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tv   [untitled]  BELARUSTV  September 27, 2023 10:00am-11:01am MSK

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remove the hell of the garadian metusna, here are your punishments and your strength, go ahead to help yourself. zavolіtsa i atrymat asalod ad momentu, naravak popodka stihija, kozhny krok, yadnannya z prorodaya, dzikaya , diligent, your tree. belarus is getting worse.
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belarus is an amazing country with its own interesting past, full of legends and traditions.
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look, what a curious little thing i found, it’s not just a piece of iron sticking out of the wall, it ’s a polish geodetic sign, i’ve only seen a couple of these in belarus, rich in cultural heritage and hospitable people, i wish i could put on a luxurious floor-length dress now and be blown away by the subsounds of this ancient 19th-century piano, and don’t even ask what to dance , of course, a polonaise, a country with interesting tourist places. the temple is actually very unusual, i personally have the feeling that this is some kind of... then a watchtower, with such powerful fortress walls just begging to be surrounded, and this is the same boulder that is popularly called god’s stone, if you believe history, this stone has been worshiped since ancient times, not only locals, but also residents come here to see it from nearby areas, travel with us to belarus.
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24, hello, we welcome everyone who is with us now, we are glad to have the guests who are in our studio today, but let’s start with, of course , nagorno-karabakh, the situation around it, we see the aggravation that has happened now, the difficult situation, taking into account the fact that both states are not strangers to us, we of course understand perfectly well that we need to make balanced assessments here and try to be as objective as possible, although when you look at the facts, you understand that you understand that this could not have happened without external influence, that
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many people are rubbing their hands at this moment, it is very difficult to maintain objectivity , nevertheless, we will try, nikolai evgenievich, in your opinion, this is the current aggravation, what is it about, why is it leading to what, first of all, it is about the fact that no matter how funny it may sound, the stage of reconstruction of the world has entered a hot phase, we talked about this approximately a month ago, that in the near future, literally, probably at that time, we said, in the coming months there will be escalation of conflicts in various points, and as an option , nagorno-karabakh, moldova, and a number of other points were named, this is the reality of our forecasts at the moment, which means that it concerns: situations, such conflicts that have been playing for a long time, having deep historical roots, such as you said correctly, it requires a balanced approach. in this situation, the governments of both armenia and azerbaijan are solving their problems.
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by the way, the liberation of nagorno-karabakh, one of the strategic tasks prescribed in all documents of azerbaijan, namely liberation, they consider it from this side. as for armenia, today it wanted to sit on two chairs, unfortunately, today this does not happen, remember the phrase a little pregnant, this is exactly how it turns out, on the one hand, on one platform it is stated that we are ready to recognize, uh, independence karabakh as part of azerbaijan, on the other hand, by all means, escalation occurs, escalation under the influence of external facts, in the general picture of the world, this is another... point instability, which is used to resolve contradictions between the world's leading states. the tension can really be seen even in yesterday’s information flow, just a couple of headlines for those who are trying to restore the picture.
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first, we heard the ministry of defense of azerbaijan announced the start of anti-terrorism measures in karabakh, then pashinyan made accusations, saying that azerbaijan was trying to drag armenia into full-scale military action, then we saw that negotiations with macron had pashianyan was with blinkin. france demanded an emergency meeting of the un security council. the kremlin calls on yerevan and baku, yesterday we heard about this to follow the previously signed trilateral documents, well then we saw what was happening on the streets of armenia, protesters came out, and pashinyan himself said that in an attempt at a coup, people demand pashinyan’s resignation. well, we have been observing all day today how, in general, the tension does not subside. alexey viktorovich, how do you look at all this? well, here you need to understand firstly, that of course, inciting this conflict is one of the chains of confrontation between the west and russia, that is, the task of escalating all possible conflicts along the russian border,
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it has been standing for a long time and the karabakh conflict is very convenient here. moreover, we see that this current escalation occurred after armenia, led by such an openly pro-western president, decided to begin gradually distancing itself from participation in the csto, from interaction with russia, as if showing that it does not currently have trust in the russian side as a peacemaker and guarantor of this at least some fragile peace, and a whole series of such ambiguous steps taken by the armenian... head of state, which led to the fact that there were actually maneuvers with the americans, which led to an active diplomatic skirmish, to the appearance of some
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heads of state in absolutely anti-russian places, all this led to something, that is, there was a feeling that armenia was leaving this pro-russian camp are no longer under russian guarantees, it is clear that the situation around nagorno-karabakh itself is very difficult, its status , that is, the armenian side is there, we respect it very much, and these are also our friends and allies in the odb, in the ias, in cis, here, but in this case, the armenian side showed what my colleague correctly said, an attempt to sit on two chairs, and maybe even... more, in this case, the very first step that could show the priorities of armenia itself, this would be their clear position in regarding nagorno-karabakh or artsakh, as they call it, and this position was expressed by pashiyan and he was subjected to significant condemnation in his society, that
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nagorno-karabakh, aka artsakh, is an integral part of azerbaijan, that is, it was essentially just a surrender that whole long-term struggle, the armenians for the return of ethnic territories that are legally azerbaijani, the conflict is very complex, we don’t want to get up now, this is an armenian matter. objectively we can say that guys, let's sort it out between yourself, that is, that for you the same nagorno-karabakh region, because when now there are attempts, firstly , to say that the csto does not work, russia does not work, how can it work if you yourself do not consider it possible to defend the territories , if nikola pashinyan says that there are no armenian forces at all in nagorno-karabakh , that is, then the question arises: if
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azerbaijan is conducting an anti-terrorist operation on its territory, and there is not even the presence of armenian citizens there, what questions then could there be for azerbaijan? if there there is the presence of armenian citizens, there is a threat to them, you are going to take them under protection , well then you will indicate this in the public space, it is very difficult, of course, this responds to us with pain, because armenia... is our ally, we cooperate quite well in recent years, we have increased trade and economic interaction with armenia within the eac, very seriously, so we support cultural initiatives, we greatly respect the armenian people and support the integrity of armenia, but we also have good friendly relations with azerbaijan, this too our political friend, this is also a country with which we have very close ties, in this case we are in this mutual ... little friend to which we are not directly attached, we cannot enter as an active party, but we
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can offer, and this was stated, because our president, and the russian side emphasizes, there is no military solution , here you can only negotiate, because of course, no one wants ethnic genocide on either side, these are terrible things, belarusians, who once upon a time we felt it ourselves, we understand very clearly here that we must help to ensure that such a situation does not arise under any circumstances. well, really, if you look, if there is even such a non-human question, but unfortunately, ukraine did not become a lesson in the fact that every step you take is necessary, especially in the current world, in general, you need to be prudent in order to avoid bloodshed , where diplomacy can and should work, is this not what we are seeing now in nagorno-karabakh, unfortunately, yes, indeed it is, very in many countries, today's ruling elites do not learn their lessons. from history or from those events that take place in the world, yes, it means that epochs, it turns out, plunge the destinies
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of entire nations, which means into the furnace of other people’s interests, naturally, this leads to the collapse of statehood and other terrible things that we are seeing today in ukraine , unfortunately, regarding other points of tension, and here similarly, also absolutely correctly, nikolai evgenievich noted that in fact this is in the interests of the united states, america and with them, the maximum is the presence of such conflicts along the perimeter of the russian federation in order to weaken it in fact, and the only sad thing here is that the hostages of this whole situation are people, the peoples of entire states who collide with each other, wage these wars not in their own interests, but to ensure someone else’s interests is sad, absolutely, well, then let’s move on to the next topics, larger ones, especially since one way or another, what is happening now around nagorno-karabakh intersects with what what is happening now, let’s call it that, in ukraine, although the front is much wider than geographically, what is still modern ukraine. the world's attention these days is focused on new york
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, the un high-level week has opened. more and more often it sounds like the organization is no longer the same, but there is no other way to bring together such different concepts of the world order in one place. but there is a topic that seems to concern everyone: is it time to wind down on the ukrainian front? the guardian calls the presence of the president of ukraine at the un summit the greatest geopolitical drama of the week. well, the director of the analytical center. people's crisis group prion richard gowen described zelsky's decision to participate in the event as a gamble. if zelsky goes to the general assembly in the security council and insists that ukraine must continue to fight, and that now is not the time for diplomacy, i think he will receive serious rebuff, that’s what he said. is this what they nikolai evgenievich are hinting at in this way? or is this no longer a hint, an insistent demand? on my look, this is already a requirement. since in recent years, literally since 2021
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, the russian federation has been a bogeyman everywhere and almost no one supports its position but opposes the counterbalance. these are the first sensible, so to speak, thoughts that appeared on the western side, not the allies, but on the western side, from the point of view of how the crisis of this situation could develop. on the. finally some sound notes have appeared, it’s time to sit down at the negotiating table, and he, i’ll just add, when he said this phrase, this comrade govan, he said that i rely on the opinion of the majority. africa , asia and latin america, there was a parallel statement from turkish president erdogan, who said: “we continue our efforts with the conviction that war has no winners and peace has no losers.” and i would continue erdogan’s thought with the words that our president said: it’s time to sit down at the negotiating table, only peace can solve some situations in
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ukraine. and this thesis, which, by the way, you and i, belarus, has been throughout, well, i don’t know. the last year and a half constantly we are directing everything in all directions, it is finally beginning to have a response , this is not for not because we were heard, no, the objective situation is simply developing in such a way that in ukraine there are two options for the development of events, first, russia fulfills everything taken on obligations, these are horror stories, fulfills the goals that she has planned, and this is not that this is a geopolitical blow to the west against all countries that are now opposed to her, the second option, she loses only part of the territory and remains in an unclear status, but this is an area of ​​gray zone and incomprehensibility of what is happening in the near future, and the current president of ukraine, who arrived at this summit, again, as
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always, in a paramilitary uniform and brought his wife, who is dressed in military style, for which it is not clear, because the main politicians are not he likes it so much, he will play his role to the end, that is, he plays his role to the end , but they are already telling him, enough is enough, the scenario is changing, these are the directions that should be in the future, in the future you will still have to negotiate, yuri valerievich, i will support nikolai evgenievich, of course, the visit is connected, it is more like such a hysterical voyage connected with the results of the counter-offensive , the so-called, despite the information field, space, they talk about sensational successes, in fact this is not so, more than 70,000 ukrainian military personnel died , a huge amount of equipment, including , during this counter-offensive, for the first time in world history, they burned, for example, british equipment,
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their famous challenger tank, what will be remembered by the counterattack, and what will be remembered, that is complete... failure, russia is grinding down the armed forces of ukraine, because well , in military science, there is a certain percentage , after which, when the grinding reaches, as colleagues will not let you lie, a certain percentage, everything will begin to collapse in geometric progression, this is the motivation of the armed fighters of these armed formations, and that means everything connected with this. therefore, russia has already practically achieved, has achieved these results, maybe one, two, three more months, probably, it’s difficult to make forecasts, but in any case the strategic result is clear, so zelsky as an actor and, as always, he plays all-in, as they say, yes, he puts everything, and he goes with his presence, including in
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such a military shell, he wants to be... and pushed further on the russian federation, but this is no longer possible, because in the west there are think tanks they see the results, and it seems to me that blinken’s recent visit to kiev is connected with that, and then the subsequent visit of the german foreign minister, for no reason whatsoever why, it seems like there ’s something to check, say hello, check your watches, it seems to me that their visits are connected with the fact that they are beginning to force him into negotiations, because colleagues correctly said, a clear defeat of the west, it is unacceptable from the point of view of the western elites, it will be a geopolitical catastrophe for them, so it is urgent to drag the situation into the path of peaceful negotiations but to alexey viktorovich, we
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are observing that there, well, firstly, it must be said that our delegation is working these days, on the sidelines of the general assembly, headed by the minister of foreign affairs. in addition to the speech , there are many bilateral meetings, but that’s when you observe all this and this sudden frankness of the un, adherence to principles, when they have already gained the courage to ask, try to give direction to zelsky, is this not because this is happening because the crisis of the organization’s influence on the one hand, on the other hand the growth of the influence of such unions as the sco, like brix, for us, for example, today the un. this is still the organization that we should tune in to as much as possible, or for us the main vector is those large unions in which we are either already a member or on our way introduction. so, look, regarding the united nations and ukraine, the ukrainian crisis itself and the hot phase it has now entered is, in fact, a war
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in which more and more participants are being involved in one way or another, it’s not just a conflict now itself russia with ukraine, and not only the united states supporting ukraine there , western europe, we see the attraction of a mass of players, turkey, iran, which seems to be helping. a little bit of russia, now kimchen’s recent visit to russia, where also there was a conversation about possible military-technical cooperation, one way or another the reaction to the ukrainian events of everyone, there was a demonstration of the great powers of the developing world, for example , and india, yes, frankly, at the recent g20 summit, such an open anti-ukrainian speech, the inability to give the floor to zelsky at j20, inviting him there, that’s what all this says, the conflict was not stopped by the organization that was created in order to prevent these conflicts, the un
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after the end of the cold war, not just relaxed, and the un, in fact, we see, has become today the mouthpiece of pro-western ideas, pro-western thought, the un has turned into an instrument of precisely one side, today, as colleagues correctly said, in conditions when this western part is beginning to lose militarily, for a long time playing this conflict in ukraine , but it cannot be in the active phase of military operations, we see that now ukraine is already actively moving from military operations directly at the front to terrorism, a terrorist state that is bombing russian territories with its drones, is trying to carry out strikes that stage outright terrorist attacks, including attempts on our... territories, as we have seen, yes, he is hiring mercenaries, trying to act, what is this, a method of terror, what is he talking about, you cannot decide, so to speak
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, in a fair fight the question is, you don’t have enough strength, so you start doing shit from behind, you start striking not at the military infrastructure, but at civilians, sowing chaos, panic, trying to create an unhealthy state of mind, public thought, this all could spread further, it’s not just russia and belarus, it will go further and further, when the same terrorist actions begin in the world, the task of the un was to prevent all this, they should have started the negotiation process, they should have, maybe to force a seat at the negotiating table, belarus started this, belarus began to invite ukrainian and russian negotiators to its territory in the very first days of a special military operation , that’s the question, do we need, of course, no one... now they’re not talking about what we have to close the un tomorrow, hang up the lock, everyone has gone to the front, no , this organization has been created, there are international standards, documents that
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regulate its activities, but we see that objectively the un needs reform, that’s exactly what this session has been omitted, that’s exactly the question, i’ll try to clarify it, maybe the moment has been missed, we see the order, we can, we can talk about what, that’s exactly what you said correctly, today... the un should take into account non-individual interests players, not individual states, here we are, the general assembly makes a decision by a majority vote, where all un member countries participate, well , excuse me, of course, but if the voice of india is equal to the vote of some tuvalu, going under water, who have already digitized themselves and they say, well, our country will disappear altogether as a territory, but we will remain. world, but this is not entirely correct, where there are 15 billion people, where there is a huge developing economy and the voice of an island state that will soon disappear altogether, the question is correctly posed,
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perhaps now the un should reorient itself towards the interaction of these blocks of structures, yes, there is nato , there is the european union, there is this conditional pro-western bloc, there is the sco, there is the g20, there is the g7, the g20 is already a conventional name, considering. there are other organizations there in south america and in asia in africa, african and so on, this should be the new one, let’s move on. vyacheslav viktorovich, we touched on the topic of zelsky in naginasley, but we understand, and the media have already reported that there is a meeting with biden ahead, what do you think zelsky will talk about with the elder, i i think he will definitely receive further instructions, it is quite obvious that the ukrainian president does not act in any of his own interests, yes, but the instructions are that the united states of america, that colleagues will be here until the end or it’s time to get together , we just discussed today that the west is interested
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in this. so that it means still going to certain negotiations, but what is the danger here, what i would like to draw attention to, there really is no alternative to peace negotiations on ukraine, yes, but along with therefore, the goal of denazification and demilitarization of ukraine must be achieved, otherwise 5, 10 years will simply pass, and this conflict will resume with renewed vigor, in a certain sense , the west needs such a respite so that they can regroup again, he said, our task is to saturate ukraine with such weapons, so that it exists, look for those to blame, too, and another option is what was also voiced today, the western elites who actively support ukraine, if they receive a defeat in ukraine, of course this is a blow to them, yes, that means they will have to explain, where did these multi-billion dollar expenditures go, the money invested, but that means maintaining the combat capability of ukraine and
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why it ended in a fiasco, that’s why these things also play a role here, i think that of course there will be a certain message, that means the implementation of peace negotiations, but it’s clear, that means the west will strive to defend its own, to maintain its influence on this ukrainian territory , that is, so as not to let go and finally lose its authority in the eyes of its own population, that is, in the international arena, but on the other hand, let me emphasize once again that there must be a clear position, unequivocally, one cannot give in on this, denesification and demilitarization of ukraine, at the meeting in sochi. two presidents of belarus and russia were journalists about their attitude towards peaceful prospects with ukraine, after blinkin’s recent visit to kiev, this topic became noticeably more active, let me remind you that the us secretary of state then announced kiev’s readiness and that moscow should take the initiative, saying that it takes two to tango, what do putin and lukashenko think about this? tank speaks very well, i think that it is important for ukraine
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forget. this is what’s important, otherwise they’ll be dancing all the time to someone else’s music and to someone else’s tune, it’s like they started dancing, three rounds of negotiations took place in belarus, then in istanbul, and then blinkin, zelensky were given the command, the command was given, that forbade negotiations, the facts are on the table, the facts are in plain sight, so what’s there to rebuke someone ? the decree was signed, absolutely right, the one who forbade himself was forbidden, the question is yes ukraine today, the ukrainian leadership zelelensky and his entourage, what are they proceeding from, when they take their steps zelsky went to the un now, that’s what he said literally that night, he said such a thing that everyone was horrified
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, really sane people held their heads and said: “lord, thank you for once removing nuclear weapons from ukraine, because he, accusing russia, actually stated that if ukraine had these weapons now , it would have already used them, that is, he would have been ready to unleash a nuclear third world war, based on it is not clear even whose interests, not the interests of ukrainians, because most of the money that are received, they are currently used for the development of the army for military affairs. what they manage to save from being stolen, yes, from being transferred to offshore companies, from being hidden in their own pockets, this is not used for social needs, not for ukrainians, it is used for this conflict, which in the end this money is just something to look at , while the peace formula from nato , here i quote, russia must surrender, if president vladimir putin russia lays down arms , peace will come, he says, and russia says that yes, we also definitely have the same desire so that
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you gave up, go to negotiations, that is, from both russia and belarus, there are not just calls, but we have seen concrete actions that these parties are ready to sit down, partially sacrifice their interests, but achieve something for themselves, that’s it, what vyacheslav viktorovich is talking about, the denazification of ukraine is the most important moment, once upon a time they did not denazify germany completely, today we see neo-nazism, revived, as in that wonderful film about stirlitz, but this cannot be allowed, in russia with which no one reckoned , which for years, deceived for decades and driven into a corner, they said that we were expanding nato in order to prevent ourselves from russia, when there was no one at all, we promised not to expand, we promised not to expand, we expanded under the guise of the fact that there might be a danger, and today, when this they have painted a danger in front of russia,
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it is forced to respond, they say, well, here we are. no wonder they expanded, right? well, now i just want to return to stolteng, well , believe me, this statement is the height of cynicism, there is no other way to say it, because a person who does not understand the essence of what is happening. even apart from the only one, he heads an organization that in recent years has done whatever it wanted in europe, in the world, and so on, but it’s not the organization, it’s america, through the hands of this organization, to declare that if russia withdraws all weapons , it will be destroyed, we already had this, this is the nineties of the last century, we cut weapons, we demilitarized, we destroyed the latest weapons systems, missiles. aircraft which, according to their characteristics, were significantly higher than what the enemy had, we accomplished all this, at the same time, nato, all at that time less than 20-odd states, they did nothing, they only promised and
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said, today they are trying to buy us once again with the same , so to speak, to catch on the same hook with an empty promise, and i would also pay attention, because this man, he... broadcasts, he does not broadcast his thoughts, he broadcasts the thoughts of the west, united, not united, it doesn’t matter, the golden billion , well, something like this, well, we somehow use this phrase, there are fewer of them, but before this berbock, this is the parsley of modern politics, i can’t call it anything else , he declares the same thing, literally, russia must lose, ukraine must win, how, you know, what is nikolai’s answer? you can give it to stolteng and bärbock, here are two photographs we found, very fresh, here is one photograph about the fact that russia should capitulate, and let’s show the second photograph, also the same composition, yes, this is a recent photograph, what is good about it , it
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conveys the atmosphere, weak in quotes, of russia and something tells me that the smiles in this photo, precisely at the moment when they heard stolteng’s proposal about addition , well, probably a toast, a toast to victory, after all, you think, we discussed this one many times in this studio bias in petty bullying of european politicians, probably one of these prizes should be taken by mr. barel, remember, as a result of the counter-offensive, he said that this was a blow below the belt, that russia was responsible, it must answer for it, and we must introduce new sanctions, but therefore there is already some politics moves into the field of medicine. but in fact, the situation is becoming dangerous, it seems to me that our western colleagues have begun to understand that zelsky is beginning to get out of control, i want to give an example of even his sparring with his polish partners, just
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yesterday they hugged, kissed their asses and talked about unbreakable friendship , which will be carried through the centuries, look what’s happening now, and we’ll touch on this topic, and poland, ukraine , we’ll continue their relations, or rather, we’ll close this topic . it’s getting more and more difficult for stolteng to be convincing even among our own. here are two short opinions, as a verdict, businessman david sachs laid out a map of the fighting in ukraine and noted that the territories occupied by all are so small that they are barely visible on it. and this thought in the comments. musk, so many deaths for such a small result. as for musk himself, the dogs were unleashed on him for refusing to help starlinks in the war against russia, well, the fact that billionaires are not just - this is understandable, but another picture,
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the journalist here catches the eye. the next time someone starts telling you about this high western press, remember this propagandist from skynews. it is true that your ignorance and inordinate ego led to your destruction. man, mr. musk, do you like it? it is true that ukrainians died because of your ignorance and sense of self- importance. one senior official thinks so. what is the value of a free press, western values, we took a good look at in 2020. listen to the famous lithuanian deputy pavelenis, not a little , yes, when he throws it in the face of even fugitives, you
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you didn’t take a single building, but you don’t fight as you should, because the lithuanians and ukrainians understand this, so we looked at your revolution, it’s very wonderful, i myself was everywhere, but we still didn’t understand why you didn’t take a single building they took, why didn’t you fight with these security forces, why did you only act like saints, this is a fight, we need to win this freedom, we need to... break and fight this regime, who is saying the question, deputy, first, second, supposedly a politician, neighboring state, and we constantly say that neighbors should live normally with each other, neighborly, peacefully, and this person is trying to drive a wedge to continue the escalation of the situation in belarus, 3 years have passed, thank god we already have... figured out what happened, the majority understood what they wanted
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to do here, people among themselves the concept of national unity appeared and this miracle appears on the blue eye and tells what someone, and he, did in his life, with whom he fought, and why is he talking about this now, what will be his next step, here exactly about this, why did he say this now, because by any means we must destabilize the situation in our state. find any excuse, like the latvians, like the lithuanians, like the poles, they are now the coopers ahead of the rest of the planet, running to bite belarus, to bite russia, and normal players are not getting into this yet, this is - well, it’s no coincidence that he has an american to caress flag, colleagues, he says, a statesman of another state officially declares, in fact, that lithuania does not accept the current government of the republic of belarus. officially declares that they support attempts
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coup d'etat, and attempts by force, a violent change of the constitutional system in a neighboring country, well, from the point of view of diplomacy, we , of course, have already lowered the entire possible level of relations with them, but in my opinion we still have lithuania’s charge d’affaires, so in this case it is necessary our foreign ministry will probably have to react very seriously somehow, because this means an open declaration of war on our state, if we say so, honestly and without any diplomatic equivocation, that is, they themselves came to power illegally within the framework of the then existing ussr, they then spread this criminal scheme for seizing power to other post-soviet countries, regions, we saw how, with the support of the same lithuania and others, well, these were small players, but funding also came through them, from them partial participants in the events were traveling, moreover, after
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... their minister, a citizen of the lithuanian state, who was the minister of ukraine, just as there were us citizens and georgian citizens who ruled ukraine, anyone, but not ukrainians, when the same biden sat there in the first places, pushing aside president poroshenko, in short, how to react to the tawa, how should we react, firstly, our foreign ministry must react harshly, must be done accordingly. what should we treat in this case from the point of view of the influence of lithuania, for example, in comparison with belarus, this is a dwarf, let’s face it, we of course must understand these threats that they are training terrorists there, we must strengthen our vigilance within ourselves, but take them seriously, lithuania won't declare war on us, because that she doesn’t have it, further.
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humanity will not survive the emergence of artificial intelligence, because the very concept of man will change forever, we are already seeing a future in which such a concept as a country, community, team, family, it is absent, remaining in its pseudo-civilized world, at the moment, they are closing borders from everything traditional, from all those values ​​that we are now positioning from the countries of the east. making things worse only for yourself, in order for you to understand modernity, you must understand the past, read it, and accordingly, the mistakes of the past, learn how to avoid the mistakes of the future, you cannot give three things in life: mother, you cannot betray god, and you cannot betray the earth, markov’s project is nothing personal, only the truth, which is always more interesting than speculation,
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destiny and enjoy every day on friday, only on our tv channel. well, we continue, a really interesting process was touched upon in the first part of the program, we are observing warsaw and kiev, until quite recently such close states, such as it seemed to everyone, relatives of each other, but people who know history understood how much of an illusion this is , the proximity of warsaw and kiev, we are seeing a lot of open questions now, warsaw says: we won’t let your wheat in, grain, ukraine, says: and we are in revenge, which means apples and vegetables , yuri valevich, you know both poland and ukraine very well, and what happens is that their bouquet for the candy period has ended, gray everyday life begins, you know, and it never existed, it was all artificially
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imposed, they hugged and kissed very naturally in the verkhovna rada, because both those actors and those actors, that is , on both sides, but probably the theater is... completely different, but now everything has fallen into place, the regime of duda morowiecki kochinsky wants to catch the last carriage, because in a month they have parliamentary elections, they conducted relevant sociological studies and saw that the absolute majority of poles are outraged by the help that is being provided to the nazi zelski regime, by all the spending that they did not consent to, so pay attention, how suddenly, sharply their rhetoric has changed, it has even become somewhat belligerent towards ukraine, this desire to jump into the latest car, it’s a coincidence that this maximum aggravation happened just when zelensky
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flew to meet biden, because from the outside it looks, you know, like a fragment from a soviet film classic, yes, how is the fight for the title... this also cannot be ruled out, this also cannot be excluded, of course, the poles want to pull all the flows completely onto themselves, and it would be better for them if all this funding went to them, and as the polish side said, all these weapons come through us, and they would already distribute, a little, of course, according to the polish tradition, biting off a piece of this pie for themselves, but the main thing with my point of view, the main hydra wants to please to the polish voter, and the polish voter is dissatisfied, and we see this as a result, including marginal political forces,
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including forces advocating a complete cessation of funding for the zelski regime, are beginning. from my point of view, of course, history clearly shows that the relationship between ukraine and poland , given the fact that in fact now in poland there are ruling elites, the spiritual heirs of those rulers who were in interwar poland in the twenties and thirties, and there the policy was built primarily on lies and rampant nationalism, we are now seeing this in poland and here it is clearly polish nationalism, it cannot be reconciled with ukrainian, everyone remembers very well this volyn massacre and the claims of the polish authorities that they voiced regarding the eastern seats, and in the twentieth year they declared that they need all of belarus, for example, if we are talking about our country, then it is quite natural here, which means that all these deep-seated contradictions, they come
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out one way or another, everything that was, it means that there seems to be some kind of rapprochement, it was all at once, and colleagues are absolutely right that the task of those... polish ruling elites today is to stay in power, the election campaign that they will be holding, it requires, requires in order for what they exist to be supported by the majority of voters who will come to the polling stations, from here they are trying to get out, which means they give, as they say, on the spot, but again here it is necessary that the polish ruling elites remember the historical lessons, yes, that means how the policy of their spiritual fathers from the twenties and thirties ended , when poland actually managed to quarrel with all its neighbors in the interwar period, yes, that means it was there, almost the first, which means it entered into a friendly embrace with germany, in the end, how did it end for poland , and how did the polish patrons at that time, great britain and france , behave, yes, they actually... betrayed the poles, threw them to the slaughter, which means that now the polish elites are repeating the same mistakes, they
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this means that they are creating such a policy of dishonesty around their country, they are artificially intensifying syria, talking about some mythical belarusian threat, again we see a lie here, and they continue to pursue policies in the same spirit, focusing on the same great britain, the united states of america , having forgotten what such an orientation led to before the second world war, about the mythical belarusian threat, we have yuri valerievich among the... threats to the polish regime, we found a paper here, we will show it now, very interesting, they are trying you, they want write down as scoundrels, the polish government, but the court is somehow strange, it’s a trial in absentia , i don’t know if they gave me a lawyer, what kind of things these are, but you know, a very interesting situation, poland is a democratic country, it treats you so badly declares, that’s why they have trials of politicians in the form of such a stalinist troika. i want to say that for about a year, probably
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more than a year, i generally sought the right to sue them for the fact that they included me completely illegally and called me a threat to the national security of the european union. just a year later having received this right to sue, i received a paper stating that they would... but without my presence, without the presence of my lawyer and without the appointed date and time of the court hearing, that is, they will send the court decision by mail, well, that’s why our probably the audience will be very curious about how political processes take place in poland, and is it really possible to throw a stone after all this, first of all, it concerns our compatriots who are there for a while... is it possible to throw a stone at our garden, our justice,
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if we see such egregious things, egregious things that are probably unique in jurisprudence, nikolai evgenovich, in general, if you look at them now, this example and many others bother polish society, and many say that we see how much corruption scandals, this story with hundreds of thousands of visas issued, which actually influence migration crises to a lesser extent on our border, in different parts of the world, and many started talking about the fact that after october 15 they will, to put it mildly, have hot, if you remember the words of lehav allens, he said that if duda and peace remain, expect a civil war, how far can it go, that’s your forecast? i am not ready to say that there will be a civil war in poland, because, in general, society itself.
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is not yet ready for such a development of the situation, it doesn’t want to strain too much, it wants to relax a little, it doesn’t want something like in ukraine to suddenly happen, just about ukraine, this example doesn’t really bother them for one simple reason: poland aside, from the ukrainian crisis it received dividends in the form of financial support, replacing its weapons at the expense of the united states, and using its structure as a hub. in relation to ukraine and also wanted to get territory, no matter what we say, poland is playing its game here, and as for the polish people, the polish people, they do not feel the burden of this war, only those who go there, mercenaries who go there to make money, in my head, with the prospect that they will eventually take a piece of the lviv region, and even territory there, so to speak, near the border, it’s like, the cherry on the cake in the future , they thought about it all the time, you will remember the embrace that
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ukraine and poland had, permission for polish citizens to be on the territory of ukraine, to occupy leadership positions , because it was, and now, when the time has come to deal with the elections and their own people in ukraine, or more precisely , elections are expected in ukraine, in poland. elections and now there is not a showdown between the people, now there is a showdown between the elites, who in one country in another are trying to stay in power, in in ukraine, comrade zelsky, he clearly says, we need to remove the elections, or pay me money so that i can hold them, in poland it is even worse, poland tried to play an independent game in the wrong, so to speak, without listening to the recommendations of europe, and here tusk appeared, who ... today is a european deputy who promotes the interests of europe and who has now been brought forward as an alternative to the current government, and the things that
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he says, including, so to speak, scandals related to the sale of visas and other political issues, they clearly show , what’s going on inside poland, it has much more internal problems than external ones, and it’s rightly said, our colleague says that he is now a problem for poland and for the european union, he is not the problem, it’s these politicians and those powers that are and the political steps they are taking, if this continues, ukraine scared many, but it did not teach europe, it only raised the question, maybe it will cost us more than we expected, just like that, so in my opinion in my opinion, there will not be a new revolution there , there will be an internal conflict, it may be an internal conflict with certain exits to the streets and so on, but they will come to an agreement, the poles
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will come to an agreement among themselves, somehow? well, first, i would like a remark, regarding my neighbor yuri , the situation is, of course, not something unknown in jurisprudence, that is, a citizen of another state located on the territory of another state, poland for some reason decided to bring into its jurisdiction, to judge by its own - the laws that i did, what crime he committed, god knows, but without giving the opportunity for a citizen of another state to even speak out, to send his lawyer , without informing when and where this trial will take place, that is, well, i don’t know what to call it, i’m not a lawyer , but i came across a little bit of jurisprudence, this is in general, that is, even the americans, when they extend their jurisdiction to the whole world, they somehow justify that they have interests, in this case, what opportunities does poland have there, what interests
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with regard to especially yuri voskresksky, well, it’s even difficult to imagine, that is, in general ... this is complete nonsense, as for the relationship between ukraine and poland, it was initially clear that two countries that have a very rich, eventful history of mutual conflicts and contradictions, throughout they had so much history on one side and the other, and the facts of genocide, the destruction of each other on national grounds, religion, and territorial disputes that have not gone away, what united them now, it was unconditional russophobia, opposition is the fact that they have a common enemy, which at the moment forces them to hug, kiss , as soon as god forbid, yes, this common enemy will not exist, this will immediately begin a massacre between poland and ukraine immediately automatically, but even now, with the existence of a common enemy, they still have these claims against each other, they have not gone away, we see how part of polish society periodically
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splashes out these claims into the public space, there are... all these marches of anger are taking place and the demands of the polish don't forget the nationalists massacre, and this is emphasized a lot, and what we are seeing now in poland, when they beat ukrainian guest workers there, when they call them names in every possible way, they find fault with them when they do their work as taxi drivers, salesmen or someone else, complete disrespect for on the other hand, some of the polish citizens, they also have complaints that we took you here, we water you here, feed you, and here you begin to throw away some horses for us, make a claim that you owe us even more , the gap that is now happened demonstratively, which on the margins of the un resulted in what we talked about at the beginning of the program, a planned meeting that suddenly did not take place,
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characterizes it very well, that is, despite the fact that there is a common enemy, everyone still has it. ..' their national interests. poland’s national interest, as was rightly noted here, is to turn into a powerful state within europe, with its own number of allies, to create this system of intermariums, where poland plays a vital role, poland does this not with the support of europe and brussels, but does this with us support. poland today finds itself in such an interesting situation that it needs, firstly, in front of its own, this is not only ukrainian sponsorship. the usa, the usa is the main point of support for poland, in its claims to any kind of power in europe at all, there will be no usa, poland would have germany and france, everyone else would just be eaten, so now, as they correctly said, it goes to -the first is a dispute for primacy, who is closer to the body of biden’s grandfather, whether poland or ukraine, yes, who should receive more resources, and when this is then a question of responsibility for these
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resources, of course, between poland and ukraine. unity, a young holiday, but somehow he very quickly took his place, which means he came to court, we have a triad of may 9, july 3, september 17, let's listen to the president, who at the climax show made very important messages, in including for the poles. is it possible to forget how they fired cannons at belarusian villages, how they beat belarusian children with rods in foreign schools, how they viciously mocked belarusians, russians, ukrainians. in the polish concentration camp in bereza kartuska, these are all facts, but for the sake of friendship with the polish people, we overcame this
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pain, the foreigners took it for weakness, but the lesson was learned, time has shown that our noble aspiration: to live in peace, was not appreciated by our neighbors, i’m not talking about the polish people, i’m talking about the elites, politicians who have been thirsting for revenge all these years, well, i think that god heard these words, especially ordinary poles, they sometimes give feedback, we see what they hear, but first of all it was a message, also for belarusians, not specifically this phrase is what was heard in the minsk arena. and what should september 17 remind us of, what should it teach us, how should it mobilize today’s belarusians? but first of all, it should remind us of the role of the importance of unity in
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our history, because if you and i think and look even deeper than september 17, 839, belarus is a geopolitical crossroads, our ancestors have lived on this land for thousands of years and they would have defended their right to live on this land and live as they see fit without unity of the majority in this goal? of course not. therefore, what the president said clearly speaks of the importance of unity in our history, unity that gives us the right to live on this land and live as we see fit, and not to please someone else’s interests. yuri valevich, you know, we have entered an era of turbulence, regional conflicts, wars, it seems to me that pandora’s box has been opened, with the story of kosovo, this is where it all began. from my point of view, therefore, at the last meeting with the governor, to the krasnodar residents, the president said yesterday that all we see in ukraine are just
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flowers, the berries will be ahead, and i agree with him, we are entering a difficult, difficult era, and maintaining stability and calm in these conditions is possible only with combining a strong leader with... popular unity, consolidation and development strategy, if we have these three things, then we will survive and win. nikolaich, sovereignty and independence are very expensive, and their provision is possible only under the condition of the unity of power of the people. september 17th is a date that teaches us that the belarusian people have endured a lot, they tried to divide them, they tried to destroy them, divide them. despite the most difficult interwar situation, despite the conditions of the riga peace, despite the outbreak of war, the second world war in europe, the belarusian people
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managed to unite in these difficult conditions, we returned to each other, we created our common home, now they will again try to separate us in order to destroy one by one, so we need to understand very clearly that belarusians as a people, as a nation, have succeeded, we we should not now not... neither linguistically nor religiously, if we clearly understand that we have our own country, our own state, our own nation, for the interests that...

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