or not? this will depend on the absence of azerbaijanis today. and it will not depend on the armenians on these players. let's show our viewers together where the sinyuksky corridor is located. that is, this is such a zone enough. yes, it is not visible and not marked on

our map. it’s under the pink one, so it’s 38-40 km, so it will limit this in this area with iran , so iran is interested in this tsenyuk corridor, if it had passed, then it would have passed five kilometers south of the border of armenia. why, in order to influence in this region, and so that its exit would not be blocked exactly there, cargo ports of georgia, armenia , and countries that are interested in the opposite. yes, on the one hand, they want to control themselves such as turkey and completely close this corridor to its possibility. to use it specifically for the armenians , vladimir, this is exactly what they are leaning towards the proposals of france, and these are the three contradictions that we are facing today we meet around a narrow corridor. these are what form the basis for what

azerbaijan is doing today: will there be a war or not? that is, he begins to slowly escalate the situation, because the anglo-saxons will not wait long for the situation to begin to escalate. you have already seen cars with an upside down letter. and yes, tactical signs that , in my opinion, have already been taught to everyone on television. they begin to concentrate their troops along the mountain of nagorno-karabakh in one direction and the second near the sinyuk corridor. for what purpose? well, on the one hand, on the one hand on the other hand, this could be just a demonstration of forces. there will be some kind of exercise and they will leave. well, in parallel they will constantly watch. what is the reaction, what is the reaction of russia, what is the reaction of france, what is the reaction of india. then the second option, which maybe they will still carry out some kind of insignificant military operation, again for this purpose with limited tasks, to again see to some kind of reaction, how

this community and the third option react . this is a blitzkrieg lightning war with the goal of capturing this corridor. why is it important quickly capturing this corridor; if it does not happen quickly , iran will definitely intervene in this war, another side to the conflict that will not tolerate interference in its affairs. and here the confrontation between iran and turkey will guarantee in this situation, but listen, they probably have their own ambitions, their own appetites. and now the iranian authorities would be able to return it back to the dkb. there is another organization. they haven't completely forgotten her yet. moreover, we conducted the exercise once again. why not, really, in my opinion? well let this be my personal opinion. why don’t you use the peacekeeping forces at the dkb in order to really block today this corridor that we are talking about with you today at work, that we are giving

this the status of an international peacekeeping operation. secondly, we show for the armenians that there is such an organization capable of defending the interests of its allies for this and thirdly, of course, ensuring all this security. that is, what we are talking about is essentially global question. yes andrey petrovich about the iranian authorities, indeed the iranian authorities would be happy if no one at all yes, that’s not flattering, the caucasus and in this case russia and iran are situational allies. well , as soon as we talk about diversifying communications, there are new projects in the region and the iranian side is again becoming more active. in addition, it is also important to note a pay attention to the video. the islamic revolutionary guard corps warned azerbaijan of the consequences of the invasion of armenian territory. let's look at this excerpt. yes iran will not tolerate any political and

island, please come together. to comment on colleagues about the military activity of azerbaijan and theirs, as they say now, what is called and a map in their hands, why they saw very subtly and very quickly saw the nature of the relations that have now developed between russia and armenia; they saw that armenia is now in fact she herself distanced herself from all these western steps of the armenian leadership. let us remind you in our short story. armenia’s turn towards the collective west has been talked about for a long time in

special role. france and the united states are playing here. it’s not for nothing that many experts call nikolo pashinyan the creation of the soros system. and if earlier yerevan tried to be an ally of moscow, now the country’s position has changed greatly. the security architecture of armenia was 99% connected with russia, including in the logic of acquiring weapons and ammunition. however , today, when russia itself needs weapons and ammunition in this situation. it is clear that even if it wanted, the russian federation could not provide for the security needs of armenia that is, this example should show us that in the field of security , being tied to only one place is in itself a strategic mistake only after the fact, when we have tasted the bitter fruits of this mistake, the first step towards this was small in scale, but quite important, as a political gesture of teaching. while russia is fighting entirely with the nato alliance in ukraine, its. the main ally in the south caucasus is training together with the us military, according to statements, these are peacekeeping exercises, in which

only 175 armenian and 85 american are involved military, but at the same time, at the beginning of the year, yerevan refused to conduct planned exercises on the dcs on its territory as well , armenia did not take part in the maneuvers of organizing the military brotherhood, which ended in belarus last week , in addition to this, the country recently recalled its representative from the organization of the decree there is no word yet on the appointment of his successor. and it is unlikely that armenia will completely allow the country to leave the csto; if armenia de jure decides to withdraw from the csto, this will happen after yerevan records that yes, koby has left for armenia, i would not say that the issue has been removed from the agenda, not excluding that armenia may decide to suspend or freeze membership in the csto. another step towards the west was the decision of the armenian government to ratify the rome statute of the muses against the backdrop of illegal orders for russian hands. including vladimir putin in yerevan they stated that the statute is fully consistent with the basic

law of the republic, this decision is final. in addition, the possible withdrawal of armenia from the csto and the european union or the undermining of these unions from within a great way for the us to identify an ally of russia . however, there is no certainty that the west will ultimately help armenia and the degree of influence of the armenian communities is much greater than the degree of influence. actually, for the leadership of armenia, of course, there is nothing good in the fact that an aggressive nato country is trying to penetrate the transcaucasus. we don’t see it, and i don’t think that this is good for anyone, including for armenia itself, no matter where the americans appear. they know, they have hundreds of bases all over the world, nowhere, this does not lead to good. some analysts say that the curtseys yerevan towards the west, they are provoked by disappointment in russia ’s readiness to defend its interests, and in armenia in moscow

they are told that everything is the other way around: cause and effect must be considered in the opposite order, who is right, in your opinion. these are related to structures. after soros, the same pashinyan and his elite pushed moscow away from themselves, or the kremlin itself decided that it was more profitable for it to be above the fray and be friends. and with the same baku, how to enter again. here , at all times, russia supported almost all actions, and the armenian manuals. this is the tragedy of armenia. is it really not clear that armenia is being used as a russophobic card now? don’t they understand that there are no interests of armenia in one form or another? well, that's just not the case here . completely different problems get in the way; unfortunately, in armenia there were no leaders who, at the right moment, would take a machine gun in their hands, gather fighters around them, so to speak, and go to defend. so to speak, such a person considers the interests of his people. there is

andrey petrovich yes, to a very large extent. this is what is happening now, so to speak, a lot of people. here in belarus , look what could have happened. that's when there is indecision, so to speak. and by the way, andrei petrovich, why am i turning to you because there is no way to reconcile the opposing sides of any conflict, we are talking about ukraine today. she always tries in gorno-karabakh leader of the republic of belarus alexander lukashenko let's hear his direct speech right now. and armenians are relatives. it's like two fingers on one hand. and do whatever you want with it, and now everything has become more complicated. we cannot look calmly when we have dkb in the space. conflicts, they must be resolved , you cannot avoid them, they are complex. these are our brothers there, we lived in the same state, so they need to be resolved, for god’s sake don’t quarrel with each other, that there will be

an opportunity to quarrel with many many people. you see how they are trying to separate us, i won’t create conflict. it's really. this is the key task of today’s west andrei petrovich, the final word on today’s program is for you and yuri, the head of state, as always, he can clearly, succinctly and concisely explain any situation. i think more. it would probably be quite difficult to say meaningful words in this situation. well, what are we , is the russian federation, as our closest ally and as the main player in the region , now in the most difficult situation? this is a situation in which russia will be forced to sacrifice something in any case. look, i am sure that there will be so many provocations ahead, related specifically to the involvement of russia, to show that russia does not react in any way in its region

and does not act in the same way as a superpower state could act. and even further you will wait for some kind of security council, you will definitely need to vote. are you for the beautiful or the smart? yes, as usual, they like to imagine this and russia will be forced to. if you vote against any of the countries , as the head of state spoke about, then it means against either the armenians or the azerbaijanis, if you are dealing with the aggravation in kosovo and these are all painful points and the western ones will do this accents, so i want to say, what we said is that there are some cards there. decomposed and so on. yes, there is this deck of cards, the trump card, the ace, there is no doubt that russia is in whose hands this ace of trump cards ends up, or on whose side this trump card ends up, he will win, it’s not for nothing that erdogan bullets flew to moscow to meet with the head of state. i very much

doubt that anyone cares about the grain deal. thank you yuri, please have the final word on today's program. literally two points. the first largest embassy to date exists in armenia the united states of america among all other cis states, that is, the state of the former soviet republics of the former soviet union, i do not rule out that the largest network is an agent of the central deployment control. also valid in this country. thank you very much to all the participants in today’s program, and in conclusion, of all the wars , i will say those that are based on ethnic religious contradictions. they are the most terrible, and in this sense, the conflict in ukraine is much easier to resolve even than the karabakh issue; there, the success of one people means leaving this the territory of all representatives of another and no other option is not yet visible, but in the end

, borders are more important in people's lives. and not only is it scrambling. thank you this. program sas is authorized to declare to the west that a new round of the conflict around karabakh is beneficial

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