we are working on this topic with district executive committees and other public organizations, but because, well, the task is quite complicated, i want to say that in order to ensure. eh, this figure even for 2025 is 64%, but we need to fulfill it. well, partial separate collection will not work without this. what does partial mean, that is, now we see containers containing municipal solid waste, plastic separately, paper separately, glass separately. this is the same partially yes today, uh, we have containers for mixed waste and there are containers for mixed temporary material resources, that is, paper , plastic, and so on. and note that the export

, uh, is carried out separately of these containers of mixed mmr and mixed ones per capita will put their packages in these containers. that is, where the sorting should happen is that they throw it badly. something is being sorted, and it happens, uh, separately mixed waste. naturally, we can extract less smr from them, because organic matter is a strong pollutant. uh, those that are collected separately, like extinct, but even if uh there someone didn’t give birth, and someone abandoned something, it’s much easier to sort, and if in the first case the yield in mmr is conditionally 10%, then in the second it’s 30

and 50%, and these are completely different things, that’s why i say that sorting should occur at the apartment level. we will come to this sooner or later, which means there is not enough social advertising, not enough conversations at all on this topic. how do you think in the public field? why is it on television, there are some advertisements and commercials on this topic. there is even a slogan: our name is they and note why should we sort waste? well, somehow that's all. well, it’s not shaky, nor a pity, but you can do a lot and it won’t be enough , you can do even more. and it won't be enough. there are also funds behind all this, but i believe that you need to accept the system once and invest. eh, a necessary remedy. and it will work. i am absolutely sure that we will have our own, belarusian way in terms of separate collection. uh system

organization. we will use this better, but it will definitely be our own. uh, second. i definitely am i know that our population is ready for this. i will not make a discovery when i say that today there are several billion tons of plastic waste in the world. eh, they are turning into floating islands somewhere. and somewhere around us they are transforming. in microplastics, which circulate through us and through everything, therefore , plastic is a problem other waste. this is also a problem, therefore, well, let’s remember the middle ages, when, uh, super epidemics and plague and cholera began. this was also connected with uh with waste from the state of the city

the communal environment already existed in cities. so, uh, large, yes, and people took their heads in their hands and made certain decisions, therefore, we have to do the same thing and nothing new is given, because there is a responsibility both to ourselves, to us and to the future. that is, these are small words. is this about motives? yes, that is, not very serious environmental ones. yes, but there are economic ones. you know , such a common phrase today is that income should be turned, uh, waste into income. yeah, well, she's absolutely fair because it's really available today, we're uh, calling waste, by the way, can no longer be considered garbage. uh, this is waste that we need to convert into secondary material resources. and what does this container of mixed

waste look like today? there is, uh, up to forty percent of organic waste, approximately 30% of this is uh , well, the so-called difficult, identifiable and difficult to recycle waste, and another 30% of this mmr, which is very easily recycled, glass and plastic. uh, paper and stuff. well, that’s why today the issue with this part has been resolved. well, 30-33%, that’s it, and the other two parts. they are of course connected, including with e, involving and science of scientific research. eh, but separate collection. eh, it’s still at the forefront here, because we can’t, but we can’t. it ’s easy to separate these three components in order to work with them. and this must be done. we 'll take a break now. after a short pause

, we will return to this studio again, while subscribe to our telegram channel. that's what it 's called. say don't be silent all our releases. look on the belarusian youtube channel for 1 director of the institute of housing and communal services of the national academy of sciences, vadim v since january 2021, belarus has introduced a ban on the use of a certain list of plastic utensils in public catering establishments and it has been done. this was within the framework of the resolution of the council of ministers, and a gradual reduction in the use of polymer packaging. well, let's say, let's say from plastic plastic bags. in principle, you can refuse by replacing them. well, for the same paper ones, or biodegradable ones, but with plastic packaging, not everything is as simple as it seems to me. that is , it’s quite problematic to refuse and replace it with something.

well, this is what the resolution is talking about, that is, a gradual reduction in areas where we, uh, cannot give up today; we should not refuse to eat certain products. there are certain products. this must be admitted. uh, but there is room for reduction. uh, the use of plastic packaging, including plastic packaging in general, about 50% is taken up by packaging containers, but in general, uh, plastic. well, for starters, at least refuse. from using a huge number of free these packages, as for me, for example, store. uh, the seller says, so take the bag. fold this separately. and why are you adding everything up? b one says, i don’t need that. one is enough for me. so this is a free argument. that is, here too, probably the mentality needs to change a little. what does free mean? here at

the cashier level, i would already suggest offering paper bags. and for some reason, as we know, the director of paper bag production was our guest. he can't get through to large stores so that they want to switch from plastic bags to they don't want paper. and i believe that there is, uh, a set of measures both from above and from below, firstly, and the transition to biodegradable packaging involves the creation of production for biodegradable packaging. and this will just allow us to replace it. so it will be able to replace the uh classic packaging in the part that remains. yes, and another set of measures from below is us consumers. uh, i think that we, uh, if we take 100%, uh, of our use of, let’s say, uh,

plastic, then today. we can definitely refuse 10%. right from the hypermarket. as they say and what are the benefits this will benefit obviously this reduction. e waste. uh, plastic. today we have 280,000 tons, eh? half of it is plastic waste, 140,000 tons - this is just packaging. this is exactly in the global volume, uh, a good drop, that is, 10% we can already refuse the excess amount of these packages. this is available for the next 10%, we can replace it with paper packaging, and in this regard , the manufacturers of these products are absolutely right today with paper packaging packaging for the next 10-20% we can replace it in the near future time. i hope the packaging is bio degradable and will remain 50%. here is 50% we are already switching to

non-plastic. and where we cannot. well, for now we'll use it. here, give examples. this is where the objective ones cannot be refused, well, everyday examples, listen, if we buy, for example, herring. in the supermarket today, well, a paper bag probably can’t replace it. remember the glorious soviet times, when there was such a clever piece of paper that well preserved the herring and its buyer from both smell and so that it begins to deteriorate, and today they put them in bags. it seems to me that this is all bad for food and for the person who eats from bags, well, this is at the present stage, and tomorrow , probably, and by the way, my colleagues, scientists from the institute of chemistry of new materials, will probably be offended by me and inorganic chemistry in general, because they have developed new types of heat-resistant paper and

so on, which , in my opinion, can withstand herring, so there are already such developments. here we are talking about the same thing as this task. i was just putting the president on this, uh, before there was a corresponding resolution of the council of ministers for phased care and no one canceled this task. we must who should move? well, to be honest, sometimes i’m taken aback by how much garbage there is. yes, in a day, well, just look in the office or at home. how many plastic bags of all kinds do you throw in the trash? i even told my son that we are not a family, but a garbage factory. this is absolutely, and really very scary for the future. planet for me personally. i'll tell you one more problem, which is, well, it is already well known to specialists. one way or another, we already use biodegradable packaging bags, and they will continue to come, but they also need to be collected separately, because when mixed, for example, with

polyethylene, they will not allow it. eh, this waste of polyethylene will be. uh in mmm. this is a pollutant. that is, it should be here too, but this is not an obstacle. these are biodegradable bags. which container should i throw it in? and accordingly, not into paper or glass, that is, into ordinary waste. today there are some biodegradable ones, and they are called biocompostable, and we uh suggest that the organic part of the waste. we will collect separately. uh, so that it ’s collected, uh, in a separate bucket and in a biocompostable bag, and this bag , along with organic waste cleaning, can all go straight to composting. this is a serious advantage, and he will no longer mix with the police, living in the city center. where will i go with this bag to give it for

composting? this is about the next stage, when we will have complete separation. here we are, as residents, we are still saratniks in terms of housing and communal services. yes, here we are. uh, help me simulate this uh situation. which will allow uh, well, to get closer to separate collection. let's take, for example, a housing cooperative with two entrances. i live in the same building. you are in something else. how can we convince residents to sort it out separately, waste first of all, encouraged? i know in japan how they came and it’s just that i studied this experience and encouraged them. that is, these were some kind of bonuses in stores. so, that is, they showed, they filmed a video there, that they collect separately garbage. that is, they were given discounts. well, here, it seems to me, there is a material incentive at all times. he was and will remain a realist himself

working. yes, so as not to delay our training. uh, i'll tell you. i’ll just express this idea of ​​​​an attack, there are already startups , for example in russia. why about the residential complex? well, because here we are, the management there. you are the director of the sec. we go to the residents and, for example, say, let’s collect them separately. why, it will be better this way. well, the same story begins. now look, we are coming, and you correctly said this is an economic symbol. we say, let’s hire one person who will collect in mmr, let’s hire it inexpensively, because he will service several of the same spk. well, it’s inexpensive, but it will provide separate collection and a means that we will get from our uh, here we take out the waste. yes, they will come to us so that you want a

video surveillance camera you want to install. eh, some smart things there, we won’t stop, the barrier is something else. yes, we want everything. you agree, everyone has signed up and will implement it today. this person is part of zhspk can be a procurer. and according to today’s legislation, he has the opportunity to collect everything separately from this house and the residents.