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hello, we're live. and the program “sas” i am authorized to declare, i am its presenter nadezhda sas, i greet you, i will begin today’s program with a quote from the russian emperor alexander ii. the state is a rational non-freedom that the poles will never come to terms with. if i predicted what people would do in the next century, next to the word poland, i would write rebel. and having survived several assassination attempts by polish revolutionaries, the king turned out to be right. poland is still rebelling outside. inside ourselves, but if

we have already talked about the foreign policy ambitions of warsaw in several programs, then we will talk about the internal kitchen for the first time, but first we will tell you about the main events of world politics this week right now. the short-term escalation of the conflict in nagorno-karabakh ended with the victory of azerbaijan. for the first time since 1988, baku is regaining full sovereignty over this mountainous province populated by armenians. this was the result of management armenia... led by nikol pashinyan voluntarily said goodbye to karabakh. in such conditions, russian peacekeepers can only ensure the protection of the peaceful armenian population of the region. the settlement of the long-standing karabakh conflict radically changes the situation in the southern caucasus and makes it possible to open many new transport corridors between asia and europe. a scandal erupts in relations between india and canada over the murder of the leader of the sig separatists.

living in exile, the indian authorities expel a high-ranking canadian diplomat in response to the announcement of nongrath's persona by an employee of the indian embassy, ​​who headed the indian foreign intelligence station in canada. ottawa claims indian involvement in the elimination of the sikh leader, who advocated the separation of the state of punjab from india. while denying the accusations, delly also shut down negotiations to sign a trade agreement with canada. it is significant that other western countries refrain from commenting, which speaks of india’s weight in the modern world and the west’s desire to win its side. considered the most reliable allies in the confrontation with russia, the regimes in kiev and warsaw, loudly broke pots within just a few days. the polish government's decision to ban the transport of ukrainian grain in order to protect its farmers led first to a complaint from kiev to the world trade organization, and then to high-profile exchanges. mateusz morawiecki.

this whole situation has shown that apart from russophobia elevated to the rank of state policy , there is very little that unites. ukraine and poland. and i can’t help but comment on my extravagant jacket today, why was chosen because it was red. i suspect you guessed it, a reference to one of the colors of the polish flag, but many of my colleagues associate it with the uniform of the american military. what conclusion do we come to when we write poland usa in our minds. on october 15 , the next parliamentary elections will be held in poland. and the main competitors for parliamentary... seats in the sejm of the lower house of parliament will be the ruling conservative-nationalist party rights and justice of jaroslaw kaczynski and the political association civil coalition ex-prime minister donald tusk. and of course , i am pleased to introduce today’s participants in the discussion, andrei vladimirovich savinykh,

chairman of the standing committee on international affairs of the house of representatives of the national assembly of belarus. hello. good afternoon. i am glad to welcome to our studio andrei viktorovich manoila, doctor of political sciences, professor at moscow state university and member of the scientific council of the security council of the russian federation. good afternoon. i'm glad to welcome you. of course, according to tradition, we begin our discussion with blitz question. what do you think, andrei vladimirovich, is it likely that a change of power in poland will occur as a result of the elections? well, absolutely not, the point is that, well, let’s put it this way, the two main political forces are literally neck and neck. the difference is, well, 3-5%. moreover, in fact, none of the political parties will be able to immediately gain a majority of votes, the pis are given 33%, they would need to gain at least 231 seats in parliament, but more than 200,

none of the analysts predicts, this means that in any case there will be coalition, in in any case, will there be, well, a certain exchange of position, with the confederation possible? coalition, as you think, are very different, a confederation is such a sweet blanket that unites an insane number of small parties, parteks, supologov and so on, so ask me what their political position is, i won’t answer, probably no one will be able to give a clear answer the answer is, therefore, everything is possible, but an amazing thing is that for the first time in the history of such elections, none of the small opposition parties declare theirs in advance. you don’t understand what’s the matter, all the political campaign, the election campaign, it is happening very dirty, so uncivilized, so, in general, so boorish without

observing decency, that frankly, it is even surprising, that is , it seems that literally all the political forces in poland understand. if it is in crisis, then issues of development and strengthening of statehood are not on the agenda, all political parties are simply trying to stay in power, to stay afloat, but this is a serious loss of strategic initiative, and frankly speaking, i i can’t imagine how they will build this strategy for the country’s development, why, because it’s a short-term vision. for any polish state as well. thank you, andrei vladimirov, i would naturally like to inform you that on the eve of the electoral race, the rzeczpospolita newspaper published the results of a sociological survey, which were disappointing for the current authorities of the republic, here andrei viktorovich, let us comment on these results, this is what

you think, they were upsetting the ruling one here today the party, but here are the key players, dudu, morowiecsky, and of course kaczynski , colleagues, you see on the screen, well... of course not very optimistic, but on the one hand, on the other hand, this is a typical picture for the ruling party, for almost any ruling party, because those in power make mistakes, and these mistakes are now being used to discredit them and compromise them in the elections, that is, in principle, this is normal, but another thing is that, well, in general, the rating of all forces political in poland is not very high, although the confederation... for the last time has risen very much in the rankings, what does this mean? that indeed, here are the right-wing parties that speak out, but for example , an alternative for germany for absolutely friendly relations with the same russian federation, just like in poland, there are people who do not agree with the courses that, you don’t agree with me

, this raises great doubts for me, because by and large, if we take russia and belarus, then no matter who wins the elections, the ruling party will be firmly anti-russian, anti-white position, and there is no need to harbor any illusions here, the political establishment of poland is completely controlled by an external center of influence. we sincerely would like to preserve traditional polish values, we are talking about justice, by and large, 90% of these political parties, they would like to preserve this traditional way of life, based on some catholic traditions, family, community, national state, in general, understandable, good

human values, but the problem is that poland turned out to be, if we take this figurative expression on a plane that flies in a completely different direction, unfortunately, andrey, with your permission, let 's talk to a polish political expert, mateuszki is in touch with us, hello, mateusz, please tell me what moods prevail in society today, perhaps you tell me for whom... would you give your vote? hello, well, the choice is very difficult , or rather, i would say that there really are no significant differences, i mean in terms of foreign policy, in terms of some foreign policy strategies, between the main political forces of poland, at least those that are now at the parliamentary level, which is represented in the elections, there are no significant differences, although

of course there are certain nuances, but in short, we can say that the main opposition force, the so-called civil coalition, used to the leading force in this coalition is the civil platform of former prime minister donald tusk, which in terms of foreign policy is rather closer to berlin and brussels, while the ruling justice and justice party is closer to to the anglo-saxons, to london and washington, so in terms of foreign policy, if we take into account the fact that after some time, i am sure that continental europe will wake up, and uh, will one way or another change its attitude towards russia , to belarus, including to the entire union state of russia and belarus, or more to say, and maybe a less

dangerous option is now the coming to power of this liberal political force, which is close to berlin and which at least will not aggravate the situation here in this way of aggravating relations, well, first of all, with russia, there is a third one: a political force is a force - which some define as the extreme right, although this is not a fact from a political science point of view, it is a party of the confederation, in the ranks of this particular party there are several, i i’m not talking about all politicians of a given party, but there are several individual politicians, including current deputies, for example, grzesz braun, janusz korwin micke, who express a completely... different point of view on issues related to

foreign, in particular the eastern policy of poland, so tell me this, let me respond to one of your remarks , you said that today, after all, a political force with liberal views, values, it is less dangerous, since we do not particularly observe such, you know, rather even aggressive rhetoric towards the same republic of belarus, but you understand that this is the rub. today’s party , that’s the ruling party, yes, we see very often in the media morovetsky, duda, and people, frankly speaking, in my opinion, are so useful idiots, well, to be honest, recently they managed to enter the embassy with ukraine, with germany, tusk is a time bomb , and although poland today, well, it’s a stronghold of traditional values, like belarus, like russia, like ukraine, once was, but look at the experiment being carried out today, aren’t you afraid of tusk’s political power? you know, in fact, unfortunately,

poland is not a subject of international relations in europe, in eurasia, it is not an independent subject, therefore the question of who the next ruling party in poland will depend on is strategically important for us, because it is this vector, to what extent they will depend, there berlin, brussels, to what extent washington and london will depend, are of strategic importance, from the point of view of the polish-belarusian relations that you probably, most likely, and most of all, are interested in, yes, let me remind you, in 2016, immediately after the right-wing party and justice came to power, remember, the speaker of the polish senate, then, came to you in minsk, stanislav korchevsky, he even met with the president of belarus, uh, there was some short period

when - the current ruling party of rights and justice tried to establish... normal good neighborly relations with minsk, all this ended instantly, there, let me remind you, then in the twentieth year the same ruling party tried to interfere in one way or another in the internal affairs of belarus, but nevertheless, this was due to the fact that each of these political forces has some moments when the level of this dependence on external factors decreases, then... they are trying to pursue a more or less independent policy, regarding tusk and conservative values, so i want to emphasize that donald tusk is a very, well, i would say, pragmatic politician, yes, so there are no revolutions here in terms of values, what - i don’t know,

there is a turning point in this regard, in terms of values, in terms of the values ​​of the politician. so, thank you very much, mateuszki was with us politically, the polish analyst, andrei viktorich, please tell me whether you agree with what you heard, well, yes and no, because the polish expert is quite i accurately described this situation for a leading polish analyst, but in general we see that the process is quite chaotic. and not just because the forces are approximately equal, as sociology shows, but also because none of these forces can gain a clear advantage through legal means, that is, they do not offer anything new, that is, they compete with approximately identical platforms, with identical programs, both of them are very well known to polish voters, both of them have made mistakes,

including stupid ones, in this regard, no matter what they try now, no matter how they try to disguise themselves as defenders of traditional or non-traditional values , strictly speaking, the voter knows their real value, in this regard, one of them may be ahead to break out solely due to some kind of hype , or explosive pr, if that happens, there are other methods, yes there are other methods, but in this beautiful diagram, what scares me most is the third way, when... our ombulsman ah, defender businessmen, titov, decided to create the party of growth, then the question arose about what ideology would be taken as a basis, and uh, at the very first brief dedicated to the ideologist of the future party, titov said: “we are not with the right and not with the left, we

let's take a different path, our path is the third path, our ideology is the ideology of the third path, that means the journalist, who at that moment was his adviser, but this was not agreed upon with him, when he saw it, his hair stood on end and on the same day he brought titus’ book, the third way was written there, the author of this book was musalini, extremely interesting information, yes , i would like to literally draw attention to several theses that the polish guest expressed to you, he said that, by and large, poland gave up the sovereign right to determine its policies, by and large, no matter which party wins, the decision on the political course of this country will be made by brussels, most likely, the united states of america and great britain, this is the main thing and the first, by and large, all these parties find themselves in a strategic dead end, because their

voters, the population of poland would like traditional values, they would like a peaceful direction. would like to interact with their neighbors, and they are being pushed to a completely different policy by the center of power. in this case, the masses have the right to express their desires, do you think some kind of revolutionary process is possible in poland. no, you see, what other situation, this is where it comes from, this is a constant thesis, like a threat from russia, where the thesis of necessity comes from. militarization of polish society, the population is literally intimidated, by and large they believe in these theses , they are brainwashed, so when they make their political choice, they will not... will choose between the ideal and the real, they will choose between real parties, which do not suit them more or less, it will be

the choice between bad and even worse, as a result we will get the final result, political, but this will not cancel this situation in any case, i have already given the metaphor of an airplane, and tusk and all the other politicians, they are just passengers there, at best... let's continue the metaphor and say that, uh, sordesa is serving drinks, she is from brussels, and at the wheel of the plane is a pilot from the united states of america, this will probably be a complete picture, a german politician, and he decided to run for the next elections to the european parliament, and the question naturally arises, how do you change this? his seat in the bundestag to a seat in the european parliament, and he answers me, nadya, so how about a car? which is located in germany, in brussels, so you see, these are the moods that prevail, let's talk about certain political

frauds, it is worth telling the audience about this, here is the unofficial leader of the coalition of right-wing political parties, the united right, jaroslaw kaczynski, back in november 2022, announced the creation of an election protection corps, which includes 70,000 supporters, and this corps will monitor election procedures to identify the facts. violations of electoral legislation by competitors, and so - said kaczynski, but it is possible that in the event of a failure in the elections, the corps will be used to fabricate these very facts violations of election legislation and, of course, compromising information about the entire electoral campaign , please tell me, andrei viktorovich, do you have any certain analogies with the last elections in the states, there was also quite a lot of fraud there, you know, if in america this is what happens with the electoral system, well, that means everyone else can. yes, but the americans have been working towards this for a very long time so that the violations that are now observed in

election campaigns in america finally become widespread there. concerning poles, then this technique they use with the body is a very clever technique of manipulation, although not new. so what did they essentially decide to do? they figured it out. that, uh, a very large force , uh, acting on behalf of society, are observers, the observers will be different if they independently appear somewhere and are picked up there by some other smaller parties, that’s what they accordingly, they can spy on violations not only among opponents, but among themselves, but this is not very good, therefore - to create a corps of all these observers and potential means to gather people of active and aggressively minded passionaries in this corps, organize, and at the same time train how to identify those things that

need to be identified there, to create an organized force out of them, all passionaries, that is, people, who, in general, are not indifferent to how the elections will be held and those who are ready to spend their time observing, they will flock to this building, so everyone will be under the control of one single political force, uh and, uh, what’s most important , it's like observers, it was also said there, yes, that is, these are not party supporters, if something happens, they, of course, can declare their protest, and this will be a protest from the depths of society, that very deepest people, this is a reception and - the poles are not the first to use this technique, here, but it appeared relatively recently, well, it is important to emphasize that the opposition, in turn, responded to this action to guard the elections, which has already involved more than 50 thousand people, and to guard the elections will do the same that the body monitors competitors, and if

they will also need to fabricate stuff, they shouldn’t be watching the progress of the elections, well, actually, andrei, what do you think, well , you know, this is a very interesting point, the thing is that the poles have already gone their way, 2014 local elections , morovetsky said, he himself personally spoke publicly that there were falsifications, so in principle, let’s say, distrust in the elections, this is already becoming a traditional approach in almost all western democracies, including poland. the second point, which is surprising, is that no one, well, can maybe they are calculating, and maybe, by the way, they are deliberately leading to this, because any political party requires serious funding, this serious funding comes not from ordinary people, not from voters, but as rules from transnational corporations, or large national corporations . it turns out that the creation of such buildings, in fact, on

the one hand allows us to solve tactical problems. tasks, but strategically drive the party into debt, which will then dictate the political course of this party, this happens everywhere, this has already reached its limit in the united states of america and now this trend is gaining strength directly in poland, this is a very important point that i would like to emphasize, but again, all this is being done against the backdrop of a total distrust of all political forces to each other, to each other, yes. i am glad to welcome to our studio the member of the bundestag of the nineteenth convocation, the german businessman gert. valdemar, hello. yes, good afternoon, good. i think you, like many people involved in political processes, are following the progress election campaign, here are the upcoming elections in poland, october 15.

how pure do you think today's... political game is, because some of today's steps of the same ruling party, yes, here's peace, they really at some point became absolutely populist, that's how you can separate the wheat from the chaff, even in relation to ukraine, do you think this is their personal desire to quarrel with ukraine, to impose an embargo on ukrainian grain, or this is playing along, for a short period of time, until october 15 there will be such a line, but further, well, this is what the elders will say... a clean political game, a dirty political game, in general politics is a dirty business, from the point of view of morality, from the point of view of, uh, all other things, honest, sincere, big politicians, they have sunk into the past, since , de gaulle, these are those who dreamed of the prosperity of the european continent, those who were not engaged in enriching themselves, but the main thing that

should be done... politics is the welfare of its people, unfortunately, now it has become a business for everyone, and this business model that came from overseas has taken over almost the entire political life, the elite, like the german one, well, germany is a little different, germany is treated differently, it is treated like a colony, like an occupied country, there other approaches and methods are prescribed, put in place, well, if the chancellor of germany, before the inauguration, should fly to the united states to bow to genghis khan, in my opinion, or the mongols used to do this with russian princes, there is nothing new in this, so here they play with the political differently, and poland, but it’s still definitely an independent country with great ambitions, which the same americans have now sowed, now everything, everything will be applied.

in order for voters to elect, and the day after the elections, it will be completely different , as you already said, now we need to catch the electoral, electoral discontent, the discontent of the peasants, the baurs, cheap grain ruining the economy and so on, now work will begin on voters, of course, want to talk about germany, because this is such a tragic story today, how easily the state gave away championship, transferred it to poland, today poland is indeed becoming a leader, but in some ways you can say so in the european union, but at least with such, you know, rabid, active guys, but skirmishers, you don’t agree with me, no, well, the one who shouts loudly is not necessarily the leader, that is, understand correctly, i completely agree with my interlocutor that germany has now begun to be destroyed, and as an industrial

power. and as the real economic leader of the european union, this happens for slightly different reasons, the fact is that this hierarchical world, when there is a core and there is a periphery, now when china, russia, india, brazil are trying to leave the global financial system, it turns out that germany is being appointed to the role of the periphery, well, the essence of the matter. continental europe, this is a very serious political transformation, which, frankly, i don’t know if it can be stopped, against this background, relatively speaking, the assemblage point, if it happens, it will probably be by a few countries of old europe, here i would rather name germany, austria, northern italy, poland - this is rather a really ambitious, loud

player who does not have the resources. acts on the lead of completely different centers of power, global centers of power, and this is not even the united states, these are supranational structures that do not have a national registration. this is global financial capital, by and large, the future of poland as a national state does not interest them at all, they will sacrifice this country later, as they say, the ashes will be scattered to the wind, this is a real threat, and if polish politicians do not realize it, then i don’t think that the future of poland will be prosperous, but please tell me, you are a brilliant expert in information hybrid wars, did you have certain notes of your own regarding the political activity that is going on in poland today, it all resembles fuss

, spiders in a jar, because no matter who comes to power there, no matter how they frolic, no matter how loudly they now declare themselves, it is clear that they are very scared and it is clear where do the true threads stretch, that as soon as someone comes to power, in general, to decide who will be the head of state and who will be the ruling party, they will immediately receive their instructions and this is how it was all the time, in this regard, poland behaves of course very active, very aggressive, and we constantly see information events there, reasons that they create a scandalous nature, but at the same time they are very scared, at one time before crimea voluntarily... became part of the russian federation, quite often we flew to poland, and the last such delegation was, i headed it, just in 1914, right after the annexation of crimea, that is, there was a very interesting cross-section of how polish politicians perceived this event, which

shocked them, like this before crimea, the most common question was what interested them, they were most interested in what kind of relations between russia and germany, how close russia and germany would become, because this clearly scared them, so one day they asked me a frank question, uh, it means what will happen if russia and germany come to an agreement, at that moment there were small differences between our countries, there were disagreements, but nothing significant, well, accordingly, the answer to this question is clear, what will happen if russia and germany agree, they will take up historical matters together, what a favorite historical affair, well, the division of poland, and - this is the motive that is playing now, which is precisely why poland is doing everything to prevent russia and germany from getting closer than a certain distance. i don’t know, i perceive it as some kind of phantom

fears that the rapprochement between russia and germany could become the basis for the economic prosperity of poland, because poland currently does not produce competing products, they are already included in the structures, corporate structures of german concerns, producing spare parts, equipment elements, semi-finished products, it turns out that if germany and russia built a common market, this would be the basis for industrial development , germany would be able to determine itself, but you know, waldemar, let’s watch the video together, it’s quite a lot of noise done on social networks, poland's ruling party, justice, published a harsh anti-german propaganda video, let's watch it,

hello, good afternoon, they are calling you from the german embassy. i would like to agree with the head of the polish government on the issue of retirement age. i believe that it will remain the same as it was under tusk. tuska. dear mr. ambassador, the poles will decide this issue in a referendum. tusk is no longer here, that's the end of it. well, they emphasized that during the time of tusk, actually. germany and perhaps others, embassies interfered in the internal politics of poland, but actually, duda, morawiecki and kaczynski, they defend sovereignty here, but i would like you and i, for our viewers,

to recall a short biography of mr. kaczynski, please, yaroslav kaczynski, polish politician, founder and chairman of the ruling conservative law and justice party pis. since june 21 , 2023, the twin of the deceased polish president lech kaczynski has held the position of deputy prime minister of the government created specifically for him. supervising the bloc of security ministers. considered one of the most influential people in polish politics. also, jaroslaw kaczynski is the main ideologist of the internal policy of poland, which is characterized by the lustration of officials from the times of the polish people's republic, decommunization, with the demolition of monuments to the soviet wars, including the strengthening of the role of the catholic church, in particular, and the promotion of conservative values ​​in general, countering the migration of asian and african countries, government attempts bring the judiciary under control. in foreign policy is a eurosceptic and a russophobe

, you know, people who are politicians are always of particular interest, but at the same time they refuse the leading place and become such shadow players who just manage, but that’s true? well, i would say a little differently, look, this is the crisis in which not only poland, but essentially the entire european union now finds itself, it leads to a very... strange situation, either very powerful, charismatic, authoritarian leaders, like the hungarian prime minister orban, yes, who is trying with all his might to get hungary out of the situation in which it finds itself, if such people are not there, as a rule , political buffoons come in who come up with an agenda, draw attention to some facts that they supposedly

... are considered important, but in reality their task is simply to distract attention, to divert attention from what is really happening, and the main thing is for them to hold on and survive, that’s all, uh, i very much doubt that kaczynski has any serious element influence beyond polish society, in the end, he is given instructions in exactly the same way on how to act and what to do, after all, kaczynski is a person who completely does not fit the requirements for a political leader, he is a largely infantile person, just like his brother was, in -firstly, a person who gets lost very quickly, that’s why he hides somewhere, and if we see that he was there, then something scared him and he disappeared somewhere, yes, for a while, we always start put forward conspiracy theories that he is actually concentrating, that he is contemplating a secret plan.

that he had holed up somewhere and was pulling strings from there, nothing like that, he got scared, hid under the bed, in this regard , in the army there is such a maneuver, it’s called wearing down the enemy by running, that is, when you run from the enemy, this is not flight , this is exhausting, kochinsky is just from this category, in my opinion, and there is one more point, he is also a plagiarist, because you and i just watched the video, that it resembles one to one in the script, but in the script is a true love, a film that was made about how the newly elected british prime minister, the prime minister of great britain, and the american president arrives, there is exactly the same story, the american president begins to tell him that britain should do this this, this and that, this is a strict dictate, like a telephone conversation, and he seems to hesitate, and then in the end he says: “we won’t do all this.” "we are a great country, great britain, we are the country of

beckham's left foot, we are the country of beckham's right foot and dictator, the american president leaves in disgrace, this is the dream of those countries that cannot afford this in real politics , here the same dream is embodied in this video, only they would at least come up with some original scenario, you can’t rip it apart, ibid. after all, there are copyrights, i agree with you , valdemar, i would like you, as an experienced... politician, to perhaps tell us some exclusive stories, because i think you know well, you have observed the actions of the political game, the same kaczynski or the same tusk. yes, you can say whatever you want about kaczynski, but his psychological analysis of the portrait that even you are talking about now is very similar to the portrait of the whole of poland, yes, russophist. and eurosceptic poland behaves exactly like this. and

yes, it is hidden, so incomprehensible, nondescript, but ideologically enough seeds have been sown to build an internal foreign policy along precisely these two vectors. poland naturally gave up part of its sovereignty, like all republics and countries included in the european union, but poland is the only country from the post-soviet space. which benefited from this, we look at the baltic countries , what happened to them, the poles are very cunning, very wise, they pulled out all the subsidies that... could be pulled out, they pulled up their infrastructure, they pulled up their economy only after that they started snap back, now for them the collapse of the european union is probably even a desirable scenario , they won’t have to repay debts, we are a great country, we are friends with the americans more and

better, stronger than everyone else, everyone else they are still trying to do something, well, somehow... but we are not, we are the faithful watchdog of our overseas master, we have great chances, because all this cheese, the nord stream, the explosion and so on, they were sleeping and dreaming, that they will have a gas hub there, that they will supply all of europe with the liquefied gas that the americans promised that will be supplied to them, let us comment on the economic situation in poland, the level of gdp. poland received a total of about 200 billion dollars funding from the european union. yes, i must say that they spent it really very effectively, largely due to the scale of their economy, after all, 40 million people is not 3 million, somewhere in the baltic states, yes, well, in one of

the baltic countries, when there are so many population was in ukraine, moreover, yes, the mechanism made it possible to finance a number of projects from one’s own funds, and then... receive compensation from brussels. they had their own funds, so they were still leaders among all these countries in receiving grants and project projects. money. uh, but here's another problem that arises, the thing is that they still sacrificed large industry. and the second point that is reflected here is that the limit of exhaustion is approaching, the exhaustion of these funds and these funds. and here another problem arises: the conservative polish population does not want to live according to the brussels agenda, but brussels is talking about what? you joined, you gave us the right to make decisions within the framework of foreign policy, within the framework of foreign economic policy, be kind, obey, and the poles

are resisting, as a result, they have now been blocked from 35 million recovery, 35 billion, excuse me, dollars of recovery... funds from covid, they have been blocked from 76 billion for infrastructure development from the eu, they essentially no longer see these subsidy bases, what will happen with economics, it’s hard to say yet, i would call this situation such a, you know, precarious balance, when on the one hand the decline has not yet begun, but there are no prospects for development as such to add anything to what has already been done, then there is this balance, i am afraid that in the face of seriousness and duty , we can observe such a peak with you, i remind you that on the air of the program sas is authorized to say, we are talking about the upcoming parliamentary elections in poland,

scandals, manipulations, but i would like to note , that shortly before the parliamentary elections, poland was shaken by a case of... corruption in the issuance of visas. the head of the polish foreign ministry, sbik niewarau, and his former deputy, piotr wawrzyk , were accused of illegally selling visas, and according to the investigation: over the past 3 years, they initiated the issuance of about 350,000 visas for workers from africa and asia. they charged up to $40,000 for one visa. the money was divided between the smugglers and the officials themselves. polish law enforcement agencies are checking the embassy in india, hong kong, the united arab emirates, qatar on.... taiwan in other countries, since march, several suspects have been arrested in the case, including an indian businessman. and you know what’s amazing, naturally, the ruling peace party claims that they are against migrants, but when actually for money, well, for money, yes, andrei viktorich, please, i want you to comment on this story,

because there is a lot of noise, but yes, yes, yes, but this is really life, this is a clever scheme, and the guys apparently lived very well indeed. built his business precisely on the powers that they had, in connection with the positions they held, and the fact that they issued such a huge number of visas to africans, many of whom, upon verification , turned out to be not africans at all, indicates that , that this scheme was stable, and not two of these people were in it, and not two

people were determined how it would all line up, which means that accordingly, everything was in this case, so they aroused sincere respect, like such clever businessmen, until the moment it finally turned out to be at the epicenter of a scandal, and now they, accordingly, are treated in every possible way, and i think that everyone is being transferred, but the question is this: will everyone open up the network of the pinnacle of which they were, or not the pinnacle of a transmission link, or will this network be preserved, they will not uproot it and install new guards? you know, that's when i look at this situation, i see two points: one is systemic, which definitely needs to be paid attention to, the thing is that the polish economy cannot live without migrants, they have a constant need for qualified personnel, the problem is that a qualified polish plumber is already working in london for more than ten, or even 15 years, to fill these vacancies, they themselves cannot...

and here there is also a purely human reaction, which is such a proverb, don’t dig a hole for someone else, you will fall into it yourself, remember, when we the migration crisis began. he after all, it began when the european union refused to cooperate with the republic of belarus in the fight against illegal migration, they took it completely and simply left all these programs in one day. first, when the crisis unfolded in our country, and it was then that it unfolded, and we began to fight it, we imprisoned 17 people , the organizers of these illegal migration routes, there were citizens of poland, germany, unfortunately ukraine, and there was not a single belarusian . well, of course, in poland , simultaneously with the elections in october

, it is planned to hold a referendum as much as possible conservative, voters will be asked to speak out about easing migration policy, reducing costs for strengthening borders, selling stakes in state-owned companies, and of course raising the retirement age. and the answers, according to the plans of the initiators from the ruling party, are right and fair, no, no, no again. opposition. we are sure that this is a way to mobilize the conservative electorate, and also to bypass the company’s funding limits, because separate money is allocated for the referendum, details in our story, simultaneously with the parliamentary elections on october 15 in poland a national referendum will be held, initiated by the ruling law and justice party. four issues will be put to the vote: the acceptance of illegal immigrants within the framework of the eu program, the demolition of the fence on the polish-belarusian border. the prime minister explained the sale of state-owned enterprises, raising the retirement age, and holding a referendum on election day as simple

savings. i can confirm that we plan to hold them at the same time so that costs are lower; holding separate elections and a separate referendum entails additional expenses, otherwise the expenses will be almost the same, however, the holding of the referendum caused sharp criticism from the opposition, saying that this is only part of the election campaign of the ruling... party. the opposition also accused justice of trying to influence voters' decisions on election day by promising to boycott the referendum. this is not a referendum, it is simply an election campaign of the law and justice party, which thus avoids its financing. it is clear that the answers to these questions have long been known, and the most important the question that voters will face on october 15, whether to clean up or not to clean up, this is a bad government, is very simple. question and we will answer it together on october 15th. it is worth noting that in addition to the referendum, a special place in the preparations for the elections is given

to relations with belarus, which politicians from the justice and justice party present as a threat. that is why one of the key issues is the fence on the border of the two countries. to achieve this, the polish authorities are systematically inventing and broadcasting various accusations against belarus. in order to improve relations between the countries, alexander lukashenko previously said that he had given instructions to the prime minister. minister roman golovchenko contacted the polish side, but warsaw was not interested in this; the priority was to prove to ordinary poles the feasibility of nato’s presence in the country. whatever goal the ruling coalition is currently pursuing, many experts agree on one thing: poland is now on the verge of a war for sovereignty and real democracy, and now the people have the right to decide for themselves which political, economic and social processes are acceptable within the state and

... please, how do you feel about holding this referendum on election day, this time, these are the issues that are put to a referendum and learn from switzerland, but we all probably need to, there they hold referendums without any special financial seal or anything else, on any issues related to the welfare of the people, here, naturally, this referendum will be part of the election campaign, which can influence the result, well, that is, better than pr you can’t imagine, looking at the aggressive, extremely harsh rhetoric that we hear in relation to the republic of belarus, from the lips of polish politicians, from the lips again of the president of the republic of belarus, very often we hear a call to the world to search for compromise solutions and the opportunity to sit down at the negotiating table , and in general we are all, frankly speaking, very similar, and honestly, for poland , as for the republic of belarus, traditional

values ​​are the set that unites us, let’s hear the president’s synchronicity, please, time has shown that our the neighbors did not appreciate the noble desire to live in peace, i’m not talking about the polish people, i’m talking about the elites, politicians who have been thirsting for revenge all these years. taking this opportunity, i want to say just a few words to my neighbors, or rather to the peoples of neighboring countries , poles, lithuanians, latvians, know that we are not drawing plans to interfere in your life, we wish you only goodness, happiness and peace. yes, andrei vladivich, it was very correctly emphasized that there is no aggressive attitude towards the poles, there is a specific ruling elite and, frankly speaking, this is 2-3%,

probably these are the people who... the polish-lithuanian commonwealth, these are the imperial ambitions , they are not inherent to the poles who live today, if we take the people of poland, then no one there harbors these phantom imperial ambitions, moreover, from you can always hear a simple pole asking why we need this, by the way, this applies not only to the ukrainian lands, so to speak, belarus, this even applies to galicia, that’s what this will give us, people there are not in the mood. on these things. the second point that should be important to note is that, polish society also does not accept war. by and large, militant rhetoric is exclusively a feature of political circles, but not of polish society. but there is one problem, polish society has been seriously processed. they really believe in the threat

from the east, they are constantly being brainwashed. these theses, from here, they are simply intimidated, they are afraid, and how to deal with this issue, this address from the president is really a very important moment, to send a politically significant signal that that we don’t need your share, we don’t need your land , we have enough of ours, that’s a big problem, we slightly overestimated the wisdom of the polish establishment, because they really abandoned the socialist period, they rejected it as negative, seeing only bad in it and without seeing the good, without seeing the social development of the country, they started from scratch, they were given institutions that polish society does not accept, neoliberal institutions, they now have a terrible conflict between institutions and society as a whole, how will they get out of

to be honest, i just can’t imagine this situation, andrei viktorich, but what do you think, is there a way out of this situation, because it seems to me that when a development model that is unnatural for you is so forcibly imposed on you, sooner or later you say your loud no, will they say, sooner or later, this is the main question, because yes, a game was imposed on them, but they joined in this game with great desire, and not only the establishment that we are talking about today and the price of which we we know, we got involved about... until these illusions are shattered by some rock, everything will be like it is now, well, absolutely disappointing forecasts for the future of poland, recent friends have become enemies, tension between kiev and warsaw is growing, stated

that some friends kiev in europe feigns solidarity in... the arena, but by playing with grain, they prepare the ground for moscow. the day before, justice published a campaign video in which it promised to prevent the import of ukrainian agricultural products. let's get a look. it was our firm position that led to the suspension of the import of ukrainian grain into the eu common market. the eu is now considering whether to maintain this ban. i'll tell you how it will end, poland will not allow ukrainian grain to flood us. regardless of what the brussels officials decide, we will not open the borders. you know,

over the long years of independent ukraine, the ukrainian people were fooled, forced to renounce history, certain ideological values, and again redraw everything. past, rewrite it to impose those friends who have never been friends, today for ukraine, these are the actions of poland - this is such a knife in the back, friendship is friendship, and tobacco is in the dew, well done here, they defend the interests of their farmers, here it would be very worthwhile for the germans learn, because i’m sure that we have this decision, well, it would be impossible to make because of such tame politicians, but he can’t do otherwise, maybe he would have acted differently, but the elections are just around the corner, and now he can’t saying what people want to hear is, well

i probably think that his justification to washington sounds something like this: that if i’m not elected, let me get elected and then we’ll sit down and talk about all this, the poles are here, this is their style and character - external - politicians, when internal including, when they play on the feelings of their own people, their voters and do it correctly, this deserves respect, but will they be able to defend this position after the elections, now the americans are probably not interested in shift, they will weaken pressure, but after the elections we will probably see a completely different dialogue, there will be some folder with incriminating evidence on the table, thank you very much, i didn’t notice how the time of our program flew by and there are still many words that

, which we did not touch upon, but i think we will return to the discussion, allow me literally one remark, i absolutely agree that the poles will not be able to maintain this position, why, because they are not defending themselves not from ukrainian grain, they are defending themselves from american grain that is produced four or large transnational american corporations that already control up to 50% of ukraine’s arable land, and which supply this american grain to poland, germany, and so on, so i think that these attempts, they really are, i completely agree with my colleague here , they will live until the elections, after the elections they will be immediately canceled, well, by the way, it seems to me that if today we had a leading position... okay, we are forced to complete the programs, andrey viktorovich, please, our program, the final word for today you, well,