[000:00:00;00] to start a nuclear third world war, based on whose interests it is unclear, not the interests of the ukrainians, because most of the money that comes in today goes to the development of the army, to military affairs, to what they manage to save from theft, yes, from being transferred to offshore companies, from being hidden in one’s own pockets, this is not used for social needs, not for ukrainians, it is used for this conflict, which in the end is this money, just look at this, and the peace formula from nato? here i am quoting must surrender if president vladimir putin russia lays down arms, peace will come, russia is already saying that yes, we also definitely have the same desire for you to surrender, but we are ready to negotiate, that is, on the part of both russia and belarus, they do not sound just calls, but we saw concrete actions that these parties are ready to sit down, sacrifice part of their interests, but achieve something for themselves, that’s what vyacheslav

viktorich is talking about. this is the denazification of ukraine, this is the most important moment, once germany was not completely denazified, we today we see neo-nazism, revived, as in that wonderful film about stirlitz, mueller’s prophetic words were, yes , this cannot be allowed, in russia, with which no one took into account, which was deceived for years, decades and which was driven into a corner, they said that we are expanding to protect themselves from russia, when it didn’t exist at all, they promised not to expand, yes , they promised not to expand, they expanded, under the guise that there might be a danger, and today, when this danger was drawn before russia, it is forced to answer, they say, well, it was not in vain that we expanded, but now i just want to return to stolteng, well, believe me, this statement is the height of cynicism, there is no other way to say it, because a person who does not understand the essence of what is happening even, except for the only one, he heads

the organization. which in recent years has done what it wanted, in europe, in the world and so on, but it’s not an organization, it’s america , through the hands of this organization, to declare that if russia withdraws all weapons, it will destroy them, we have this it's already happened, it's the nineties years of the last century, we cut up weapons, we demilitarized, we destroyed the latest weapons systems, missiles, aircraft , which, according to their characteristics... are significantly higher than what the enemy had, we accomplished all this, at the same time, nato is still on at that moment, less than 20-odd states, they did nothing, they only promised and said, today they are trying to buy us once again with the same, so to speak, to catch us on the same hook of an empty promise, and i would also pay attention, after all

this man, he is broadcasting, he is not broadcasting his thoughts, he... but before that berbock, this is the parsley of modern politics, i can’t call it anything else, he literally declares the same thing: russia must lose, ukraine must win, how, you know what, the best answer can be given to stolteng and berbock, here are two photographs. we found very recent ones, here is one photograph , regarding the fact that russia should capitulate, and let ’s show the second photograph, also the same composition, yes, this is a recent photograph, what is good about it, it conveys the atmosphere, faintly in quotes, of russia and something tells me that the smiles in this photo, at the very moment when they heard stolteng’s proposal, the addition , probably a toast, a toast to victory, after all, well, in general, we

this one has been discussed many times in this studio. one of these prizes should be taken by mr. barel, remember, as a result of the counter-offensive, he said that this was a blow below the belt, that russia was responsible, it must answer for this, and we must impose new sanctions, but that’s why here some politics are already moving into the field of medicine, but in fact, the situation is becoming dangerous. and it seems to me that our western colleagues have begun to understand that zelensky is beginning to get out of control, i want to give an example of even his sparring with his polish partners, just yesterday they were hugging, kissing each other and talking about an unbreakable friendship that will be carried through the centuries, look , what is happening now, each other, they refused to meet, they are suing each

other, accusing each other of all sorts of violations. let's continue their relationship, or rather close this topic it’s becoming increasingly difficult for stolteng to be. even among his own, here are two short opinions, as a verdict, businessman david sachs laid out a map of the military operations in ukraine and noted that the territories occupied in the ssu are so small that they are barely visible on it, and this idea was very accurately continued in the comments by elon musk: so many deaths for such an insignificant result, as for musk himself, the dogs were unleashed on him for refusing to help starlinks in the war against russia, well, the fact that billionaires are not easy is understandable, but another picture: here it catches your eye ws journalist, if next time someone starts telling you about this high western press, remember this propagandist from skynews, it’s true that your ignorance and exorbitant ego led to the death of ukrainians,

one ukrainian official said that with your actions you helped putin, how would you comment on this, vladimir putin called you an outstanding person, mr. musk, do you like that? it's true that ukrainians died because of you. one senior official thinks yes, what are the tags worth? free press, western values, democracy, we looked at it well in 2020, because they are in the west infuriated that the belarusian cauldron did not work out and they had to deploy the ukrainian front, listen to the famous lithuanian deputy zigemantes pavelenis nikaplist, yes, when he throws it in the face, even to fugitives , you didn’t take a single building, but you don’t fight as you should, because the lithuanians and ukrainians understand this, so we looked at your revolution, it’s very wonderful, i myself was everywhere, but we still didn’t understand why you didn’t

they didn’t take one building, why didn’t you fight with these security forces, why did you only walk around with lights, this is a fight, we need to win this freedom, we need to break and fight this regime, who? first second, allegedly a politician of a neighboring state, and we constantly say that neighbors should live with each other normally, neighborly, peacefully, and this person is trying to drive a wedge, to continue the escalation of the situation in belarus, 3 years have passed, we already have glory god they figured out what happened, the majority understood what they wanted here to do, people appeared among themselves the concept of unity of the nation and this miracle appears on a blue eye and tells that someone , and he, what he did in his life, with whom he fought, and why is he talking about it now,

what will be his next step, this is exactly why he said this now, because by any means we need to destabilize the situation in our state, find any reason, like the latvians, like lito... like the poles, they are now running ahead of the rest for the piledrivers to bite belarus, to bite russia, normal players don’t get involved in this yet, that’s it, well, it’s no coincidence that he caresses the american flag, interests , he says, a statesman of another state officially declares, in fact, that lithuania does not accept the current government of the republic of belarus, officially in fact declares that they support. attempts at a coup d'etat, and attempts by force to forcefully change the constitutional system in a neighboring country, well, from the point of view of diplomacy, we, of course, have already lowered the entire possible level of relations with them, but

in my opinion, we still have lithuania's charge d'affaires, but in this case our foreign ministry probably needs to react very seriously somehow, because this means an open declaration of war on our state, if we say so, honestly and without any diplomatic stuff... that is, they themselves came to power illegally within the framework of the then existing ussr, they then spread this criminal scheme for seizing power to other post-soviet countries , regions, we saw how with the support of the same lithuania and others, well, these were small players, but funding also came through them, some of the participants in the events came from them, moreover, after the maidan, lithuania co-opted. the united states and the citizens of georgia ruled ukraine, anyone, but not the ukrainians, when the same biden sat there in

the first places, pushing aside president poroshenko, in short, how to react to that we should react, firstly, ours must react harshly, must be done corresponding statements, what should we do in this case, these threats must understand that they are training terrorists there, we must strengthen within yourself. but to take it seriously, lithuania will not declare war on us, because it doesn’t have it, well, we continue, we touched on a really interesting process in the first part of the program, we are observing warsaw and kiev, until recently they were as close as everyone thought states that are relatives of each other, but people who know history understood how much of an illusion this is, warsaw and kiev, there are a lot of open questions, now

we are seeing, warsaw says: we won’t let your wheat, grain in, ukraine says, and we are in retaliation, which means apples are vegetables, yuri valevich, you know both poland and ukraine very well, what happens is that their bouquet for the candy period has ended, gray everyday life begins, you know, but it never happened, it was all artificially imposed or they hugged and kissed very naturally in the verkhovna rada , because both... actors and those actors, that is, on both sides, but probably their theater is completely different, but now everything has fallen into place, the regime of duda morovetsky kochinsky wants to catch the last car, because in a month them parliamentary elections, they conducted relevant sociological studies and saw that the absolute majority of poles are outraged by the help that is being provided to nazis...

to the zelski regime, by all the expenses for which they did not agree, so pay attention to how suddenly their rhetoric changed dramatically she has even become somewhat belligerent towards ukraine, this desire to jump into the last carriage, this is a coincidence that this maximum aggravation happened just when zelensky flew to meet biden, because with on the other hand, it looks, you know, like a fragment from a soviet film classic, yes, whatever, the fight for the title of beloved wife of comrade sukhov, this also cannot be excluded, this also cannot be excluded, of course, the poles want to pull all the flows completely over themselves, and it would be better for them, so that all this funding goes to them, and as the polish side said, all these weapons come through us, and they would already distribute, a little, of course, according to the polish tradition, biting off a piece of this pie for themselves, but

the main thing from my point of view, the main one is here the motivation for such a conflict that has broken out is certainly the desire to jump into this last carriage, he wants, duda morovechsky kaczynski, this regime, a three-headed hydra , wants to please the polish voter, and the polish voter is dissatisfied, and we see this as a result, including marginal political forces, including those advocating a complete cessation. well, from my point of view, of course, history clearly shows that the relationship between ukraine and poland, given that in fact, now in poland there are ruling elites, the spiritual heirs of those rulers who were in interwar poland in the twenties and thirties, and there politics was built primarily... on lies, rampant nationalism, we are now seeing this in

poland, and here it is clearly polish nationalism, it cannot be reconciled with the ukrainian one, everyone remembers very well this volyn massacre and the claims of the polish authorities that they voiced regarding the eastern seats; in the twentieth year they declared that they needed all of belarus, for example, if we we’re talking about our country, then it’s quite natural here, it means all these deep-seated contradictions, they come out one way or another, everything that was meant like some kind of... it was at the same time and colleagues are absolutely right that the task of those polish ruling the elites today is to stay in power, the election campaign that they will have, it demands, demands that what they exist be supported by the majority of voters who will come to the polling stations, from here they are trying to get out, which means give as it is said on the spot, but again here it is necessary for the polish ruling to remember the historical lessons, which means how their spiritual policy ended.

the thirties, when poland actually managed to quarrel with all its neighbors in the interwar period, yes, that means it was almost the first there, it means it entered into a friendly embrace with germany, in the end, how did it end for poland, and how did the polish patrons behave at that time? time great britain and france, yes, they actually betrayed the poles, threw them to the slaughter, this means that now the polish elites are repeating the same mistakes, they are creating such a policy of dishonesty around their country, they are artificially pumping up syria about some mythical belarusian threat, again we see a lie here, and they continue to pursue the same policy spirit, focusing on the same great britain, the united states of america, forgetting what such an orientation led to. about the polish regime, we found a paper here, its mythical belarusian threat, we have yuri valerievich among the threats to now we will show, very interesting, you are on trial, they want to label

the polish authorities as scoundrels, but the court is kind of strange, it’s a trial in absentia, i don’t know if they gave me a lawyer, what kind of cases these are, but you know, it’s a very interesting situation, poland is a country, democratic, it declares you like this, so trials of politicians take place in the form of such a stalinist troika. i want to say that for about a year, probably more than a year, i generally sought the right to sue them for the fact that they were absolutely illegal, they included me and called me a threat to the national security of the european union, but only a year later having received this right to sue, i received a paper stating that i would be tried, but without my presence, without the presence of my lawyer and without a set date for the court hearing, that is, they will send the court decision by mail, well, that’s probably why our

viewers it will be very interesting how political processes take place in poland, and is it really possible after all this... to throw a stone, first of all it concerns our compatriots who are temporarily there, is it really possible to throw a stone at our garden, our justice, if we see such blatant things, blatant, probably unique in jurisprudence, nikolai evgenievich, in general, if you look at them now, this example and many others bother polish society and many say that we see a number of corruption scandals, that’s... history with hundreds of thousands of visas issued, which in fact affect migration crises to a lesser extent on our border, in different parts of the world, and many have started talking about the fact that after october 15 , it will be hot, to put it mildly, if one remembers the words lehalensa, he said that if duda and peace

stay, expect a civil war, how far can it go, that’s your forecast? i’m not ready to talk about what will happen in poland... in general, society itself is not yet ready for such a development of the situation, it doesn’t want to strain too much, it has relaxed a little, it wants to strain or it doesn’t want something like in ukraine to suddenly happen something about ukraine, this example doesn’t particularly bother them for one simple reason: poland is on the sidelines, it received from the ukrainian crisis dividends in the form of financial support, replacement... its weapons at the expense of the united states, the use of its structure as a hub in relation to ukraine and also wanted to receive territory, no matter what we say, poland is playing its own game here, and as for the polish people

polish, then he doesn’t feel the burden of this war, only people go there, mercenaries who go there to make money, in their heads, having the prospect that they will eventually... take the kusk region, other territories there, so to speak , near the border, it's like a cherry on the cake in the future, they thought about it all the time, you will remember the embrace that ukraine and poland had, permission for polish citizens to be on the territory of ukraine, to occupy leadership positions, because it was, and now that it has come time to deal with the elections and our own people in ukraine. or more precisely, elections are expected in ukraine, elections in poland , and now there is not a showdown between the people, now there is a showdown between the elites, who in one country in another are trying to stay in power, in ukraine, comrade zelsky, he clearly says, we need to remove the elections, or pay me money

so that i can hold them, in poland it’s even worse, poland tried to play an independent game in the wrong, so to speak, without listening to the recommendations of europe. and here tusk appeared, who today is a european deputy who promotes the interests of europe, and who has now been brought forward as an alternative to today’s government. and the things that he says, including, so to speak, scandals related to the sale of visas and the like, political issues, they clearly show what is going on inside poland, it has problems there are significantly more internal ones than external ones. and it’s rightly said, our colleague says that he is now a problem for poland and for the european union, he is not the problem, it’s these politicians and these other authorities who are. powers and political steps

that are not being taken, if this continues, ukraine scared many, but it did not teach europe, it only raised the question before it, maybe it will cost us more than we expected, just like that, so in my opinion , there will not be a new revolution there, there will be internal conflict, it may be an internal conflict with certain exits to the street and so on, but the poles will agree among themselves, something like this. well, first, i would like a remark, regarding my neighbor, yuri, the situation, of course, is not something unknown in jurisprudence, that is , for some reason poland decided to bring a citizen of another state located on the territory of another state into its jurisdiction, judge by his own law, what he did, what crime he committed, his god knows, but... without providing the impossibility for a citizen of another state to even speak out, not to send his lawyer, without informing when and where this

trial will take place, that is, well, i don’t know what to call it, i’m not a lawyer, but a little i came across jurisprudence, this is in general, that is, even the americans, when they extend their jurisdiction to the whole world, they somehow justify that they have interests, in this case, what opportunities does poland have there, what interests, in relation especially to yuri voskresensky, well, it’s even difficult to imagine, that is, of course, this is complete nonsense. regarding relations between ukraine and poland. initially, it was clear that there were two countries that had a very rich, eventful history of mutual conflicts and contradictions. throughout history, they have had so many things on one side and the other, and facts of genocide, destruction of each other based on nationality, religion, and territorial disputes that have not gone away. what united them now was unconditional russophobia, a speech against russia, this is that they had a common enemy, at the moment they are forced

to hug, kiss, as soon as, or god forbid, this common enemy will not exist, this will immediately begin the massacre between poland and ukraine immediately automatically, but even now, with the existence of a common enemy, they still have these grievances against each other , they have not gone away, we see as part of society... polish periodically these grievances spill out into the public space, all these marches of anger take place, and the demands of polish nationalists do not forget massacre, and this is emphasized a lot, and what we are seeing now in poland, when they beat ukrainian guest workers there, when they call them names in every possible way, find fault with them when they do their work as taxi drivers, salesmen or someone else, complete disrespect. on the part of some polish citizens, they also have complaints that we took you here, we water you here, feed you, and here you begin

to throw out some horses for us, make claims that you owe us even more , and the gap that is now happened demonstratively, which on the margins of the un resulted in what we talked about at the beginning of the program, a planned meeting that suddenly did not take place, very well. what characterizes, that is, despite the fact that there is a common enemy, everyone still has their own national interests, the national interest of poland, as was correctly noted here, is to turn into a powerful state within europe, with its own number of allies, to create this intermarium system , where poland plays a crucial role, and poland does not do this with the support of europe and brussels, and does this with the support of the united states. poland today turned out to be such an interesting place. situation, what she needs, firstly, in front of her own, then, this is not only the ukrainian sponsor of the united states.

the usa is the main point of support for poland, and in its claims to any kind of power in europe at all, there will be no usa, poland would have been eaten by germany and france, everyone else would have simply been eaten, so now , as they correctly said, it goes, in- the first is a dispute for primacy, who is closer to the body of biden’s grandfather, whether poland or ukraine, yes, who should receive more resources, and at the same time - the question then of responsibility for these resources is certainly between poland and ukraine in the real world and there will be no real mutual respect there because the interests cross the understanding september 17, to sum it up, we cannot help but remember this date, we are talking about poland for the third time, we celebrated the day of national unity, a young holiday , but he somehow very quickly took his place, which means he came to court, this is our triad: may 9, july 3 , september 17, let's listen to the president, who made very... important messages, including for the poles. how can one forget how guns were fired at belarusian villages, how

belarusian children were beaten with rods in foreign schools? they mocked the belarusians, russians, and ukrainians in the polish concentration camp in bereza kartuska, these are all facts, but for the sake of friendship with the polish people, we stepped over this pain; the noble desire to live in peace, the neighbors did not appreciate it, i’m not talking about the polish people, i’m talking about the elites, politicians, all these years thirsty for revenge, well, i think that for god these words were heard, especially by ordinary poles , they sometimes give feedback, we see what

they hear, but first of all it was a message... also for belarusians, not specifically this phrase, and what was heard in the minsk arena, what should september 17 remind us of, what should it teach us, how should it mobilize today’s belarusians? well, first of all, it should remind us of the role of the importance of unity in our history, because if you and i think about it and look even deeper than 17 september 839, belarus is a geopolitical crossroads, our ancestors have lived on this land for thousands of years and they would have defended their right to live on this land and... since they consider it necessary without the unity of the majority in this goal, of course not, that’s why , what the president said, this clearly speaks of the importance of unity in our history, unity, which gives us the right to live on this land and live as we see fit, and not in favor of someone else’s interests, yuri valerievich, you know, you we

have entered an era of turbulence, regional conflicts, wars, it seems to me that pandora’s box was hidden from the story of kosovo, that’s where it all started, from my point of view, so at the last meeting with the governor of krasnodar, the president said, yes yesterday, that everything we see in ukraine, these are still flowers, the berries will be ahead, and i agree with him, we are entering a difficult, difficult era, and we must maintain stability and calm in these conditions. is possible only by combining a strong leader, popular unity, consolidation and development strategy, if we have these three things, this means we will stand and win, nikolai, sovereignty and independence are very expensive, their provision is possible only under the condition of the unity of power of the people.

september 17 is a date that teaches us that belarus ... the people have endured a lot, they tried to divide it, they tried to destroy it, dividing first one part, then another, despite the most difficult interwar situation, despite the conditions of the riga peace, despite the beginning of the second world war in europe, the belarusian people managed to unite in these difficult conditions, we returned to each other, we created their common home, now they will try to separate us again in order to destroy us one by one, so we need to understand very clearly that belarusians as a people, as a nation have been established, we must not now allow anyone along any lines of division to alienate us from each other. nationally, neither linguistically, nor religiously, if we clearly understand that we have our own country, our own state, our own nation, for interests that we are ready to fight to the end, and the only red line, as our president said, september 17th, this is ours state border, and we won’t let you

cross it, then we will survive, thank you very much. for this conversation, that’s all for today,