fields, rivers and lakes, breathe fresh air, admire the clear sky, listen to birdsong, rustle of leaves, smile at the sun, enjoy, notice this beauty around you. in harmony with nature belarus 24. evgeniy, if writing inspiration were a person, what would yours look like? so, with inspiration, i have a special relationship, i probably don’t have it, i rather have an idea. efficiency, composure, these

things, inspiration - this is probably for people in another warehouse, but if it existed, then for me it would definitely be looked like three blondes, about this height, about this height, my guest was a very unusual person, he worked as a loader, watchman, waiter, driver, security guard, this is not a complete list of his professional quests. my guest recently published the novel “the feather shark in the ussr”, and is now preparing the next edition. my guest is journalist, writer, evgeny kabba. evgeny, hello. good afternoon. i’m very glad to have the opportunity to get to know you better, well , let’s probably start with from the very beginning, from childhood,

i know that you were born in a very unusual family and your talent for writing was inherited from your grandparents, is that true? if talent exists in principle, then probably, yes, probably, you can say this, i really respect my ancestors, they are really worthy people, probably yes, evgeniy, your grandparents, who are they? well, thank god, i have a lot of grandparents, but probably the ones we’re talking about are... kabba, a famous abkhaz writer, biographer, he compiled, wrote biographies and literary criticism on the work of a huge the number of national figures of the national culture of abkhazia, writers, there, cultural experts, and so on, about , well, i'm afraid to make a mistake 46, probably, there is a book on his shelf, and i still have a very long way to reach this ideal, and olga vladimirovna mnukhina , sborovskaya, volokh, i don’t know how to say it correctly when i was a girl, now olga vladimirovna volokh is my maternal grandmother, she. one might say he is an amateur

composer and has compiled a huge number of scripts for collections for preschool age, probably the entire calendar year of matinees that she has in kindergarten, so the person is widely known in narrow circles of belarus, let's say, yeah, well, now i understand that there is nothing surprising that you , so to speak, have shown an interest in writing, i wonder how your father ended up in belarus, and probably like many, in fact , my parents met in moscow, moscow state university named after lomonosov and... they studied there, she studied psychology, he studied mechanics and mathematics, they met there, then they have been there for a while lived in abkhazia, among other things, and when all the tragic processes began related to the collapse of the soviet union with local wars, conflicts, let’s say, then, well, my mother moved here, yes, she moved here and well, we lived here for a long time together, but never from abkhazia we didn’t lose contact, and we continue to visit there constantly, well, that’s not all, among other things, your parents were teachers and...

very strict rules, it’s true that as a child you were forbidden to watch tv, but it simply wasn’t there , well i believe that my father i did quite the right thing, because a lot of what was on tv in the nineties was of questionable quality, and besides , my brother had problems with his eyesight, and i had nightmares at night, and he just him, including did you get rid of the tv for religious reasons? we had an extensive library and you didn’t suffer in any way due to the lack of a tv? well, maybe it was more difficult to discuss some topics with peers, but nevertheless it gave me an individual approach to life, and besides, you can always escape there to watch grandmas, well wait, i don’t know, they bypassed the ban, yes, well, not that they bypassed, but watching tv was not forbidden, there was a filter by content, let’s say, well , that’s probably right, but how old were you , when you showed interest in writing, and learned how to write, well, i got poisoned, this happened, well, for 7 years, probably.

i have been telling stories since childhood, it was very difficult to distinguish truth from fiction at times, i remember such a case as a child, when i had just started first grade and, as usual, i stupidly boasted in a childish way that i me at home... five satellite tv dishes, i came home and was like, where are my satellite tv dishes? that is, well, telling stories is kind of my story, well, annoying people with endless conversations, that’s quite, well, rude, that’s why i started writing, everything is clear, the lack of tv provoked your imagination, well , yes, probably so, but what about your test of the pen how did your parents and grandparents react? well... my first proofreader was probably such a beta reader, you could say it was always my mother, that is, she shot commas, if there are generally no problems with literacy, then sometimes there are problems with punctuation, and of course i gave some to read, in general it was perceived quite loyally, well, that is, you can say, yes in principle, but i was always quite demanding of myself

and what i didn’t like, i didn’t give , nevertheless, you didn’t become a writer right away, almost becoming a priest, uh, it’s loudly said, but there was such a possibility, why did you change your mind, right? in fact, it somehow happened that in our family, well, such areas for activity, yes, they are in mainly connected either with science, or with, well, one might say , with civil service in various manifestations, yes, well, with religion, including, probably, too, uh, well, that was kind of the choice, in general- then, uh, on reflection, after all, i realized that i wouldn’t be able to pull it off, probably, in order to be a clergyman, you need to have a lot of everyday experience, first of all, and to grow to a certain spiritual level, this is very serious the thing is, it’s like, well , besides, it’s like that’s all about me. such a subject as history, besides, in our family there was a huge number of educators, having entered the faculty of history, i think that i was right, i am still sure of this, on your page on social networks you write, i will read: by profession a teacher, journalist, guide, organizer, host of events,

loader , car washer, gravedigger, assistant band saw operator, driver, auxiliary worker , watchman, security guard, waiter, bartender's assistant, operator ev, camp cook, ellipses, well, now the question: was it a search for yourself or some difficult life circumstances? there is no shameful work, there is shameful idleness, yes, that is, i never thought that any way to make money was a legal way, and naturally, no matter how morally justified, yes, it could be something bad, it was funny enough when we were with your friend , now he is my godfather, lyokha, when he was a student at the faculty of history, we carried cast-iron bathtubs and talked about the reasons for the collapse, labor, yes, but at the same time we talked with him about the reasons for the collapse of the austro-hungarian empire, two such pumped up guys, that means in the trade center, these girls are looking at us, what’s going on, torn jeans, t-shirts like that, which means that the conversations there are approximately on the topic

there, this is in the genre of what you write about, yes, yes, this is approximately how it was, that is, in different periods of life, yes, well, when i i was already old enough, i didn’t want to take money from my parents , or... let’s talk frankly as a teacher, but having a family, i had to earn money in different ways , that is, especially when the initial stage is because well, needs, yes, you can probably sort of these needs limit but not infinitely so, well, this list is it could continue there, naturally, that i don’t do everything at the same time, but yes, it’s interesting how and how can you explain such a number of professions, how someone comes and works in one place all their life, well - what is it that you were looking for? i wasn’t looking, well, that’s how it turned out, that’s how i got it, let’s say, yes, yes, that is, it’s normal , it happened that way, i needed money at that moment, my comrades went to work part-time at a car wash, i went, got a job, worked, caught a cold, there, well , let’s say, i don’t know, there’s something else there, that is

or there, they worked in one place, they were invited, it was necessary to bury someone, well, that means it has to be done, well, someone needs to do it, by the way, how did you get into the grave, and quite by accident, it would have been me almost a teenager , there we, well, ask there, we worked in another place, in general, and there were no workers , it was winter, the ground was frozen and all that, as if they asked us guys, you can, well, we can, people are in trouble, so what should we do? evgeny, all this large number of professions later came in handy for creating literary images, of course, yes, of course, uh, i don’t in any way copy my books and characters from real people, it’s all written based on motives, but to have motives, uh-huh, it’s still such a sediment. some kind of life observations, yes, meetings, characters, images , yes, yes, that is, something catches some character, a person, the environment, himself, the very surroundings of what is happening, let’s say at this sawmill, where, well, yes , and from this it may be, but at the same time this pilogram may end up in

space, that is, well, it is not necessary that it will be directly in our realities, i will take care of exactly what is dear to me first, what is dear to me in a different way and is important to other people, my childhood was spent in sailing sports, which grew into adolescence, well, it’s already working out , that i have been here for half a century in my favorite sport, we are ready to share knowledge, my name is sergei morozov, i am the senior coach of the national sailing team, i am an athlete not only from the material

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it was written according to the mood or were they in demand at one time on vkontakte , well, a social network and horror stories, horror stories , almost there were a million views as far as i’m concerned i remember there were some scary stories there so that people would be afraid to read there, that is, well, these were different samples and not everything from it was published there in an electronic version, but something was done and it’s interesting - you write for children, these are horror stories , something brought me to this question, i have a draft, now i’m, now i’m writing a fairy tale about a babayka, uh, the fact is that i have two daughters, they asked me to tell them a fairy tale about a babayka, and i told them this fairy tale, and then i thought how it could be for adults, well yes, and this, as they say now, fell through, that is, it turned out, but from a children’s fairy tale, it turned out to be a very rollicking story, which is now, well, thank god, in decent demand, but how often have you heard refusals from publishing houses

, and how did you react to this, well, firstly, we live in belarus, so we’ll speak frankly, i don’t know how, as for fiction, russian-language literature, it ’s quite difficult to give up here in principle, that’s why after stumbling several times i i realized that, in principle, the format of work is now, now it all works a little differently, i decided that i would write several, well, in my opinion, worthy books and go to... some competitions, that is, in fact, i practically do not write my manuscripts i sent it, probably, only when i was 19 years old from the summer, as belarusians say, yes, that is, it was , well, unjustified, let’s say, absolutely an act, it was presumptuous, i understand it now, well, sort of, that’s why i didn’t i often heard refusals from publishers because i don’t often sent them something, you defined the genre in which you write as literary impressionism, what does it mean when we take impressionism, in fine... art , yes, it is something real that has some supernatural features, well, let's put it that way, yes?

but passed through the individuality of the author, unconditionally, of course, yes, of course, and as he says, we don’t know how to produce anything, we only make an impression, yes, everything we do, we make impressions with our actions, yes, yes, that’s really , then bish, it turns out i i’m trying to make a book so that it has, let’s say, three layers, the first layer is just some kind of light adventure, yes, which a person reads and has fun, and the plot, well , just a person reads, linear. absolutely having fun, the second layer is like allusions to homages, references, reminiscences, and to certain elements of culture or our way of life, which made this impression on me, and passed through. personal experience, and when a person looks, oh, that means skvoreshnya, surname, skvareshnya - this is from the secret of two oceans, there was a foreman there, yes, his catches it and he begins to pull it out, it has its own association, childhood, this is a book and so on, or some kind of movie, yes, no, not on purpose, literally like that, well, the third layer is really a certain kind of this, well

, the emotional philosophical component, this is a person who is already thinking a little, i don’t know whether it works or not, but i’m trying, literary impressionism, well, it originated somewhere at the end or not, i classified it that way, i want to believe in it, i want to believe that i am reviving him, in on the same social networks, you write that don’t set your sights on writing a masterpiece, and the program is at least different , what is the minimum program, as there is such a good phrase, widely known in narrow circles, and form your own audience, which would be on the same wavelength with me and which would from my creativity, and drew inspiration for myself. emotional, some kind of warm emotion, yes, in principle, well, in our time, it is quite important to be able to be distracted and loaded with information , loaded with difficult events, and if, thanks to my books, someone thinks that to be good is good, to be bad is bad, it means everything is being done in the right direction, but nevertheless a counter question arises: i understood the minimum program, but does the maximum program exist?

yes, i want to write at least one book that will be sold everywhere, i can roughly... imagine what it will be, but i won’t write it right away, but much later, because it requires a lot of life experience and, well, how else would i i need to grow up, of course, i ’m not capable of this now, but for some reason i’m sure that this will happen, let’s hope, i wish thank you for this, i hope that it will work out, although it will be in 2, but having published the novel the shark of the feast in the ussr, the minimum program has been completed or not, the very audience that is reading me now says that yes, i am not inclined to idealize this book, i see a lot of it... leftovers, it was just written at the right time, uh, in the right wave , probably, well, its content, but this parochialism, this is the message that i said, yes you need to do it like this , how to do it, and how not to do it, there is no need to do it, she probably played it, well, here’s the main character of the novel feast shark in the ussr, journalist, yeah, uh, well, it’s clear that you didn’t live in soviet times,

but where did you get the information for the novel, and firstly, i’m a historian and i couldn’t do without some kind of mini-research, and secondly, i i’m lucky to work now with wonderful people, both the older and middle generations, and of course, many, i listened to their stories and was inspired, but on the other hand, let’s be honest, i live in a small town and i spent my childhood there in the nineties, the beginning of the 2000s , and it’s not that far removed from the period i’m describing, and what turned out to be the most difficult to describe, well, with what details, i don’t know, images it was more difficult? of all, the hardest thing was not to laugh when you describe romantic scenes, i can’t, this is not my topic, but this certainly should be in every, well, books of the adventure genre, a romantic line, yes, some kind of relationship, it’s sitting and not laughing, this it was very difficult, but the fact is that in this genre, this also needs to be approached somehow, a way of presenting this situation, yes yes, well, it was quite difficult, and well, so that the wife

i didn’t laugh, i think at that time too, how did the readers receive your novel, what kind? reviews do you communicate on social networks? of course, i am very active, i really like talking about literature and therefore i really love communicating with my readers, they are the best people in the world , simply because they give me, well, faith in what i do, that this is normal, that’s it this book is based, as it were , on an alternative history in the soviet style, yes, uh, it’s probably 10, or 15 times better than any other book of mine, people liked it, and indeed, now for the last 2 years the theme of the soviet union is, in principle, very popular, in mass art in internet literature, in particular, on this wave, yes, that is, i was just asked, not asked either, by one of the authors with whom i i communicate online, he said, zhenya, write three chapters and you’ll see, he read my other books, and in particular, yeah, i was before the soviet union - this is not my surroundings, i didn’t live, i don’t know, now all these people who are there are nostalgic, they will get attached, that means, well, i’m okay, try it, well

i tried, and really this book is 10 or 15 times more than what i collected, but in addition to the fact that you are a writer, you are also a journalist, you work in the riga newspaper, and there, unlike your semi-fantastic novels, you you have to write about very real things, what topic do you cover? i am the editor of the city life department, and my diocese is mainly an industrial enterprise and public utilities in general, and also... like some bright personalities that we have, i always enjoy communicating, meeting, and, well, such a category as i tested on myself, that is , i haven’t been able to get into a combine yet, unfortunately, but i could get into a snowblower. i rode or rode through the forest with a forester all day, one day with a forester was very cool, not with a forester, with a forester, it’s a big difference, to ride in a field, through all these wilds, through forests, all these things,

this is my story , the soviet journalist from your novel, is he somewhat similar to you, how are you similar, what are your differences? ok, i have nothing to be ashamed of, a soviet journalist from in my novel, the guy is much more courageous and sharp, i am an intelligent, well-mannered person, i don’t like to hit people, for example, although i was involved in boxing, but this is not my style. in the book, the character often has to use his fists, including, well, yes, this is a man, and love scenes, something like james bond, you are leggings, strict monogas, this is in my book, he has one and only beloved woman , and i adhere to this , i believe that this is correct, and i will definitely push these ideas to the masses, i hear that now you are preparing another book for publication, what is it about, it has already been published. about 3 weeks ago i received the first author’s copy, the book is called lieutenant, it is written in the style of alternative history, the action takes place in a parallel world, which

at the same time is similar to us, and the events there echo the events of our civil war, the anglo-boer war, well there quite a large layer of the late 19th, early century, the genre can probably be called steam punk, well, this is a little out of character, but nevertheless something like this, right? in fact, four volumes of this book have already been published and they are gradually being prepared for publication, mainly with the advent of success in popularity , many strive to move to the capital closer to greater opportunities for the audience, media, but you, on the contrary, remain faithful to your speech, is this some kind of fundamental point? firstly, i am not popular and unsuccessful, that is, in terms of the level of even those internet authors who operate now, even within belarus, we have wonderful writers who have... much larger audiences than me, and secondly, yes, i like the province, but if we take it objectively, then all of belarus is a province, in the good sense of the word, that is, that parochialism, that

soulfulness that exists, of course, is expensive, and well, that i now live in rechitsa, it was not my choice initially , but it turned out that way, well, that is, i came back , returned, but i adore my city, i adore these people, of course, of course, i’m kind of proud that rech residents, because i am a provincial, and what do you like about the provinces? the trick is that the less e the place you live in, the more people you know, when you go to the doctor , you know what kind of doctor he is, when you go to a cafe, you know what kind of doctor he is, there is always something behind you, some reputation, yes, this certain thing, in a big city, people are much less inclined to notice each other in principle, they hide behind function, it is much easier to bring a person to a personal level in a small town, it costs a lot. that is, i do not rule out the possibility of moving to another city, but the love for my small homeland for small towns in i will always have, by the way, here you are on the networks, you also said that you love all your three

homelands, well, a person has one homeland, it seems, and you have three, somehow a linguistic abkhazian who was born in belarus, everything is clear, and evgeniy, what irritates you in the capital? i ’ve just arrived in minsk and nothing here irritates me yet, the capital may probably be formulated a little incorrectly, but in principle, probably in large cities, in megalopolises, right? well, yes, uh, in big cities people think that they can afford much more more, how he will behave on the street, how he will be dressed, how he will present himself, yes, i saw this man, moved on, yes, this moment is quite serious, plus i really like it. greenery, and well, i like forests, i like rivers, i want to see this, well, always in front of me, and when this complete grayness, or yes, i was recently in moscow in the winter, and

it so happened that i just got out of the metro i saw huge buildings, narrow streets, i almost caught clastrophobia, well, maybe this is mine as if really, again the word is provincial, how many times have i said, yes, but i really like the space, by the way, in minsk it is, yes, that is, it’s really huge, you don’t feel this pressure heavily. which exists in other cities, and i know, evgeniy, that you have a dream, uh, so to speak, to travel around belarus, cross it along its length, uh, your dream has come true - along yes, across, no, although, that means, so, i had experience, yes, i had experience, let’s say i went to brest and got from brest by diesel engines, well, by electric trains, driven by trains, back to rechitsa, that is, in principle, i crossed along, in brest, in vitebsk, too, but i haven’t gotten to borslav yet, let’s say, here i am... it ’s a bewitched place for me, having gotten there somehow, i have it never works out, that is, well, these are opposite points, practically this is also the same for everything, well, in belarus, in fact, there are a lot of amazing cool places and sometimes you shouldn’t look for miracles

there, it’s very far away, and so, let’s say, at the age of 30 i discovered that next to in the river there is a natural monument and a centuries-old state rechensky district, forty-meter huge trees, and well, i lived there all my life and didn’t see this, that is, from our belarus , exactly the same, what interesting places have you already managed to visit, from the last one, in the brest region, the puslovsky palace, i was shocked just, just this view, when you get off the bus from the forest, you get out and see this huge gothic mass, it’s fantastic, it’s from the last one. that is, well, mozur i love the city, it’s a very beautiful, mountainous city, maybe my akhazian soul rejoices, i don’t know, but in this is the moment when, too, linkovich, you drive up to mozyr and see these hills, it’s fantastic, of course, and mozyr is beautiful, and if you take minsk, then the place where i’m taking minsk residents is the crypt under the cathedral of all saints, it turns out it’s located in capsules of earth from different places, key places on earth, that is , from fokusima, for example in chernobyl and so on, an amazing place under the cathedral of all saints, it is foyansyva itself, it’s so

amazing inside. i take menchan there, i can’t help but ask about one more point of yours biographies, i quote: i live with three beautiful blondes, reveal the intrigue, who are these blondes? well, these are the most beautiful girls in the world, of course, this is my wife and two daughters, yes, well, for me this is really a great fantasy, a great joy, i just couldn’t imagine, let’s say i’m 17 years old, that i have everything like this personal life will work out, and well, if you take the flight to the moon, and there on the ship elon musk and my family are about the same level of things for me, that’s why it’s so approximately, well, that is, it’s clear that spending time in bed with three blondes, i imagined it a little differently, but nevertheless, as if this really is a great joy for me and great, probably my most important success in life, so you are now in space flight, of course, with the stars, i envy you, our program is called the meaning of life, for you, what is the meaning of life now?

so, well, we probably need to divide the meaning: yes, life in the global sense of the word and the goal for each person, but separately, if we take the goal, then it is quite pretentious for me, and i would like to prove with my life that you can succeed and remain a good person, we know examples of great figures , musical, literary and film art , yes, who, having achieved something in their profession in their creativity, paid a huge amount for it... i don’t want to pay it, i want, so that we can say that he was a good guy, a great writer, that’s the goal , but as for the meaning of life, i’m a christian , everything is determined for me, for me in life there is a series of exams that we must pass with class, study well and approach next life in such a spiritual state so that we can realize ourselves there too, thank you, this was the meaning of evgeniy kabba’s life.

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