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24 billion dollars, the amount of assistance during trade with deputies has already decreased five times and is likely to become even more modest in the american parliament, they are perplexed why they should uncontrollably send money to a country that, by any standards, cannot be considered civilized. by the way, transferring $100 billion to ukraine is a glaring mistake. ukraine is the worst country on earth, people sell there. passport control posts will appear in poland and germany; selective checks will be carried out there in order to circumvent the ban on such procedures from the european union. the germans point out that most of the refugees come to them from poland, while this year 2,000 people have already received asylum in the country, which is twice as many as last year, plus there is also a scandal with the polish. in
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turn, warsaw says it cannot cope with the flow of refugees coming from the west, in particular from italy. the republican scientific and practical conference within the framework of the european week of early diagnosis of head and neck cancer was held in boravlyany. they spoke via video link specialists from russia and norway. the topic is relevant. in our country, oncology ranks second in terms of morbidity and mortality after cardiovascular disease. in the structure with this is about 15%, and as doctors say, it is impossible to improve the statistics, but perhaps it is important to develop cancer literacy. this conference made it possible to gather a large number of medical specialists from all regions of the republic, they include general practitioners, they include dentists, otterinologists, doctors oncologists, only as a single whole, that is...
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by action we can directly cope with this problem, the problems from the beginning of identifying these patients, subsequent biopsies, surgical interventions, prescribing treatment for these patients of this profile. at the conference, a master class was held with demonstration operations, doctors also exchanged experience in diagnosis and treatment, and also discussed the issue of creating a register of precancerous diseases, thanks to which it will be possible to control their degeneration into malignant process. by the way, this week preventive actions are being held in all regional centers of the country. the a5 season has begun in belarus at least sideways. social networks are literally exploding with videos of mushroom trophies. lovers share their finds and admit that the bags and packages taken are not enough. and this is not surprising. warm august and september contributed to such a rich harvest. how many times i come here,
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i never cease to be amazed at how beautiful it is, but that ’s all for me, new information at 15:00. all the best. today we will talk a little about what is happening on our border, and what is happening in our, as you said, limited neighbors, take this phrase as you wish, if you want to participate in our program, here is the qr- code, point your smartphone at it and join the conversation, ask questions, if you just want to find out how the program lives and what thoughts our experts express, here is the second qr code, join it. well, you will read
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our telegram channel, in general, let's begin, let's start, good evening, when we are preparing, when we are preparing for the program, behind the scenes, everyone knows that i always advocate that we discuss some internal issues, well , that is, i don’t like to touch on the external contour, but still, it’s time dictates that we must understand and be immersed in the processes that are taking place in states that are at least next to us, because well, we are not alone, and naturally, it is important to understand the context, and so, looking at our neighbors, through social networks, this morning, everyone was discussing that on the social network x, well, the former twitter , information appeared that the polish , i quote, thwarted the russian-belarusian plan to organize a new migration system
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, everything would be fine, everyone would be happy for the poles, but this publication was accompanied by photographs, frames that you see here. and which were captured, in general, by the polish official forces themselves in november of the twenty-first year, and all this was given out as today’s day, for this morning, people in jackets, well, i’ll just say, people in jackets, september, september, the climate is just a little different, so it’s clear that we have already somewhat learned how to check information, it turns out that it’s not very difficult, it’s enough to sort of google it sometimes, but using that , that we have a representative of our border committee on site, anton, i have a question for you, if we really spoke today and showed footage, yes, of that very border, so that
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our neighbors could see from the polish side? well first you need to say that yes, indeed, the video was published on the social network of the ministry of national defense. poland, uh, really two years ago, the footage obviously shows the engineering barrier that the polish side was erecting at that time. at the current time, they have completed the complete covering of the state border with a five-meter fence, which, in their opinion, should stop illegal migrants. but they haven’t decided yet, it seems like they need to vote to demolish it now. demolish, yes the fence stands, uh, in their opinion, it should stop the flow of migrants, uh, it has special gates, supposedly for animals, but never during the entire existence of this fence, the belarusian border service has recorded that these cages
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were used directly purpose, uh, and they are used to expel people onto our territory, to force them out correctly. say, legally, those unfortunate people who are looking for better living conditions in the countries of the european union, i must say, not even in poland, in the depths european union, that is, our country, however, like poland, is a transit country on the routes of refugee migration. anton, well, then, when these events unfolded in november of twenty-one, well, there really was a cluster of these unfortunate people, remember, then the head of state came to this center, which was organized for them, and now it still exists, or no, how is the situation there in general, at the current moment in time, the situation, of course, is different from the one that was in november of twenty-one, there are no such
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numerous outbreaks, there are occasional cases when , indeed, groups try to cross the state border, and often, in principle, we record that these refugees are detaining them on the adjacent side, gathering them into groups so that it is convenient for them for the polish security forces, through these gates, under the influence of pepper gas, threats of using weapons, or poking, kicking, are pushing into our territory, sometimes half-dead, in fact, sometimes even dead. anton, here i am 15 years ago, when i worked as a reporter, in fact, when i was at the borders, i very often saw and heard from border guards, not always publicly, but now i think, we can say that, uh, in fact, the belarusian border guards were, like, a kind of fence, guardians
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of the european union, because the issue of migration never arose, they were detained, in fact, we have an operational border guard, as if the guys, also operatives, detained them even in cities where... for example, these migrants accumulated in order to later cross the border, in fact, everything would have been fine if history had not changed its coordination poles, that is, we were solving the issue of europe, europe seemed to be giving money for this so that we could develop the border, everyone was interested in this, now the story turns out like this , we are accused of migrants appearing in belarus, although 15-20 years ago they were also here, you are absolutely right. uh, the history of generally constructing illegal routes, or simply migration routes, speaks for itself, uh, people are looking for uh better living conditions for themselves, and often, uh, with their children, for their
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children to a greater extent, they naturally look for the easiest ways to get to where they want, well, they were invited there, merkel called, she said, come. which really push, push factors and form migration routes, in those countries from which they are fleeing, there is a very terrible situation there, and , by the way, also caused by the actions of the west, in the countries where they are striving, naturally, there are programs that are aimed poland and lithuania stood up for the integration of supposedly these refugees so on the way in order to simply prevent them from getting to them, although they understand perfectly well that this is not to europe, well, i don’t know why this is really being done, to sing, that’s what you think, that’s why they performed such, you know, a radical frontier, maybe for now ... we talked a lot about how the same poles, the same lithuanians,
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at some point they felt somewhat complex in the european union, because well, how could they indicated their place, on the one hand, as if yes, you are members of the eu, on the other side, but you are still not reaching enough, let’s feel for us, here you go, cheap labor, here i would say a slightly different factor, they divided migrants by type, it turned out that migrants flowing through belarus and russia are wrong migrants, at least in parallel, i remind you, through ukraine there is no less, and maybe more, flow, through italy even more, and through italy it is still going through and no one really reacts to them, they integrate everything that they did not like in the west ? a very simple thing when the european union led against the nazis, began sanctioned aggression, we refused at our own expense... to finance and implement the readmission agreement, that is, what we would have
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to protect their border, they said, if you behave like this, why should we finance from our own budget of you, yeah, they imposed sanctions against us and simply ensure security, they howled, we remember the twenty -first year, they themselves created this situation, they howled, they started beating migrants, they threw off their - as they say, such a liberal european face, under which it turned out to be a russian, russianist askal, yes, that’s what happened, and the baltics and poland are puppets, on the one hand sitting on the brussels game, and on the other hand sitting on the american one, well, look, now in the elections the migration card is played to the fullest , after all, the polish troops approached the border with one main goal, to protect the country, including from migrants. here i would say it a little differently, look, yes, there is a contradiction between
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brussels and warsaw, this visa scandal, when it turned out that the polish ministry of foreign affairs issued the largest number of visas of all the countries of the european union to citizens of asia and africa, today germany, by the way, germany today, by the way, officially said that if this scandal flares up, some kind of... introduced on the border with poland, but i’ll just agree that this information was leaked from the media of france and germany, that is, this brussels lobby, why it happened, because the poles did not want to perform the very functions that were assigned to them imposed by the european one.
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yes, and now they are in this path, they threw out these fakes, photographs from the year 21, supposedly they are fighting against migrants, sharply, this is to pull the needle, a political technology move before the elections, i’ll explain why, they pumped up the rating through the image , creating an image of an enemy and fear towards belarus and russia from 30% at the end of may to 40% at the end of august. the visa scandal dropped the rating to 32%. here are the indicators that they have, and what it costs them to pump up the rating in two weeks in order to maintain one-party government, well, we know that many journalists, including, have now shown the film to one of the polish journalists in several cinemas. then it was closed, the polish border area is closed to journalists, one gets the impression that
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something wrong is going on there and well, let ’s say, many european journalists, belarusian journalists say that with on the polish side there are almost death squads that shoot and throw away, shoot and throw away, indeed, this is how it is, now the investigative committee is investigating a criminal case, including the incident that took place in bruzgi in november of the twenty-first year, now what actually happens is that the volumes of this criminal case document all the basic principles of this feigned democracy that they are positioning, that is, this is unprecedented cruelty, this is actually the genocide of people, division of people, again, they give themselves such a right, they choose who is worthy of living within the european union, who is not worthy of living, in fact, now the security forces on the borders of poland, lithuania, and latvia, for example, have been given a free hand, they are essentially doing this , what they want, that is, they really , the hunt for people, the hunt for people begins, the facts that have been established, during interrogations of the same
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migrants who, one might say, miraculously survived, who were expelled by force outside of our territory, they tell terrible things and sometimes one is simply amazed by the composure and cruelty with which these people behave, again, i think there is no need to remind anyone what happened in bruzgi, that is, in fact, then everyone saw and a bunch of journalists saw that the polish security forces were actually like animals were driven away from the border crossing, these migrants, and who did they drive away, people, children who were simply looking for, let’s say, going to a better life, again not to their country, well, i have a question, we opened a criminal case, there is is there even a chance that this will ever happen? will end with a conditional trial, so we can say that anyway, any period ends sooner or later, and indeed, i am sure that the time will come when this case will end with a conditional trial, but at present the polish side absolutely refuses,
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they have reduced the international cooperation is gone, and... in fact, this position of poland and lithuania is very actively covered up , lobbied by the same un, in july, at the base, in july of twenty-two, a delegation from the un came, led by a special rapporteur on rights migrants, then they all the evidence was provided, that is, they were indeed provided with the materials of criminal cases, including the investigative committee already has information about the polish security forces who were at the border at that time, who was involved in these crimes, in principle, but what -there was no effective reaction from the un, that is, in fact, the world community does not give a damn about the situation, which is emil chechko, who fled here, who also gave his testimony, this testimony, they somehow are present in the criminal case, of course, all this testimony is not present in the criminal case
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, that is, all of this was interrogated by him, which means that all of this was added to the materials of the criminal case, and this was also provided, all of his testimony was provided, including to the special rapporteur and the entire un delegation at that time. and now you are recording some new facts, because one way or another in the press periodically for two weeks, but these facts appear, these facts constantly appear, the investigative task force leaves without fail, every such case, all this is recorded, now we currently have two criminal cases, which alone contain all the horrors that the polish side is doing and evidence of their involvement in this crime. and the lithuanian side, who is tougher? poles or lithuanians? probably everyone showed to their own extent what they are capable of, that is, somewhere the lithuanians showed what they are capable of when people in need of medical care somewhere carry each other in their arms beyond this fence, when they throw them out, when people actually freeze
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to death, that is, the polish side showed itself in all its glory in the bruises, that is, well, there is now approximately at least some number, for example, of dead and wounded, or it does not keep such statistics, well, if we say, let’s say that is now accumulated within the framework of a criminal case, then on the polish side there are 150, at least , that is, there are already more than 150 victims, a dozen dead, information is now being accumulated on the lithuanian side, that is, there are already more than thirty victims there, and also about a dozen dead, but this is again the same information, it continues to be constantly updated, never, that is, as you yourself noticed, very often cases pop up in the media that the body of another refugee has been found somewhere, and citizens of which countries are more likely to all suffer, i’ll just finish this question with another question to understand, citizens of the middle east countries and afghanistan are currently suffering, that is , this is the category of people who are most often
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caught, i just have a question, what, because well well, we are the territory where the crime occurred, the poles, in fact, we can say that on the other side, well , there are murderers, i declare, as if this is not in the conditions of the procedural process, but still, but countries that have lost their citizens, countries of the middle east, can in the future these countries, for example, turn to the investigative committee of belarus for information, so that, well, we will give an example of the same nyumen process, when in any case some atrocities ended in trial and punishment, if suddenly countries the middle east will turn to us for information in order to find the criminals who killed their citizens, we will provide this information, we will provide this information, cooperation with the investigative committee always takes place both through the village and through the diplomatic channels of meade, that is, we had precedents , when the relatives of the deceased migrants arrived, and that is, they were also
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interrogated there, they had certain conversations with them, they were told about the circumstances of the crime committed against their deceased relative there, indeed, such facts are a connection, in any case they are relatives, they have the right to know what happened to their son there, of course, we are open to cooperation. unlike the same countries of the european union, they are closed to cooperation, they do not provide this information, we are a jungle, well, what difference does it make, how many people die here, for what kind of beads, vitalich, what do you think, in fact, can this be a situation when -will it end with some kind of punishment of people, or the current conditions of polish, we are not talking about polish now to the people in general, like our president, he says the poles are poles, there is an establishment or authorities, that’s it. moment it is unlikely that this situation will be resolved in some way under this polish government under this polish government in such a short historical period, but if you go back, you remembered our head
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of state alexander grigorievich, he said more than once that all crimes have their starting point has a period of bringing to responsibility, you and i can clearly see that a number of statements by our head in the political field found its confirmation of those moments, as i said. therefore, of course, taking into account that migration norms are not the norm of a particular state, these are international norms, they must be respected, without a doubt, that not only relatives, but also countries will make claims exactly as you said, to the country in which the military killers were in relation, here, for example, how could i see any signs of the same genocide, no matter how now - the ukrainian side will try now to cover up the russians there in svo, i’m not strong in jurisprudence in this matter, but here there are unarmed people who go for help, they
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are simply shot, they are not given help, why? because he understands that there will be no answer, well, for example, the united states of america, yes, be that as it may, in fact, they arrange something like this out of any incident with any of their citizens, but here they understand that there will be no answer. today's moment is gone, this today, we see how the 78th passed, the un assembly, how they listened to our minister, as we accepted the invitation, today we are again talking about international organizations brick shocks, which are uniting, today in the form of the weakness of the un instruments, international ones for the protection of the same security council, where out of five countries three, unfortunately, are the united states, england, france, which systematically blocks a certain one. this is today ’s moment, tomorrow it will change, i’m more than sure, the ongoing negotiations between countries, that a question will be asked, let’s say, about a new
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world justice, well, we can assume that the border of poland and belarus will eventually become, for example, the border of europe and the sco, because this is what it is leading to, yes, that is, in theory , the border of the collective west and the collective east, it has already practically become, this is the wall that they built, in fact this is the new berlin one. and we see that it is from their side that initiatives are coming, because they want to freeze movement across the border, make it as inconvenient as possible, and, moreover, engage in discrimination against citizens of belarus and russia on the territory of the european union, as for migrants, i would like to draw your attention to the fact that in addition to western human rights organizations, iran and... iraq, the arab states, have a huge network of their own human rights organizations, all cases that show
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discrimination, especially murder , citizens according to ethnic or religious principles, migrants, they are all recorded, for example, the iranian government often issues corresponding annual reports, where they are recorded as in europe. in the united states of america, of iranian origin and in general muslims are discredited, violated, development may come to a new september 11th, i just don’t want to develop this story. olga igorievna, what do you really think could happen on our borders? peter says that we are indeed becoming a kind of civilizational border between the west and the east. if now these same poland and lithuania are trying to, well, brazenly throw people out, yes, that is. as if it is believed that nothing will happen to them for this, it seems like the west is protecting belarus, after all, if it
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will enter the eastern european and east asian family, because we also condemn polish actions, in order to somehow bring this problem, for example, to the un level, i think that we must be objective and not let the poles , do not advertise them too much, it was not the poles who came up with the separation of sorts of migrants, it was a long time ago, this is the essence of the migration policy of any state. everyone attracts only specialists to their country, everyone else, well, unfortunately, they don’t need, as for the berlin wall, or the cold war, whatever it is 3:0 or 4:00, let's still remember that the cold war is a war of ideologies, and not a war of just building walls, the wall was built by the poles and lithuanians, but what experience do the poles and lithuanians, let's remember their history in
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the development of this. neither the poles nor the lithuanians have either experience or capabilities, as for the european union, we are talking about a certain bloc, well, today, poland’s position is very harshly criticized in the european union, to say that they are all united . yes, they become toxic, in any case, that is, taking into account those actions, even based on the testimony, based on the picture at the scenes of the incidents, one thing can be said is that now, if we have already started talking about ideology, then the countries of the european union follow exclusively fascist ideology, that is, these are the ideals that are still alive, with which the whole world has struggled, now they are simply expressed in this form, that is, they -
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considering, as i already said, decide who lives within the european union, that is, they elevate themselves above other people, that is, they really put themselves above, we have a certain article that can , for example, relatively speaking, ultimately lead to us condemning this fascism, well , really, well, we have articles, that is, now everything is qualified as a crime against the safety of humanity, that is, also for the propaganda of war, this is obviously leaving one in danger, this is when we are talking about those people who are thrown out, they die from the cold or from - which is up to the death penalty for these crimes, of course, that such actions will already be sneaking, they understand that perhaps their life will already be over by the time it comes , look, yesterday, the fascist who fled from ukraine during the post-war was honored, and honored in the canadian parliament, this
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man lived to see... .. the moment when the president of ukraine, the prime minister of canada applauds him, they feel great, here you are absolutely right on topic, because we see what kind of noise generally arose as a result, yes, there will probably be more views on youtube as the canadian applauded parliament to this criminal, and some apologies were sent later, but again we understand perfectly well that within the framework of the information war that is being waged, the viewer will probably forget, the viewer will watch this applause, accept certain information, and i think, i hope, after all some people will still turn away from this fascist ideology, which preaches, among other things, that this is how it will happen, and here you can probably look a little deeper, or maybe this was done specifically so that biden would have a reason to turn away a little from zelensky, because these concepts, these movements, are already from the zelensky regime.
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the whole world is getting tired, we see this from the information resources that broadcast, we see the statements of their closest neighbors, we see the statement of the poles, who said, well, if you don’t want it, we shouldn’t ask for friendship with ukraine, it’s ukraine that should behave like this so that we continue to help ukraine , supply weapons and so on, we see the grain deal, which is in question, and we understand that this unity, the pseudo-unity of the european union, is in in general... well, look, they touched on the fact that poland acts with an eye on brussels, that is, they, i think , are fed up, they believe that they will be protected at any time, at any moment, they will stand up there, that no matter what they did, but it seems to me that this is very self-confident, when they realize this, there is some fear that they will become, well, really harsh, i absolutely agree with you, but we must not forget that in 3 weeks we have parliamentary
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elections will take place and they, they, yes, we have ahead, they will have parliamentary elections, so the peace party and the civic platform party , they are very competitive with each other, in this context, naturally, the polish establishment, it will do whatever it wants, most importantly, with this photograph, which we have seen since twenty -one, yes , in principle, they will do similar things in order to prove to the polish population that they are acting correctly, they are proposing certain development programs, in fact, even here today in the program there was a question, will anything change or not? i'm here i read peter’s telegram, and he just expressed that the opinion that if peace comes, it’s probably bad, but it ’s worse than isolation, yes, i’ll explain why, because
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peace today creates a certain nervousness and lack of such an agreement within the framework of the euro-atlantic, we understand perfectly well what will happen next, yes, and what will tusk , i don’t agree here, that - the americans want something there, to bend someone there, yes, they want to change the peace to a civilian one platform because it is more profitable today a democratic administration, more manageable, it will carry out these agreements , carry out euro-atlantic discipline, peace is introducing the authorities into this discipline, corpses will remain on the border, of course, look, now the germans are trying to introduce... now passport control, and then maybe they will introduce border control, there will be corpses, if not on this side , then stop, but i am sure that tusk will pursue exactly the same policy, it will just be quieter, look at biden, who
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came to the united states, became even more to pursue a tough anti-migration policy, i think we need to agree that when our president said that only an independent state can decide the topic of elections, today we have all known for a long time that they are poland, the whole of europe is under external control, if we take today the classical concept of the president of the people, whom he chooses, namely the classics, the juridical, the legal basis of the constitutional, you and i see perfectly well that not one of the leaders of the european union fits this, has long been heard among a number of politicians, that these are regional managers whom the united states sends to work, and today there will be a choice of manager, appointment of a manager, but not elections, a mechanism will take place, it seems, but it will be, well, here i just want to add, look who morovechsky, the former leader, is
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branch of an english bank in poland, that’s the whole essence, sasha, we are now going to advertise, i have one last question for you, can a criminal case be brought against one of the leaders of poland or lithuania, here is today’s example that in relation to head of the international criminal court of russia. the criminal case was filed in a criminal case, because we know the story with putin, who was also filed in this criminal court , we can, in principle, well, i’m not saying now, a purely political decision, or really the people who pass such laws, or make or give orders to kill people, they also bear responsibility, of course, they bear responsibility, and you need to understand that this responsibility will overtake them, including on our part, it is clear that they may be in certain cases, criminal cases have been initiated. at the same time, you need to understand that we have now talked a lot about elections, about something else, but we should not forget that these are, after all, countries of double standards, like poland, like lithuania, because in what we are now talking about means, then that they do not allow migrants
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in, while these are the countries that in 2020 absolutely calmly sheltered under their wing the extremists, terrorists who now exist there, they are creating their own coalitions, that is, they are consolidating, they are developing some kind of actions and even taking into account the elections in those countries, it is unknown to what tune, according to what instructions they will begin to work. it is well said, according to what instructions these same extremists and terrorists will begin to work, who tried to break the constitutional system of our country, to seize power, no one knows what instructions will come to them there, because in essence they are now the center of extremism and terrorism, they can really calmly keep criminals in their place, while absolutely pouring gas on children today we are discussing people who need help with our limited neighbors,
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let’s call it that. anton, well, journalists get the feeling that belarus is such a besieged fortress, in the south we have a minefield, in the east there is a five-meter fence, checkpoints are closed , checkpoints are closed in lithuania about... what on the border anyway? well, you correctly said that today at the border, the border infrastructure, which... provides channels for international relations, has suffered greatly, let’s say, as a result of the actions of the collective west, or specific countries, in the latian direction there was only one working checkpoint left, which reduced the throughput by exactly half, although they closed the most popular checkpoint , siilina, through which the transgra was drained, there were 14 km to daugo, about 80 km to braslov, that is, between these two tourist infrastructure. large cities that have medical care,
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large chain stores, and so on, here it must be said that, first of all , it is the visa-free regime that irritates them, because all the statistics, which we regularly publish in all our sources, says that visa-free travel is popular, listen, yes, in the city, it’s a day off, i shared my impressions, you’re driving around minsk, you feel like you’re in riga, cars have latvian license plates , they go to... motorcyclists, that is, well, it’s obvious that , well, not only in lithuanian ones, i’ve seen a lot lately, even more in grodno, there ’s probably a question there, the settlement was closed, how can they even close it, it was closed for 2 hours, yes, you talked about what should be there some kind of emergency situation should be declared, on the part of latvia there is an emergency situation, they declared such an emergency situation during the period of increasing migration threat, in their opinion, now, they also have such a regime, under the conditions
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of which they are attracting additional forces, as if to protection of the state border, and the most important thing that i want to focus on is that they are closing checkpoints through which migrants did not pass, we talked about this in the first half of our program, but just under under the pretext of fighting the migration crisis, allegedly, they allegedly want to redistribute those forces that will be released from closed checkpoints. just think about it, in fact they would have to increase the number of employees at the second checkpoint to increase the throughput capacity no , there is logic, i, as a latvian journalist, can ask you, please tell me, anton buchkovsky, from what minute does a person start approaching a latvian citizen with a request to recruit him from the belarusian kgb, that is, as i understand it, the first person he sees is a citizen latvia is a border guard, border guard, they are told how you will arrive.
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anton will come up and say, let's work with us, the same way, well, no, of course, well, but they are well intimidated by this, intimidated, they come to us , in particular people come from the baltic states, they say that even when they cross border, they are told by the customs officer or the border service of that side: you are traitors, why are you taking so long and this control is going on, they see it, hear it, well, according to the numbers they are not intimidated, we have about 3000 for this. literally recently we went to lithuania and reported that there were no questions for the belarusian border guards, everything went through very quickly , well, the lithuanians probably artificially, well, they didn’t ask, they didn’t ask, but it just took a very long time before closing the checkpoints, they
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they started this, they didn’t slow down, the throughput in the lithuanian direction does not exceed 36%, that is, if let’s say 100 trucks have to pass, yes, then only 36 will pass, so this turned out to be not enough for them, well, because if they let through even fewer, but here there are statistics border control at checkpoints, in fact, before and after the closure on the lithuanian border, has grown there, well , it has grown significantly, because at each checkpoint by 25-30 percent. the number increased after the closure of two checkpoints in the lithuanian direction at neighboring checkpoints in the lithuanian direction - the flow, or rather the queue, the waiting time increased by at least 20%, on peak days by 40, well, here we have it, look, how does this growth grow so red after when we were the checkpoints are closed, that’s absolutely right, roman, good afternoon, through which checkpoint did you enter the republic of belarus, well , first of all, i ran, i ran. already a citizen of latvia, how long have you been living in belarus?
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well, since december 15, december, in fact, through which checkpoint did you go through, through the lithuanian, through the lithuanian, through the latvian one, they didn’t let you out, and i couldn’t go there, because i was scared that they would just stop me there on the spot in general, they will be sent to the local gestapo service, well, that’s what you can call it, okay how long will it take me to ask a question, kirill , a person approached you and started recruiting, well, no one approached me personally, but i will say that the really terrible situation is that they are putting up these posters that say don’t move in, they will recruit you there, everything will be terrible , and you won’t come back, and indeed, well, people somehow react to them, in general, well , they perceive them, but i will say, people of course react, because they really don’t want to come back, because when... here people come here and like it, that’s the problem, the second thing is that at the border it’s very often such, you know, populist reports are made by reporters when they approach the grandfather who is sitting there, well, excuse me, there in moskvich, but only in our opel there will be some kind of with this trailer, which means that he is going for
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firewood, purposefully to the republic of belarus, because they are 10 times cheaper, and they come up to him and say, he will recruit you and in general everything will be scary there, the grandfather looks at him and just thinks, are you like a son, are things okay there or not? look, novel, you are following those anyway news that is happening in latvia, how did they explain the closure of the checkpoint, now in latvian citizens? yes, everything is very simple, in fact, this is window dressing, it is being done for brussels, because there is a command from above that these are the aggressors, supposedly their neighbors have everything to do, yes, well, and accordingly, as if this is another reason for their own citizens of the republic of latvia should not be released, because word of mouth works very well, we know this, lithuania and poland are located on the borders of the european union. and accordingly, so that to protect them, well, you need more money. we know very well that latvia itself will exist, these three latvian border guards who came to the universe, they
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will save it in general, if suddenly, as if hypothetically, our troops enter the territory, you don’t know here. they drive, so all these concrete things that they put there, it’s specially for tanks, you understand, that’s it, we have to burn out, i also have an opinion about this, because there were such facts when after the closure checkpoints in lithuanian direction, citizens of a neighboring state, residents of nearby regions, after all... came to the checkpoint with a demand to let them through and so on, for which they naturally received physical pressure from the state border security service, they kill people there, rather than beat the people, so today , probably, in neighboring countries, when closing checkpoints, it is very important to put reinforced concrete blocks to stretch the thorn, simply due to the fact that so that
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their own population cannot, purely following your logic, the blocks are not from belarusians, but from latvians themselves, i have this question, well, from the theoretical category, some people say that it is divided into two camps, that is , some say that sooner or later we will come to the point that the european union countries will completely close all checkpoints, others say , that no , well, this still won’t be allowed, then the question arises, who will remain this very window, well, through whom will all the flows go, who will receive the main dividends? i would n’t rule out the possibility that the european union, well... let’s not say european after all union, because what we are discussing now is at the national level, this is something that has never happened, there is european legislation, european law enforcement practice, and there is a national one, in february of twenty-one, when potash fertilizers were banned, for the first time in lithuania
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parliament, potassium is a threat to national security, this was not carried out at the eu level, but only at the national level, today all countries are doing ... everything to strengthen the national bloc, so i would not exclude the option the fact that this is going to collapse is in the end, but you asked about borders, so i wouldn’t rule out what will come to their minds at the next moment, it’s very difficult to say, but how long brussels will tolerate this is a big question, because otherwise, everything that has been developed over decades, without these countries, they are new, only... not us, not belarusians, not russians, namely poland, lithuania, latvia and estonia, well, they are actually under the influence america, well, isn’t it, that’s the main question, that’s when they say
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the european union does not agree, well, germany did not agree with the explosions of the northern flows, what was it able to do, today we are talking about the fact that there is a collective west, yes, there are different points of view, but it agrees on one thing, allowing the elimination of the unipolar world order , therefore, not only here we have a border and they are building fences, finland is building a fence, norway, norway is building a fence, absolutely right, we should talk about dividing the world into a collective west and a collective east, what are european bureaucrats doing? they are ruining their own economy in the name of this euro-atlantic solidarity, value-based solidarity, let's speak directly about racism, colonialism, arrogance, they themselves called it american political scientists jonah golberk, a wonderful book, i advise you to read, liberal fascism from muusalini to aban. that is, they are opposed by the collective east , which speaks not of unipolarity
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, but of multipolarity, there is no racism, there are no higher and lower ones, there are national and union interests, we must somehow agree, reform sofbest, like our minister foreign affairs spoke, and not at the expense of the countries of the collective west, as the americans propose italy, germany, spain, including japan, right? here are the countries of the collective east: india, pakistan, iran, brazil, argentina, south africa, this is what we offer, that is, today we have a fundamental watershed, and it will be possible to get out of this watershed when the international world order is transformed, today we have a point of befurcation , old organs like the un are non-functional, new organs, well, will we have block ones, like highway organs,
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i’ll ask a question, as a resident of your native grodno, i have a question, maybe not only me, it arises, why vilnius and bialystok are a mossy european province, and grodno is the gateway of the eurasian union, so the feeling is that we we are somewhere completely, excuse the expression, there is no such thing as the farthest corner of europe, bialystok and vilnius suffer from the fact that we don’t go to them, in principle, europe doesn’t need them, but here grodno is the gateway, well i’ll even quote the president’s words that this a pearl in general in relation to grodno, he spoke out. in fact, grodno is truly unique in its location and multicultural, and if we talk about the history of grodno, we know, for example, that two sections of the polish-lithuanian commonwealth, the history of such and such also took place in the city of grodno, so all these things, what is happening in the world today, they draw a slightly different parallel, yes, but well, in modern times. there is no feeling of grodno as a wild province, but bialystok appears, but i think this is due to the fact that we are in
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in our traditional culture, you see, we always seemed to be tolerant, we even had four languages ​​on the coat of arms of our state, and therefore in this regard, grodno is probably such a compilation of these good human, humanistic relations, and i can say as a resident of grodno , the fact that visits from abroad are quite popular in our country, just recently, even, yes, of course, before the event, before the events of the twentieth year, for example, we had a lot, of course, of language, lithuanian, latvian, polish, now a little less, but still this movement continues, and we see this in purchasing power, in the average check in a store, because these people come and support our economy, and indeed peter mentioned here today that people come here for cheap goods, they exist. food, medicine, light industry and the like are very popular, so we must still not
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bow down to europe, or even to those closest neighbors who exalt, let me remind you that back in 2017 maps appeared on trains in poland, where grodny, in 2021, when the president , by his decree, established the day of national unity, the foreign ministry said that belarusians have lost their original roots, they are losing, i want to note , that our original roots are definitely not in poland, we must know our history, we must convey it, first of all, to the younger generation, again, do not forget where vilna once was, yes, where bialystok once was, again we do not pretend to redefine boundaries, you as a person with an official position, it’s probably impossible to say, but i always say that vilna, in principle, has roots in belarus. bialystok is the city in which the congress for the unification of two belaruss, western and eastern, actually took place, right pet? absolutely right, roman,
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the question is how many people from your circle, not your circle in latvia , would like to leave latvia? due to the fact that some countries seem to exalt themselves, i won’t say who your president is, who your prime minister is, yes one is gay, one is gay, the other is considered a porn star, and this is normal for latvia. well, now these are realities and such everyday ones, which you want or do n’t want, but the citizens of latvia need to come to terms with, in general, every day, i myself lead the block, yes, this is how life goes on in the republic of belarus, i compare a little there, but i have more such a politicized bloc, i will say that i receive from twenty to 50 requests every day, roman, how to come, how to integrate belarus into the republic of belarus, what is needed, what are the first steps, that is, well, the request is unrealistically colossal, i’ll be honest, i even have... such an idea has already appeared, how to create some kind of community, consolidation of lots to help, create a company, well, why a company, i’m not a businessman,
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well, but the request is colossal, of course, and... you know, this has been going around for a long time now, when it appears in the media about the dictatorship in the republic of belarus, yeah, and many are already saying that if we had such a dictatorship, maybe there would be order would be, well, such rumors are already circulating, as if in the kitchens, vitaly yuevich, here we are anyway, let’s return to the issue of closing borders, well, here’s your opinion, again from the category of assumptions, they close the borders , well, let’s say they close all the checkpoints, well , it seems they will be protected, there’s nowhere else to go from migrants, there from some threats that they are hiding, what will happen next, well, the fences will be erected, dismantled, probably built again, and what else, i will return to external rule, this is the big strategy of the united states of america, we can take directive no. 2 of 1948, of the security council, and there everything is sorted out by pay, including
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the baltic countries, how they should act, now 70 years have passed and this mechanism has unfortunately come into effect, closing itself... today for the united states of america they are reaching a completely different level of military action, that is, today they have russia, the slavs - one the category with which civilization needs to fight, islam, the second civilization , then comes india, china, sorted into sections, the war is not in the regions, the war is with civilizations, therefore creating a conflict through fences, precisely creating a conflict, within the social tension, then further movement, development of the conflict. believe me, one of the main tasks is that america does not need rural europe, this has been since the period of vladimir ilivich lenin, he paid attention to the europeans when they fought our socialism, that is, this is the same strategy, today no, this is a unified management, europe - this is such an appendage, where i will return again, their top managers stand, because today the president does not comply with a single constitutional norm
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, no one protects either poland or latvia. no one is the guarantor of the constitution, as our president, completely different manners of behavior, what the owner needs, what the owner says from the ocean, then, here is a top manager in this region, it’s interesting when ours, especially gifted in the twentieth year, broadcast one of theses, means that the head of state must be just a manager, we are the people , we hired him, that means he should be there... we said the authorities here, we are the authorities here, yes, well, that’s understandable, the manager, the president talked, others, but at the same time, still in the head, of course, i don’t know exactly what they had there, but i admit that they believed that this manager, in any case, was, as it were, the main person, that there was no one above him, and so above the manager there is always a general director , at least a manager - this is the one who trades well, the president - who is always
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ahead of his people, there is a clear interpretation, obviously they are trading. they were ready to sell the country, so they weren’t waiting for a manager, but nothing worked out for them, so in my opinion, kovalkova was recently sold, just recently, yes, i was selling i didn’t even promote these names , what are they trying to do inside, by the way, the question is, what do you think, the polish elections on our comrades who fled, they somehow influence, they get sick, what are they doing, they know about it , that someone there will change, their life will be worse, or nothing will change for them, in my opinion, i don’t really... follow them closely, the fugitive headquarters, yes, but sometimes they appear, in my opinion, the narrative is completely different, regarding the passport of new belarus, relatively, and regarding how they will come here with whom they will come there with the eighty kolinovsky regiments there, and how they will build a new belarus here, this election platform slips a little, but let’s say
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they are working out the agenda, what is their task, what they are being given the political establishment, they are working off their responsibilities, they will tell them to work for the elections, a signature, yes they will work for a signature, but at the moment , in my opinion, they are working to destabilize the situation in our country, they are starting to play a little game and will intensify, play out this the election campaign that is ahead of us, so in this context we need to wait for quite a lot of such political statements, including such, i may not have much, but i just have a question, how will they start behind a five-meter fence, that ’s the same -that? here is a very important point, remember, there is one fugitive who allegedly shook hands with the minister of foreign affairs, but did not present any evidence, you know what this is, they have a new task, to say that they are not guilty of anything in the twentieth year come here to take part in the elections, because they won’t give grants any other way, 24-25 is just around the corner, and this is a complete crisis of legitimacy,
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does anyone in this room remember the name sharetsky, he too, where is he now , tikhanovskaya, all her headquarters they must be preparing. i agree with this, but here is another point, poland will use them and throw them out in a certain situation, and here they are beneficial for the poles today, not profitable tomorrow, where will they run, these are their problems, in fact, the main thing for us is ensuring security and what was the inevitability of punishment in regarding their crimes, they are also suffering because of the closure of the borders, they are all talking about how we will go now to treat our teeth, how we will go to surrender, that is, come up with a lot, so for
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them, for ordinary people or for unusual idiots, i want to say, this is also like a problem, how is it solved, or for them it’s good, they closed it closed, i still would like to say a small comment about the fence, it would probably be simple for us, for everyone, if the west were collective separated from us, and we became the collective east, how well everything would be resolved, they are sitting there, and we are at home here, there is a lot more, i am convinced that no one will give up such a huge resource base, which exists in the east, america, in order to support your country, you constantly need resources and money, the european union is currently fulfilling its goal. unfortunately, he cannot satisfy the interests of the united states; as for our opposition, well, unfortunately , the situation is a little more complicated and where will they run? it seems to me that this question is not worth asking today
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, we have a little forgotten that a special representative has been appointed, i don’t remember his exact position, he is a former ambassador to the republic of belarus, the republic of poland in the republic of belarus, and he is now appointed as a kind of coordinator, officially from mead, and he will, yes, here. exactly this word, he will control their contacts, yes, he will control their contacts, their meetings, their trips, so i think that the situation here is a little more complicated and against the backdrop of the elections it is becoming denser and this is the opposition agenda in including, everything will not be so simple, it will not be a guaido scenario, in any case, well, yes, petya, at the end, please tell me, this whole story with supposedly different opinions in poland cannot be a slight brain fog, that is, everyone knows that... it will win, and there is supposedly some kind of sudish confederation, so poland is playing, poland is playing a game invented by the americans, not a fact. poland simply created the same picture for itself
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, similar to the american one, there are liberals of the civil platform, there is peace, but they have an economic base. pis is anglo-american business, the civic platform is a german-brussels business. some certain tactical roughnesses and the main problem of poland in general for us, including the fact that it is not a sovereign or limited sovereign state, which is why they do not change horses at the crossing and it seems to me that everything will remain as it is, which is why i believe that the polish the people do not need to choose between these two parties, at a minimum, they need to get rid of them, this is looking after the polish people, now i will say, poles, you incredible. that's about it, let's see, they supported us, us , as they say, yes, supposedly the people who supposedly came out in august 2020 to change power, we are the power here, let's also support us, that's how they will help us.

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