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honestly, more openly shaping the worldview, because otherwise we will not fulfill our main task; television should educate, and not just inform. and in the twentieth year, when it happened , it was necessary for it to happen in order to bring the interests of their country in this regard. it seems to me that there was no such interaction as there is now between channels. never. they began to logically complement each other with political broadcasting, then the country obviously lacks an information channel about this too it was said several years ago, including at the level of the head of state, that we have not abandoned this idea. it is now at a very serious stage of implementation; on average, the share of tv channel belarus 1 is seven-eight. sometimes there is nine percent, then 24-25% share all before the live broadcast. so there are about a million belarusians in the bathhouse. they turn it on every day.
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degrees look at what we produce about 2.5 million subscribers we have on all platforms. let’s take the youtube channel of a television news agency. he has already surpassed the million subscriber mark and has a reach of about 5 million, users weekly. trust me. i know the plans of ours and of my colleagues - this is just the beginning; in the near future , television will change. naimana doesn’t want to stop running and let it rain. the leaves are whispering, the sun is shining , the berries are shaping our lives. i would like to look at this world differently. and every
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day she discovers something new for herself . because we cut it out of love. with love to belarus
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review of the most important sporting events new head coach of the national team carlos alas ferer called the expansion of such players for the september qualification of the european championship 2024: two gold, silver and three bronze - this is the result of the belarusian wrestlers at the world youth championship, which jordan hosted an exclusive interview with the athletes. tell me, you repeated and surpassed this result of 1092 in the training process, but i was ready to show faster than a second there in athens yes, if it had been one race not four bright moments and real emotions came to honor the spanish women's team which won only a positive impression one of the most spectacular one of the most exciting sports sports projects on the belarus 24 tv channel
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. hello, on the air of the program sasha
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is authorized to declare and i am the presenter nadezhda sas . greetings, let me remind you. this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening and understand how these processes , events and people will affect the side and life of everyone in today's program. let's try to answer the question. will there be a new war for karabakh? but first, we’ll tell you about the main in the events of world politics this week , the president of equatorial guinea, teodora bianca geome basoga, made a successful visit to the republic of belarus during negotiations alexander lukashenko imbasuga. we discussed the development of cooperation between the two countries in the field of industrialization of agriculture, energy and education . equatorial guinea over the past decades, thanks to its large oil reserves , has reached fourth place in africa in terms of gdp per capita . the country, rich in petrodollars, is interested in the belarusian agricultural sector. products.
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and tractors, trucks and other engineering products the leader of equatorial guinea asked alexander lukashenko to hold a mutual opening of embassies, which would make this country an entry point for belarus into the promising region of central africa, which in the southern part of the black continent the country of zimbabwesit for minsk became the leader of the dprk in russia showed the growing role of pyongyang on the international stage, having arrived in the amur region on his famous armored train, kim jong-un, together with vladimir putin, visited vostochny cosmodrome and then held negotiations as part of delegations and in a tete-a-tete format on the eve of the visit. the western press was full of publications that the dprk intends to sell russia large volumes of ammunition for multiple launch rocket systems and ballistic missiles, allegedly. these questions. this was recently raised during the trip of the russian ministry of defense delegation to pyongyang and should now be agreed upon at the level of kim and putin based on the results. the russian leader made it clear that military-technical cooperation
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was among the topics discussed, and his remark the fact that although russia is a self-sufficient country, the two states have opportunities for cooperation in the military-technical sphere was assessed. as a confirmation of previously discussed versions about the dprk’s readiness to support moscow in the context of its own in ukraine, the global south for the first time forced the political west to make noticeable concessions. this conclusion is prompted by the results of the g20 summit in new delhi, where in the final declaration the us and the eu failed to defend the clause condemning russia’s actions in ukraine in the final document of last year’s summit. in bali there was such an imprisonment this time; india, as the host party, made great efforts to ensure that the issue of ukraine did not lead to an open split between the participants themselves, and many in the west succeeded in this. we saw hints of washington and brussels’ readiness to turn the ukrainian page and discuss with new economic
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leaders from asia, africa and latin america those topics on which a compromise can be reached , from combating global warming to countering new pandemics at the g20 summit showed that the west was unable to draw most of humanity into the anti-russian coalition and is finally ready to admit the harmfulness of further attempts for its own key interests. and as we begin our program, i would like to note that the well-known word karabakh, translated from turkic, means black garden; armenians prefer to call this territory artsakh after the province of ancient great armenia between these two words from a linguistic point of view. there is nothing in common, as in a decade there is almost no mutual hostility left there is nothing in common between the azerbaijani and armenian peoples and, probably, that is why they are trying to solve the karabakh problem only by force of arms. and if there is a chance for a peaceful settlement or we will soon become
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witnesses of the third karabakh war, this will be discussed in today’s program. i am glad to welcome andrei petrovich almsman to our studio. deputy head of the faculty of the general staff of the armed forces of belarus, candidate of military sciences. hello rafael nikitovich ardukhanyan political scientist doctor of political sciences journalists from russia are with us today. well, we're going by tradition. we begin our discussion with a quick question, which i address to each guest in our studio. how likely is a new large-scale clash between armenia and azerbaijan andrey petrovich please, redivision of the world, changing spheres, influence , liberation of deviant dependence necessarily leads to the fact that some hot phases are taking place. today we obviously see all over the world. uh, in general, the intensity of passions and the expansion of the armed conflict that is going on today in ukraine. that is, we
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we see what is happening in africa we see what is happening today or what the event is leading to today in the transcaucasus, questions that can arise at any time in central asia or, for example, with taiwan, that is, all these areas - they are, as it were, all these regions, today they are on the threshold of some kind of hot phase. we are all constantly waiting for something. can we talk, a more detailed quick question from us? yes please, hotelnikevich. how likely is another new wave, and mutual claims that develop into yes? military confrontation clash. you know the events that are now taking place in armenia, they worry me very much. the last word will be said by the people of the fathers and the people of armenia. i sincerely. i hope this is what yuri dudkin , ukrainian military experts, sees. analyst joined our broadcast yuri thank you for talking to us about a new round, but quite
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the confrontation that we are seeing in nagorno-karabakh how likely is a new large-scale clash between armenia and azerbaijan in your opinion. good afternoon nadezhda good afternoon guests in the studio this is the topic back in the early nineties and only thanks to the wise policy of the azerbaijani leadership at that time, led by heydar aliyev. and by the way, the armenian leadership in recent years before the so-called maidan in yerevan, namely serge sargsyan, managed to localize these contradictions, these armed conflicts, which were already at that time. eh, entailed. uh, colossal sacrifices on the part of both armenia and azerbaijan on the territory of nagorno-karabakh, it must be said that following the example of, for example, nagorno-karabakh
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karabakh, which certainly existed back in soviet times, as an autonomous region with the rights of a union republic. the same region, for example, existed in tajikistan , the badakhshan mountain autonomous region, and yet. there also arise almost every year, some kind of inter-ethnic contradictions, which the government of tajikistan, led by president emomali rahmon , tries through wise policies to avoid this intensity of this armed conflict, which the current armenian leadership entirely. i emphasize subordinated to, uh, an external curator, namely a quarrel, namely the united states, namely with the depot. by the way, armenia is a member of the csto. i have never participated in
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military exercises or joint military exercises of the csto. this also says a lot, lately . yes, yuri, i want to focus on this. andrey petrovich already exists today, and the likelihood is that armenia will recover from the accident or even the russian federation will try to change the republic of belarus. and the mood in society. although, maybe you can correct me, to what extent society supports the chosen course of mr. deep, unfortunately. this is also a question that, let’s say, is a sore point. i'm still sincere. i hope that the armenian public will wake up and see. what a pit these sorosyatniks are dragging into, as my colleague from ukraine quite rightly said . i hope that at the last moment we will be able to stop, as was done in russia at one time and as it was done, in fact. for and here, but for this we need a leader who will lead yes andrey petrovich
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returning to my question, operational-strategic combat exercise, brotherhood, which took place at our place, well, so it was a surprise that they would not come to us. the armenians were not yuri was absolutely right in noticing that the exercise that is being conducted today is a partner oryol or a partner la-2023 by and large. it, of course, has no global significance; 85 armenians, 85 us military personnel, 175 armenian military personnel are involved there, and in essence, well, the teachings seem to have such an ordinary peacekeeping character, but when and in under what conditions were these exercises carried out? refusal to conduct joint exercises; withdrawal from the organization of the collective security treaty of one’s representative, and essentially the beginning of curtailing its activities within the framework of the collective security treaty; how should all this be treated in relation to all activities? i often encounter with military personnel from both armenia and azerbaijan
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, and i want to say that the armenian military personnel are very well trained ; they have an excellent military school. well, what distinguishes, for example, the azerbaijani military their perseverance and ability to master everything new , let’s pay attention to the screen, we have prepared a wonderful infographic, we have compared the war potential of the army and azerbaijan , please well, that’s just it, if we talk about comparison, armenia of azerbaijan that is, if we, and we were all witnesses, well, informational, of course, by witnesses of the forty-four-day war. we saw all these systems and we can state the fact that 70-80% of them were based on systems either soviet-made or russian production, but in fact, for all main types of weapons systems, of course,
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azerbaijan took place. and especially in terms of quality. if we are talking, for example, about airplanes, then there are t-90 tanks, if we are talking about batkh, there are already 82 tanks. unfortunately, armenia could not boast of this, why did it calmly rest on the laurels of victory in the first karabakh war , so for some reason i didn’t find the latest developments in these systems. and those that had systems and could change. it’s like su-30 cm aircraft, it’s like systems. uh, like that like iskander, they simply were not used. and if we talk about the possibilities of today’s confrontation between azerbaijan and armenia , we can look at the gdp. well, the gdp of azerbaijan is striving for five percent and has not yet reached five percent of the military gdp of armenia . azerbaijan is a little more than 5%. well, in absolute numbers, if you look, azerbaijan invests approximately 2.5 times more
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in its armed forces and in addition, the military military reserve, that is, the mobilization reserve of azerbaijan significantly exceeds the mobilization army reserve. today, which path did you take , you see that nikol pashinyan stated that there are allies who do not fulfill their obligations to supply weapons and an agreement is being concluded in armenia. 400 million dollars for arms supplies from india, whatever goes there, goes there. uh, multiple launch rocket systems go there, artillery systems go there, various anti-aircraft systems go there, that is, quite a large amount of funds actually goes there from india, it becomes, in fact, the main partner of the military, all of this of course, deliveries are carried out through iran for its part, of course. this is not displayed anywhere. because iran acts as a rogue country in
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the international arena. well, i’m sure that iran is also carrying out activities there, accordingly andrei petrovich that we have been hearing from mr. pashinyan lately that they need to protect national sovereignty and national interests, but if they don’t have their own resources, then they are ready to provide this opportunity protect them by another state. here we are already talking we understand perfectly well that this is not about the russian federation. here, of course, first of all, the question is about the problems of the senyuksky dagursky corridor, as it is also called, attention to the map, please, colleagues. you see, the problem is to draw in third -party players and pashin’s people, playing in this international arena, trying to draw in third-party players in the caucasus, there are those states that are permanently located that are interested in stability. this is a formula that is often said 3 + 3, this is a strange transcaucasian one.
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and the russian federation, turkey and iran , besides these countries, by and large, no one there can play this card, but i think they won’t be able to, but pashinyan is trying to drag the anglo-saxons in there and other players are trying to get involved. let's talk about other players, let's talk in more detail. i see that nikola merkovich, the head of a non- governmental organization, joined our broadcast. west-east, mister, yarkovich, mister merkovich. i am glad to see you on our television program, thank you. thank you for your invitation, mr. mirkovic. 2 reads that they are friends. ahh. western friends should be armenia's most important allies. why does paris so consistently support yerevan? i assume that they want to seem like this,
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but in reality we have to turn to something a little different. just like in the middle ages, when armenia had strong ties with such strange ones, where the strong armenian diasporas are located now, historically there are very strong ties between armenia and other strange ones. it was like that until today . however. i believe that it is necessary to understand how far the friends of armenia are ready to go in helping her, we did not hear that they condemned what was happening in northern karabakh or fatherland. the president of turkey spoke about terrorists, he described azerbaijan in these words in their fight against armenia , the french senate adopted a resolution recognizing the independence of karabakh but that
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’s all, that is, there. it’s just that some voices are some kind of political marketing, but friends should probably help armenia, for example, send an army or do something similar, this is what brotherhood between friends should look like. i would say that there should be a military intervention for peaceful reasons. we also observe that there is quite a strong friendship . however, we do not observe any strong support. please stay with us. well, based on the answers. uh, mr. mikovich, how far can armenia’s allies go today in protecting its interests. and in general, who are these allies
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of allies? this is a bluff that has been selling for several years now. what allies? who will fight for them, france will fight, england will fight when there was a genocide of the armenian people in 1915, all these countries stood aside and watched as millions of, so to speak, armenians were slaughtered, they were killed, and so on, a finger was not struck, except for some people there who raised their voices in the press there are everywhere, so to speak noticed this. really, history doesn’t teach us anything, the only guarantor of its integrity is armenia. it has always been russia, it has always been russia. i am fine and the same attitude, by the way, was also feeding. now these conversations that russia has abandoned mobilization have not been announced, armenia did not declare war, armenia did not recognize karabakh. and what kind of support did they talk about? if armenia does not recognize this territory and invades this territory, azerbaijan. and who do they want at that moment when they were sitting on the streets of yerevan and
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drinking coffee? they wanted, so that the russian soldiers would give their lives there? as they say, i’m not talking about those several thousand guys who died, who volunteered to defend, but the armenian army even what you showed here, in which there is twice less than the azerbaijani usa, it didn’t even come forward and didn’t help; they lost the city of shushi . it’s on whose conscience everything is, therefore, in this situation, talk about any of these things. this is simply ridiculous, armenia is now at the crossroads of geopolitical passions that are playing out in the region. now a west-east axis, the turanian corridor, is being created. turkey is trying. and turkey what is turkey on the other side of the transfer case? where does the anglo-sak connect? instantly, to enter central asia this corridor, and now compare with the axis that brig creates - this is the south north axis and it also passes through the caucasus right here, so pashinyan doesn’t even understand.
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what kind of game is he getting into? despite the fact that the next karabakh war ended in 2020, the process of conflict resolution continues to this day. in addition , armed clashes occur from time to time on the border of armenia and azerbaijan, which aggravate the contradictions and move away from the signing of a peaceful agreement, the situation is unclear, as with the lachin road, connecting the armenians living in karabakh from the territory of armenia and the zangezur corridor, which was supposed to connect the azerbaijani expulsion. nakhichevan with azerbaijan and at the same time problems in the south caucasus are beneficial, perhaps, only to one country and the wound, which is against the backdrop of another escalation. the conflict is trying to restore. its historical significance in the region, but what should i note for the last 3 years, armenia and azerbaijan are trying to sign a peace treaty, the result of which should be recognition of each other’s territorial integrity and at the same time, armenia apparently accepted the fact that azerbaijan would sooner or later
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gain control over the entire territory of nagorno-karabakh, so the government agreed to accept the conditions of the president of the neighboring side, el ham aliyev, but about a new stage of aggravation of the conflict. still , in more detail, we will tell you in our short story , 3 years after the war in nagorno-karabakh , a new stage of armed confrontation may begin, starting in 2020. after the so-called victory of azerbaijan, local armenians were supposed to receive citizenship country or leave for armenia because with the full return of nagorno-karabakh to azerbaijan, they will not have the right to stay there without receiving citizenship. however, in 3 years the peace treaty has been close. he did not participate in three negotiation platforms, and moscow, brussels and washington, on the other hand, could not come to an agreement, armenia demands an international mechanism to guarantee the rights of armenians, azerbaijan considers it unacceptable for some kind of international mechanism to operate on its sovereign territory. at the same time, endure gray zone the country's leadership no longer has the strength,
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baku really has the strength. there is a chance to solve the nagorno-karabakh problem once and for all , primarily by force. azerbaijan surpasses armenia in military and economic power. nagorno-karabakh is recognized by all participants in international relations as part of azerbaijan . in addition, the united states and the eu need azerbaijan as a reliable supplier of energy resources, so quarreling with it and imposing sanctions is dangerous and not at all necessary, experts. yerevan is increasingly accused of not understanding the real agendas. now, armenia is trying to look for allies. everywhere, somewhere not very successful , somewhere belated, somewhere inadequate. from a logical point of view, that only adds points to azerbaijan. at this time, the number of border incidents is growing; accusations constantly appear that armenia is shelling azerbaijan; in parallel, transport planes with weapons are flying from israel no longer even to baku. and closer to the border there is evidence of
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the conscription of reservists for military service. the situation is further aggravated by humanitarian crisis, but a way to solve the tense situation. not yet yuri in your opinion. what could be the ways to resolve this situation, because based on our story we understand that mutual claims were growing and again the question is how to behave armenia because in the twentieth year it seemed that this issue had been resolved, but again the powder keg reminds to yourself. well, that's right, my colleagues noticed. indeed, until the west and especially the united states stop interfering in the internal affairs of sovereign states, including armenia, this the conflict will constantly hang in the air. i will tell you one case, especially concerning ukraine, how ukraine reacted to the last second, and
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second, armenian-azerbaijani conflict. it’s very short. nadezhda means, uh, in 2020 i was invited to one of akhmetov’s tv channels in kiev, where we discussed general current problems in the donbass. it would seem that i was invited. for what? by the way, i was very surprised, as a military expert. so, being in the studio for only an hour, at that moment terrible military clashes began between azerbaijan by the azerbaijani army and the armenian army. back then, of course, the armies of nagorno-karabakh were also connected to the studio on skype, as i am today, former ukrainian official gavrish and former general of the ukrainian armed forces romanenko, you can’t imagine. with what ecstasy they spewed out russophobia and said that, finally, russia will be obliged to intervene.
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she will get bogged down in this conflict, which plays into our hands, but they didn’t mind that they were going on a colossal killing of armenians, primarily in nagorno -karabakh because they are compact there live they didn’t care about what was real. uh, turkey has a colossal influence on this region, including uh, azerbaijan. there is a colossal turkish lobby in azerbaijan, they didn’t care about anything. this is the principle of the ukrainians. karabakh reacts to the armed conflict as you know to that neighbor’s house that is burning and the more it flares up. the more it sets fire to its neighbors, the ukrainians, especially the ukrainian authorities. i’m not talking for ukrainians in the ranks, but for ukrainians in the ranks, this is power for ukrainian authorities. i finish doing what i wanted anger literally, please, yes,
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two words. eh, that’s right, my colleagues said, that today is the only way out. this is the reason for the temporary presence of peacekeeping forces on the territory of russian peacekeeping forces on the territory of nagorno -karabakh without these peacekeeping forces without the conspiracy of pashinyan’s four leaders. eh, aliyev erdogan and putin there is no talk of any peace in the future. yuri thank you very much, you remembered turkey. i would like to talk about its positioning in the current fight today mr. merkovic inches mr. mirkovic, do you think that turkey currently remains a reliable nato ally or does it actually occupy an intermediate position between the west and russia
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? turkey is, of course, trying to benefit from both worlds . we believe that moscow, washington and brussels are trying to find some kind of middle ground between their own interests. many countries are buying nuclear weapons from russia to ukraine, all pursuing their own interests. they want their own position, as well as turkey's position near the caspian sea, as well as in the global network. as well as the opposition to turkey in north african countries, as for armenia and azerbaijan , we believe that turkey is helping azerbaijan. they defend the position of a secret country, they sent
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weapons to azerbaijan. there is uh france. i believe that france should protect armenia, this is what they said, however, in fact, it turns out that they are helping azerbaijan much more and it turns out that turkey is a neighbor of these countries and ankara has much more historical connections with azerbaijan, for sure. they will seek to negotiate with russia and will try to take a stronger position. i don't think moscow will be ready to accept this. we must also take into account
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the g20. the caucasus and the mediterranean are all these different places in the world where the balance of power is changing. i would like to point out that consensus is missing from this situation. ankara will certainly seek to pursue its own interests. he will definitely negotiate with moscow. they will discuss something related to the caucasus at these negotiations, however, most likely, in the end they will strive for a middle ground. and at the same time, it is better to extract from both sides, both the west and the east. mr. mirkovic, thank you, i want to increase my gratitude to you for your participation in this program. thank you. rafaelniki can’t help but draw attention to your comment , which was made during the response of our
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french expert. when you emphasized that france must defend armenia. yes, you emphasized and clarified that yes, probably the same way france defends africa today, it defends it. how she resisted. eh, so to speak, the genocide in rwanda, although the troops. we were there and saw how the uh french troops behaved. and then let france help itself. this will be very good. now, as for turkey’s position, 100% support for azerbaijan, the thesis of one nation, two countries, no one left and verbalized, so to speak, that the step was taken in due time and naturally, erdogan says this, so here we should not have any doubts, so to speak, that's why occasion, turkey is trying to restore the imperial thinking of the phantom. empire they are alive and not only, by the way, turkey is also wounded, and all the time the imperial country of turkey solves other problems. once again i want to emphasize iran and turkey they are solving their problems, i’ll tell you even, maybe a little more turkey, in
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principle, is now using azerbaijan as an achievement of this turanian great turanian project and azerbaijan, from my point of view , is now only interested in turkey that's why this whole low corridor they want break through. this is not a corridor between azerbaijan and nakhichevan, as many azerbaijani politicians, including president aliyev, think, this is a corridor that will connect the ankara port with central asia . there is an exit there. the ground is being prepared there, a colossal number of american and turkish ngos are working there, in kazakhstan and uzbekistan and kyrgyzstan everywhere. there they are. turkey thinks that it is solving its own project, as they say. the turan corridor, but the fact is that she doesn’t see what’s behind her there are completely different anglo-saxon and nato forces that will join somewhere in the bolgar region of the greek-turkish border. they will connect to this corridor and not turkish interests will go there to central asia and further closer to the chinese border, but the interests
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of the anglo-saxons and nato will be the same corridor that this dream will pass through. nato was going to bypass this territory from the south - this is iran to the north - this is russia and only this corridor will connect strategically. this is yuri yuri, over to you. now i have literally two words in support of rafael and uh merkovich, of course, your guest is a holy man. he naively believes that france will stand up for armenia. let the lord from france remember how they stood up for the flood, where is mother, when figs sacrificed at one time. and sarkozy’s election campaign cost 5 million dollars, and sarcastically the time of conflicts of cia interference in the affairs of libya van villos back uh gaddafi, this is a vivid example that france follows and it
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sets this example, and the example for the rest is for the west, except for their own interests. eh, nothing can happen, about any conscience, neither there can be no talk of any kind of diplomacy yuri thank you very much for your historical excursion for us and for our viewers. they came from different parts of the world, and i recognized belarus then. it's not enough to say. considering what i now already know, it’s probably not enough to say anything already, my second and everyone found something here for themselves and belarus, that the memory of the great victory and of all those who i here forged this victory, forged here i holyly honor i found a lot. friends, i will soon return to
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china, but belarus will always remain in my heart, each hero has his own unique, history and their view of belarus here is an audience of dear urians. i really appreciate his art. i want to pass how famous he is, and the musicians have convinced themselves that it’s a wonderful country where wonderful people live, kind , sympathetic, tolerant crayfish, my dear, watch on the belarus 24 tv channel . humanity will not survive the advent of artificial intelligence, because the very concept of man will change forever. we
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already see a future in which such a concept as a country, a community, a collective , a family, it is absent pseudo-civilized world today. they close the border from everything traditional from all those values ​​that we are now positioning with the strange east , making it worse only for ourselves so that you understand, uh, modernity and must definitely understand the past to read it. e and , accordingly, learn from the mistakes of the past, how to avoid mistakes of the future, attach three things in life. mother cannot be betrayed. god cannot be handed over to the project. nothing personal just the truth, which is always more interesting than speculation, watch on the belarus 24 tv channel. i remind you that the program is on air, you are authorized
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to declare in today's program. we are trying to find an answer to the question. will there be a new war for karabakh? it is important to note that on september 12, speaking at the eastern economic forum , russian president vladimir putin said that the armenian authorities actually recognized the sovereignty of azerbaijan over nagorno -karabakh, i propose to hear direct speech, right now we were offering our options for a settlement and taking something... then hide. there, i think it's good. it is known that armenia controlled the semeroons. we offered uh they proposed to come to an agreement with azerbaijan in such a way that two districts or jer lachin would remain under the jurisdiction of virtually armenia and all of karabakh, but the armenian leadership did not agree with this. it's not just uh, it's about the results.
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uh, this uh, this last conflict is also due to the fact that the armenian leadership, uh, essentially, well, not essentially essentially, but recognized the sovereignty of azerbaijan over this karabakh and in its uh prague statement. eh, just got it down on paper. well, we know about it here. well, what should i tell them now? president aliyev tells me, well, you know that she recognized armenia. what about karabakh, that the question of the status of karabakh no longer stands, it was decided by the armenian leadership. she publicly stated this, counting the entire territory before 1991 within the framework of the azerbaijani ussr. and she named
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the figure that included, which included, of course, the territory of karabakh itself. this happened. this is not our decision, this is the decision of the armenian leadership today. yes, i think that uh vladimirovich refers to the meeting in kazan in kazan , the kazan meeting of president aliyev and prime minister pashinyan. i would like now especially a colleague from ukraine and a respected audience. see how this technology works, then exactly. i am deeply convinced of pashinyan. an order was given not to sign this agreement, because if an agreement had been signed preserving the sovereignty of both karabakh and the lachin corridor, we are fighting now. if you are a pashinite, then under the auspices of russia in kazan you signed these agreements aliyev was ready to go for it, then everything would be so to speak, as they say, the fruits of this victory would be in russia. the west would not allow this. and that’s why he put pressure on pashinyan not to agree with this
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interpretation in the same way as these scoundrels are now doing with ukraine, not allowing an agreement, putting forward additional conditions, and everything that is happening now. you know what else is important to note. this is a rather complex topic and it is possible to understand today the position and certain plans of the russian federation, including because it is widely believed that russia's need to focus on ukraine and everything connected with it makes it impossible for moscow to divert resources to the south caucasus and, frankly, many of the same russian experts. i am inclined to say that this is most likely not our battle, what we have today, if we are talking about post-soviet countries, but the sphere of interests of the russian federation includes ukraine , the republic of belarus, the same kazakhstan , new promising regions have appeared, such as africa and many others. that is, the battle of armenia is not beneficial for russia today or
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at least not needed. argue with this statement russia is a global player, therefore everything that happens in the world today to one degree or another will always concern russia, but nevertheless, i would like to return a little to the problem that yuri supported today precisely in the aspects of who the allies are and who are just fellow travelers who should accompany. well, at the same time , let’s rummage through the pockets of these states. this is the problem of karabakh today, this is a problem that will last forever, but it will problem, both armenians and azerbaijanis , until it appears. there is a strong player there , which was once the soviet union, which is able to restore order there and reconcile these peoples. the issue of karabakh today it is only on the information agenda for solving problems. these allies or fellow travelers. he doesn’t play any role at all, except for trying to show what kind of disaster
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is happening there due to the closure of the lachin corridor. today everything is shifting towards the svinyuksky corridor. everyone's interests are there states, my colleagues correctly said that on the one hand, it seems like the great turan , which erdogan is trying to recreate, and on the other hand, the ears stick out from there exclusively by the british and what means has he poured into this central asia to pump resources from there? there is france and britain, they are friends, only in one case, when there is a common enemy, and this enemy is russia , where there is no friendship between britain and france, historically there will never be today , the european union is actually closed to resources, which are in the russian federation and this bottleneck, the sinyuk corridor remains, there are the interests of france, which for its part forms a completely different coalition and supports armenia there, they stuck
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greece and india and cyprus all in. you understand that if god forbid, this whole system flares up at the same time and there is also iran, which is also interested in this very corridor. this is his only exit from the black sea in order to then conduct trade relations with europe, so this is sinevsky’s problem the corridor lies in one thing: will there be a war or not? this will depend on the absence of azerbaijanis today. and it will not depend on the armenians on these players. let's show our viewers together where the sinyuksky corridor is located. that is, this is such a zone enough. yes, it is not visible and not marked on our map. it goes under the pink one, so it’s 38-40 km, so it will limit this in this area with iran , so iran is also interested in the fact that this
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sinyuk corridor, if it were to pass through, then it passed five kilometers south of the border of armenia. why, in order to influence in this region, and so that its exit would not be closed to the ports of georgia, armenia , and countries that are interested in the opposite. yes, on the one hand, they want to control themselves such as turkey and completely close this corridor to its possibility. to use it specifically for the armenians , vladimir is precisely inclined towards the proposals of france and these are the three contradictions that we are faced with today around a narrow corridor. here what do they form the basis for what azerbaijan is doing today? will there be a war or not? that is, he begins to slowly escalate the situation, because the anglo-saxons will not wait long for the situation to begin to escalate. you have already seen cars with an upside down letter. and yes, tactical signs that , in my opinion, have already been taught to everyone on television.
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they begin to concentrate their troops along the mountain of nagorno-karabakh in one direction and the second near the sinyuk corridor. for what purpose? well, on the one hand, on the one hand, it could be just a demonstration strength. they will conduct some exercises there and leave. well, in parallel they will constantly watch. what is the reaction, what is the reaction of russia, what is the reaction of france, what is the reaction of india. then the second option, which maybe they will still carry out some kind of insignificant military operation, again for this purpose with limited tasks, to again see to some kind of reaction, how this community reacts and the third option. the third option is a blitzkrieg lightning war with the aim of capturing this corridor. why is it important quickly capturing this corridor; if it does not happen quickly , iran will definitely intervene in this war, another side to the conflict that will not tolerate interference in its affairs. and here the confrontation between iran and
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turkey will be guaranteed in this situation. well, listen, they probably have, yes, each of them has their own ambitions and appetites. and now the iranian authorities would be able to return it back to the dcb. there is another organization. they haven't completely forgotten her yet. moreover, we conducted the exercise once again. why not, really, in my opinion? well let this be my personal opinion. why don’t you use peacekeeping forces at the road accident in order to really block today this corridor that we are talking about with you? today we are giving this the status of an international peacekeeping operation. secondly, we show for the armenians that there is such an organization capable of defending the interests of its allies for this and thirdly, of course, ensuring all this security. that is, what we are talking about is essentially a global question. yes andrey petrovich about iranian
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authorities, indeed the iranian authorities would be happy if no one at all. but it’s not flattering, the caucasus and in this case russia iran act as situational allies. well , as soon as we talk about diversifying communications, there are new projects in the region and the iranian side is again becoming more active. in addition, it is also important to note a pay attention to the video. the islamic revolutionary guard corps warned azerbaijan of the consequences of the invasion of armenian territory. let's look at this excerpt. yes iran will not tolerate nothing about politics and the island, please comment together with
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your colleagues about military activity, azerbaijan and theirs. as they say now, what is called and the card in their hands, why they very subtly saw and very quickly saw the nature of the relations that have now developed between russia and armenia, they saw that armenia is now in fact. the most avoided all this due to the pro-western steps of the armenian leadership. let us remind you in our short story. armenia’s turn towards the collective west has already been discussed long ago for a special role. france and the united states are playing here. it’s not for nothing that many experts call nikol pashinyan the creation of the soros system. and if earlier yerevan tried to be an ally of moscow, now the country’s position has changed greatly. the security architecture of armenia was 99% connected with russia, including in the logic
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of acquiring weapons and ammunition. however , today, when russia itself needs weapons and ammunition in this situation. it is clear that even if it wanted, the russian federation could not provide for the security needs of armenia that is, this example should show us that in the field of security , being tied to only one place is in itself a strategic mistake only after the fact, when we have tasted the bitter fruits of this mistake, the first steps towards this were small in scale, but quite important, as a political gesture of teaching. while russia is fighting entirely with the nato alliance in ukraine, its. the main ally in the south caucasus is training together. with the us military, according to statements, these are peacekeeping exercises, in which only 175 armenian and 85 american military, but at the same time, at the beginning of the year, yerevan refused to conduct scheduled exercises on the dcs on its territory as well, armenia did not take part in the maneuvers of the organization of the military brotherhood, which ended in belarus last week , in addition to this, the country recently recalled
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its representative from the organization there is no decree on the appointment of his successor yet. and it is unlikely that armenia will completely allow the country to leave the csto; if armenia de jure decides to withdraw from the csto, then this will happen after how will yerevan record that the dkb has left armenia? i would not say that the issue has been removed from the agenda, not excluding that armenia may decide to suspend or freeze the membership of the gdp; another step towards the west was the decision of the armenian government to ratify the rome statute of musa against the background illegal warrants on russian leadership. including vladimir putin in yerevan, they stated that the statute is fully consistent with the basic law of the republic, this decision is final. in addition, the possible withdrawal of armenia from the csto and countering or undermining these alliances from within is a great way for the united states to knock out russia's ally . however, there is no certainty that the west will ultimately help armenia and the degree of influence of the armenian communities is much greater than
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the degree of influence. actually, for the leadership of armenia, of course, there is nothing good in the fact that an aggressive nato country is trying to penetrate into transcaucasia. we don’t see it, but i don’t think that this is good for anyone, including right up to armenia, wherever the americans appear. they know, they have hundreds of bases all over the world, nowhere, this does not lead to good. some analysts say that yerevan’s curtseys towards the west are provoked by disappointment in russia ’s readiness to defend its interests, while in armenia they are told in moscow that everything on the contrary, cause and effect must be considered in the opposite order, who is right, in your opinion. it was the same pashinyan and his elite associated with the structures of the suras who pushed moscow away from themselves, or the kremlin itself decided that it was more profitable for it to be above the fray and be friends. and with the
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same baku, how to enter again. at all times, russia practically supported the fight all actions, but of the armenian leadership. this is the tragedy of armenia. is it really not clear that armenia is being used as a russophobic card now? don’t they understand that there are no interests of armenia in one form or another? well, that's just not the case here. completely different problems are being solved; unfortunately, there was no leader in armenia who was at the right time. i would take a machine gun in my hands, gather fighters around me, so to speak, and go defend, so to speak, the interests of my people, if they don’t think so, such a person is andrey petrovich yes, to a very large extent. this is what is happening now, so to speak, a lot of people here in belarus look at what could have happened. that's when there is indecision, so to speak. and by the way, andrey petrovich, why am i turning to you because there is no way to reconcile the opposing sides of the participants in any conflict, we are talking about
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ukraine today. she always tries in gorno-karabakh leader of the republic of belarus alexander lukashenko let's hear his direct speech right now. azerbaijanis and armenians are dear ones, it’s like two fingers on one hand and do whatever you want with it, but now it’s become more complicated, we can’t calmly look at it when we have dkb in the space. conflicts, they must be resolved, you cannot avoid them, they are complex. these are our brothers there, we lived in the same state, so they need to be resolved, for god’s sake don’t quarrel with each other. we will still have the opportunity to quarrel with many, many things. you see how they are trying to separate us ; i will not conflict. it's really. this is the key task of today's west andrei petrovich has the final word on today’s program from you and from yuryevna, the head of state, as always, can clearly, succinctly and
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concisely explain any situation. i think more. it would probably be quite difficult to utter meaningful words in this situation. well , what are we, is the russian federation, as our closest ally and as the main player in the region, now in the most difficult situation? this is a situation in which russia will be forced to sacrifice something in any case. look, i'm sure there will be so many provocations related to it is precisely with the involvement of russia that it is shown that russia does not react in any way in its region and does not act in the same way as a superpower state could act. and even further you will be waiting for some kind of security council, where you will need to vote for whom for the beautiful ones? yes, as usual, they like to imagine this and russia will be forced to. if you vote against any of the countries, as the head
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of state spoke about, then it means against either the armenians or the azerbaijanis, if you are dealing with the aggravation in kosovo and these are all painful points and western ones will place emphasis on this, so i would like to say, we said here that there are some kind of maps there. spread out and so on. yes, there is this deck of cards, the trump card, the ace, there is no doubt that russia is in whose hands this ace of trump cards ends up, or on whose side this trump card ends up, he will win, it’s not for nothing that erdogan bullets flew to moscow to meet with the head of state. i very much doubt that anyone cares about the grain deal. thank you yuri, please have the final word on today's program. literally two points. the first to date in armenia there is the largest embassy of the united states of america among all other cis states, that is, the state
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of the former soviet republics of the former soviet union, i do not rule out that the largest network is an agent of a central ramified administration. also valid in this country. thank you very much to all the participants in today’s program, and in conclusion, of all the wars, i will say those that are based on ethnic religious contradictions. they are the most terrible and in this sense the conflict in ukraine is much easier to resolve even than the karabakh issue there the success of one people means the departure of all representatives of another from a given territory and no other option is yet visible, but in the end , borders are more important in people’s lives. and not only is it scrambling. thank you this. sas program is authorized to declare to the west that a new round of conflict around karabakh is beneficial

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