[000:00:00;00] at the same time, a statement was made by turkish president erdogan, who said: “we continue our efforts with the conviction that the war has no winners and the world has no losers, and i would continue, erdogan’s thought in the words that our president said, it’s time to sit down at the negotiating table , only peace can solve some situations in ukraine. and this thesis, which by the way, you and i, belarus , has been constantly sending in all directions for, well, i don’t know, the last year and a half, it is finally beginning to have response, this is not for not because we were heard, no, the objective situation is simply developing in such a way that in ukraine there are two options for the development of events, first, russia fulfills all its obligations, these are horror stories, fulfills the goals that it has planned,

and it’s not that this is a geopolitical blow to the west against all countries that are now opposed to it, the second option is that it loses only part of the territory and remains in an incomprehensible status, and this is an area, a gray zone and incomprehensibility of what is happening in the near future, and the current president of ukraine, who arrived at this summit again, as always, in paramilitary uniform and brought his wife , who is dressed in military style, for what it is not clear, because the main politicians do not take it, that is, he plays his role to the end, but he they are already pointing out, that’s enough , the scenario is changing, these are the directions that should be in the future, in the future we will still have to negotiate, yuri valerievich, i will support nikolai evgenievich, of course, the visit is connected, it looks more like such a hysterical voyage is associated with the results of the so-called counter-offensive, despite the fact that in the ukrainian

information field space. in fact, this is not so, more than 70,000 ukrainian military personnel died, a huge amount of equipment, including, during this counter-offensive, for the first time in world history , they burned, for example, british equipment, their famous challenger tank, yes, that’s what we remember, that is a complete failure, russia is grinding, the armed forces of ukraine, because in military science there is a certain percentage, after which, when the grinding will reach, when my colleagues won’t allow me to collect , a certain percentage, everything will begin to collapse in geometric progression, this is the motivation of the armed forces, the fighters of these armed formations, and that means everything connected with this,

so russia has already practically achieved it. achieved these results, maybe another 1, 2, 3 months, probably, it’s difficult to make forecasts, but in any case, the strategic result is clear, so zelsky as an actor and, as always, he plays all-in, as they say, yes, he puts everything, and he rides with his presence, including in such a military shell, he wants to be supported and pushed further. on the russian federation, but this is no longer possible, because in the west there are think tanks they see the results, and it seems to me that blinken’s recent visit to kiev is connected with that, and then the subsequent visit of the german foreign minister, for no reason whatsoever that’s why, it seems like they’re there to check something, say hello, check their watches, it seems to me that their

visits are connected with the fact that it’s starting. colleagues correctly said, it is a clear defeat for the west, it is unacceptable from the point of view western elites, this will be a geopolitical catastrophe for them, so we urgently need to drag the situation into the path of peaceful negotiations, here is alexey viktorovich, we are seeing that there, well, firstly, we need to say that our delegation is working these days, on the sidelines of the general assembly, led by the minister of foreign affairs, in addition to the speech, there are many bilateral meetings, but when you watch all this and this sudden frankness of the un, adherence to principles, when they have already plucked up courage and are asking, trying to set the direction for zelsky, is this why what happens is that there is a crisis in the influence of the organization on the one hand, on the other hand the growth of the influence of such unions as the sco, like brix, for us, for example, at the moment the un

is still the one to which we must tune in as much as possible or for us a vector the main one is those large unions in which we are either already a member or on the path of joining, so look at the matter - the organization of the united nations and ukraine, the ukrainian crisis itself and the hot phase in which it has now entered, in fact a war, in which more and more participants are getting involved in one way or another, it’s not only now the conflict between russia and ukraine itself, and not only the usa and western europe supporting ukraine there, we see the involvement of a lot more players, turkey, iran, which seems to be helping russia a little, it's already recent now. one way or another , everyone’s reaction to the ukrainian events, there is a demonstration of the great powers of the developing world, for example, and

india, yes, frankly, at the recent g20 summit, such openly anti-ukrainian performance, the impossibility of 20, not inviting him there, that’s all. what does it mean, the conflict was not stopped by the organization that was created in order to prevent these conflicts, the un , after the end of the cold war, not only relaxed, but the un, in fact, we see, has become the mouthpiece of pro-western ideas, pro-western thoughts, it has turned into an instrument of precisely one side, today, as colleagues correctly said, in conditions when this western part is beginning to lose militarily, which has been playing this for a long time conflict in ukraine, it cannot be in the active phase of hostilities, we see that now ukraine is already actively moving from military operations directly at the front to terror, a terrorist state that

bombs russian territories with its drones, is trying to carry out attacks that are carried out by outright terrorist attacks, including attempts on our territory, as we have seen, yes, he hires mercenaries and tries to act, what is this? the method of terror, what is it talking about, you cannot decide, so to speak, in a fair fight the question is, you don’t have enough strength, so you start doing shit from under the gun, you start striking not at the military infrastructure, but at civilians, sowing chaos, panic, trying to create an unhealthy state of mind, public thoughts, and this everything can spread further, it’s not just russia-belarus, it will work. further and further, when the same terrorist actions begin in the world, the task of the un was, in order to prevent all this, they should have started the negotiation process, they

should have, perhaps by force, seated at the table negotiations, it was belarus that started, belarus began to invite both ukrainian and russian negotiators to its territory in the very first days of a special military operation. we need such an organization, the question is, do we need it, of course, no one is now saying that we should here tomorrow. take the key, hang the lock, everyone has gone to the front , no, this organization has been created, there are international standards, documents that regulate its activities, but we see that objectively it needs reform, that’s how since there is a lot at this session, that’s exactly the question, i’ll try to clarify it, maybe the moment has been missed, we see the decline of the un, the beginning we can talk about what, that you just said correctly, today the un should probably have different structure. today the un must take into account the interests of not individual players, not individual states, here we are talking, the general assembly makes decisions by a majority vote, where all un member countries participate, well

, of course, excuse me, but if india’s vote is equal to the vote of some tuvaluan leaving under water, which has already been completely digitized and they say, well, our country will completely disappear as a territory, but we will remain in the digital world, but this is not entirely correct, man, where is the huge developing economy, the voice of an island state that will soon disappear altogether, the question is here it’s right, perhaps now the un should reorient itself towards the interaction of these blocs, structures, yes there is nato, there is the european union, there is this conditional pro-western bloc, there is the sco, there is the g20, there is the g7, the 20 is already a conventional name, given the adoption of the union, there are other organizations. there in south america, in asia in africa, african and so on, that is, there should be such a new one, let’s go further, vyacheslav viktorovich, we touched on the topic of zelsky in nagenaslei, but we understand,

the media have already reported that there is a meeting with biden, what do you think zelsky and elder will be talking about in belarus ? i wanted please note, there really is no alternative to peace negotiations on ukraine, yes, but at the same time, the goal of denazification and demilitarization of ukraine must be achieved, otherwise 5, 10 years will simply pass, and this conflict will resume with renewed vigor, in a certain sense, this is the kind of respite the west needs , so that they can regroup again , he said, our task is to saturate it with such weapons that it will be, economist, now we will just continue, economist, bring it up. their readers to this conclusion:

ukraine must win, otherwise it will have to to look for the guilty, also and another option, what was also voiced today, the western elites who actively support ukraine, if they do not receive defeat in ukraine, of course, this is a blow to them, yes, that means they will have to explain where share these multi-billion dollar expenses, the money invested , yes, that means maintaining the combat capability of ukraine is why it ended in a fiasco, so naturally, these things also play a role here, i think. that of course there will be a certain message, which means the implementation of peace negotiations, but of course, that means the west will strive to defend its own, to maintain its influence on this ukrainian territory, which means so as not to let go , so as not to completely lose its authority in the eyes of its own population, which means in the international arena, but on the other hand, i emphasize once again, there must be a clear position , definitely, this cannot be compromised on the demilitarization and demilitarization of ukraine, at the meeting in sochi of the two presidents of belarus and russia, journalists... about the attitude towards peaceful prospects with ukraine, after

blinkin’s recent visit to kiev, this topic was noticeably became more active, let me remind you that the us secretary of state then announced kiev’s readiness and that moscow should take the initiative, they say it takes two to tango, so what do putin and lukashenko think about this? it’s good there, i think it’s important for ukraine to forget it, this is what’s important. they will always dance to someone else's music and dance to someone else's music. it seems like three rounds of negotiations began, three rounds of negotiations took place in belarus, then in istanbul, and then blinkin zelsky, they gave a command, they gave a command, he forbade negotiations, the facts are on table, the facts are clear, so what’s there to rebuke someone, he signed the decree, absolutely right, the one prohibiting himself was prohibited, a truly absurd situation on the part of

zelsky and. the question is yes, ukraine today, the ukrainian leadership, zelsky and his entourage, where do they come from when they take their steps, so zelsky went to the un now, this is what he said literally this night, he said such things that everyone is terrified, in fact, sensible people put their heads together and said, lord, you that they once removed nuclear weapons from ukraine, because, while blaming russia, he actually stated that if ukraine had these weapons now, it would have already used them, that is, he would have been ready to unleash a nuclear third world war, it’s not even clear based on whose interests, not the interests of the ukrainians, because most of the money that comes in today goes to the development of the army, to military affairs, to what they manage to save from theft and from being transferred to offshore companies, from hiding it in

one's own pockets, it does not go well social needs, not for ukrainians, it goes towards this conflict, which ultimately this money just look at this, while the peace formula from nato, here i quote , stosia must surrender if president vladimir putin, russia lays down its arms, advances the world says, russia says that yes , we also definitely have the same desire for you to surrender, but we are ready to negotiate, that is, on the part of russia. and belarus there are not just calls, but we have seen concrete actions that these parties are ready to sit down and sacrifice part of their interests, but to achieve something for oneself, that’s what vyacheslav viktorovich is talking about, the denazification of ukraine, this is the most important moment, once upon a time they didn’t denazify germany completely, today we see neo-nazism revived, as in that wonderful film about sttiritsa prophetic mürler’s words were, but... this cannot be allowed, in russia, with

which no one took account, which was deceived for years, decades and which was driven into a corner, they said that we are expanding nato in order to prevent ourselves from russia when it there was none at all, they promised not to expand, they promised not to expand, they expanded, hiding behind the fact that there might be a danger, and today, when this danger was depicted in front of russia, it is forced to answer, they say, well, it was not in vain that we expanded, but here i am now, in recent years, it has done whatever it wanted in europe, in the world, and so on, but it’s not the organization, it’s america, through the hands of this organization, to declare that if russia withdraws all weapons, it will destroy them, in our country this

has already happened, this is the nineties of the last century, we cut weapons, we demilitarized, we destroyed the latest weapons systems, missiles, aircraft, which... are significantly higher than what the enemy had, we accomplished all this, at the same time, all of nato at that time was less than 20-odd states , they didn’t do anything, they only promised and said, today they are trying to buy us once again with the same, so to speak , to catch us on the same hook of an empty promise, and i would also pay attention, because this man, he broadcasts, he is not his own he broadcasts thoughts, he broadcasts the thoughts of the west, united, not united , it doesn’t matter, the golden billion, well, somehow, well, we somehow use this phrase, there are fewer of them, but before that, berbock, this is the parsley of modern

politics, call it another way i can’t, he says the same thing, literally, russia must lose, ukraine must win, how, you know what, here is nikolai evgenevich, the best answer can be given to stolteng and berbock, we found photographs, very recent, here is one photograph, regarding that russia must capitulate, and let's we’ll show the second photograph, also the same composition, yes, this is a recent photograph, what’s good about it, it conveys the atmosphere, weak in quotes, of russia, and something tells me that the smiles in this photograph are exactly at the moment when they we heard stolteng’s proposal, an addition, probably a toast toast to victory, after all, well, in general, we, we discussed it many times in this studio, so... european politicians, probably one of these prize places should be taken by mr. barel, remember, as a result of the counterattack, he said that this was a blow below the belt, that russia, therefore, was responsible, it must answer for this and we must impose new sanctions, but

therefore here some kind of politics is already moving into the field of medicine, but in fact, the situation. dangerous and it seems to me that our western colleagues have begun to understand that zelsky is beginning to get out of control, i want to give an example of even his sparring with his polish partners, just yesterday they were hugging, kissing and talking about an unbreakable friendship that will be carried through the centuries, look , what is happening now, each other, they refused to meet, they are suing each other friend, all sorts of accusations are made. violations, this literally happened in just a matter of days, this indicates that he is getting out of control, and this topic will touch on poland and ukraine, their relations, we will continue, or rather, close this topic, it is increasingly difficult for international stolteng to be convincing even among his own, here are two short opinions, as a verdict, businessman david sachs posted a map of the fighting in ukraine and noted that

the territories occupied in sow are so small that they are barely visible on it, this idea was very accurately continued in the comments by elon musk, so much. deaths for such an insignificant result. as for musk himself, dogs were unleashed on him for refusing to help starlinks in the war against russia. well, the fact that billionaires are not easy is understandable, but another picture here catches the eye of the ws journalist. the next time someone starts telling you about this high western press, remember this propagandist from skynews. it is true that your ignorance and exorbitant ego led to the death of ukrainians. one ukrainian official said: musk, do you like it? it's true that ukrainians died because of your ignorance and self-importance, one senior official thinks so.

we took a good look at what a free press, western values, and democracy are worth to the bir in 2020, because they are infuriated in the west that the belarusian cauldron did not work out, and they had to. why didn’t you fight these security forces, why did you just act like saints? this is a struggle, we must win this freedom, we must break and fight this regime. who is saying this question deputy first second supposedly

a politician of a neighboring state and we are constantly we say that neighbors should live with each other normally, neighborly, peacefully, and this person is trying to drive a wedge, to continue the escalation of the situation in belarus, 3 years have passed, thank god we have already figured out what happened, the majority. .. i understood what they wanted to do here, people among themselves appeared the concept of unity of the nation and this miracle appears on a blue eye and tells that someone, and he, what he did in his life, with whom he fought, and why he’s talking about it now, what will be his next step, that’s exactly what he’s talking about this is why he said this now, because by any means necessary to destabilize the situation in our state, to find any reason, like the latvians, like the lithuanians, like the poles, they are now running ahead of the rest for the pile drivers, to bite belarus, to bite

russia, normal players don’t get involved in this yet, that’s it, well, it’s no coincidence that he has an american flag to caress, colleagues, he says, a statesman of another state officially declares, in fact, that lithuania does not accept the current government of the republic of belarus, officially in fact states that. support attempts at a coup d'etat, and attempts by force to forcefully change the constitutional system in a neighboring country, well, from the point of view of diplomacy, we, of course, have already lowered the entire possible level of relations with them, but in my opinion we still have lithuanians as attorneys-in-charge, in this case our foreign ministry probably needs to react very seriously somehow, because this means an open declaration of war on our state, if we say so, honestly and without any kind of stuff , that is, they came to power on their own

illegally within the framework of the then existing ussr, they then spread this criminal scheme for seizing power to other post-soviet countries, regions, we saw how, with the support of the same lithuania and others, well, these were small players, but financing also came through them, they came from and partly participants in the events, moreover, after the maidan, lithuania co-opted its minister into the ukrainian government, a citizen of the lithuanian state, who was the minister of ukraine, just as there were us citizens and georgian citizens ruled ukraine, anyone, but not the ukrainians, when the same biden was sitting there in the first places , pushing aside president poroshenko, in short, how to react to the tawa, how should we react, firstly, our foreign ministry should react harshly, appropriate statements should be made that we should treat in this case, from the point of view of influence, lithuania, for example, in comparison with belarus is a dwarf, let's face it, of course we must

understand these threats that they are training terrorists there, we must strengthen our vigilance within ourselves, but take them seriously, lithuania they won’t declare war on us, because she doesn’t have it, well, we continue, we touched on a really interesting process in the first part of the program, we are on... warsaw and kiev, just recently so close, so, as everyone thought, family states to each other, but people who know history understood how much of an illusion the proximity of warsaw and kiev is, we are seeing a lot of open questions now, warsaw says we won’t let in your wheat, grain, ukraine says, and we are in retaliation, which means apples are vegetables, yuri valevich, you very good you know both poland and ukraine, what happens, i finished their bouquet for the candy period, everyday life begins? you know, but it never existed, it was all artificial, imposed

, they hugged and kissed very naturally in the verkhovna rada, of course, because both those actors and those actors, that is, on both sides, but probably the theater they are completely different, but now everything has fallen into place, the regime of duda morovechsky kochinsky wants to catch the last carriage, because in a month they have parliamentary elections. they spent relevant sociological studies have seen that the vast majority of poles are outraged by the help that is being provided to the nazi regime of zelski, and by all the expenses for which they did not consent, so pay attention to how suddenly their rhetoric changed dramatically, it became, even in some way bellicose in relation to this, it’s a coincidence that this maximum aggravation happened just when zelsky’s flight to meet biden,

because from the outside it looks, you know, like - fragments from soviet film classics, yes, what about the fight for the title of comrade sukhov’s beloved wife, tova, this also cannot be excluded, this also cannot be excluded, of course, the poles want to pull all the flows completely over themselves, and it would be better for them if all this funding went to them , and as the polish side said, all these weapons come through us, and they would have already distributed them, a little, of course, according to the polish tradition, taking a bite for themselves. a piece of this pie, but the main thing from my point of view, the main motivation for such a conflict, which flared up, this is certainly a desire to jump into this last carriage, he wants, duda morowiecki kaczynski, this regime, a three-headed hydra, wants to please the polish voter, and the polish voter is dissatisfied, and we see this as a result,

including marginal political forces , including the forces advocating a complete... cessation of funding for the zelsky regime, are beginning to gain certain percentages, are emerging from this marginal het from this sociological error. vyacheslav viktorovich, well, from my point of view, of course however, history clearly shows that the relationship between ukraine and poland, given the fact that in fact now in poland there are the ruling elites, the spiritual heirs, of those rulers who were in interwar poland in the twenties and thirties, and politics was built there . all on the lies of ungodly nationalism, we are now seeing this in poland, and here it is clear that polish nationalism cannot be reconciled with ukrainian, everyone remembers very well this volyn massacre and the claims of the polish authorities that they voice regarding the eastern crosses, and in the twentieth year they declared that they needed all of belarus, for example, if we are talking about our country, then it is quite natural here, which means that all these deep-seated contradictions, they come

out one way or another, all that, that there was, sort of... some kind of rapprochement , it was instantaneous, and it is absolutely right, colleagues, that the task of those polish ruling elites today is to stay in power, the election campaign that will take place for them , it demands, demands that what they exist, it be supported by the majority of voters who will come to the polling stations, from here they are trying to get out, which means they give, as they say, on the spot, but again here it is necessary for the polish ruling elites to remember historical lessons, which means how the policy of their... spiritual fathers ended from the twenties and thirties, when poland actually managed to quarrel with all its neighbors in the interwar period , yes, that means it was almost the first there, that means it entered into friendly embraces with germany, in the end, how did it end for poland, and how the polish patrons at that time, great britain and france, behaved themselves, yes, they actually betrayed the poles, threw them to the slaughter , which means that now the polish elites are repeating the same mistakes, which means they are creating

such a policy of dishonesty around their region, artificially intensifying it. speaking about some mythical belarusian threat, again we see a lie here and continue to pursue policies in the same spirit, focusing on the same great britain, the united states of america, forgetting what such an orientation led to before the second world war, about mythical belarusian threat, yuri valerievich turned out to be among the threats to the polish regime, we found a paper here, we ’ll show it now, it’s very interesting, they are trying you, they want to write you down as a scoundrel, the polish government? but the court is kind of strange, it’s a process in absentia, i don’t know if they gave me a lawyer, what kind of cases these are, you know, a very interesting situation, poland is a democratic country, it declares you like that, so here are the trials of politicians they are happening in the form of such a stalinist troika, i

want to say that for about a year, probably for more than a year i generally sought the right to sue them, for the fact that they included me completely illegally, they called me a threat to the national security of the european union, but only a year later , having received this right to sue, i received a paper stating that they would sue me, but without my presence, without the presence of my lawyer and without a set date for the court hearing, that is, the court decision, they will send by mail, uh, well, so our viewers will probably be very curious about how political processes in poland, and after all this is it possible to throw a stone, first of all it concerns our compatriots who are temporarily there, is it possible to throw a stone at our garden, our justice, if we see such