and no one needs to show their acceptance; this is the main principle of the work of our state and any processes taking place in our state. this is a quiet improvement of what humanity has achieved. we stand, as i said repeating the quote of the great one, on the shoulders of giants. there is no need to jump off these shoulders. we will lose everything that humanity has developed before us, we must use it for the sake of the future, so we must improve and do not hesitate to take the best of what we had, being in the neighborhood of ukraine and belarus more than anyone else, it is interested in a speedy peaceful resolution of this conflict, the minister of foreign affairs of belarus , sergei oleinik, stated this at a meeting of the un security council today, belarus is watching with great caution the growth of military potential and the arms race in our neighboring countries, the head of the ministry of foreign affairs stated that the rewrite? the basic principles

of international law for themselves and ignoring the legitimate interests of the majority of members of the world community have led to the highest degree of polarization in the world as a whole and in our region. in particular, since the end of february 22, about 120,000 ukrainian refugees arrived in belarus. this is almost one and a half percent of the population of our country. what do you think, feeling aggression from us? these people would have arrived voluntarily, belarus, the answer is obvious and logical. let me remind you that our country bears this burden on its own and instead of assistance , we only receive illegal sanctions. sergei oleinik reminded the west that it was in belarus that the minsk agreements were signed, which laid the foundation for the peace process in ukraine and a set of measures for their implementation, which received the approval of the un security council, today in minsk a meeting of the council of the international association of the academy of sciences is being held , dedicated to the thirtieth anniversary of its founding

, on the basis of the national academy of sciences of belarus , leaders and representatives of the national academy of sciences of russia, china , armenia, azerbaijan, and cuba are being held. vietnam mongolia and kyrgyzstan the meeting will summarize the work of previous years and consider the creation of new scientific councils today, the international association of the academy of sciences unites 26 organizations cooperation directions, for example the direction of agricultural science. uh, and also in the field of medicine and biotechnology, we have 26 projects that are starting now in all areas that must address the latest challenges of science. first of all, this is digitalization. this is artificial intelligence. this is the creation of smart systems. these are microelectronics circuits, chips, and so on. this is the latest development in bicycle

technology. now in the world two areas are developing most rapidly: it technologies and biotechnologies, and then genomic technologies. e, technology medicine, congratulations to people in agriculture in obtaining new varieties of plants and animal breeds in minsk, the delegation of the nizhny novgorod region of russia, consisting of more than 100 people, members of the government , deputies of representatives of various industries and departments, is ready to deepen the work. among the landmark projects, the joint production of belarusian trams, the trade turnover of belarus with this russian region at the end of last year exceeded $700 million; the eighty- sixth season is opened by the belarusian state philharmonic society tonight on the big stage a concert of the academic symphony orchestra of belarus under the direction of alexander anisimov in the program musical form in the orchestration of ravel and the entry of the russian cellist sergei aldugin, a meeting with the new

symphony season will be held as part of the concert cycle in classical music for everyone, which has been successfully going on for more than one year .

on the air of a weekly socio-political talk show, today we will talk about the economy, money and our closest ally in the studio for you kirill kazakov alen severe and our dear experts, but at the same time, you can also join our discussion. here at the bottom of the screen. you see the qr code. point your smartphone at it. and on youtube write your comment or question. we’ll try to voice it out, and here in the right corner is a link to our telegram channel, where there are more details of our behind -the-scenes life, our opinions and what remains on the air in it. hello and let's get started. last week there were two

interesting news, one of them is somehow connected. actually, with our wallet the second, as if it is not very clear, is connected with our wallet; the first, well, it became known that there is deflation in the country. let 's try to figure out what it is and roughly speaking, what is it eaten with? how will this affect our course of events? and the second is the meeting of two presidents, alexander lukashenko and, let’s take vladimirovich putin, in fact, two big topics were announced there. the first is the international situation around our border , the second topic is, well, economic cooperation. and that’s how it is for me. the main thing is the synchronicity that i saw synchronously on television, here’s a short interview that i saw from sochi, it was an interview with alexander lukashenko who said about, uh, how he sees the future year and again the main phrase, which was this, eh. i hope that we will reach the sanctions period, and everything will be

fine with us, and i understand, great, that for sure. this economic decline happened due to the fact that sanctions were imposed against us, searching for supply chains , searching for new investors, but still, well, you understand, what is the pre-sanction period? what is the sanctions period? and how will we get out of it? and kostya, i’ll start with you , a person who is competent in economics. that’s why you were in vladivostok at the economic forum. therefore, as a field reporter who works there, yes, to understand the situation. and what is the attitude towards belarusian goods, not technology, just goods in primorye? we know very well that this is a network of belarusian stores, no matter what they are called, it stretches from bryansk to vladivostok this is the first second the exhibition is still not about well, roughly speaking, the average bill of the exhibition is about millions of dollars, of course, your opinion, your feelings and maybe some comments about how

the meetings between belarusians and russia took place. well , kiril vladimirovich yes, the eastern economic forum for the belarusian delegation - this was probably some kind of synchronization of watches with the far east. and, of course, the personality of the governor. kozhemyaka. she stood like that separately, because you need to understand that this person, firstly, is an ethnic belarusian and has such warm relations with the president of our country. they talk about this a lot and of course the conversation between our ambassador dmitry krutoy and mikhail yasenkovich, who was also present there as part of the belarusian delegation. they showed that the building faces east. we will only gain momentum; the task for the next five years is to increase trade turnover with the far east to one billion dollars. and now, of course, that’s it. i will repeat once again moving. in such a good way, thanks to the current governor, that is, the purchase of belarusian equipment, and propaganda in a good way

in the good sense of the word. what was the attitude towards the exhibition? i’ll explain to you, there ’s china nearby; for us, china is no matter how much we talk about it being our strategic partner. this is also our strategic competitor, because what belarusians produce is also produced in china. therefore, we also have to compete with china, a small one. remark: you say, china . it seems to me that in fact, maybe i ’m wrong. eh, the time when people chose only based on price. mmm, maybe cheaper goods, but gone now there is also a political moment. this is what kostya is talking about. and why is yours? of course, it’s very difficult to compete with china, it’s very difficult to compete , you need to understand that chinese manufacturers. this is no longer consumer goods. they are ready to offer their equivalent for any belarusian equipment in different price segments, etc. and of course, the promotion of belarusian goods in the far east, where china is just a stone’s throw away, is

primarily political lobbying. here are the statistics i heard from governor kozhemyako, if we take the entire loaf of belarusian equipment that goes to the far east, 90%, uh, if yes, in the belarusian yes region, 90% of equipment is purchased from the state budget, only 10% are private businessmen, that is, the municipal city federal budget buys belarusian technology businessmen. they look a little differently. yes, they look at the service. they look at price and so on. moreover, you need to understand that sanctions are sanctions. okay. but if you are in the far east and you need buy japanese equipment, you buy it. yes, it will be 40% more expensive there than before the sanctions. is it clear what? well, after all, yes, from the ministry of industry. we always say that our technology is competitive. our technology can also show itself. it’s better there than our

competitors, and our equipment is the best there. the best technology in the world, we say, we film a report there. yes, and when the sanctions happened, we talked about the fact that the russian market is huge, it can absorb, well , almost everything that we produce, and then after a while there, well, one and a half to two years the conversation turned to the fact that the chinese are competing with us precisely due to the fact that somewhere their parts are more accessible, somewhere in terms of service and many experts. they say that we have already reached our peak in trade with russia from an industrial point of view. now there will be a rollback, whether it is true or not , first literally in two figures on the results, well , of the past year, or rather. well, how we work today and it would seem. eh, sanctions happened, which means, of course, very difficult period. when all enterprises had to almost urgently turn around and look for new ways of new

partners in this situation. it ’s just typical that our main partner , the russian federation, uh, practically, we found a common language with them and were able to supply, uh, the bulk of our goods. e to the russian federation, that is, the export growth rate. for us in the russian federation last year it was more than 150%. despite the fact that total exports. uh, we also showed an increase of 115%, if we talk about enterprises ministry of industry this year, the trend continues, yes, uh, the dynamics may be slowing down a little. that is, we now have , uh, exports from the russian federation. uh, about 140% a little more than 140%, uh, yes, absolutely, so uh, well, he is he and he is enough creatures 140%, this is a high pace and next year we predict that we will grow, but of course, probably the pace will decrease, because look, yes. it will decrease because many niches

where we could already occupy them, which means that's all. it's more complicated and more complex, it really competes with the chinese ones. a slightly different view. yes, on the topic under discussion, uh, that question is not even only in the ministry of industry or the industrial enterprise. there is such a thing as financial support from a point of view. these are preferential loans, installment plans, there and so on. there, like china, there are no self-measuring financial resources in relation to belarusian enterprises. as such , the european union is even going to sue the banks due to the fact that electric cars are cheap, we say it is necessary to talk about the finances of industrial operations groups, this is what we are really talking about today. we shouldn't even overtake. at least there is no way to lag behind china, but here are the questions. i would like to explain to your colleague who said that 90% comes at the expense of the region after all. i think not the federal republic. he has a budget, well, probably this is also

the point of view. well, probably, it seems to me that it characterizes the state approach. why because today one workplace, in particular masha’s pages, creates from 7 to 12 jobs in related industries, including in the russian federation, that is , they have a private enterprise that is somewhat parochial, and self-interested, and a pragmatic, but parochial approach, the original authorities. federal authorities. why are they attracted? this is not priesthood, it’s not even that he is ethnically belarusian, it’s just that the vision of the problem is much more state-owned and they. we are talking about the fact that even russia is a strategic partner , they talk about cooperation, these are the same import substitution programs, this is the involvement of russian and belarusian enterprises in one production chain. here it is too dude i'm so china this is a different country. they don't care about such problems at all. they, on the contrary, need to tighten their commitment. we

have to carry it there to process it and deliver it, including to the russian federation. on friday i was at the dialogue platform at the minsk electrotechnical plant named after kozlov, in fact, for the majority of residents. belarus is, well, an enterprise that produces something. what is not clear and they began to talk about the fact that the average salary 2.600. we work three shifts, most often on saturday and sunday. yes, they make transformers. this is a serious story, he says, we have grown in numbers over the past year and a half. we are building an additional building in order to assemble a paint shop; we bought a new installation from china, that is. strictly speaking, an enterprise. it's growing, growing, growing. i say okay. where do you sell? he says, russia but the funniest thing is that he says we also sell to europe. she says we sell to europe. well, of course, no one reveals these supply chains, but we say there were very large orders. same thing. there were baltic states. there are large orders from europe and he says, well, in fact, people understand that this is really a technique that is priced and quality. very uh, well,

kind of worthy and that’s why we really are renewing these chains. here is the resumption of these chains. over the past year and a half, the president has said that sanctions are, well, just another reason. yes, in order to find new markets, find new people who will work. and here restoration of these new markets or old new markets. russia is clear, but everything else. well, of course, this task is very important today, because we understand that on the one hand. no matter how much russia can accept, it is necessary in any case to think about diversification and supplies to other markets, of course, first of all. here uh, go out to uh. the first place is the markets that are countries that have, let’s say, good relations with us and are ready to cooperate, no matter what, with us and our enterprises. this is in first of all, of course, countries. the cis is the countries of africa, these are the countries of asia, but here the question arises, the second is the question of logistics. this means that we understand that to deliver goods, uh, if somewhere

through asia, absolutely, so here it becomes even more difficult for us to compete with our same asian partners. well, when, uh, sanctions pressure affected russia, such a really serious talk, it was said that, in principle, well, with some basic things, yes, the first necessity goods there, it’s clear that we can provide for ourselves, the question became, it was precisely in technology that we were talking about the fact that somewhere at one time the development of certain directions was slowed down. the same microelectronics. why are the russians, who for a long time did not support us in some way, reluctant to share something now? eh, we are ready to develop that same cooperation even in such a narrow and specific topic. well, because there is a need , there is a request, they paid attention to the technopark, including vladimir aleksandrovich, that’s how things are, huh?

what requests do you currently have and do they come to you? and if we're talking about mm technologies that are, well, perhaps now critically important, then this is what, well, first of all, i am positioned with we work with the small and medium-sized business sector. moreover, entrepreneurs who are production workers who deal with hardware. that is, this is something that you can touch with your hands. they are releasing some specific products based on the request that we have, that is, we need to distinguish between two types of requests, firstly, from the entrepreneurs who are inside, who are starting their own business or are going to continue it develop, but they need to solve, as it were, the first global task of getting hooked somewhere in good conditions. here we provide this opportunity. that is, we have several sites around the city, the largest one. reconstruction is currently underway. at partizansky eight there are also traditional pumps. there are also promising sites that will also feed, but will be reconstructed

, but nevertheless, we try to work with every enterprise and entrepreneurs who contact us, but this is not only about placing it, it is about understanding its problems. uh, help decide to help them gain access to resources and, uh, and, if possible, promote them to the foreign market; they are more willing to provide those, uh , enough, serious, tax breaks, there are tax breaks. this means that we are not united, that is, we are not alone in the world, more precisely in belarus and in the universe. we have a great stone , there is a pvd, they have their own client, which means this is a more detailed enterprise to seem like a great stone or this is pure it. if we touch on the pvd, however, there are not only clean axles, but we have a segment of it. this means that we worked, but we work not only with those. who has already come to us? and with those who? uh, basically, the newspaper wants to be placed and get hooked, we help them, and we are looking for other sites around the city and also trying to understand their problems and these well

, what are the areas of finance, resources , technological human resources, and product promotion, uh, consulting services for help, just show which doors to knock on, where you can save on bank interest, where you can refinance at a lower interest rate. uh, where can i get some technological stuff? technological support, that is, to operations within the technology park itself. well, i also wanted to say with an external request. that is, here, as it were, participating in many exhibitions, but they always come up. eh, foreigners, for example, yesterday there was a wonderful exhibition. eh, she was in the arena, which means the iranians were approaching, and everyone has a request, but everyone why are you trying to sell what they produce, for example, on the belarusian market, but in order for them to want to buy, you need to at least surprise them. here, in fact, our task is to find, and enterprises or entrepreneurs who do something that our foreign partners. so yesterday you

surprised foreigners with nothing, so this is the last example. you touched on china . and our partners from the middle kingdom came to us twice in the last month. these were representatives of the embassy and representatives of such a structure as the sco commercialization center. but they are positioned in china, they are in china, which means we got acquainted with the products of some residents. you will be surprised, both of them are interested in one thing the product that is being made in our technology park is made by our belarusian company, which paid for this product and those, the chinese once lamented, what does this mean? guess what it is. yes, this is coffee we grow 50. look at me. well, i also understand that the technology parks that exist in russia are also becoming a definite object of our attention. for example, last year the mayor of min. vladimir evgenievich kukharev went to

ulyanovsk there was a big technopark there, what do you take from there, because, well, if they are already working with it, we are here we are starting to work, probably some , well , we are adopting aspects of the conventional cities of twin cities or simply our partners, we are carefully monitoring the situation with the development of these parks in the russian federation, they have an association of technology parks and uh, industrial clusters. hundreds of people go there, maybe already 1,000. and so to speak, the participants. we even measure somewhere and the state committee for technology also measures our positions in their ratings. so we have good positions, rather closer to the top third. maybe even a quarter here, but that we can take there what we lack, for example, if we take the largest one, like their park, this is a school where we take all the competencies that we need for our residents.

ours, we also hold many competitions of the republic, entrepreneurs of independence participate in them. location in the country, be it minsk, be it, vitebsk , anywhere, and the winners in various categories of youth, not only youth, we take out , there are events such as startup greatness, where it goes to school in the moscow region, that means participation, but in the event is free, but you have to get there somehow, in my opinion. we are also called business angels. well, why business angels are those who have free resources that they can place, and in some startup in which they themselves believe and what is the point of a business angel is that he gives not only money and not only money. as much as your competencies, your connections, your skills in motion, then you invest yourself in distonation, which means we are not distancing ourselves. and we do what is closer to us, that is, we rather show the way, as the network says, what do you need, they also have pancakes? you remembered something a couple of programs ago, then they were talking about the economy. here's how the execution was criticized.

and our union programs, here is the implementation of those same agreements 208 of these cards and hmm, they spoke quite sharply about the fact that they raised a really sore subject, but i would not want to reduce everything to 28%. whether it seems to you or not, i’ll say it in more detail. that is, in principle, this is cooperation or, so to speak , the role of government bodies in trade and investment cooperation with russia. it lots of plan. yes, indeed there are 28 program states. i would note their status - this is a joint decree of two heads of state. in principle, i don’t remember, so to speak, such applicants, well, with the exception of the military-industrial complex, so to speak, the defense of the industrial complex. and from this point of view, we will summarize the results of this year. me though. well, since you provoke me to do this in quotes. eh, this situation is a little on guard, because government bodies are talking about a certain action plan, it has been completed, or 70 that is. 80 programs, but i would like to point out

that the deadline will be for the implementation of the program, not the event. you can prepare the entire package and then refuse to sign. and such and such is worthless one question, the second question is that some programs were transformed during their implementation. well, for example, an agreement about politics, if you look up the original document, there is not an agreement, but a law that should be pro- policy. well, this is the second question i have with the bird - what is developing more dynamically is the driver - this is regional cooperation. this is it, this is it, where we started our program. it really is a driver. this driver is not 7 minutes long, and it spans a decade. and by the way, its initiators are state-owned. uh, head of state, third driver. yes, which has appeared and, from my point of view, is also developing very dynamically. this is the so-called import substitution program, which, so to speak, is implemented by a specific enterprise. well, coffee , for example, as it turned out yes, i understand that in

this case i’m exaggerating, but still, but if not just terms, and from the point of view, that is, so that they don’t think that i’m kind of conscious here, systemic, there’s no critic, and when you talk about some reserves, you need to voice them, then from my point of view, uh, only two reserves sound. the first reserve is that today in russia there are a number of state federal russian world standards programs that are constantly building on microelectronics and speech. there we are talking about billions, hundreds of billions and even trillions of dollars. if we talk about microelectronics. we seem to be in a union state, but we are there, it seems a little like that to say, well, not our own, that is , a project program is being formed, which, in principle, could be optimized due to our existing competence. no, they are implementing their programs. and we are there, out of necessity, to attract the second question - this is a financial position. now they have an industry support fund. we are talking about

units of percent. unfortunately, even with the program that is being implemented today at the expense of the financial resources of the russian federation , the money received is already many times more expensive. these are the problems that can be solved. yeah i think it's early or we will solve them later, by the way, the head of state at the penultimate meeting in st. petersburg said that it is necessary to move from cooperation to a unified industrial policy in this chain. what is dataship called? so, i’m thinking of correcting me or supplementing. indeed, if we take uh, 28 programs, well, just like our president said, more than 80% of the activities have already been completed. yes, but we really went further. this regional cooperation can be seen as people constantly visit both the reverse side and our president they are coming. uh, governors. here, indeed. our dynamics are very colossal. well, here is the governor of the krasnodar territory, indeed. nothing. no, for example, uh,

it was not initially included in the union programs. we have reversed this trend. eh, almost as soon as the sanctions policy began to intensify. uh, this is really an integration project. the so-called import-substituting projects we currently have are 16 quite a few, almost worth a billion rubles. we already have uh, the news line started today and went through 18 programs for and plus we have 10 more programs. e in stock. we are working through them. we hope next year. that is, there is money, but the clinic needs it. well, the main task of these integration projects is, uh, the most important thing is psychological safety, psychological sovereignty, relatively speaking, there is cooperation, for example, maz and kamaz there, here is a classic example, which has actually been in production for 15 years, there is a gearbox, for example , we gathered and looked at the competencies. it turns out you can do uh, for two it’s called and begin. therefore, here, of course, the potential

is huge, as we once said, georgy vasilyevich yes, that’s the same microelectronics. how are things going there? i guess i can’t agree that we are somewhere on the margins. we initially agreed with our russian colleagues that in these difficult conditions. we need to coordinate efforts and move and develop exactly those areas where we have competencies, so as not to duplicate each other. there somewhere they don’t need it, but supplement it where it is necessary. and it’s absolutely right to define this now. we have been working and have been working on those areas all last year where we can effectively complement each other, which means we are forming an inter-legal agreement, where we are defining basic approaches further, uh, developing specific road maps, as it was in microelectronics and say exactly what we will do. and in what period that we will invest, representing the cost of federal programs. the resources that

come to us through cooperation are just heaven and earth. this is what i’m talking about. in principle, we are different. we could, due to our competence , qualify in a good sense for more funding and not duplicating it with russia. we understand that even the wto , despite the fact that it seems to be an organization that unites markets around the world. yes, but here you go. the same ukraine is suing the european commission because it is forbidden to transport grain to the territory of poland. although it seems like they are all military allies there. we understand all this perfectly well, no one questions the effectiveness of expediency cooperation. i'm talking about increasing productivity in quotation marks by cooperating reserves. yes, these are not critics. this is just about reserves, that there is room for improvement, especially since we started with china. that is, today, yes, russia is attracting alternative technological and industrial supplies from friendly countries. yeah, but sometimes these supplies take the same masha

construction equipment into agricultural machinery, it competes with us with belarusian and russian said that the political decision is even in the same far as the belarusian equipment in russian legislation falls under the wording domestic. that is, ah, he subsidizes the purchase, yes for belarus. let us not rely on these union programs being the eastern economic forum. do you think that the belarusian delegation included at least one head of a large belarusian enterprise? although i know that they were invited only by the ambassador and diplomat. although there were heads of all russian state corporations there in vladivostok at that time. but we didn't get there. well, your colleague will correct you. i i think, that is, he supervises, just foreign economic affairs. i think that something didn’t go cool, in principle, i could imagine all this.

well, to what extent, uh, i’ll answer another remark that , let’s say, they say, uh, a political decision and so on, but we don’t forget, and our russian partners clearly understand this, that in any of our products the share of the russian component is colossal, somewhere from 50-60 somewhere around 40, but it is very large and therefore, as has already been said. how many additional jobs? on every product 10 million are being created. the head of state, of course, subsidizing russia or making a decision on support or, uh, some kind of support programs for the acquisition of our equipment, the russian federation understands perfectly well that, uh, thereby it subsidizes or helps to sell its product, including that concerns here is the presence of direct contact between business leaders. well , maybe she isn't needed. yes, if such a thing already exists at the political level, it seems that everything is clear to everyone, yes, then it kind of makes sense

they are practically. uh, how can i say it correctly, business trips don’t come, probably, how intensively they go. eh, as they say in the last remark regarding our mechanical engineering and participation, there are heads of belarusian enterprises, dmitry is certainly our cool ambassador. on every trip he visits dealers of belarusian equipment. and so , how much we have already traveled with him in this central russia and siberia and the urals and the far east, i asked him e in vladivostok after visiting the mkador maz mtz dealership to give such a small remark. i i'll ask the directors to include, uh, the ambassador's commentary. i think that the minister will have something to respond to the deputy prime minister’s message, and we must not forget that he is the current deputy prime minister. primorsky krai is the only region that has formed separate plans for all types of our equipment; they have, in principle, been signed. for

example, microdrops see that they are implemented normally with other regions. i advised the governor that we need to sign such plans and those uh, well, by and large, a soup of dealers or just a branch network of our dealers that is there located. i would like our head enterprises in minsk to be very seriously certified, because if they sell one or two units of equipment, but the question is why are they there and when you ask them, how many companies have you visited by local segments and where can you show the papers and official protocols negotiations of refusals of claims, maybe belarusian technology. they just throw up their hands. i conclude that they do not work and it is not clear why they are there at all, so the certification system for our tps, especially in such remote regions in the far east , they need to be seriously changed and better controlled, and when colleagues from magadan say that it almost works for them. court of komatsu equipment units i understand that the japanese sealers work well there and we are lucky that they are now running away. and

the regional leadership is asking us to quickly replace these volumes, but we have a completely different agility, we simply don’t have it. what we talked about is not enough to produce, just sell good equipment in general and you need to be present at any acceptable site. i think that the manager minsk tractor plant, and i’ll say this, we were talking specifically about its products , the far east it would be very useful to visit, but i ’ll remind you of the numbers that i started means, uh, we’ve been showing for several years in a row, well significant growth. first of all, as i already said about the russian federation and this applies to almost all regions. if you look at the growth, it is happening both in the far east and in the near regions. this suggests that it really is still possible to say that somewhere the network is working there doesn't work, probably not entirely correctly. it is necessary to look in each specific case, where there is a decrease, where there is no proper dynamics. yes indeed, but while the numbers show that the network is working effectively, of course, it needs

improvement. and we agreed on this, and including uh. yes, we started talking about the market. as a matter of fact, it’s very big and and, well, we won’t be able to make all the tractors for russia; we have to compete; another question is that we understand that the competitors are the same chinese they make the technology is no worse, but the political decision , even the very stage of the leather meat’s attachment to the motherland, all this makes a very important decision in business, of course, but what is the question. and the fact that he sent, well, excuse me, sparked my opinion. they heard my opinion, they heard it, so we, strictly speaking, are interested in the belarusian name and image, you understand, and it is important not to let him down, to be honest, roughly speaking, the head of state at the highest level is written off for us, but at least we shouldn’t let him down. today we are talking about

economics and money. as a matter of fact, all the first part of the program was devoted to the fact that the industry we have has come to the conclusion that we must continue to study to sell. nikolayevich , we still started with what deflation is , everything that deflation is, that’s according to the people. i 'll tell you. so that means deflation is practically a stalinist reduction in prices, which means you come, and here, because, well, it seems like money is starting to become more expensive, it means our prices suddenly drop sharply, but we ’re looking at what we have and the dollar is jumping here and there, and prices seem to be going nowhere run away. what is deflation for people, what is it, why is it? yes, because last year remember when the president. as a matter of fact, i called a whole meeting and scolded that prices were rising and our inflation had gone downhill. well, as the president would say, she omitted, well, kirill , well, in fact, you said everything correctly, well, besides the fact that this is stalin’s price regulation,

that is, this is still the case. uh, the economic process, and a decrease in the scale of prices in the economy. uh, that is, there is a set of goods and services for which the statistical committee we are being monitored. and so he recorded it. well, in this basic set we have recorded a decrease compared to the previous period. this is a kind of deflation and noted that i added that deflation is actually a general decrease in prices. if we talk about this 0.3 of this inflation, by the way, for the first time in several years we have deflation, but in august , prices are traditionally always low, when simple truths disappear. well, oddly enough, in addition to vegetable products, we have a contribution. eh, deflation, so to speak, that is, if, for example, 0.3 general deflation 0.4 0.44 this is fruiting. if we take last year, we had

atypical, expensive ones, there were tomatoes, cucumbers, and vegetables in general. yes, our annual inflation reached 20%. this year. on the contrary, they rolled down, uh, and began to cost. as they should be building in august, our statistical prices have fallen, but, strangely enough, so have non-food products. uh, certain ones also influenced the reduction in prices, okay , now look, we talked for a very long time about russia when there, well, for example, here are all our prices. uh, all prices are indicated in russian rubles dollar. there somewhere it jumps and grows and decreases. yes, this has an effect, but in general, for the average everyday resident of russia , prices in russian rubles remained a secret. you’re just joking, you say, look , the price of dollars has gone up there. he says there is a salary there now. what are russian rubles in russian rubles inside you get russian rubles, and prices in russian rubles. we have the same story here , but the dollar has risen in price. well, we didn’t have any kind of maximum jump. yes , this will happen here, or something

has changed in our economy. tell me well look, if we talk about forecasts there, yes, uh, well, indeed, we are interconnected with the russian federation, if we talk about the structure of imports there, in the structure of the consumer basket we have about 30% - this is the so -called critical import, which we do not produce conditionally there is some kind of russian fish there, but we don’t produce tea or coffee there, really. uh, we have a lot of external influence on these products. ah, well, in general, if we take the structure, this is true. eh, is all this bread getting more expensive or not? in fact, we have russian. well, well, well, i know, well, i didn’t say that in uh such an external situation , the so-called, if we traditionally, for example, there uh in some periods there, once every two years, for example, it arises turbulence there in the market. for example, or meat there , for example, the russian federation

, something is happening there and the demand for our products is sharply increasing. what is happening to our prices is clear that a shortage of goods begins and prices begin to push down. after all, we all somehow, uh, like to plan and forecast. uh, rally. now after all here to you. you are in charge of our finances. today , yes, and if we are talking about our plans, the head of state meets with vladimir putin, and shared his vision of the development of the union state from an economic point of view. yes, he expects us to reach the pre-sanction level. what do you think from a financial point of view, how will we plan? uh, our spending for the next year, well, the sanctions level is like good or bad, of course, everyone compares. yes, because for us. eh, well, from a certain point the time was divided there before the station yes, and even the sanctions we still have according to san . the period has entered, yes, that is, we e clearly have

problems, the enterprises have lost markets. this means they have problems with components. yes, there was a problem with logistics and against all this background. well, it’s a pity, the economy is a pity , exports have decreased. uh, production volumes have decreased. yes, and now the task is to increase these volumes to reach the station level, those markets that we have lost, and these are large large amounts, take ukraine alone yes yes, we have to replace it and when do we, uh, when do we reach the pre-sanction level? this means that we will replace and restore export volumes and restore industrial production volumes. yes, we will solve logistics problems. that is, with us. well , these economic production processes will improve. well, finance is already production. uh, a derivative of this and the faster we see on uh. so, yeah, you know, i'll say, so, uh, the economy is working, yes, and the budget is a mirror, and

that's why we're like, well, even though, that we have a planned deficit, nevertheless. we do everything. well, here's what we're planning for this year for '23. we fulfill all the main income sources, and according to some sources. we are even ahead of the curve. thanks first of all. uh, to all economic drivers. who works in particular industry. well, by the way, it turns out that we have an industry. it seems to me that it would be indicative to digitize these general arguments. this is also a statement, it turns out it’s written here. i'll come now, wait a year. grew almost 3%. i'm not a loser. so, what's his name? uh, i just want to talk about the numbers, when even here i would not agree with the head of state, which we will come out with next year, but before the san-net. we've already left. in some indicators, we even exceeded the fact. the fact is that the minister of finance spoke for

it, losses from exports amounted to 10.2 billion. but the prime minister also said that, in principle, we are not a friendly step, where we veiled it with new markets that are friendly, that is, we are 45% economies suffered. precisely because of sanctions restrictions, but the indicators are just gdp two and nine; moreover, there are new, more pleasant indicators for august inclusive, in my opinion, there are three. one , we are announcing new indicators, so to speak, that have not been published anywhere from 3.1. that's what we're talking about today. that today the driver is industry, so today, just within the framework of the euro-zet, we are almost twice as high as our competitor in quotes , kazakhstan, in terms of industrial production growth 7.1. and now, in my opinion, somewhere under eight seven and nine. here are the same exports to some regions. that is, i would not even agree that we will come out next

year. as we've already said, this is a cautious statement. it's normal for health claims to be optimistic. i think it will be gratifying that they will tell him that he was wrong, and we have reached the mark. how many a is correct hmm in general compare before the sanctions period. sanctions period. i'll explain the conditions. well, when we look, yes, she is conditionally 23 and from twenty-two from twenty we compare the first with the twentieth year. well, let's say hmm, i'll translate the example of agriculture . last year we had a record harvest this year. he’s not like that , it’s clear that yes, we set this high bar, but already this year it seems to us that well, somehow we didn’t do enough. even among ordinary people, i heard something like, that is, they are already accustomed to such high indicators and figures, how important is it for an ordinary person to focus on this. and if we are talking about enterprises and people, uh,

who make decisions with what numbers and is it still more correct to compare the indicators with last year’s or with the peak? i, because if we are talking about a simple consumer, then, of course, in this information flow they will search. this is where things really go wrong. so i noticed what i am saying now. and why last year the percentages said how much we threshed , how much we harvested? but now they are silent, they just gave out the numbers, that is, consumers will look for it, as for, and with what numbers? compare: absolutely true, the conditions have changed, we have lost the margin premium markets. that's all, these are the markets to which i came and gave back. we developed precisely for these markets: ukraine, yes, that is, it left our european partners. yes, here they say that they continue to acquire goods, but in a roundabout way. yes, the volumes are inadequate. still, we have to look for new ways of cooperation with them, so we really like to compare something, and

set some higher standards, we are developing, and these numbers that are being shown to us today show that we have not kneeled. we we are developing. now, when we come to the point that our industry really was a driver and will remain a driver, when we implement those programs that we are talking about. yes, that is, when we reach this level with new partners at a new stage development. then we can talk about whether we have achieved something or not, and now we live, we move forward and do not give up. this is for today, in my opinion, the corner. here i remember one of our broadcasts two years ago. i just started all this with an auction. stories we they said that we are really at the beginning of the path, because, uh, we don’t know where, relatively speaking, we can buy goods. how to sell goods, how to establish these chains? yes indeed, this is like a reason for us to start moving, what can you say? after these 2 years. this is the pre-sanction period that i

’m talking about now. and now this is what, well, probably, uh, i’ll say. so over these years, especially the last twenty, the second half of the year, 23 it is absolutely true that it is said here that we we started with just one economy and forecast and plans, but in the middle of the year the situation completely changed. eh, industry is especially light, which generally concentrated its exports on the russian federation market. during the sanctions period, it accounted for 65-70% of the share of exports, but today it is 83% and it is clear that not every enterprise is there. especially gross-generating ones, for example, like the orsha flax mill, where the share of the russian market was 18% hmm, it turned out that way , but we understand that today, we will allow all products in the form we won’t sell any assortment on the russian market, so we also changed our strategy.

we began, firstly, studied every region of russia, yes, that is, life itself forced us to not just look at russia there to the urals, here moscow smolensk buy a program about this and says, yes, they were moving here, and everything was convenient for us, some people came to us dealers wholesalers. and we, in general , did not look at the urals at all, that is, logistics frightened us. she scared uh, time. uh, delivery logistically in general, in principle, is a business building through no direct flights. now this is unconditional. it doesn't scare anyone at all. that is, up to vladivostok, all of russia is ours, that is, we have studied each federal district and its pluses and minuses of needs. e on trade and paid special attention to the subject of cooperation. today we clearly understand that without uh operational chains of production and without joint ventures to trade, the future in the long term, when the post uh sanctions period comes, may not exist,

so a light industry enterprise, especially active in the last year and a half every year we create such projects for two , when russian business is going on together with projects in some kind of cooperation and production and trading at russian enterprises, let’s just call it, including we are creating a joint venture, including on russian sites. eh, russian business, or our partners sew. we have it to suit your orders and your needs. we also have our own brands. we , including under our own brands, whose already in russian business, one might say, well, how many belarusian factories are already producing ours. in general, there are three or three such enterprises actually operating on the territory of the russian federation, it is clear that these may not be the same figures as those of the ministry of industry, but nevertheless we, uh , i think, yes, we are zhelekh industry, but nevertheless , we are making no less efforts we really make every effort to develop each region and each project and each success or even non-

success. we can also copy it, which means that the lower ones have already occupied their definite positions. that is, well, really, explosive growth is not coming there. but you , it seems to me, you have potential, in fact, we uh we are still working on some of the regions in this trans-ural region. we are currently undergoing processes. uh, retail openings . we won’t say it quickly, but nevertheless we looked closely through e.g. what channels and how to build these mechanisms, because we clearly understand that today it is easy for any of our enterprises, or a pool of enterprises, to gain such experience. there is also the possibility of opening trade facilities, where, for example, the capitalization of five of our textile enterprises will come to any region of the russian federation, despite the fact that they are all waiting for us they say, come, we need you without uh partners in russia, it’s very difficult, because we need to hire staff, we need to rent sites. that is, our products are

small-piece and take a long time, so we looked closely at the localization implementation mechanisms in each region. yes, we really are plus minus. wait georgievich, we have been, plus or minus , the same composition throughout. this entire sanctions period. plus or minus, it’s not the same topics, but we’re discussing it, and it’s interesting to see what else was there two years ago one and a half, well, at the beginning of the program for sure. we talked and discussed what would happen to the dollar. what currency to invest in. where to store your savings. now only once during the program, it seems to have slipped through. i'm saying that he has an issue with the dollar, but to his own national currency. it seems to me that it has increased, that is, even beyond the dollar exchange rate in exchange offices. well , maybe they are watching out of habit or not? no, but it seems to me that you don’t think so. eh, this is reality, because if you look at the structure of organized savings. i have in

in terms of banking , the trend for probably a year now is that in foreign currency these positions are decreasing, but in rubles they are growing. and they are growing. so, uh, there is 5% per month there on average, so the fact is that the belarusian ruble is stronger, and it reduces the competitiveness of belarusian exports, in particular, if we are talking about the russian federation, so here, uh, you can’t go too far with the belarusian ruble the national bank conducts a floating exchange rate for the belarusian ruble. that is, it reflects today, essentially objective processes of supply and demand. that is, uh, simply, in fact, such objective processes have occurred, when the dollar and the euro, in essence, well, they become no longer necessary. yes, firstly, firstly, if i may say so, a toxic currency. first of all, i'm going to interrupt for a second. yes, we are not trying to promote the belarusian

ruble now. we told the realities because we will be accused of trying to prove that everything is fine. uh, this is based on simple , well, simple processes that what is happening is, firstly, uh, our trade turnover with those countries with which we traded in dollars has decreased, and accordingly there is an influx of dollars into the country from outside. this means, on the one hand, on the other hand, we have, uh, in terms of financial flow, the western financial markets have closed, we cannot use dollars and euros. so, uh, borrowing doesn’t even pay off, but attracts us to the inner world, then the question is that even if we are attracted there through commercial banks, yes. then he will take out a loan today in dollars, yes, and who will work it off in dollars , where to sell it in order to work off debts and therefore in these processes we have, uh, objectively a pity, this is the currency oil, yes, dollars, they also reflect the rates on deposits in foreign currency. yes, and the population sees that we have already been there since the twentieth

year, under such sanctions, under sanctions , we have been hunting for our viewers. well, just look 10 years ago, if the dollar suddenly went up sharply, then gasoline prices went up, and then dollar prices went up, and then they also refused to cooperate with trading partners, and with main trading partners with the russian federation refused. uh, in terms of dollars. yes, that is, we are transferring energy resources today and uh, as if there is such a direct dependence, uh, there is no direct dependence and people looked. well, everything is fine with the ruble, nothing is happening on the one side of any critical processes, but on the other side. if someone needs dollars today, it is not a problem to come to an exchange office to change them . well, wait a little longer media resources that are now called extremist. they they were screwing up this situation. before syria , everything was just different. they somehow didn't work. well

, you can see it in the figures, for example, for august. if we take it, then the population is purely a currency seller. despite the fact that we have some turbulence, a traditional trend arises. yes, he was and together a year ago there is no money at all and i’ll go change it, i have to do this three. these intercessions are always traditionally bought by dollars and euros, when it is the most expensive there , relatively speaking, there, uh, it rolled back by 10% . they went and bought everything and then they said, what about them change because the exchange rate has rolled back. well, now everyone has learned that many people don’t understand that all this is really changing. uh, the head of state met with the president of equatorial guinea and when cooperation with the african region was going on, and he said that, uh, he sees development. following the example of the russian federation, that is, we will build relationships directly locally with some small, but state-owned regions and provinces. that is, the russian

example has shown itself to be quite successful yulia konstantin, how close russia is, you can, in principle, fly there, go there, speak the same language and understand each other, yes, and hmm africa is a little further away, this example. can it be used on a page? viable for the simple reason we have already talked about markets. that’s it, no, we don’t have premium markets in europe; we partially need them there. eh, we need to look for new directions of development. yes, africa is far away. and for us it was always somewhere there, very far away, but in fact they will make a corymark, maybe it makes sense to go to some big hub roughly speaking, from there, uh, eliminate your life. we're saying, wait, now we're talking about the little ones. yes, from targeted cooperation to go where we are expected. we can and we go, we are in major hubs.

yes, but there is more competition there. frankly speaking, yes, that is, we go there, moreover, where we can offer our technologies, which are in demand there in the agriculture and industry, then where we can really demonstrate ourselves. and where can we trust? that is, this is absolutely normal for us, we kind of probe the territory and understand that this direction is relevant for us today. yes, we will go. it’s insanely difficult, it’s incredibly expensive, of course, but nevertheless this is exactly our direction for the future, because everything else is like we are in the russian federation. yes, we have explored it and we will go further. well, russia is our strategic and dear partner. we even understand the mentality, here everything will be more complicated and more expensive, but again, this is the way out, dmitry ivanovich. eh, by the way, ours by right. well, it's kind of heavy industry, it enters the market with the most exotic things. the same africa is certainly today. uh, as i said earlier , it’s difficult to work, well, it’s almost impossible to work with europe on the russian market. we are saying

that there is a good result, but, of course, we need to strategically look for new markets, new opportunities, and here potentially africa is for us. this is really the region that treats us quite well, they know our products loyally and uh, the third most important thing is that it is in demand and is really expected there. so, well, uh, here again. uh, as we said earlier, it's a logistical issue. he becomes very serious and we also see that our asians will say. so partners and friends don’t sleep either. and there are some of their productions operating with such ideas, absolutely correct. we go wherever, as has already been correctly indicated, they are waiting for us. and where it is possible, where it is possible to sell finished products, we sell them where there is a need, where there are certain methods of protection or incentives. it's not just about localization

go there, what do you have and from this point of view of indicators for the leading positions of industrial production. this suggests that today, to paraphrase a well-known phrase, you will not feed your own army, you will feed someone else’s, if we had not fed our real sector for decades, in quotes we would not have fed. what we have and would actually feed the working engineers of other countries, therefore this systemic approach, which gave its result as a result of this sanctions policy, we expect the result - we predict it. this is a strategic approach strategies. i will support you. that's literally it. again, i talked with the chief engineer of one of the industrial enterprises in minsk , to whom i sincerely said that 5 years ago. i didn’t fully understand the words of the head of the state when he spoke about the need to maintain production on the territory of belarus; it seemed like, just pull your hand, i bought it and why do all this? because well, there you go.

strictly speaking, this is an unnecessary expense. they when this story happened with sanctions, and we began to work, and i kind of saw that it was really ours that we were able to continue to be able to do. and we didn’t ruin it. he says what he ’s talking about at work, if they’ve always said the same thing in quotes from your opposition resources. what is the current industry from the enterprise, today there is a reverse trend, today the growth of working engineers at an industrial enterprise is outpacing the demand and the number in the ministry of industry is 2,000 for this year alone, increases and salaries today are 15-20% in the real sector of the ministry of industry in particular higher than in general in the economy, then today the issue of resources is not enough resources to produce these products, which today there are now enough economists and lawyers as there were in the early 2000s. now hands are normal hands against practitioners practices are now at a higher

price. well, i will literally say that following the example of russia, we are talking about precise cooperation. yes, there is political will, high agreements, but still decisions are made locally. people negotiate , people look for compromises and there will be no direct contact. any political one. the will would be strong, so in the same way, you need to work under a different direction. then we'll put it out. i'll just say that we we really live now in a different paradigm from the economy that existed. even 5 years ago , of course, you and i would be criticized for this program; it seems that we were also siphoning off production dollars. everything is bad with us. actually, guys, everything is fine. just look at how they work three shifts at the factory. the belarusian nut miracle, which you probably

haven’t heard anything about, there are about 40,000 hazelnut trees of european varieties . the uniqueness of this plantation is that it is the only business in belarus that bears fruit and not only looks. thunderstorms grow in clusters like this, 12 pieces each, and six are quite productive. e, a productive type of nut variety. we like him. this is what the hazelnut paradise and its founder gennady gavris look like during the harvest. we all hung out here. it changed my life, not only mine, but i, uh, i think, from the life of our whole family, that’s a big family. watch it on friday on our channel. secrets of good morning and good mood, do not forget that a smile is the most inexpensive the way looks better is meeting

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