[000:00:00;00] such that everyone is horrified, in fact, sensible people put their heads together and said: “lord, thank you for once removing nuclear weapons from ukraine, because while blaming russia, he actually stated that if ukraine now it was a weapon, she would have already used it, that is, he would have been ready to unleash a nuclear third world war, based on whose interests it is unclear, not the interests of the ukrainians, because most of the money that comes in is spent today .into their own pockets, it doesn't go to social needs, not for ukrainians, it goes towards this conflict, which in the end this money is just for this , look, at the same time, the peace formula from nato, here i quote, if president vladimir putin

of russia lays down arms, peace will come, he says , there is definitely the same desire for you to give up, but we are ready to negotiate , that is, from both russia and belarus, there are not just calls, but we have seen concrete actions that these parties are ready to sit down, sacrifice part of their interests, but to achieve something for yourself, that’s what it’s all about vyacheslav viktorovich says that the denazification of ukraine is the most important moment, once germany was not completely denazified, today we see the revival of neo-nazism. as in that wonderful film about stirlitz, mueller’s prophetic words were, but this cannot be allowed in russia , which no one took into account, which was deceived for years, decades and which was driven into a corner, they said that we are expanding nato in order to prevent ourselves from russia, when it there was none, they promised not to expand, they promised not to expand, they expanded, hiding behind the fact that that there may be a danger, even today,

when this danger is facing russia. drew, she is forced to answer, they say, well, it was not in vain that we expanded, right? well, now i just want to return to stolteng, well, believe me, this statement is the height of cynicism, there is no other way to say it, because a person who does not understand the essence of what is happening, even except for the only thing, he heads an organization that in recent years , she did what she wanted in europe, in the world, and so on, but the business is not the organization, the business is america through the hands of this organization. declare that if russia withdraws all weapons and destroys them, we already had this, this is the nineties of the last century, we cut up weapons, we demilitarized, we destroyed the latest weapons systems, missiles, aircraft, which, in terms of their characteristics, were significantly higher than what the enemy had, we accomplished all this, while nato, all at that time less than 20-odd states,

did nothing. they only promised and said today they are trying to buy us again with the same one, so to speak, to catch us with the same one on the same hook of an empty promise, and i would also pay attention, because this man, he is broadcasting, he is not broadcasting his thoughts, he is broadcasting the thoughts of the west, united, not united, it doesn’t matter, the golden billion, well, something like that, well, we’re like -this phrase, there are fewer of them, but but before that. berbok , this is the parsley of modern politics, i can’t call it anything else, he says the same thing, literally, russia must lose, ukraine must win, how, you know , what, here’s nikolai evgenovi, the best answer can be given to stolteng and berbok, here two we found photographs, very fresh, here is one photograph, about the fact that russia should capitulate, and let’s show the second photograph, also the same composition, but this is

a recent photograph. precisely at the moment when they heard stolteng’s proposal, probably a toast to victory, after all, you think, well , in general, in this studio we have discussed this bias many times , petty bullying of european politicians is probably one of these prizes mister barel should occupy, remember, as a result of the counter-offensive. stated that this is a blow below belt, the fact that russia was responsible, it must answer for this, and we must impose new sanctions, but therefore here some kind of politics is already moving into the field of medicine, but in fact, the situation is becoming dangerous, it seems to me that our western colleagues began to understand that zelsky was starting to get out of control, i want to give an example of even

his picks, which will be carried through the centuries, look what is happening now, that he is getting out of control, and we will also touch on this topic in poland, ukraine, their relations, let's continue, or rather, close this topic, it is becoming increasingly difficult for stoltenberg to be convincing , even among his own people, here are two short opinions , as a verdict, businessman david sachs poured out a map of the fighting in ukraine and noted that the territories occupied by the ssu are so small that they barely. it shows, elon musk very accurately continued this idea in the comments, so many deaths for such an insignificant result. as for musk himself, dogs were unleashed on him for refusing to help starlinks in the war against russia. but the fact that

billionaires are not easy is understandable, but also one picture, the ws journalist catches the eye here. the next time someone starts telling you about this high western press, remember this propagandist from skynews. this. that your ignorance and exorbitant ego led to the death of ukrainians , one ukrainian official said that with your actions you helped putin, how would you comment on this, vladimir putin called you an outstanding person, mr. musk, do you like that? it's true that ukrainians died because of your ignorance and sense of self- importance, one senior official thinks so. what is a free press, western values, and democracy worth? in 2020, because they are infuriated there in the west that the belarusian cauldron did not work out and they had to deploy the ukrainian front. listen to the famous lithuanian deputy pavelenis, not a little, yes, when

he throws it in the face, even to the fugitive, you have not taken a single building, but you are not fighting as you should, since the lithuanians- ukrainians understand this, here you are, we looked at your revolution , very lovely. i was everywhere myself, but we still didn’t understand why you didn’t they didn’t take one building, why didn’t you fight these security forces, why did you just act like saints? this is a struggle, we need to win this freedom, we need to break and fight this regime, who is saying this, the question is, the deputy first second, supposedly a politician of a neighboring state, and we constantly say that neighbors should... live with each other normally, like neighborly, peacefully, and this person is trying to drive a wedge, to continue the escalation of the situation in belarus, 3 years have passed, we have, thank god, already figured out what happened,

the majority have understood what they wanted here to do, people came up with the concept of national unity among themselves and this miracle appears on the blue eye and tells... what someone, and he, what he did in his life, with whom he fought, and why is he talking about it now, what will be his next step, this is exactly why he said this now, because by any means we need to destabilize the situation in our state, find any reason, like the latvians, like the lithuanians, like the poles, they are now running ahead of the rest for the piledrivers, to bite belarus, to bite russia, and normal players don’t get involved in this yet, this is... well, it’s no coincidence that his weasel is not an american flag. he says, a statesman of another state officially declares, in fact, that lithuania does not accept the current government

of the republic of belarus, officially, in fact, declares that they support coup attempts, and attempts by force to forcefully change the constitutional system in a neighboring country, well, from the point of view of diplomacy, of course, we already and so with them , this means an open declaration of war on our to the state, if we say so, honestly and without any diplomatic equivocations, that is, they themselves came to power illegally within the framework of the then existing ussr, they then carried out this criminal scheme to seize power. they are expanding regions to other post-soviet countries, we saw how, with the support of the same lithuania and others, well, these were small players, but funding also came through them, some of the participants in the events came from them, moreover, after

the maidan, lithuania was co-opted into the ukrainian government , his minister, citizen of the lithuanian state, who was the minister of ukraine, just as there were both us citizens and georgian citizens , appropriate statements should be made about what we should treat in this case from the point of view of influence, lithuania, for example, in comparison with belarus is a dwarf let's face it, of course we must understand these threats that they are preparing terrorists there, we must strengthen our vigilance within ourselves, but take them seriously, lithuania will not declare war on us, because it does not have this,

well, we continue, really interesting the process was touched upon in the first part of the program, we observe warsaw and kiev, until recently such close states, such as it seemed to everyone, relatives of each other, but people who know history understood how much of an illusion the closeness of warsaw and kiev is, there are a lot of open questions now we are watching, warsaw says, we won’t let your wheat, grain in, ukraine says, and we are in retaliation, which means apples and vegetables. yuri valevich, you know both poland and ukraine very well, and what happens is that their bouquet for the candy period has run out, gray everyday life begins, you know, but he never existed, it was all artificially imposed , they hugged and kissed very naturally in the verkhovna rada, of course, because both those actors and those actors, that is, on both sides, only probably , their theater is completely different, but now everything has fallen into place, the regime... kocinski wants to catch the last carriage, because in a month

they have parliamentary elections, they conducted relevant sociological studies and saw that the absolute majority of poles i am also outraged by the help that is being provided to the nazi regime of zelsky, by all the expenses for which they did not consent, so pay attention to how suddenly, sharply, out of... in a way belligerent towards ukraine, this desire to jump into the last carriage. but it’s a coincidence that this maximum aggravation happened just when zelensky flew to meet biden, because from the outside it looks, you know, like fragments from soviet film classics, yes, what about the fight for the title of beloved wife of comrade sukhoi, that’s also it is forbidden

rule out, this also cannot be ruled out. of course, the poles want to pull all the flows completely onto themselves, and it would be better for them if all this funding went to them, and as the polish side said, all this weapons come through us, and they would already distribute , a little, of course, according to the polish tradition , biting off a piece of this pie, but the main thing from my point of view, the main motivation for such a conflict that broke out, is certainly the desire to jump into this last one. he wants duda, morowiecki, kaczynski, this regime, a three-headed hydra, wants to please the polish voter, but the polish voter is dissatisfied, and we see this as a result, including marginal political forces, including forces advocating a complete cessation of funding for the zelski regime, begin to gain certain percentages, emerge from this marginal get, from this sociological error. well, from my point of view, of course, history clearly

shows that the relationship between ukraine and poland, given the fact that in fact now in poland there are ruling elites, the spiritual heirs of those rulers who were in interwar poland in the 20s and thirties, and there the policy was built primarily on lies and rampant nationalism, we are now seeing this in poland, and here it is definitely polish nationalism, it cannot be combined with ukrainian , everyone remembers this volyn massacre very well and regarding the eastern crosses, in the twentieth year they declared that they needed all of belarus, for example, if we are talking about our country, then it is quite natural here, which means all these deep contradictions, they come out one way or another, everything that happened means there was some kind of rapprochement, it was all at once, and colleagues are absolutely right, that the task of those rules of the polish ruling elites today is to stay in power, that electoral

the campaign that they will have requires that what they exist be supported by the majority of voters who will come to the polling stations, from here they are trying to get out, which means they give, as they say, on the spot, but again here it is necessary, so that the polish ruling elites they remembered historical lessons, and that means how the policy of their spiritual fathers from the twenties and thirties ended, when poland actually managed to quarrel with all its neighbors in the interwar period, yes , that means it was almost the first there, that means it entered into friendly embraces with germany, in the end, how did it end for poland , and how did the polish patrons at that time , great britain and france, behave? yes, they actually betrayed the poles, threw them to the slaughter, which means that now the polish elites are repeating the same mistakes. they mean they create something like this policy of bad neighborliness around their region, artificially whip up hysteria, talking about some mythical belarusian threat , again we see a lie here and continue to pursue policies in the same spirit, focusing on the same great britain, the united states of america, forgetting what this led to orientation before the second world war, about the mythical

belarusian threat, yuri valerievich was among the threats to the polish regime, we found a paper here, we’ll show it now, very interesting. they are judging you, they want to write you down scoundrels, the polish authorities, but the court is somehow strange, it’s a trial in absentia, i don’t know if they gave you a lawyer, what kind of cases these are, you know, a very interesting situation, poland is a democratic country, it declares you like that, that’s why they have trials of politicians in the form of such a stalinist troika, i want to say that for about a year, probably more than a year, i generally sought the right to sue them for the fact that they included me completely illegally, called me a threat to the national security of the european union, so

only a year later, having received this right to sue, i received a paper stating that i would be tried, but without my presence, without the presence of my lawyer and... without a set date for the court hearing, that is, they would send a court decision by mail , well, that’s why our viewers will probably be very curious about how political processes take place in poland, and is it possible to throw a stone after all this, first of all, it concerns our compatriots who are temporarily there, is it possible to throw a stone at our garden, our justice , if we see such egregious things, egregious things are probably unique in jurisprudence. nikolai vegenovich, in general, they have now, if you look, and this example, many others, bother polish society, and many say that we see how many corruption scandals, this story with hundreds of thousands

of issued visas, which in fact in fact, they influence migration crises to a lesser extent on our border, in different parts. how far can your forecast go? i'm not ready to talk about what will happen in poland civil war, because, in general, society itself is not yet ready for such a development of the situation, it does not want to strain itself too much. it has relaxed a little, it doesn’t want to tense up or doesn’t want something like in ukraine to suddenly happen, just about ukraine, this example doesn’t really bother them for one simple reason, that poland is on the sidelines, it received dividends from the ukrainian crisis in the form financial support, replacing its weapons at the expense of the united states,

using its structure as a hub in relation to ukraine, and also wanted to receive territory, no matter what we say, poland is playing its own game here, and as for the polish people, the polish people, they do not feel the burden of this war, only people go there, mercenaries who go there to earn money, having a perspective in their heads that over time they will take a piece of the lviv region, there are also territories there, so to speak, near the border, this is like the icing on the cake in the long term, they thought about it all the time, poland were in leadership positions on the territory of ukraine, because it was, and now that the time has come

to deal with the elections and their own people in ukraine, or more precisely, elections are expected in ukraine, elections in poland, and now there is not a showdown of the people, now there is a showdown of the elites, who in one country in another are trying to stay in power, in ukraine, comrade zelsky, he clearly says: we need to remove the elections or pay me money so that i can hold them, in poland it is even worse, poland tried to play an independent game in the wrong, so to speak, without listening to the recommendations of europe, and here tusk appeared, who is today a european deputy, who pursues the interests of europe and who has now been brought forward as an alternative to the current government, and the things that he says, including, so to speak, scandals related to the sale of visas and other political issues, they clearly... show what is going on inside poland, it has much more internal problems than external ones, and it’s rightly said, our colleague

says that he is now a problem for poland and for the european union, he is not the problem, it’s these politicians and those political powers, those powers and the political steps they are taking, if this continues, ukraine scared many, but it did not teach europe, it only... raised the question: maybe it will cost us more than we expected, just like that, so in my opinion in my opinion, there won’t be a new revolution there, there will be an internal conflict, it may be an internal conflict with certain exits into the street and so on, but they will come to an agreement, the poles will agree among themselves, something like this, alexey viktorich, well, the first thing i would like is a remark, here regarding my neighbor yuri... the situation, of course, is not something unknown in jurisprudence, that is, for some reason poland decided

to bring a citizen of another state located on the territory of another state into its jurisdiction, to judge by its own laws what he did, what crime he committed it, god knows, that’s it, but without giving the opportunity for a citizen of another state to even speak out, not to send his lawyer, without informing when and where this trial will take place, that is, well , i don’t know what... to call it, i’m not a lawyer, but i came across a little bit of jurisprudence, this is in general, that is, even the americans, when they extend their jurisdiction to the whole world, they somehow justify that they have interests, in this case, what opportunities does poland have there, what interests in relation to especially yuri voskresensky, well, it’s even difficult to guess, that is, this is of course complete nonsense, as for relations between ukraine and poland, it was initially clear that two countries that have a very rich, eventful history of mutual conflicts and contradictions, throughout

they had so much history on one side and the other, and facts of genocide , destruction of each other on national grounds, religion, and territorial disputes that have not gone away, what united them now was unconditional russophobia, opposition to russia, this is that they had a common enemy, and at the moment he is forcing them to hug and kiss. as soon as, god forbid, this common enemy no longer exists, the massacre between poland and ukraine will immediately begin automatically, but even now, with the existence of a common enemy, they still have these claims to each other, they have not gone away, we see how part of polish society periodically splashes out these claims into the public space, all these marches of anger take place, the demands of polish nationalists should not be forgotten, and this is emphasized a lot and

the fact that we are seeing now in poland, when they beat ukrainian guest workers there, when they call them names in every possible way, they find fault with them when they do their work as taxi drivers, salesmen or someone else, complete disrespect from some of the polish citizens, that’s for them, there are also claims that we took you here, we water you here, feed you, and here you begin to throw horses away to us, making a claim that you owe us even more. the gap that has now occurred demonstratively, which on the margins of the un resulted in what we talked about at the beginning of the program, the planned meeting , which suddenly did not take place, characterizes it very well, that is, despite the fact that there is a common enemy, it’s all the same everyone has their own national interest, national interest poland, as was rightly noted here, is to turn... into a powerful state within europe, with its own number of allies, to create this intermarium system, where poland plays

the most important role, and poland does this not with the support of europe and brussels, but does it with us support. poland today finds itself in such an interesting situation that it needs, firstly, in front of its own, this is not only the ukrainian sponsor of the united states. the usa is the main point of support for poland, and in its claims to any kind at all. in europe, there will be no usa, poland would have been eaten by germany and france, everyone else would have simply been eaten, so now , as they correctly said, there is, firstly, a dispute for primacy, who is closer to the body of grandfather biden, whether poland or ukraine, yes, to whom should more resources go, and then the question of responsibility for these resources, of course, between poland and ukraine, there will be no real peace and real mutual respect there, because the interests intersect. september, now summing up, we cannot help but remember this date, since we are already talking about poland, for the third time we celebrated day of national unity, a young holiday, but somehow it quickly took its place,

which means it was right at home, we have such a triad on may 9. july 3rd september 17th, let's listen to the president, who at the climax show made very important messages, including for the poles. how can one forget how guns were fired at belarusian villages, how belarusian children were beaten with rods in foreign schools? belarusians, russians, and ukrainians were brutally abused in the polish concentration camp in bereza kartuska. this. this is a fact, but for the sake of friendship with polish people, we overcame this pain, the foreigners took it for weakness, but the lesson was learned, time has shown that our noble desire to live in peace was not

appreciated by our neighbors, i’m not talking about the polish people. all these years thirsty for revenge. well, i think that god heard these words, especially ordinary poles, they sometimes give feedback , we see what they hear, but first of all it was a message, also for belarusians, not specifically this phrase, what was said in the minsk arena, which we should be reminded of by 17 september, what it should teach us, as it should. well, first of all, it should remind us of the role and importance of unity in our history, because if you and i think and look even deeper than september 17, 839, belarus is a geopolitical crossroads, our ancestors have lived and defended on this land for thousands of years would they have the right to live on this land and live as they see fit without the unity of the majority in this goal, of course not, so what the president said

clearly speaks of the importance of unity in our history and land and live as we see fit, and not according to someone else’s interests. yuri valevich, you know, we have entered an era of turbulence, regional conflicts, wars, it seems to me that pandora’s box has been opened, with the story of kosovo, this is where it all began, from my point of view, therefore, at the last meeting with the governor, krasnodarsky, the president, said, yes, yesterday that all we see in ukraine are still flowers, the berries will be ahead, and i agree with him, we are entering a difficult, difficult era, and to maintain stability, calm, in these conditions, it is only possible with a combination of a strong leader, popular unity,

consolidation and a development strategy, but if we have these three things, then we will survive and win, nikolaich. and independence is very expensive; their provision is possible only under the condition of the unity of power of the people. september 17 is a date that teaches us that the belarusian people have endured a lot , they tried to divide them, they tried to destroy them , dividing first one part, then another, despite the most difficult interwar situation, despite the conditions of the riga peace, despite the beginning war, world war ii in europe, the belarusian people managed to unite in these difficult conditions, we returned to each other, we created our common home, now they will again try to separate us in order to destroy us one by one, so we need to understand very clearly: belarusians as a people, as a nation, we must not now allow anyone, along any lines

of division, to alienate us from each other, neither nationally, nor linguistically, nor religiously, if we clearly understand that we have our own country, our own state , one's own nation, for interests that we are ready to fight to the end, and the only red line, as our president said on september 17, is our state border, and we will not allow it to be crossed, then we will survive, thank you very much for this conversation, that’s all for today, see you in week, happily. when you are in nature, it seems that the world