[000:00:00;00] the work of a deputy is really very complex, very difficult, it is, first of all, establishing contacts between people, the interests he represents in parliament, the state itself, the electoral... for me this is not just a geographical concept, this is the place where my roots are, where for my homeland begins. this is the place where i was born, where i graduated from school, graduated from university and worked in the education system for more than 20 years, my relatives live here, my friends live here, and of course, i know every street, every house, i know how the residents of my district live, how my breshchens

live, of course, i make every effort to... so that our city becomes better, becomes more beautiful, i am a person who builds his own life, which puts before goals, achieves them, but i always remember that there are people next to me, if we talk about life’s credo and motto, it is in a nutshell, with people and for people, the choice: pedagogical specialty, it was to some extent predetermined , because i was brought up in a pedagogical family, my parents worked all their lives in the vocational education system, and well, it was quite natural for me to choose this particular specialty and this profession. i worked in the education system for more than 20 years, and i didn’t think, let’s say, that at some point there would be

a change. my type, type of activity, that this will be parliamentary activity, however, this, well, probably somewhere is indifference, this is an active position, it was supported, heard by my colleagues, they supported me at the stage of nomination. human, who faithfully served the formation of the moscow region and the city of brest. all the same events, methodological events that were held at the gymnasium in the moskovsky district, the city of brestal. at a very high level, the team, and i personally, we monitor marina viktorovna’s affairs, work , pedagogical support, here are meetings with voters, meetings with students, marina viktorovna is not a guest in the second gymnasium, she will never be, as a gentle, modest woman, but very serious about the matter, if she took on some business, then she completed everything

to the end and did it well. our legislation is aimed at strengthening peace in our country, at strengthening the sovereignty and independence of our republic. the main task facing this convocation of parliament, it is truly very important, is to bring the current legislation into line with the updated constitution. the work carried out is very significant in essence, it is already 90% completed. and until the end of this convocation , all tasks will be completed. completed. legislation is within the competence of our commission about education, about culture, about scientific and scientific-technical and innovative activities. over the past year , very significant changes have occurred, which are associated primarily with the adoption of the code of the republic of belarus on education, and accordingly , the entire education system needed to be rebuilt on a new basis. knows how to respect

the opinions of his colleagues, listening carefully. although the opinion may be completely opposite and defend your point of view very delicately, very subtly. a deputy’s working day is quite busy, that’s of course work on bills that are in the relevant commission means holding meetings of working groups, as a rule, we spend one week in the district, this, of course, holds receptions for citizens, direct telephone lines. the most pressing, of course, always remain issues of housing and communal services, people are primarily concerned with issues of landscaping, roof repairs, in principle, these are the main concerns that ordinary citizens live with, very often we meet with young people, with students, with co students of higher education institutions, we speak on completely different topics

, we will try to convey to them what our state lives today, we discuss issues of foreign internal policy of our country, parliamentary activity, it is of course not easy, because this is first of all, yes this. .. life in the tsitnot mode, besides this there is also constant self-improvement, i am studying now as part of my work, here in parliament, i have undergone retraining at the academy of management, i am currently studying for a master’s degree in public administration she is right, a person who will never let you down, a person who is so responsible for all her promises, she is so responsible, such... in 4 years i have never seen marina viktorovna promise something and not fulfill it, not only to her voters there , not only to my parents, but to my colleagues too, my parents have always

been the most dear people to me, they are my friends, they are my good advisers, they always support me in any endeavors, i have always heard good advice from them, when work ... v educational institution, they support me now, they are very wise, honest, hardworking people, they say about such people that the earth rests on them, well, first of all, they are kind to their parents, caring, purposeful, hardworking, you know, there is no such day, so that she doesn’t call her parents, how are you doing, so this is our support, this is our support, well, our...’ it’s very difficult to devote time somewhere to a hobby, but there is always time for it, well, in the end, somewhere... then reboot, for

me this is definitely theater, these are exhibitions, walking in nature is such a real joy, i really love cycling, and i also love horseback riding , i’m not a professional rider, how can you not love them, these big kind animals with big human ones are such a good friend to me and such indeed, my real passion is books , of course our belarusian writers, because i am a philologist, a belarusian philologist by training, my favorite writers are vladimir koratkevich, alexey dudorev, and i really like our meristian poetry. zhytstso daeztsa, kab zhytstso creature, whatever the light-patched yago is not, forever and further in any words, that hell is not right, creature, life is true , whatever creature is alive, not marnavat, not nishchyts, not drilling, creating, i think that in these lines, and

my life credo, it has always been important, to do my job efficiently, and honestly fulfill my duties, my, this duty and professional duty, and to be realized, to be in demand, to be... people need it, i was given a chance, given the opportunity work in full force for the benefit of people, for the benefit of state, and parliamentary status, it is fully realized through active participation in legislative activities, as well as through the good deeds that we do for people and do for our district, for our city in our country.

we decided, together with talai, women, parliamentarians, to organize such a project, you said correctly, it is informational and charitable, there are two components, the first, directly from the mouth. on those people who were in donbass, who saw this disaster with their own eyes, to tell the residents of belarus, citizens of the republic of belarus, about what is really happening there, well, the second, of course, is to knock on the door of every belarusian, and belarus has a very big, big heart, a very big heart, the second, of course, the goal of this project is directly specific charitable assistance to provide donbass, in general, assistance to the children of donbass is provided very systematically, today a multi-ton cargo has already been sent on the initiative of our public association , the belarusian women's union, provides assistance and belaya rus, and the belarusian republican youth union, and other organizations, it was very important for us to still involve

in this project those people who may not be members of these organizations, but would really like to participate, but they simply do not have enough information, that’s true, when the project was launched, on this first day , you know, it struck me that... people said thank you very much, it is very important that this project unites, it unites us all belarusians, no matter how they try to you know, somewhere to... litter, including on for some political reason or otherwise, such bonds are very important to us. belarusians have always done a good deed by talaqa, and today we will do a good deed by talaqa , the whole country, and this, of course, will unite us, consolidate us, and we will be united, in every region there are representatives of the talaya foundation, in every region and people can directly bring there your help. but since this project will be carried out at specific

enterprises, then specific enterprises will collect this assistance, well, it will all be accumulated and then transferred to alexey, and alexey will already take the children, and it is also very important that we thought for a long time, like this , we want this help to be as targeted as possible, what do the residents of donbass need today , what is the list, you know, just the most necessary, simplest things, this is a means of personal hygiene, this and... medicine, there is not enough antipyretic drugs, this is baby food, these are warm things, you know, well, candy, toys for children, because we still have to give children this good emotion, and you know when we talked with representatives of the talaya foundation, they say you you know, it would be nice if they also gave baptismal kits to children, because they

are born where there is a war. and it is very important for families to baptize their children, charity is always important, you see, our belarusians, they are such sympathetic people, look, when there was covid, yes, the whole country helped, and when there was a migration crisis, it was simply amazing, everyone admired how much they gave away the last, because they understood that yes , this is in this border area, where there are refugees from the countries of the middle east, how difficult it is for them and we were ready to give up the last one, and the earthquake in syria and turkey, you also understand, the help was simply so numerous, this is how belarusians live, belarusians have a very big heart, they always connect very quickly to provide assistance, very effectively, most importantly with a soul, you can often hear in belarus that it helps, including bringing children for recovery from various regions of our world, there are a lot of hot spots today,

why? despite, in the conditions of this whole political confusion, turbulence, not the easiest times, but belarus is always at the forefront, always one of the first , responds, invites, and does not regret anything, not for children, not for adults, not for migrants, not for anyone, you know, our country special, in my opinion, firstly, it is a very peace-loving country, this is already , you know, a trend and a brand, this is the first, second thing... the country itself is, in principle, socially oriented, it lives by these laws, the laws of generosity , and i already said that our country has no limit to its generosity, citizens of the republic of belarus, it simply doesn’t exist, we don’t want to run and fuck, like our daughters.

hat of the forest, the light of the sun, and how our life is formed from these fractions , we want to look at this light pa-insha and skin day to cover something new for ourselves, it’s so good for us, where we work for it and from any, from any and belarus. hello, you are watching the program say don’t be silent, in the studio of victoria popova and svetlana smolonskaya. and today our guest is journalist atn, the author of the film, the inside out, about

how easy it is to sell and buy belarusian opposition, ekaterina tikhomirova, good afternoon, ekaterina, hello, colleague, hello, thank you for the invitation, and thank you for such a wonderful film, the views, in my opinion, speak for themselves, oddly enough, it is the most watched even not in belarus, in other neighboring countries, and today ekaterina and i will discuss the details of the work on this film, we are interested in who owns the idea of ​​the film, well, i won’t take credit for it, we worked as a fairly large team, there were really a lot of us, we worked on all projects we practically work together, i can say that this is such a team of professional hooligans, that is, we can work on one project, and somewhere in the process, even at the level of people who deal with technical aspects, the thought may arise, should we do something like this, this idea can ripen, ripen

for quite a long time, well, in the end, this kind of hooliganism, which you saw in belarus alone, and we all saw it, appears on the air, comes into life. including the so -called opposition, that is, this a collective idea, let’s call it unconditionally, unconditionally, well, let’s start discussing the reverse side, why mrs. kovalkova, well, olga kovalkova, was chosen as, well, i wouldn’t even say that the victim, i would say, as the object of your hooliganism , she is quite an interesting character, as i already said in the film, playing the role of the so-called assistant of the russian oligarch, the same olga smirnova, teska kovalkova, kovalkova is an ambitious person, with her political ideas unrealized, in this regard, well, she was probably the easiest victim, well, this is to be honest, but in fact, she tried to engage in politics for quite a long time, she worked in the administration of minsk, she went

to the elections in 16, 1919, participated in various rallies, in 1920 she was like that on top of everything else, i won’t deny, i was very interested in olga kovalkova for a person with such ideological russophobic thoughts, she quite often said that belarus is selling its sovereignty for russian rubles, and supposedly any investments, integrations, cooperation with russia will lead to the fact that... it will give up its sovereignty and become the next russian region, yes, this was her slogan during her parliamentary attempts and elections, she always said you want to wake up tomorrow in russia, this is certainly true, here it was very interesting, but what

what will happen to these ideas of olga kovalkova, to the ideas of her nationalism, if she is offered the russian ruble, well, this is , of course, the toughest test of... all the ideals, at what point, you said there in the film that you spent six months working on him and you they realized that the prank was going to happen, that she was hooked, when she began to show with all her appearance that she had me on her hook, well, she thought that i was the assistant of a russian oligarch, it was she who hooked me, it was i that goldfish, which will help, that is, she thought that she had charmed you and the first tranche was about to arrive across the border in rubles , no, she insisted on the euro, after all, katya, well, i think that the work was of course on the film was difficult, now we are already joking here, laughing, because the project took place, what was the most important thing for you complex, it may not break apart, well, in general, in principle, in journalism there are probably different projects at work, yes, some are going on,

they are going very easily, but some are difficult, it happens, it doesn’t depend on the topic, the topic could be very interesting, well, well, well, something is wrong, and here i would say that the topic was quite easy, huh, well, somehow it all worked out, from the initial idea of ​​​​playing, here we must not forget that olga kovalkova made a very big contribution to the success of this film, well, nothing would have happened without her there wasn’t, but here frankly, yes, but nevertheless, there were small difficulties , well, let’s say, at the level of... the form of presentation, because i wanted to keep this intrigue until the very end, because if we speak honestly and frankly, if we approach to an ordinary minsk resident, belarusian on the street, ask, do you know who olga kovalkova is? well, the average person won’t say, this is such a well-known personality in narrow circles, in narrow circles, yes, but it was necessary to make it

interesting for the average person, accessible, interesting, so that he could look and see, who are these people who organized these women’s riots in 1920, who are these people, so that those who may have gone to the rallies, and those who sympathized with these protesters, and those who have always been supporters of the authorities will see this? , that is, this should be interesting to everyone, here at the moment of the form there were difficulties , to be honest, i tried to refuse that form several times, but in the end it was the one that ended up on the screens, and for myself something new, you are talking about them did you find out while working on the film? himself in fact. i thought every time, i gave olga kovalkova a chance to actually get out of this situation, get out of the game, get out of the game, you can actually say so, that is, there may be some questions somewhere in the process, that is, i went through several times, for example, maybe she somewhere did not understand

what they wanted from her, that is, when she was specifically asked the question that listen, we need a new leader, the belarusian opposition, but instead of tikhonovskaya, because the fact that she discredited herself doesn’t suit us at all all this, kovalkova understood everything clearly, she knew perfectly well what they wanted from her, well , there is no need to go far, in fact, she even invented khodorkovsky. no one ever said any names or surnames, yes, yes, yes, that is, she somehow came up with the idea that you are a representative of khodorkovsky, yes, yes, that is, i don’t know, it was such an illusion of hers from the very beginning began, but she didn’t actually ask for any last names or first names, all that she was told during the first call was that i was the assistant of an influential russian philanthropist, who, yes, he has influence on everything that happens in the cis countries. there are interests, and what was probably not a discovery for me, well, i probably didn’t expect such a scale, but

greed, banal greed, because one of the moments when it was possible for olga to play out completely different scenarios, this is not in the film , i’ll tell you a little secret now, but during our first call, it was she who sent us that one , let’s say, and the rider, yes, 500,000 euros, for which i have an estimate. which she is going to work, but it’s clear that this money, it’s not will be given to her every second, we offered her 20,000 euros, right now, right now we are giving, just to check how she works, at this very moment, when we were talking about the hook, and she began to hook me, she she said, no, you know, this is not serious, i didn’t even lift a finger for such pennies, no, no, no, no, she began to inflate her price and... less, but

these are approximate amounts, of course, of course, you understand, you are talking about these 2000, that is, even at that moment she began to inflate her worth, but it didn’t click for her that this was some kind of scam , but would an influential russian oligarch, philanthropist , really be such, well, such small amounts, and of course, here it is obvious to me what amounts they are used to ? moreover, in the film she says that she had very little time to check everything, that this is such, well, an approximate cost estimate, but at the same time in the film she confessed to you, let's listen to what she said, as if also according to the second we are already planning to implement some things, of course, in order to implement some kind of strategy today... in such a rather difficult situation, we need a kind of resource, we need a human resource, also, now we need to revise the strategy, i’m not

sure, it’s just that the office is ready revise it, that’s the problem, and people seem to see it, this is my, my, my feeling, yes, people see it, and well, they’re probably becoming less and less interested in, maybe the opposition, but because it seems to be doing such things upper urn, or completely internal processes, well, this is such a revelation, but here is what i would like to note, not only for us, but for the audience, the audience, well, of course, the main character, she got used to the role, to the image right away, they note your good performance, that is, you got used to it professionally into the role, although of course in life you are not like that, that is, there, as an assistant to the oligarch, you are so assertive, so sharp, well, of course in life you are a completely different person, but you agree that you coped with this task as an actor , well, it was my debut, honestly.

my team, we made a worthy product, i i can praise myself and the guys who work with me, and of course, but it’s unrecognizable to say that ekaterina tikhomirova and olga smirnovo are two different people, yes, well, we’ll probably show it to viewers who haven’t had time to watch the film yet the cherry on the cake, the wrong side and files, so -called and will discuss, at the moment we are talking. not today, i mean in belarus, yes, naturally, when you come to power, if i’m interested in something specific, then you need to talk about this specific thing, that is, as if you’re interested some specific enterprise, as a large businessman, who certainly also has an interest, our boss, also wanted to participate in that privatization process, and welcome belarus, which will be built with your participation, well, in particular, interest... in not all-chemical industry, yes, i understand that too, the school

they have, the cia, is probably good, it doesn’t name names, but it means hodarka. does not name the enterprise, but understands that it will have to be ceded, she agrees to everything in advance, yes, of course, this is amazing, this is the effect after the release of the film it is difficult to overestimate, we have already said , in disarray, the fugitives in the camp, you saw, they probably thank you and the belarusian propaganda for cleansing their unstructured ranks, you expected such a reaction, but i expected a reaction, of course, i won’t say that like this... the final screensaver went on, just a ton of messages rained down on me, not a single negative one, not a single one, people, belarusians, thanked me, were very surprised, i can still say that i also received voice messages, there were also colleagues ,

journalists, from beltelerokpania and in general white and journalists and just spectators, the most memorable message is probably from the citizens of russia, hello, we watched it, we really liked it, and now please, can you do the same with the new kids, but for me the amazing reaction was that they didn’t keep silent for long, there was some kind of... then a pause was taken for these opponents of ours, and then they immediately began to kill kovalkova, in general, yes, without thinking about the fact that these are our people, our ranks, we need to protect them somehow, no, that is, what is this about testifies, what do you think, katya? interest in belarus belarusian so-called opposition, it was in the twentieth year, it was before the northern military district, before the events in ukraine, now, well, firstly, quite a lot of time has already passed, well, everyone understands perfectly well that this time was given

enough to build up these extremists who were supposed to pump up belarus... here inside the country, after their own escape, the money was cut, but uh, not that everyone even wants to eat, you don’t want to cut your diet, so why from this list? they will be this one the amount that they are given for food is divided among 10-20 people, no, the top will eat exactly the same, those who, well, will go somewhere a little to the side, so well , i think that fewer people, more, of course , of course, of course, that is, that is why they thank you. well, the fact that they immediately began to wet her, this once again confirms the idea that we all know, and which kovalkova herself emphasized in the film, that there they have confusion and vacillation and discord, and those public justifications of kovalkova, which followed after the film, did they evoke any emotions in you? they were quite expected, the person essentially had nothing to say, but at the same time something had to be said, from myself i can

say that it would probably be better, she was silent. you have already admitted that you gave her a chance, and well, in general, i suspect, katya, that you are an integral, kind person, and you didn’t want to bury this representative of the constitutional court there just like that, but you once felt sorry for her in what - at that moment, you know, i didn’t set a goal to bury it, but i didn’t set a goal to dig it up either, so honestly, yes, she was given, she was given a lot of chances to get out of this situation, maybe even suspect something somewhere, yes, or give us more detailed answers about whether i feel sorry for her, you know, well, here’s the character , let's call it to put it mildly, very ambiguous, is it possible to feel sorry for such people, is also a big question, but still a woman should always remain a woman, and a woman is the one who sympathizes first of all, not that i sympathize with her, but at the time of the film's release, i wondered

if she was watching now, or if she was watching that night will you be able to sleep peacefully? i agree with you that all this fake stuff, this whole story, but it doesn’t seem to leave any chance for pity towards them, alas, they didn’t feel sorry for anyone, she doesn’t feel sorry, even in our conversation, when she takes and just to an unknown person, whose name she doesn’t even know, she’s already practically giving, yes, belarusian industry, and people work there, she’s giving people, giving their destinies, they work and after privatization, as we know, they won’t work, they’ll just lose these work, what do you think, after the wrong side kovalkova is a downed pilot, or she will still find an opportunity to fall to some other oligarchy source, well , she will try, for the same reason, she wants to eat, but another thing is that a trail will remain behind her, and i am sure that in the future she will be repeatedly reminded of the sale

of the enterprise, and communication with the so-called russian... well, then i didn’t understand about the parties, that is, for them it doesn’t mean anything at all, it’s a game. like that, she easily abandoned her party right away, right? she was ready to give up the russian ruble anything. but do you have the passion today to continue this series of revelations? there is excitement, it was and will be. in fact, this is the third series of the inside out project. we will continue to work, we will look for different forms. i can say that yes, in the near future, we guarantee. something else very interesting, i think that kovalkov’s associates and current ex-comrades are tense, ekaterina , what do you think, well, in general, this gang of coordinators from vilnius, from warsaw, they

represent some kind of real opposition force, it seems to me that if you think like this called the belarusian opposition, probably the belarusian people are lucky that it is like this, if there were no such opposition , it would definitely have to be invented, firstly, in the twentieth year itself, we have repeatedly had this gathering of people sitting today in vilnius, poland, these are such idiots, well, i don’t know, here and here mmmrode can be envious, that is , they collect something there, do something there, these are the most natural swindlers who see it all perfectly well, it’s a pity for the people, of course, who at one time were led to abandon here and at home, their families and ran away, i’m not talking now about going home openly for them, we will already help, open our eyes to everything that is happening

then and today, well, you just answered my question, in general, we were visiting in this studio, the chairman of beltelerokia ivan, mikhaal chaysmant, he was also asked this question, is it worth remembering about them at all, well , some people believe that if we had already forgotten about them, then they would have disappeared altogether, would they have disappeared from the agenda? in fact, this is a very interesting question, on the one hand, of course well, we use such materials, we bring them into the light, yes, in fact, they are of little interest to anyone in their swamp, so they are all there, this is on the one hand, on the other hand, if we do not remind that such here is a gang of crooks, it exists, it lives today, begs for sanctions and tries to harm the belarusian people, then... how will the belarusian people themselves know about this, well , if we are talking about the fact that the media should be open, then we should raise these topics, but could they

pose some kind of threat in the upcoming elections? at least they are gathering, they are going to do this, now there are upcoming elections, they are trying to somehow create the appearance of so-called consolidation, they are not succeeding, as kovalkova said, because each of them wants... to actually come to power , if we return to kovalkova, she, as you said, pours out her soul with revelation, no, in fact, she was just trying to convince me that neither lotushki nor tikhanovsky are worthy of the money of a russian philanthropist, that is, this is selling yourself, selling yourself , yes, here they are well, they’re standing in the window, and they’ll try, because well, you have to understand, it’s just business, this is how they survive and ensure a decent existence for themselves, not the people who are abroad and they keep them at bay and are still stuffing them with information, then that they will be imprisoned, they will be beaten there and so on, the people who are in poland, in lithuania today, they are really scared, well, this must be understood, and

this is true, i know this for sure, the people themselves spoke about it, they are afraid, they are afraid while there and afraid when this is to come back, we will call kovalkova olya half a million, let this trail follow her now all her life, in our elections, even if she doesn’t apply for it, let’s pause, i remind you, we have a telegram channel, tell me, don’t be silent, subscribe, ask questions and invite guests, we are in touch, this is a program, don’t be silent, our guest is a journalist from the belarusian radio and television news agency, ekaterina tikhomirova, ekaterina, we’ll talk about you. in november 2019 you came to minsk, we even have evidence of why you wanted to emphasize on it, pay attention to the date, because everyone who is trying to denigrate you writes that you arrived in the twentieth year, this is a mistake, friends,

ekaterina was in minsk on november 19, long before the famous events, here is such a small remark for our worst friends , but still, what prompted you to move in november 2019, our capital from kaliningrad, in fact , should have moved back in 2010-2011, and my husband ’s grandparents lived here, grandfather is an honored person, this and the prosecutor, the military prosecutor of the baltic fleet in the past, and military prosecutor of the belarusian military district, vladimir alekseevich davidov, he called us here, we were just finishing university, i knew perfectly well that i would work as a journalist, and honestly, i was very simply scared, just humanly scared to come to another country after university,

but who i am needed here, in fact, in 2019 - a tragedy happened in the family, uh, my mother-in-law, yes, my husband’s mother, she suddenly left, here in minsk she looked after her father, vladimir alekseevich, he was 90 years old at that time , and honestly, we just couldn’t leave him here alone, that is, yes, he could afford to support himself, hire a nurse to stay in some boarding house, but these are not our own walls, these are not our own people, we transferred him to kaliningrad they couldn’t have made it, he simply wouldn’t have survived this road , to be honest, my husband probably couldn’t make such a decision, such responsibility for himself, because we have a small child, we have a comfortable life, a house, my relatives in kaliningrad, his relatives in kaliningrad, i probably took took such courage that he didn’t even voice it, i said, okay, i agree, let’s go, let’s try, in fact , throughout this very long time, we came here four times a year for

these big holidays that exist in russia, yes, it’s the new year holidays, march 8th, well, we were here, well, consistently for 5 days , that is, i was fascinated by belarus, in particular i was in minsk for a long time, well, this is how the circumstances developed, why not try, we came to try , and then covid happened, and the borders were closed, there seemed to be no options left, so to speak. but we didn’t change our minds even once, that is, we weren’t disappointed in the choice. question about minsk, do you have a place for power in our capital? but there is not in the capital, i am a person who grew up next to the sea, was born next to the sea, of course, at some point i really missed him, but well, we people somehow find a replacement, this is not about changeability of character and mood, but i was fascinated...

and the belarusian fields, their breadth, their hospitality, beauty, and belarusian village, of course, probably, some period of time will pass, i will definitely get a house in a belarusian village, where i will sit on the porch, read some historical novels and rest my soul, here you are sitting in minsk, watching the protests , you understand that you a journalist, after all, and not just a faithful wife, and you write a message to the chairman of the beltelerdiocompany ivan mikhailovich eismant on social networks that you are ready to become a leader, this message seems to me to have determined your future fate, yes, what was in this message, the first the line was not even hello, but in capital letters, a soldier asks to join the detachment, and then hello, yes, approximately, and a summary, of course, and how i ended up in minsk, what motivates me, what i see, well, something like this, you took a long time

to decide , in general, not all people are able to cross this threshold and write a personal message to the chairman of the white television there, i can even say what was the main impetus for all these events, we in the summer of 2020, when all this was happening, we went to kaliningrad, we had to pick up the child to bring him here to first grade, we arrived, it was the last days of august, and the first of september is just around the corner, well, the usual maternal needs , the child needs to be taken to the store to buy tights, we went to the supermarket, at some point the supermarket became quiet, just silence, we left the store, and some strange people were walking around, some white, red, well, strange people, then we realized that what was happening, it was sunday, it was the 30th of august in my opinion, we need to go home, but how? here are 500 m, approximately to

the house, we... walked arm in arm with the child, my husband carried a child on himself, through this crowd, such uncles were walking against the grain, i’m not afraid of this word, in a very strange state of soul and body, if we speak figuratively, and they shouted all sorts of slogans in order to rouse this here crowd, and and we came home accordingly, a lot of feelings arose inside , to be honest, because the events... what is happening outside the window, some kind of, i don’t know, some kind of injustice, stupidity of behavior of this one crowds of mothers with children who... there on the street, i gave perfectly i realize to myself that i need to wait, i need to wait, send the child to school, so i waited for this 24 hours, sent the child to the line, wrote a message to ivan mikhailovich, but first i really consulted, consulted with my, and

kaliningradsky , let’s say a teacher, journalist andrei vypolzov, i say, listen, well, what should i do, i say, i don’t know, i’ll send it to the post office, it will get lost there, in general, as far as journalistic ethics allows you to do such things as write a message and there it can get lost too, he said, knock on all doors, try everywhere, you are a journalist , and you have a way to prove yourself, you can do it, try, don’t delay, well, i waited for the end of the line, with the prepared text, i just clicked send, here there was a reaction, yes, yes, it followed very quickly, you were invited and what came to be done right away, well, first you had to show yourself, well, it’s clear that i came, but look. these are my materials, i worked in radio journalism, look, here is my voice, yes, like this program, i was busy, but this was the squeeze, yes, i need to show myself, what can i say , and note, yes, in belarusian television and in general in belarus as a state,

you are always given a chance, but a stranger came , yes, well, he just said , advertised yourself, you are given a chance, well, if you are talented, if you can do something , please go show me, i was given this chance, i did, it seems, there were three test reports, one has already been aired, and then literally, probably a week later, then - he headed the reporters department alexander khorovets, who, accordingly, was the person who conducted the interrogation, yes, he said, well, listen, you came, you came bright and loud, well, show me what you can do, and i knew how to write texts, i knew how to work with my voice, i i don’t know what a picture is, that is, i don’t know how to work with a picture, i said okay, let me show you and tell you which western funds, which structures are financing the belarusian protest, well, i spent some time on these sites state department, various programs and the first investigative program came out, then it wasn’t framed as katyushin’s calculation, well, well, it was a harbinger of katyushin

’s calculation, yes, that is, and then it grew into the category katyushin’s calculation and this can be considered your exam or baptism of fire, in atn, right? you can say so, who came up with this name, katyushin’s calculation? not me, not me, but this name was invented by sergei khamitovsky, the current head of the television news agency , yes, that is, it also took shape in such an idea, also collective, well, very worthy, of course, you can say, you yourself recommended; in my memory, only one colonel made such a fast career. ekaterina, for me it was honestly unexpected to learn that you are the author of such films, projects, you are afraid of the camera, how do you then hide, mask this excitement in front of the camera, but i am afraid of cameras, live broadcast, that is, yes, i

have to tune in, because the situation quite stressful, i will say that all presenters have their own life hacks, and i have one, maybe a little... childish, a little naive, but that's when i run from one building in another, i’m going down from the sixth floor, somewhere on the second floor there is such a door, honestly, i need to find out where it leads, of course, but somewhere in this position i definitely start to tune in, and i definitely remember my grandmother , because i became a tv news presenter, worked in the media, it was her dream, alas, yes... but she’s no longer with us, but i’m asking her for help so that the technology doesn’t fail , first of all the nerves, certainly the nerves, and then come to the studio early, be sure tune in, merge with the atmosphere, well, i’ll say this, that our operators are probably a little nervous, because they also

have to arrive long before, so as not to leave me in the studio, ekaterina, in a stupor in the twentieth year , i remember that persistent rumors circulated that we had here the russian landing party has settled down, in company, and obviously, it’s you who are the landing party, imagine this situation, august 2020, i already know that i’ll be returning from kaliningrad, and i’ll be storming, let ’s say, belarusian television, august 2020 i’ve been lying on the beach for a year and opening various kinds of telegram channels, and there they write: russian troops have landed, i think, well, that’s it , i’ll take my place, then you won’t kick me out, you know, i would even hand over the tickets to you... to be honest, i came i wish it was earlier, but the tourist season from kalingrad is quite problematic, i had to sigh, exhale, say, so, katya, if this is your place, then you will be there, and accordingly, on september 1, as if i didn’t find a landing force, it turns out ,

i parachuted myself, yes, thank you, thank you like that the so-called belarusian opposition and their propaganda for the fact that i’m here today, but in general, where did this come from about the landing, what do you think, why was it necessary, what does it seem to me, it just had to be carried out once again? this russophobic line, besides the belarusian television, there were supposedly rumors that it’s not a belarusian amon, it’s a russian amon, but how... we figure them out , they have a more clear r or t, yes, well, like that plan, well, it was catching up - russophobia, just it for a certain period of time they detained them, so that later they would probably shoot again, once again they just wanted to carry out the same project , anti-russia, which we see today in ukraine, they wanted to do the same with belarus, because honestly and frankly, probably, only in the unity of those here are three countries, and we will have... a very strong future, the west simply does not want to let us unite as three nations or one

whole, well, now 3 years have passed, tell me what color you brought to the team of the telelenova agency, here which one do you like i’m doing the best job, do you think, well, except for acting, now i won’t push myself too hard, it’s not fair, i’m very critical in general, i always even scold myself for some moments, although probably it would probably be worth stopping to even praise some moments, but i really love working on live television, this is a panorama, i really love making original materials, because from beginning to end, this is my work, my child, let’s say, i hope that i brought something new to author journalism, because well, here the girls are wonderful, they make wonderful materials, but everyone has their own style, i try to make my materials in such a way as to enter into a dialogue with the audience, give it

a basis, think, maybe not even believe, maybe even doubt, in this way, setting it up so to speak , this very dialogue, yes, so that i would talk to him, he would talk to me, then it also happens that they write and we discuss, yeah, you just said that you are all different, indeed, every author, journalist , atn is a personality, with its own. in the handwriting style of ksenia lebedeva - this is one thing, masha petrashka is completely different, the presentation of information, you have your own, but most often i see you in the company of anastasia benedesyuk, here, you are friends, or are these collegial , some kind of just discussions you have, well, we are in the same department, she is in charge , the reporters department, besides this, anastasia is the person who introduced me to tt with the beltelerokpania, it was she who showed me

where it was. relationship, i can say with great gratitude, i can approach her, ask for some advice, evaluate some material, she does the same sometimes, that is, this is also a big compliment, tell me, you said that for almost 10 years, yes , you tried to move to belarus, you planned in the tenth year, it only happened in the nineteenth year, which was the most difficult thing to adapt to in our: in the country after kaliningrad? you know, i didn’t feel like i had moved somewhere, i’ll tell you honestly, i got the impression that , well, i’ve walked here a little, now i’m here, i can say that you’re already so used to it that you can’t lock the car, and you can, a day later it indeed, this is a story from my life, i tried to withdraw money, well, i mean, i withdrew money from an atm, forgot my card, and a day later i rushed.

and where, why, and just automatically walked up to this machine, my card was lying on top, now it’s difficult to just take care of yourself, that well, you don’t need to scatter your things, but here, if they take them somewhere, they will most likely take them to the police , yes, where you can call and they’ll even bring it to you, well, i can say that this is not a reproach to my beloved country, it’s there now that’s also what it’s all about, everything goes well, you feel safe, i, as a mother, can say that my child can go safely. take a walk in the yard, and there are no fears or worries about it, and this is worth a lot, of course, well, the most terrible things, of course i read about you, in the ideas of our friends, so to speak, as we have mentioned them more than once, they are not only yours they compose a biography, but photographs and documents, as i understand it, are forged, and with your face, can all this compromising evidence be considered your universities in the information war, have you become, well, did the journalist take a more aggressive approach after they went through all this?

actually no, i won't even say that this is somehow a fair deal. firstly, while still working in kaliningrad, i had already developed an immunity to such things , in principle, and the support of the family and their reaction are very important in this matter, because in the material that was now on the screen, there was an attempt to create a quarrel, so to speak , my husband and i, my husband takes this to everything, not without a sense of humor, that is, absolutely. we laugh, although well, yes, some things are so lousy the content, of course, is unpleasant to read, but all this quickly goes away , well, there is an expression that the more incredible the lie, the more they believe in it, so probably the calculation was made for this, but still, this is what, well, the wildest lie you they read about themselves or learned about themselves from such

materials from such authors, and well, one of the things is supposedly that i have a relative: in the storm there , ukrainian propaganda came up with something like that, and, moreover, publishing it not on their own resources, on certain resources , which are not even the media, these russian ones, probably the most the dirty thing that happened was an attempt to tarnish my reputation, to make, so to speak, a woman of easy virtue, but this is if it’s very rude, and how to throw it at my husband, that my husband once worked as a truck driver. that while you are a truck driver, look at what she does, but at this point i would like to point out this thing, i was actually very interested, when they wrote this, they found a special person who would sit on dirty sites and look for a blonde who looks vaguely like me, because photographs, so to speak, were attached, but they are not at all similar, i saw these photographs, katya, from the girl

who is your understudy, so to speak, she has nothing in common with you at all, but will someone figure it out? well, yes, well, that’s their job, that’s the job, yes, you’ve already said that security in belarus is something that catches your eye, so i’m sure that as a citizen of russia, you have ukrainian roots, you’ve been with this country is being pinched, yes, surely there are also some people in russia and ukraine who don’t like your path, your biography, do you feel... do you feel danger from them, from these people, well, i received threats , i received all sorts of them, including from belarusian mercenaries, and from ukrainian militants, and i won’t name very bloodthirsty names, because they are rumors, and i also received voice messages, and such, directly with details of what will happen and

how, what awaits me, there is a script and so on, but i don’t feel in danger, well, honestly, this is probably due to the great trust in the belarusian special services, belarusian security forces, today i have entrusted my life, belarus, i can say that in many respects this, i will say very simply yes , this is the merit of the father, because such a fist, a master, order, he, he inspires not just trust, but a feeling, a feeling that you you will be safe, everything is under control, and people are united, everyone does their job, well, i will just be a link in this big chain of the belarusian state, so thank you very much for this, for this opportunity, we subscribe to every word, katya, this true, we are all safe here, but for now we will do a short pause, our telegram channel, tell me, don’t be silent, subscribe, invite us to

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is nothing personal, only the truth, which is always more interesting than speculation, watch on the tv channel belarus 24, they connected their lives with the countryside and realized ideas that at first few of those around them believed in, the partnership that is located near minsk... they don’t like it, that is, it’s six acres of land, they wanted more space and more, as it were, fresh air, away from finsk, the heroes of the project about life in the belarusian outback, it grows here, about 150 tons of wheat and rapeseed are produced, yes, of course, it’s very difficult to believe, the numbers are simply threatening, they will offer the presenter to master a new unusual activity for the townspeople, three tasks will be ready for you, i’ve arrived, the test is to climb up here , i’m sitting high, i’m looking far away, well, great, 20 monsters, 20 bullets, i’m alone, you’re alone, well,

some kind of prize, today without, watch the show, i’m from the village, on our tv channel, don’t be silent on the air again. and our guest is journalist atn ekaterina tikhomirova. ekaterina, we have already said that in kalining and sevastopol, you had your own biography and a long one, did you maintain contact with friends there? in kaliningrad , of course, yes, both mom and dad live there, and my friends, i am very lucky in my life, i have childhood friends with whom we go hand in hand and beyond, and there was no distance in this matter. a hindrance, they come regularly, i can say that our house in minsk is constantly full of guests, and , by the way, probably thanks to friends and

relatives, we get to know belarus, because we ourselves don’t have enough time, literally, and then excuse me, let's arrange an excursion, in sevastopol, alas, there are only acquaintances left, but the closest friends, this is well, the graves, grandparents, they built this city, sevastopol, and they come there , there is the heart, there is the heart of our family, you have already mentioned a little about childhood, then what is your most vivid memory from childhood? i had a happy childhood, i am a happy child, a happy woman, well, let’s say, one of the brightest memorable moments was definitely the road, the road, the train, kaliningrad, sevastopol, there was such a wonderful station, my favorite, from where i never left with empty-handed, and this was a toy paradise, zhlobin station, where i left with